History Fridge / SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet

2nd Apr '17 4:22:34 AM HighfalutinQuelea
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* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic family bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man's NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.



** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was right.

* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic family bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man's NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.

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** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was right.

* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic family bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man's NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.
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2nd Apr '17 4:21:42 AM HighfalutinQuelea
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* [[AC:FridgeHorror]] Also true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy Christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Johanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fogg's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}

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true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy Christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Johanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fogg's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}
29th Mar '17 2:50:48 PM PrincessGwen
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* I was wondering how Mrs. Lovette knew all about Lucy's fate when the Fridge Horror kicked in. Mrs. Lovette knew ''because she was there''! Lucy may have been a bit naive, but not stupid enough to go to a man's house by herself. She thought it would be a good idea to bring another woman like Mrs. Lovette along as a witness, only to find she wasn't so trustworthy. Maybe Mrs. Lovette always secretly hated Lucy for having such a handsome husband. Maybe she even gave her the poison later.
** I always interpreted it as thus: Lucy came home after being raped, in a distraught state, and Mrs. Lovette figured out what happened. Then Lucy either asked about the pharmacist on the corner if she forgot in a moment of confusion, or she just went there and took the arsenic back to her home and Mrs. Lovett recognised the arsenic.

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* I was wondering how Mrs. Lovette Lovett knew all about Lucy's fate when the Fridge Horror kicked in. Mrs. Lovette Lovett knew ''because she was there''! Lucy may have been a bit naive, but not stupid enough to go to a man's house by herself. She thought it would be a good idea to bring another woman like Mrs. Lovette Lovett along as a witness, only to find she wasn't so trustworthy. Maybe Mrs. Lovette Lovett always secretly hated Lucy for having such a handsome husband. Maybe she even gave her the poison later.
** I always interpreted it as thus: Lucy came home after being raped, in a distraught state, and Mrs. Lovette Lovett figured out what happened. Then Lucy either asked about the pharmacist on the corner if she forgot in a moment of confusion, or she just went there and took the arsenic back to her home and Mrs. Lovett recognised the arsenic.



* [[AC:FridgeHorror]] Also true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Joanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fog's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}
** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was Right.

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* [[AC:FridgeHorror]] Also true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy christ, Christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Joanna Johanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fog's Fogg's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}
** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was Right.
right.
6th Feb '17 6:04:29 AM Overfiend
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* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man'S NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.

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* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic family bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man'S man's NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.
6th Feb '17 6:03:41 AM Overfiend
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** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was Right.

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** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was Right.Right.

* "By The Sea" showcases Mrs. Lovett's ideal life with herself, Toby and Todd in what she imagines as idyllic bliss. Notice that Todd isn't depicted as smiling at any point in the images. For fuck's sake, the man'S NOT EVEN HAPPY IN HER DAMN FANTASIES.
2nd Aug '16 9:01:05 AM WanderingWonder
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** It makes the line "He served a dark and a hungry God" much more meaningful, but also implies Sweeney really is the agent of some God-like figure. And given the themes of insanity in the show, who's to say it's not an EldritchAbomination?
26th Jun '16 10:57:17 AM wolverinedoctorwho
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** At one point during "God That's Good", Ms. Lovett points out The Beggar Woman, saying that she "seems a little beery" and "she got her comeuppance". Now remember who The Beggar Woman really is.
2nd Apr '16 12:46:22 PM Cupcakes
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* [[AC:FridgeHorror]] Also true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Joanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fog's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}

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* [[AC:FridgeHorror]] Also true for the musical but underlined in the movie, [[spoiler:holy christ, practically everyone is dead!]] Seriously, [[spoiler: Signor Pirelli, Beadle Bamford, Judge Turpin, Mrs. Barker (Todd's now insane wife - though, not quite as insane as the original musical), Mrs. Lovett, Todd himself, not to mention a whole mess of townsfolk]]. This is, of course, not particularly a feel-good movie, but once you reach the fridge: [[spoiler:the only characters left are Toby (who may or may not go insane and/or be locked forever with people and pies in various states of decay around him), Joanna (who - and Tim Burton particularly underlines this, but YMMV - hasn't known a life outside a heavily guarded room), and Anthony (who, as a sailor may well have seen some gnarly things in the first place, but was then threatened by Turpin and Co., passed himself off to get into Fog's Asylum and then left its owner to die by being torn to bits, and is now left with the utterly broken woman he loves).]] Basically, if you lived in this movie, you'd either be dead or wish you were. -- @/{{capitoltvjunkie}}@/{{capitoltvjunkie}}
** Which means that even with the madness, violence, and slaughter... Todd was Right.
10th Oct '15 9:09:09 PM MetaBuu
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** She was ''definitely'' there. "Poor Thing" contains details that no one not at Turpin's party could possibly have known.
12th Jun '15 8:02:11 PM FelipeXicao
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** When Sweeney sings A Barber And His Wife at the end he stops just before the part that says he was naive. That shows how overcrushed with guilty he was.
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