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20th Aug '15 1:04:32 PM jahman
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* Since Simon happens to be omnipotent, even if he doesn't use his power to bring back those he lost, his power suggest that he could also see them again in other ways, plus there a saying "Death is only the beginning" meaning that Nia and the others may be alive in others ways and eventually Simon will see them all again.
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* Since Simon happens to be omnipotent, even if he doesn't use his power to bring back those he lost, his power suggest that he could also see them again in other ways, plus there there's a saying "Death is only the beginning" meaning that Nia and the others may be alive in others ways and eventually Simon will see them all again.
21st Jul '15 7:18:37 PM Discar
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To clarify: There's nothing wrong with explaining things. We encourage it. But be concise. Sometimes things are already explained fine.
21st Jul '15 7:17:57 PM Discar
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Example Indentation and natter.
* "Don't believe in yourself; believe in me who believes in you". On its face, it sounds like, "Don't worry, kid, when your confidence is shot, I'll keep cheering you on", and it's easy enough to just take it as such... but pare down that sentence and you get "Believe in me." Simon was looked down on and/or ignored in his village, and no one "believed in" him aside from Kamina... but consider that Kamina was in much the same kind of position, being called "the liar's son", having his gang composed of insincere hangers-on who betrayed him at the first opportunity, and being subjected to constant beatings, jailings and general attempts to shut him up. The only person who truly stood by him was Simon. Additionally, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming we see in]] [[TearJerker Episode 11]] that [[spoiler: Kamina was afraid and panicking when the tunnel collapsed, and Simon's quiet determination was directly responsible for Kamina's refusal to give up]]. In short, when the phrase is examined closely, Kamina was actually asking Simon, the person he admired more than anyone else, to have faith in ''him'' -- "Please have faith in me, because you're the person I respect and trust the most, and I act confident and self-assured because I know you're watching me". Furthermore, when [[spoiler:Kamina was dying]], he told Simon, "Don't believe in me, who believes in you... don't believe in you, who believes in me... believe in you, who believes in yourself" because he finally recognized that that was what he should have been telling Simon all along.
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* "Don't believe in yourself; believe in me who believes in you". you": ** On its face, it sounds like, "Don't worry, kid, when your confidence is shot, I'll keep cheering you on", and it's easy enough to just take it as such... but pare down that sentence and you get "Believe in me." Simon was looked down on and/or ignored in his village, and no one "believed in" him aside from Kamina... but consider that Kamina was in much the same kind of position, being called "the liar's son", having his gang composed of insincere hangers-on who betrayed him at the first opportunity, and being subjected to constant beatings, jailings and general attempts to shut him up. The only person who truly stood by him was Simon. Additionally, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming we see in]] [[TearJerker Episode 11]] that [[spoiler: Kamina was afraid and panicking when the tunnel collapsed, and Simon's quiet determination was directly responsible for Kamina's refusal to give up]]. In short, when the phrase is examined closely, Kamina was actually asking Simon, the person he admired more than anyone else, to have faith in ''him'' -- "Please have faith in me, because you're the person I respect and trust the most, and I act confident and self-assured because I know you're watching me". Furthermore, when [[spoiler:Kamina was dying]], he told Simon, "Don't believe in me, who believes in you... don't believe in you, who believes in me... believe in you, who believes in yourself" because he finally recognized that that was what he should have been telling Simon all along.

** Especially with Nia, for There is a possibility that she may not be truly dead, rather she still lives and exist in some unknown way after disappearing. 1. The first and most powerful example that she was able to hold on to existence for a week after the defeat of the Anti-Spiral through sheer willpower and her love for Simon. She may be Anti-Spiral, but she had the heart and soul of a amazing Spiral Warrior equal to that of the likes of Simon. When she disappeared on her wedding day, her soul or whatever's left of her may have gone to an unknown location.2. Kamina showed up in the Extradimensional Labyrinth to save Simon and the others, despite being dead for more than seven years. Most likely he used his "fighting spirit" and Spiral power to appear and help rescue them. Since Nia would come to display amazing "fighting spirit" of her own, she could exist in the same way. 3.While she and her dress disappeared, the ring Simon gave her did not. While this could be due to the ring made of the Spiral Gem Simon once found, this could also be her way of telling Simon that it is possible to find her again, whenever she is. This may also what he may have been doing during the 20-year time skip, besides making the world beautiful with flowers.
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** Especially with Nia, for There is a possibility that she may not be truly dead, rather she still lives and exist in some unknown way after disappearing. 1. The first and most powerful example that she was able to hold on to existence for a week after the defeat of the Anti-Spiral through sheer willpower and her love for Simon. She may be Anti-Spiral, but she had the heart and soul of a amazing Spiral Warrior equal to that of the likes of Simon. When she disappeared on her wedding day, her soul or whatever's left of her may have gone to an unknown location.2. Kamina showed up in the Extradimensional Labyrinth to save Simon and the others, despite being dead for more than seven years. Most likely he used his "fighting spirit" and Spiral power to appear and help rescue them. Since Nia would come to display amazing "fighting spirit" of her own, she could exist in the same way. 3.While she and her dress disappeared, the ring Simon gave her did not. While this could be due to the ring made of the Spiral Gem Simon once found, this could also be her way of telling Simon that it is possible to find her again, whenever she is. This may also what he may have been doing during the 20-year time skip, besides making the world beautiful with flowers.
21st Jul '15 5:13:42 PM jahman
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**Especially with Nia, for There is a possibility that she may not be truly dead, rather she still lives and exist in some unknown way after disappearing. 1. The first and most powerful example that she was able to hold on to existence for a week after the defeat of the Anti-Spiral through sheer willpower and her love for Simon. She may be Anti-Spiral, but she had the heart and soul of a amazing Spiral Warrior equal to that of the likes of Simon. When she disappeared on her wedding day, her soul or whatever's left of her may have gone to an unknown location.2. Kamina showed up in the Extradimensional Labyrinth to save Simon and the others, despite being dead for more than seven years. Most likely he used his "fighting spirit" and Spiral power to appear and help rescue them. Since Nia would come to display amazing "fighting spirit" of her own, she could exist in the same way. 3.While she and her dress disappeared, the ring Simon gave her did not. While this could be due to the ring made of the Spiral Gem Simon once found, this could also be her way of telling Simon that it is possible to find her again, whenever she is. This may also what he may have been doing during the 20-year time skip, besides making the world beautiful with flowers.
16th Jul '15 12:04:39 PM jahman
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*Since Simon happens to be omnipotent, even if he doesn't use his power to bring back those he lost, his power suggest that he could also see them again in other ways, plus there a saying "Death is only the beginning" meaning that Nia and the others may be alive in others ways and eventually Simon will see them all again.
16th Jul '15 11:53:01 AM jahman
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon if he's gone? He knew history (their time back in their underground village) could repeat itself with the new team Dai-Gurren and Simon would be alone again like back in their village without Kamina to snap him out of his funk, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again, even if he's gone. It could be summed up as ** "Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere and maybe it will be something that will turn this whole world around. Never forget, just believe in yourself, always."
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon if he's gone? He knew history (their time back in their underground village) could repeat itself with the new team Dai-Gurren and Simon would be alone again like back in their village without Kamina to snap him out of his funk, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again, even if he's gone. It could be summed up as ** as: "Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere and maybe it will be something that will turn this whole world around. Never forget, just believe in yourself, always."
16th Jul '15 11:17:27 AM jahman
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"Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere and maybe it will be something that will turn this whole world around. Never forget, just believe in yourself, always."
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"Look **"Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere and maybe it will be something that will turn this whole world around. Never forget, just believe in yourself, always."
15th Jul '15 6:30:24 PM jahman
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"Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere. Never forget, believe in yourself, always."
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"Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere. anywhere and maybe it will be something that will turn this whole world around. Never forget, just believe in yourself, always."
15th Jul '15 6:21:31 PM jahman
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon if he's gone? He knew history (their time back in their underground village) could repeat itself with the new team Dai-Gurren and Simon would be alone again like back in their village without Kamina to snap him out of his funk, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again, even if he's gone. It could be summed up as "Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon if he's gone? He knew history (their time back in their underground village) could repeat itself with the new team Dai-Gurren and Simon would be alone again like back in their village without Kamina to snap him out of his funk, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again, even if he's gone. It could be summed up as as "Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. Sorry, I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in meme, I only said that cause I wanted you to know that your not alone, you got me, cause your all I've got too. I believe in you, cause if I don't who will? Having you helps me keep going cause I know your going to be much stronger than I ever could be, but your needed faith from someone who cares, like I do. But now, I am about to die, and once I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to do that for you anymore and if that happens what's going to happen to you and our new team? There may not be another who believes in you like I do, but that okay too. Because Simon, there is someone who I should have told you to believe whose more important than me, and......it's you, buddy. No matter what happens, always believe in yourself, cause even if no one else will believe in you, hell not even Yoko maybe, your own faith will take you anywhere. Never forget, believe in yourself, always."
15th Jul '15 6:04:51 PM jahman
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon? He knew could repeat itself with the new team and Simon would be alone again, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again.
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** Made more apparent in the next few episodes, before he died, Kamina knew that if he died while Simon only believed in Kamina, whose going to believe in Simon? Simon if he's gone? He knew history (their time back in their underground village) could repeat itself with the new team Dai-Gurren and Simon would be alone again, again like back in their village without Kamina to snap him out of his funk, cause chances are there might not be a lot of people who have the same confidence, patience and belief in Simon he does, even Yoko may not be all that patient with Simon like Kamina is. He came back to life one more time so that Simon would hear what he needed to heard to be sure that Simon would not be alone again. again, even if he's gone. It could be summed up as "Look Simon, this is it for me, but it isn't for you. I was wrong to tell you that you should only believe in me
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