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3rd Dec '17 8:53:05 PM TTFan
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* Isn't the point the the T800 is sent back to kill Sarah Connor so that she never gives birth to John? The T800 may well kill the kids anyway, but Sarah is only a target because of her relation to John.

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* *** Isn't the point that the the T800 T-800 is sent back to kill Sarah Connor so that she never gives birth to John? The T800 T-800 may well kill the kids anyway, but Sarah is only a target because of her relation to John.
3rd Dec '17 8:49:55 PM TTFan
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*** Who says they have to be old enough to attend school? [[GenderBenderName Who says the child is often a boy?]] Even Skynet is smart enough to not discriminate one human with another.
* The Terminator could ask the child what their name is as well. If it isn't 'John Connor', they may live. Besides, the Terminator probably has John's birthdate.

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*** Who says they have to be old enough to attend school? [[GenderBenderName [[GenderBlenderName Who says the child is often a boy?]] Even Skynet is smart enough to not discriminate one human with another.
* **** The Terminator could ask the child what their name is as well. If it isn't 'John Connor', they may live. Besides, the Terminator probably has John's birthdate.
25th Aug '17 3:30:39 PM badbassist
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* Isn't the point the the T800 is sent back to kill Sarah Connor so that she never gives birth to John? The T800 may well kill the kids anyway, but Sarah is only a target because of her relation to John.
19th Aug '17 12:32:55 PM BKelly95
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* How much more dangerous is a Terminator than a human? In the first film, one successfully robs a ''gun store''. You know, a place where the proprietor and the customers are likely ''armed''. (Granted, it appears that the Terminator is the only customer at this one and the owner makes a [[TooDumbToLive literally lethal mistake]], but still...)
16th May '17 1:48:04 PM Tightwire
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* What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Skynet keeps sending terminators back in time to try and keep from losing the war and it keeps failing. Skynet believes humans are irrational and insane but has become very much like them, having clearly lost all grip on logic.



** Not even considering the diverging timelines in T3, T4 and the TV show and just going by any of the three timelines, [[TimeyWimeyBall the time travel stuff gets very confusing]]. When did Sarah Connor die? What is the date of Judgment Day? How old was John Connor at the time? It might look like the writers didn't care, but remember, John Connor has the resources and brains for TrickedOutTime. In no continuity do we ever see a future John Connor at the point in the war when he controls terminators or time machines, and he's the only character who ever does (except for Skynet, and we don't see it at that stage of the war either). For all we know, by the time he first sent someone back in time he was playing XanatosSpeedChess with himself.

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** Not even considering the diverging timelines in T3, T4 and the TV show and just going by any of the three timelines, [[TimeyWimeyBall the time travel stuff gets very confusing]]. When did Sarah Connor die? What is the date of Judgment Judgement Day? How old was John Connor at the time? It might look like the writers didn't care, but remember, John Connor has the resources and brains for TrickedOutTime. In no continuity do we ever see a future John Connor at the point in the war when he controls terminators or time machines, and he's the only character who ever does (except for Skynet, and we don't see it at that stage of the war either). For all we know, by the time he first sent someone back in time he was playing XanatosSpeedChess with himself.
26th Sep '16 5:13:20 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Not even considering the diverging timelines in T3, T4 and the TV show and just going by any of the three timelines, [[TimeyWimeyBall the time travel stuff gets very confusing]]. When did Sarah Connor die? What is the date of Judgment Day? How old was John Connor at the time? It might look like the writers [[TheyJustDidntCare Just Didn't Care]], but remember, John Connor has the resources and brains for TrickedOutTime. In no continuity do we ever see a future John Connor at the point in the war when he controls terminators or time machines, and he's the only character who ever does (except for Skynet, and we don't see it at that stage of the war either). For all we know, by the time he first sent someone back in time he was playing XanatosSpeedChess with himself.

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** Not even considering the diverging timelines in T3, T4 and the TV show and just going by any of the three timelines, [[TimeyWimeyBall the time travel stuff gets very confusing]]. When did Sarah Connor die? What is the date of Judgment Day? How old was John Connor at the time? It might look like the writers [[TheyJustDidntCare Just Didn't Care]], didn't care, but remember, John Connor has the resources and brains for TrickedOutTime. In no continuity do we ever see a future John Connor at the point in the war when he controls terminators or time machines, and he's the only character who ever does (except for Skynet, and we don't see it at that stage of the war either). For all we know, by the time he first sent someone back in time he was playing XanatosSpeedChess with himself.
11th Apr '15 2:12:32 PM Troper9
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*The Terminator could ask the child what their name is as well. If it isn't 'John Connor', they may live. Besides, the Terminator probably has John's birthdate.
30th Aug '14 4:51:25 PM STFilmmaker
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*** Who says they have to be old enough to attend school? [[GenderBenderName Who says the child is often a boy?]] Even Skynet is smart enough to not discriminate one human with another.
22nd Jul '14 10:44:14 PM BluePant.
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* In TheBookOfTheMovie, the Terminator grabbing the phone book and his assassination of the first Sarah Connor are both told from the perspective of minor characters, the man in the booth and the child playing in the yard, respectively. [[spoiler: The man sees a dent in the phone book under the listings for the Sarahs Connor, and briefly considers calling each to warn them that some psycho is looking for them. He doesn't, and commits suicide shortly after hearing what happened. The child wanders into the dead Mrs. Connor's home, and realizes that she is like his toy truck the Terminator ran over: broken forever.]]
** Additionally, in the same book, the Terminator cuts open the left thigh of each Sarah Connor, looking for a surgical pin found in her medical records. [[spoiler: A remnant of this subplot remains in the movie, as shrapnel from the Terminator's body imbeds itself in her left thigh.]] The FridgeHorror comes in when realizing [[spoiler: that if the Terminator had succeeded in killing Sarah, it wouldn't have realized it, as the pin wasn't there yet. It would have kept killing everyone named Sarah Connor.]]



** All 3 terminators are part of the last ditch effort Skynet tried. It even makes more sense, and it's what Dark Horse went with for their comics. Skynet didn't send one terminator, and waited for it to fail and then sent another; Skynet sent a number of Terminators all at the same time, and John Connor knows of all the times they almost killed him or his mother and knows he has to send Kyle Reese to father him. The first terminator sent will always be the one form the latest movie, as Skynet would want to insure Connor's murder with the best option it has; and sends prototypes or older models further back in time, where it is more complicated and dangerous for it to guarantee success; thus, the T-model sent to kill Sarah Connor before she conceived Jhon, is one of the older T-800 models. It wouldn't make sense for Skynet to send a better equipped T-unit for a time frame when they didn't have the certainty of finding Sarah Connor; unlike the first and second time (T3 and T2) where it had abundant evidence: Sarah was reclused in a sanitarium, and Kate Brewster's father was helming the Skynet project. John Connor and Kate Brewster however, are forced to use Arnie models, since that's what they remember arriving; but know for sure that will succeed. It makes it more tragic to know that Connor also knows he has to let the T850 kill him to catch it, and is a show of friendship that he will allow it to fulfill its purpose and then give it a new one posthumously.

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** All 3 terminators are part of the last ditch effort Skynet tried. It even makes more sense, and it's what Dark Horse went with for their comics. Skynet didn't send one terminator, and waited for it to fail and then sent another; Skynet sent a number of Terminators all at the same time, and John Connor knows of all the times they almost killed him or his mother and knows he has to send Kyle Reese to father him. The first terminator sent will always be the one form the latest movie, as Skynet would want to insure Connor's murder with the best option it has; and sends prototypes or older models further back in time, where it is more complicated and dangerous for it to guarantee success; thus, the T-model sent to kill Sarah Connor before she conceived Jhon, is one of the older T-800 models. It wouldn't make sense for Skynet to send a better equipped T-unit for a time frame when they didn't have the certainty of finding Sarah Connor; unlike the first and second time (T3 and T2) where it had abundant evidence: Sarah was reclused in a sanitarium, and Kate Brewster's father was helming the Skynet project. John Connor and Kate Brewster however, are forced to use Arnie models, since that's what they remember arriving; but know for sure that will succeed. It makes it more tragic to know that Connor also knows he has to let the T850 kill him to catch it, and is a show of friendship that he will allow it to fulfill its purpose and then give it a new one posthumously.posthumously.
* In TheBookOfTheMovie, the Terminator grabbing the phone book and his assassination of the first Sarah Connor are both told from the perspective of minor characters, the man in the booth and the child playing in the yard, respectively. [[spoiler: The man sees a dent in the phone book under the listings for the Sarahs Connor, and briefly considers calling each to warn them that some psycho is looking for them. He doesn't, and commits suicide shortly after hearing what happened. The child wanders into the dead Mrs. Connor's home, and realizes that she is like his toy truck the Terminator ran over: broken forever.]]
** Additionally, in the same book, the Terminator cuts open the left thigh of each Sarah Connor, looking for a surgical pin found in her medical records. [[spoiler: A remnant of this subplot remains in the movie, as shrapnel from the Terminator's body imbeds itself in her left thigh.]] The FridgeHorror comes in when realizing [[spoiler: that if the Terminator had succeeded in killing Sarah, it wouldn't have realized it, as the pin wasn't there yet. It would have kept killing everyone named Sarah Connor.]]
1st Jun '14 7:10:43 AM cliffc999
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** Not that likely. The events of the movie take place in May, and most schools are still in session. There's no mention of a school shooting during the movie. (In addition, we don't know if either of the children is a boy.)

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** Not that likely. The events of the movie take place in May, and most schools are still in session. There's no mention of a school shooting during the movie. (In addition, we don't know if either of the children is a boy.)) Also, John Connor has a known birthdate; the Terminator would ignore the children because neither of them could be him.
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