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6th Mar '17 9:22:39 AM HyoukaForEternity
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* In Corrin's trailer when they switch out male Corrin for female Corrin Sakura is shocked and Elise is happy, stating that she's "even better". In official ''Fates'' artworks male Corrin is most often aligned with Hoshido while female Corrin picks Nohr instead.

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* In Corrin's trailer trailer, when they switch out male Corrin for female Corrin Corrin, Sakura is shocked and Elise is happy, stating that she's "even better". In official ''Fates'' artworks male Corrin is most often aligned with Hoshido while female Corrin picks Nohr instead.instead.
* In spite of being considered one of the best characters in the game, Cloud in tournament singles matches tends to have fluctuated results. While his speed and power ensures that he can get the job done, he can still die very early due to his poor recovery without his Limit Break. In contrast, Cloud fares much better in doubles where he has a partner to help him in both recovering to the stage and reliably landing his Limit Breaks, resulting in him being one of the best doubles partners in the game. This isn't a coincidence; Cloud's an RPG character, meaning he's used to fighting alongside other people who can support him and cover up whatever weaknesses he may have. He's more or less used to fighting in a team.
** This can also serve as another reference to ''Dissidia'', specifically the second game ''Dissidia 012'' which introduced an "Assist" system where a character can call upon an ally for help. In that game, Cloud benefits greatly from having an Assist to set up into his HP attacks and his own attacks when called upon as an Assist can do the same for other characters. By himself he's an effective combatant but still has issues; when working together with the right partner on the other hand, he's much more of a threat.
1st Mar '17 7:14:35 PM nombretomado
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* In Pit's Codec, Snake asks if he's a mutant. Not only is this [[Franchise/XMen an X-Men reference]], but it's a bit of actor/director allusion, as DavidHayter, the voice of Snake, wrote scripts for the [[Film/XMen1 first]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited two]] ''Film/XMen'' movies (Angel did not appear in them, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen but was planned]]).

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* In Pit's Codec, Snake asks if he's a mutant. Not only is this [[Franchise/XMen an X-Men reference]], but it's a bit of actor/director allusion, as DavidHayter, Creator/DavidHayter, the voice of Snake, wrote scripts for the [[Film/XMen1 first]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited two]] ''Film/XMen'' movies (Angel did not appear in them, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen but was planned]]).
4th Feb '17 7:46:41 PM DUHTROOPZ
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* One could probably liken Lucario's [[KamehameHadoken Aura Storm]] to a [[Anime/DragonBall Kamehameha.]] Remind me, [[Creator/SeanSchemmel who's voiced both Lucario and Goku?]]
26th Jan '17 3:50:18 PM Kaabisteru
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* A rather sweet twist to their Lord Roy's and Roy Koopa's popular rivalry which was played for comedy during each of their reveal by many fans long before, and after such: it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" since Lord Roy had given his own mind to the Kopaling and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why Lord Roy's iconic taunt from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]

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* A rather sweet twist to their Lord Roy's and Roy Koopa's popular rivalry which was played for comedy during each of their reveal by many fans long before, and after such: it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" since Lord Roy had given his own mind to the Kopaling Koopaling and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why Lord Roy's iconic taunt from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]
26th Jan '17 3:49:27 PM Kaabisteru
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* A rather sweet case considering their initially popular rivalry that was played for comedy by both Roy's reveal and the fans long before and after such - it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why, Lord Roy's iconic leaning pose from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]

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* A rather sweet case considering twist to their initially Lord Roy's and Roy Koopa's popular rivalry that which was played for comedy by both Roy's during each of their reveal and the by many fans long before before, and after such - such: it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" since Lord Roy had given his own mind to the Kopaling and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why, Why Lord Roy's iconic leaning pose taunt from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]
9th Jan '17 1:13:26 PM Sweekun
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* In Corrin's trailer when they switch out male Corrin for female Corrin Sakura is shocked and Elise is happy, stating that she's "even better". In official ''Fates'' artworks male Corrin is most often aligned with Hoshido while female Corrin picks Nohr instead.
31st Dec '16 10:26:58 PM HyoukaForEternity
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* Many competitive and casual players consider Corrin as the best of the Fire Emblem characters, mostly due to his Dragon Fang ability giving him disjointed hitboxes that the other characters could only dream of. That already gives Corrin a tactical edge against his fellow swordsmen (and Robin), but the real reason he's better than the rest? It's because of Corrin's weapon, the Omega Yato blade [[spoiler:or, as ''Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation'' revealed, the Fire Emblem, which is canonically THE most powerful weapon in the franchise]], so in addition to his dragon powers, he's already a better-equipped unit than the rest of them.

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* Many competitive and casual players consider considered Corrin as to be the best of the Fire Emblem characters, characters at the time of his initial release, mostly due to his Dragon Fang ability giving him disjointed hitboxes that the other characters could only dream of. That already gives Corrin a tactical edge against his fellow swordsmen (and Robin), but the real reason he's better than the rest? It's because of Corrin's weapon, the Omega Yato blade [[spoiler:or, as ''Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation'' revealed, the Fire Emblem, which is canonically THE most powerful weapon in the franchise]], so in addition to his dragon powers, he's already a better-equipped unit than the rest of them.them.
** Though as of late, Corrin's title of strongest Fire Emblem character is being challenged by Marth, as advances in the latter's metagame have slowly given him a more notable presence than Corrin. Coincidentally, from a Fire Emblem perspective, Marth is one of two characters who could possibly compete with Corrin and his Omega Yato (the other being Lucina) on even grounds, the reason being Marth's Falchion is imbued with the power to slay dragons, and Corrin is part dragon himself.
12th Dec '16 3:43:59 PM Luigifan
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* Why does Link have a terrible jump and recovery across a huge chunk of the series? He has ''tons'' of equipment. A sword, boomerang, a bomb bag, a quiver with arrows, a bow... yeah, tell me they're not going to weigh you down. As for Young and Toon Link, they're no explanation for them.

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* Why does Link have a terrible jump and recovery across a huge chunk of the series? He has ''tons'' of equipment. A sword, boomerang, a bomb bag, a quiver with arrows, a bow... yeah, tell me they're not going to weigh you down. As for Young and Toon Link, they're there's no explanation for them.



* Why does Jigglypuff shoot to the sky if you break its shield? Well, what happens when you pop a balloon? Or rather, the ''balloon'' Pokemon?

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* Why does Jigglypuff shoot to the sky if you break its shield? Well, what happens when you pop a balloon? Or rather, the ''balloon'' Pokemon?Pokémon?



* Why does Lucario become stronger as it takes damage? Lucario greatly invokes other shonen series like Anime/DragonBallZ into its design. In those series characters often fight at their best and unleash their most powerful attacks when close to defeat. Having the same voice actor as Goku in its debut helps draw further comparisons.

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* Why does Lucario become stronger as it takes damage? Lucario greatly invokes other shonen series like Anime/DragonBallZ into its design. In those series series, characters often fight at their best and unleash their most powerful attacks when close to defeat. Having the same voice actor as Goku in its debut helps draw further comparisons.



* Ganondorf's usual playstyle involves being patient and waiting to punish foes' mistakes with his [[MightyGlacier slow, but very powerful, attacks]]. The ''Zelda'' series shows that he isn't a true MightyGlacier in canon but rather a LightningBruiser who often ''chooses'' to move slowly; however, his playstyle in ''Smash'' is befitting of his nature as a GeniusBruiser, since it requires a lot of patience, attention and good reflexes rather than simply rushing in and clobbering foes, as [[DumbMuscle Bowser]] is meant to do in ''[=SSB4=]''.

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* Ganondorf's usual playstyle involves being patient and waiting to punish foes' mistakes with his [[MightyGlacier slow, but very powerful, attacks]]. The ''Zelda'' series shows that he isn't a true MightyGlacier in canon but rather a LightningBruiser who often ''chooses'' to move slowly; however, his playstyle in ''Smash'' is befitting of his nature as a GeniusBruiser, since it requires a lot of patience, attention attention, and good reflexes rather than simply rushing in and clobbering foes, as [[DumbMuscle Bowser]] is meant to do in ''[=SSB4=]''.



* On a more glum note, Bayonetta has been touted as an overpowered character to the point that some tournaments have banned her from use. How did she end up so strong despite Sakurai sticking so close to the source material? Well, to be blunt, it's ''because'' of the source material, and a good example of how ShownTheirWork can have an ugly side. Ryu got away with it due to being a Fighting Game character to begin with, and Cloud comes with a notable drawback due to how restrictive his LimitBreak mechanic can be, but Bayonetta is a very different beast: both ''{{Bayonetta}}'' and ''Bayonetta2'' are high-octane {{spectacle fighter}}s that have a considerably faster pace than ''Smash [=3DS/U=]'', the highest-tier medals in the games require a player of a pretty high caliber to obtain, and the heroine herself brings powerful abilities that, while bread and butter in her own series where most major enemies don't flinch, are just overkill in ''Smash'''s combat system - Witch Time and Bat Within are the worst offenders, by far. Bayo players that are adjusted to the playstyle of both series' (and with ''Bayonetta 2'' as a Wii U title, there ''will'' be people who have played both) are given a tremendous advantage over every other character simply because the rest of the cast can't keep up. While it's a testament to Sakurai's ingenuity that a character with Bayonetta's abilities (and... raciness) works in the game at all and is perfectly fun to play, in the competitive scene it ultimately ended up better on paper than in practice.

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* On a more glum note, Bayonetta has been touted as an overpowered character to the point that some tournaments have banned her from use. How did she end up so strong despite Sakurai sticking so close to the source material? Well, to be blunt, it's ''because'' of the source material, and a good example of how ShownTheirWork can have an ugly side. Ryu got away with it due to being a Fighting Game character to begin with, and Cloud comes with a notable drawback due to how restrictive his LimitBreak mechanic can be, but Bayonetta is a very different beast: both ''{{Bayonetta}}'' and ''Bayonetta2'' are high-octane {{spectacle fighter}}s that have a considerably faster pace than ''Smash [=3DS/U=]'', the highest-tier medals in the games require a player of a pretty high caliber to obtain, and the heroine herself brings powerful abilities that, while bread and butter in her own series where most major enemies don't flinch, are just overkill in ''Smash'''s combat system - -- Witch Time and Bat Within are the worst offenders, by far. Bayo players that are adjusted to the playstyle of both series' (and with ''Bayonetta 2'' as a Wii U title, there ''will'' be people who have played both) are given a tremendous advantage over every other character simply because the rest of the cast can't keep up. While it's a testament to Sakurai's ingenuity that a character with Bayonetta's abilities (and... raciness) works in the game at all and is perfectly fun to play, in the competitive scene it ultimately ended up better on paper than in practice.



* According to Sakurai, Roy was included as a clone in Melee due I.S's description of him being [[https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/05/25/reminder-sakurai-isnt-using-smash-to-advertise-nintendo-hes-celebrating-it/ "a young, inexperienced swordfighter with potential"]], alluding to his role as an average unit with balanced growths, who'd have to played as King in Chess-game that is [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem 6]]. This however, led Roy to easily become a very mediocre unit in experience of Western fanbase. Japanese fanbases is shown to be more forgiving due him being "inexperienced" and King-analogy on his average stats prior to his promotion that buffs him massively.
** Not only is Roy average at best in his game, but his competitive performance in Melee's tier list is shown to be poor: he' ranked as 20nth character, being inferior to Marth's and hard-countered by most higher tier characters in the game. This is due his lack of killing power, while being easily suspectible for kills himself due his fast falling speed.

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* According to Sakurai, Roy was included as a clone in Melee due to I.S's description of him being [[https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/05/25/reminder-sakurai-isnt-using-smash-to-advertise-nintendo-hes-celebrating-it/ "a young, inexperienced swordfighter with potential"]], alluding to his role as an average unit with balanced growths, who'd have to be played as the King in the Chess-game that is [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem 6]]. This however, led Roy to easily become a very mediocre unit in the experience of Western fanbase. The Japanese fanbases fanbase is shown to be more forgiving due to him being "inexperienced" and accepting th King-analogy on his average stats prior to his promotion that buffs him massively.
** Not only is Roy average at best in his game, but his competitive performance in Melee's tier list is shown to be poor: he' he's ranked as 20nth the 20th character, being inferior to Marth's and hard-countered by most higher tier characters in the game. This is due to his lack of killing power, while being easily suspectible for kills himself due to his fast falling speed.



** Wasn't Sonic also one of the main reasons Brawl was delayed so much? It just gets more and more meta!

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** Wasn't Sonic also one of the main reasons Brawl ''Brawl'' was delayed so much? It just gets more and more meta!



* Why does Pokemon Trainer/Red have such a scratchy, hoarse, annoying voice? [[HeroicMime Well... he isn't used to using his voice, is he?]]

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* Why does Pokemon Pokémo Trainer/Red have such a scratchy, hoarse, annoying voice? [[HeroicMime Well... he isn't used to using his voice, is he?]]



* in ''Subspace Emissary'', the Pokémon Trainer faints at one point. ''Pokémon'' protagonists often "blacken out" or just "faint" after they lose a battle.

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* in In ''Subspace Emissary'', the Pokémon Trainer faints at one point. ''Pokémon'' protagonists often "blacken "black out" or just "faint" after they lose a battle.



* When the heroes perform their assault on the Entrance to Subspace, there's only one Arwing, even though an Arwing is a one-person vehicle (well, you can cram a another small person in if you have to.) Weird... Until you remember that Sheik wrecked Fox's Arwing. It's probably actually Falco's we see flying. -- {{Tropers/diddyknux}}
* When Peach and Zelda are saved and on the Halberd in ''Subspace Emmisary'', the next scene shows Zelda, now as Sheik, planning their escape. Why does Peach smile at Sheik as the two left the room they were held captive in? Remember that, in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', Sheik was never used, but was planned to be in the game. Not to mention that Peach, being a princess, probably has had experience with tailoring clothes (a girl needs SOME kind of hobby, right?). Who's to say Peach didn't make the Sheik costume herself during the scene transition? - {{Tropers/Muigi}}

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* When the heroes perform their assault on the Entrance to Subspace, there's only one Arwing, even though an Arwing is a one-person vehicle (well, you can cram a another small person in if you have to.) to). Weird... Until you remember that Sheik wrecked Fox's Arwing. It's probably actually Falco's we see flying. -- {{Tropers/diddyknux}}
* When Peach and Zelda are saved and on the Halberd in ''Subspace Emmisary'', Emissary'', the next scene shows Zelda, now as Sheik, planning their escape. Why does Peach smile at Sheik as the two left the room they were held captive in? Remember that, in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', Sheik was never used, but was planned to be in the game. Not to mention that Peach, being a princess, probably has had experience with tailoring clothes (a girl needs SOME kind of hobby, right?). Who's to say Peach didn't make the Sheik costume herself during the scene transition? - {{Tropers/Muigi}}



** All the scenes between these two display the depth of the differences between Zelda and Peach. While Sheik jumps out onto the bridge absolutely serious and on guard, Peach is just as bubbly as ever, just enjoying the ride. Before then, they were both shown in the story to act as generally [[BadassPrincess regal women who can fight]] [[RashomonStyle because they were both being used to fill the same role in the story,]] but now that Zelda has [[LetsGetDangerous gotten serious about things]] we can see [[TomboyAndGirlyGirl how different the two of them truly are]] and additionally, how well they get along and fight together not just in spite of, but BECAUSE of it.

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** All the scenes between these two display the depth of the differences between Zelda and Peach. While Sheik jumps out onto the bridge absolutely serious and on guard, Peach is just as bubbly as ever, just enjoying the ride. Before then, they were both shown in the story to act as generally [[BadassPrincess regal women who can fight]] [[RashomonStyle because they were both being used to fill the same role in the story,]] but now that Zelda has [[LetsGetDangerous gotten serious about things]] things]], we can see [[TomboyAndGirlyGirl how different the two of them truly are]] and additionally, how well they get along and fight together not just in spite of, but BECAUSE of it.



* In Pit's Codec, Snake asks if he's a mutant. Not only is this [[Franchise/XMen an X-Men reference]], but it's a bit of actor/director allusion, as DavidHayter, the voice of Snake, wrote scripts for the [[Film/XMen1 first]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited two]] ''Film/XMen'' movies (Angel did not appear in them, but was planned, however.)

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* In Pit's Codec, Snake asks if he's a mutant. Not only is this [[Franchise/XMen an X-Men reference]], but it's a bit of actor/director allusion, as DavidHayter, the voice of Snake, wrote scripts for the [[Film/XMen1 first]] [[Film/X2XMenUnited two]] ''Film/XMen'' movies (Angel did not appear in them, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen but was planned, however.)planned]]).



* In Snake's codec for Luigi, when Cambell calls him the [[AlwaysSecondBest "king of second bananas"]] ,Snake is rather defensive about Luigi. Makes sense. He's seen [[TheUnfavorite what]] [[WellDoneSonGuy it's like.]]

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* In Snake's codec for Luigi, when Cambell calls him the [[AlwaysSecondBest "king of second bananas"]] ,Snake bananas"]], Snake is rather defensive about Luigi. Makes sense. He's seen [[TheUnfavorite what]] [[WellDoneSonGuy it's like.]]



** Yes, but does that make sense in any language other than English?



** Even better, Lucario is Fighting/Steel, while Charizard is Fire/Flying. This means Lucario has a weakness to BOTH of Charizard's types. This may seem unfair, until you remember [[ComebackMechanic Lucario gains strength when he takes damage,]] and Lucario's Steel Type nullifies Charizard's Flying Type anyway. They are also the only Pokemon who have their Mega Evolution as their Final Smash.
* Luigi's Final Smash changed in ''Wii U/3DS'', from Negative Zone to the Poltergust. It's because the Negative Zone was inspired by all the time Luigi spent in his brother's shadow - but thanks to the Year of Luigi back in 2013, that's no longer the case.

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** Even better, Lucario is Fighting/Steel, while Charizard is Fire/Flying. This means Lucario has a weakness to BOTH of Charizard's types. This may seem unfair, until you remember [[ComebackMechanic Lucario gains strength when he takes damage,]] and Lucario's Steel Type nullifies Charizard's Flying Type anyway. They are also the only Pokemon Pokémon who have their Mega Evolution as their Final Smash.
* Luigi's Final Smash changed in ''Wii U/3DS'', from Negative Zone to the Poltergust. It's because the Negative Zone was inspired by all the time Luigi spent in his brother's shadow - -- but thanks to the Year of Luigi back in 2013, that's no longer the case.



* In Palutena's reveal trailer, she's shown to be capable of outrunning ''Sonic'' after using the [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Lightweight]] power. Many people called BS, but then you realize: Sonic can move somewhat faster than the speed of sound, while Palutena is the Goddess of Light. Light is way faster than sound. Or at least, her trailer might be making that jokw. In-game, she's pretty close, but still not quite faster than him.

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* In Palutena's reveal trailer, she's shown to be capable of outrunning ''Sonic'' after using the [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Lightweight]] power. Many people called BS, but then you realize: Sonic can move somewhat faster than the speed of sound, while Palutena is the Goddess of Light. Light is way faster than sound. Or at least, her trailer might be making that jokw.joke. In-game, she's pretty close, but still not quite faster than him.



* Why do Pit and Palutena talk so casually about [[spoiler: the Chaos Kin]] during the latter's reveal trailer even though it's part of a big WhamEpisode for ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''? In their respective game, just about everyone breaks the fourth wall at some point and makes several quips about video games in general, so talking about a boss that's normally spoiler heavy is actually not that big a deal for an angel and a goddess who also state they love playing ''Super Smash Bros Brawl''.

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* Why do Pit and Palutena talk so casually about [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin]] during the latter's reveal trailer even though it's part of a big WhamEpisode for ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''? In their respective game, just about everyone breaks the fourth wall at some point and makes several quips about video games in general, so talking about a boss that's normally spoiler heavy is actually not that big a deal for an angel and a goddess who also state they love playing ''Super Smash Bros Brawl''.



** Also, Link and Pit being rivals serves as an interesting CallBack to the Subspace Emissary. Recall that when they fought there, they each had someone on their side (for Pit, Mario and for Link, Yoshi.)

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** Also, Link and Pit being rivals serves as an interesting CallBack to the Subspace Emissary. Recall that when they fought there, they each had someone on their side (for Pit, Mario and for Link, Yoshi.)Yoshi).



** Actually, in the Wii U version of VideoGame/RaymanLegends there were Mario and Luigi costumes for Rayman and Globox so it would only make sense for them to cameo in a Nintendo game.

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** Actually, in the Wii U version of VideoGame/RaymanLegends VideoGame/RaymanLegends, there were Mario and Luigi costumes for Rayman and Globox Globox, so it would only make sense for them to cameo in a Nintendo game.



** Notice how the fourth game marks the first time Marth isn't unlockable. Then look at Lucina, who just so happens to be unlockable in her first appearence in the smash series.

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** Notice how the fourth game marks the first time Marth isn't unlockable. Then look at Lucina, who just so happens to be unlockable in her first appearence in the smash Smash series.



* During the reveal of Robin and Lucina, they casually talk about their foes, Robin's abilities, and [[WorthyOpponent the heroes of legend from their own series.]] The theme from ''Melee'' plays, which is called "Fire Emblem". But in reality, it's a remix of the popular fire emblem theme "Together we Ride" with the main theme. This makes it a whole reference to the series, where characters literally talk about their foes and have normal chats on the battlefield, while they fight together (a popular gameplay element within the franchise). Lucina even references it at one point.

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* During the reveal of Robin and Lucina, they casually talk about their foes, Robin's abilities, and [[WorthyOpponent the heroes of legend from their own series.]] The theme from ''Melee'' plays, which is called "Fire Emblem". But in reality, it's a remix of the popular fire emblem Fire Emblem theme "Together we Ride" with the main theme. This makes it a whole reference to the series, where characters literally talk about their foes and have normal chats on the battlefield, while they fight together (a popular gameplay element within the franchise). Lucina even references it at one point.



* While it's here, there's also some brilliance regarding Lucina's Final Smash line: "Time to change fate!" Why is it that instead of her actual, in-game critical quote? Because [[spoiler: ''she already HAS changed fate before! In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening,]] Grima is defeated and either dead for good or sealed away, when it was destined that he would win. Also, in the Future Past, Lucina straight up defies fate once more by directly defeating Grima herself!'']] of course it's different!

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* While it's here, there's also some brilliance regarding Lucina's Final Smash line: "Time to change fate!" Why is it that instead of her actual, in-game critical quote? Because [[spoiler: ''she [[spoiler:''she already HAS changed fate before! In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening,]] Grima is defeated and either dead for good or sealed away, when it was destined that he would win. Also, in the Future Past, Lucina straight up defies fate once more by directly ''directly defeating Grima herself!'']] of Of course it's different!



*** Even the music heard throughout most of the trailer (You Will Know Our Names) references something, namely how there's three legendary heroes of Bionis with him - Dunban, the original wielder of the Monado and hero of the Battle of Sword Valley. Riki, the "Heropon" among his species, the Nopon (for the year). And Shulk, who gains popularity as the new wielder of the Monado as the game and story progresses.

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*** Even the music heard throughout most of the trailer (You Will Know Our Names) references something, namely how there's three legendary heroes of Bionis with him - -- Dunban, the original wielder of the Monado and hero of the Battle of Sword Valley. Riki, the "Heropon" among his species, the Nopon (for the year). And Shulk, who gains popularity as the new wielder of the Monado as the game and story progresses.



** Time will tell if [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud's]] slot is next to Shulk's and Pac-Man's, as well, since even before Namco, Monolith Soft was originally part of Creator/SquareEnix, known at the time for making Xenosaga's own predecessor game, ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'' (which, [[HilariousInHindsight amusingly enough]], was originally a concept for ''Final Fantasy VII'' before ExecutiveMeddling turned it into it's own series). This nicely groups Cloud and Pac-Man together (with Shulk to a lesser extent, being a first-party Nintendo character), considering that they are the sole representatives of Square Enix and Namco whereas both Sega (Sonic and Bayonetta) and Capcom (Mega Man and Ryu) have two each.

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** Time will tell if [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud's]] slot is next to Shulk's and Pac-Man's, as well, since even before Namco, Monolith Soft was originally part of Creator/SquareEnix, known at the time for making Xenosaga's own predecessor game, ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'' (which, [[HilariousInHindsight amusingly enough]], was originally a concept for ''Final Fantasy VII'' before ExecutiveMeddling turned it into it's its own series). This nicely groups Cloud and Pac-Man together (with Shulk to a lesser extent, being a first-party Nintendo character), considering that they are the sole representatives of Square Enix and Namco whereas both Sega (Sonic and Bayonetta) and Capcom (Mega Man and Ryu) have two each.



* Shulk's CounterAttack, [[CombatClairvoyance Vision]], is unique in that slows down the offending opponent, leaving them wide open for the counter attack. This mirrors how his visions work during gameplay in ''VideoGame/{{Xenoblade}}'': They force the enemy into charging their attack for a few seconds, giving the party time to strategize a countermeasure. Of course, this is far quicker in ''Smash'', but the core remains the same.

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* Shulk's CounterAttack, [[CombatClairvoyance Vision]], is unique in that it slows down the offending opponent, leaving them wide open for the counter attack. This mirrors how his visions work during gameplay in ''VideoGame/{{Xenoblade}}'': They force the enemy into charging their attack for a few seconds, giving the party time to strategize a countermeasure. Of course, this is far quicker in ''Smash'', but the core remains the same.



* Most "Screen [=KOs=]" in ''Wii U/3DS'' have the characters crash the screen face-first; that is, all of them save for Shulk, who crashes Monado-first. He probably [[CombatClairvoyance saw his painful future]], and did what he could to keep his face safe. Granted, a {{BFS}} like the Monado being crushed against his back must still hurt like hell, but still.

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* Most "Screen [=KOs=]" in ''Wii U/3DS'' have the characters crash into the screen face-first; that is, all of them save for Shulk, who crashes Monado-first. He probably [[CombatClairvoyance saw his painful future]], and did what he could to keep his face safe. Granted, a {{BFS}} like the Monado being crushed against his back must still hurt like hell, but still.



** Mushroomy Kingdom: ''SuperMarioBros Deluxe''

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** Mushroomy Kingdom: ''SuperMarioBros ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros Deluxe''



* At first it might seem cheap that all of Pac-Man's alternate costumes are of him wearing different colored wrist cuffs and leg warmers, and you might think it's because they didn't want to sacrifice his famous yellow color for different costumes until you realize: Pac-Man the game was released in UsefulNotes/TheEighties. The 80's were when wrist cuffs and leg warmers were the most popular.

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* At first first, it might seem cheap that all of Pac-Man's alternate costumes are of him wearing different colored wrist cuffs and leg warmers, and you might think it's because they didn't want to sacrifice his famous yellow color for different costumes until you realize: Pac-Man the game was released in UsefulNotes/TheEighties. The 80's were when wrist cuffs and leg warmers were the most popular.



* In the Wii U version, one of Metal Face's taunts towards Shulk is about how the Monado shouldn't be able to hurt him. Of course, since Shulk can [[spoiler: hurt the other human/humanoid fighters normally while wielding the Monado]] it stands to reason that he'd be able to damage a Face Mechon.
** Another possible interpretation is that the Monado can hurt Metal Face because everyone else can do it. In ''Xenoblade'' Face Mechon are NighInvulnerable against anything that isn't a weapon made out of Mechonis material, at least at first. It stands to reason that if anything can hurt Metal Face in ''Smash'', the Monado can too.
* When Kirby copies Shulk; he gains a Monado, However he never uses it to attack. If you consider that the Monado [[spoiler: initially cannot harm any Homs or other humanoid beings native to Bionis]], it would make sense that if Shulk was the only opponent Kirby was facing. There would be no reason for Kirby to slash Shulk with the Monado. [[spoiler: Kirby would not be able to harm Shulk with it. Kirby would only be able to attack him with his body or with his own weapons.]]

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* In the Wii U version, one of Metal Face's taunts towards Shulk is about how the Monado shouldn't be able to hurt him. Of course, since Shulk can [[spoiler: hurt [[spoiler:hurt the other human/humanoid fighters normally while wielding the Monado]] Monado]]. it stands to reason that he'd be able to damage a Face Mechon.
** Another possible interpretation is that the Monado can hurt Metal Face because everyone else can do it. In ''Xenoblade'' ''Xenoblade'', Face Mechon are NighInvulnerable against anything that isn't a weapon made out of Mechonis material, at least at first. It stands to reason that if anything can hurt Metal Face in ''Smash'', the Monado can too.
* When Kirby copies Shulk; Shulk, he gains a Monado, However Monado. However, he never uses it to attack. If you consider that the Monado [[spoiler: initially [[spoiler:initially cannot harm any Homs or other humanoid beings native to Bionis]], it would make sense that if Shulk was the only opponent Kirby was facing. There facing, there would be no reason for Kirby to slash Shulk with the Monado. [[spoiler: Kirby [[spoiler:Kirby would not be able to harm Shulk with it. Kirby would only be able to attack him with his body or with his own weapons.]]



** Ness and Jigglypuff, two of the SSB64 Unlockables (3DS) are listed like they are because Earthbound came out before Pokemon, so Jigglypuff comes before Ness.

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** Ness and Jigglypuff, two of the SSB64 Unlockables (3DS) are listed like they are because Earthbound came out before Pokemon, Pokémon, so Jigglypuff comes before Ness.



* Charizard gets a double dose of this. In ''Brawl'', Charizard was a Physical attacker, despite its species having better Special stats. This was a Charizard under the ownership of the Pokémon Trainer Red. [[Anime/PokemonOrigins Come pre-Gen VI]], and Red is training a Charizard that specializes in physical attacks - which makes a lot more sense when Charizard's [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons X-Type Mega Evolution]] shows up. Then, next bout in Smash, Red sends his Charizard back to Smash again - ''with'' the Charizardite X that Mr. Fuji gave him!

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* Charizard gets a double dose of this. In ''Brawl'', Charizard was a Physical attacker, despite its species having better Special stats. This was a Charizard under the ownership of the Pokémon Trainer Red. [[Anime/PokemonOrigins Come pre-Gen VI]], and Red is training a Charizard that specializes in physical attacks - -- which makes a lot more sense when Charizard's [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons X-Type Mega Evolution]] shows up. Then, next bout in Smash, Red sends his Charizard back to Smash again - -- ''with'' the Charizardite X that Mr. Fuji gave him!



* The Mother 3 theme playing while Ness is getting wailed on in Lucas's trailer is more than simple foresahdowing. The lyrics of the song are calling out to the listener to help "the small child who walks his path alone". In the original game Lucas was the small child, this time he's the one answering the call.
* Sakurai explains that even the minor of differences between characters will make that character unique, hence why Lucina became a clone instead of a costume for Marth. But what about Pit and Dark Pit? They're literally clones of each other, but they were separated as different characters. Why? [[spoiler:Well, since Dark Pit is considered [[AntiHero the opposite of Pit]], it would be kind of odd to see a rogue wield the Three Sacred Treasures given to [[ColonelBadass Palutena's guard captain]], now wouldn't it?]]

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* The Mother 3 theme playing while Ness is getting wailed on in Lucas's trailer is more than simple foresahdowing. The lyrics of the song are calling out to the listener to help "the small child who walks his path alone". In the original game game, Lucas was the small child, child; this time time, he's the one answering the call.
* Sakurai explains that even the most minor of differences between characters will make that character unique, hence why Lucina became a clone instead of a costume for Marth. But what about Pit and Dark Pit? They're literally clones of each other, but they were separated as different characters. Why? [[spoiler:Well, since Dark Pit is considered [[AntiHero the opposite of Pit]], it would be kind of odd to see a rogue wield the Three Sacred Treasures given to [[ColonelBadass Palutena's guard captain]], now now, wouldn't it?]]



*** Viridi's "intruder from another dimension" hypothesis might not be too far from the truth, considering how [[StreetFighter Ryu]] left [[VideoGame/AsurasWrath the last crossover he was in]]: kicked into outer space by Akuma and caught into some kind of wormhole. Yes, Akuma sent Ryu to ''Super Smash Bros.'' just so he could fight Asura on a one-on-one.

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*** Viridi's "intruder from another dimension" hypothesis might not be too far from the truth, considering how [[StreetFighter Ryu]] left [[VideoGame/AsurasWrath the last crossover he was in]]: kicked into outer space by Akuma and caught into some kind of wormhole. Yes, Akuma sent Ryu to ''Super Smash Bros.'' just so he could fight Asura on in a one-on-one.



** Not to mention that it actually ''is'' possible, and most likely canon for, Roy to be a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Manakete]], albeit only [[HalfHumanHybrid one-quarter]].

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** Not to mention that it actually ''is'' possible, and most likely canon for, canon, for Roy to be a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Manakete]], albeit only [[HalfHumanHybrid one-quarter]].



* Pit's [[RedBaron alias]] on the Punch Out stage is [[ColonelBadass "Captain Of Palutena's Guard"]], which is a very fitting title. Not only is it a somewhat long title ([[{{Adorkable}} Pit's not that great with one-liners]]), but Pit also makes it very clear that he holds [[UndyingLoyalty his loyalty to Palutena over all else]]

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* Pit's [[RedBaron alias]] on the Punch Out stage is [[ColonelBadass "Captain Of Palutena's Guard"]], which is a very fitting title. Not only is it a somewhat long title ([[{{Adorkable}} Pit's not that great with one-liners]]), but Pit also makes it very clear that he holds [[UndyingLoyalty his loyalty to Palutena over all else]]else]].



* Cloud's inclusion into the Smash roster might seem off putting to some seeing as how he was never in a Nintendo game. However, not many know this but ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was meant to be a N64 exclusive, but the idea was scraped.
** Also, Cloud has shown up as a minor character in a couple of games released on Nintendo - including the (initially) 3DS exclusive, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy.

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* Cloud's inclusion into the Smash roster might seem off putting to some seeing as how he was never in a Nintendo game. However, not many know this this, but ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was meant to be a N64 exclusive, but the idea was scraped.
scrapped.
** Also, Cloud has shown up as a minor character in a couple of games released on Nintendo - including the (initially) 3DS exclusive, exclusive Theatrhythm Final Fantasy.



* The new DLC (Ryu, Corrin, Cloud and Bayonetta) characters appear a bit overpowered due to their mechanics giving them a crazy number of options for damaging opponents (especially when compared to vanilla-version fighters). This makes sense as being DLC characters, they don't have access to custom moves.
* By sheer coincidence, the three 3rd party DLC characters (Ryu, Cloud and Bayonetta) have the same fighting styles as the three varieties of Mii Fighters (Brawler, Swordfighter and Gunner). They even have the same gender ratio as the official artwork (male brawler, male swordfighter, female gunner).

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* The new DLC (Ryu, Corrin, Cloud Cloud, and Bayonetta) characters appear a bit overpowered due to their mechanics giving them a crazy number of options for damaging opponents (especially when compared to vanilla-version fighters). This makes sense as being DLC characters, they don't have access to custom moves.
* By sheer coincidence, the three 3rd party DLC characters (Ryu, Cloud Cloud, and Bayonetta) have the same fighting styles as the three varieties of Mii Fighters (Brawler, Swordfighter and Gunner). They even have the same gender ratio as the official artwork (male brawler, male swordfighter, female gunner).



** This also explains why he has the Omega Yato, which only comes into play in ''Revelation'' when the divine weapons of his brothers from both sides (Xander's Siegfried, Leo's Brynhildr, Ryoma's Raijinto and Takumi's Fujin Yumi) react to the Yato. Corrin is already fighting with the full support of both of his families.
* Mega Man's final smash, "Mega Legends" has every Mega Man incarnation from every series in the franchise's history, except for Copy X from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero''[[note]][[ArtifactTitle Don't be fooled by that title]], Zero is ''not'' an incarnation of Mega Man by any means; from a development perspective he was originally an incarnation of Blues (or Proto Man if you will) and from an in-universe perspective, he's more or less the successor to Bass.[[/note]] and Vent and Aile from ''VideoGame/MegaManZX''. While it makes sense immediately that Copy X isn't present, [[BigBad being a bad guy and all]], Vent and Aile have another good reason for not showing up; only one of them can use Biometal Model X at a time, and he's already standing there as VideoGame/MegaManX himself! In a sense, X represents not only the ''X'' series, but ''Zero'' and ''ZX'' as well.
* Many competitive and casual players consider Corrin as the best of the Fire Emblem characters, mostly due to his Dragon Fang ability giving him disjointed hitboxes that the other characters could only dream of. That already gives Corrin a tactical edge against his fellow swordsmen (and Robin), but the real reason he's better than the rest? It's because of Corrin's weapon, the Omega Yato blade [[spoiler: or, as ''Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation'' revealed, the Fire Emblem, which is canonically THE most powerful weapon in the franchise]], so in addition to his dragon powers, he's already a better-equipped unit than the rest of them.
* Cloud possesses four Meteor Smashes[[note]]Forward Aerial, Down Aerial, Climhazzard's follow-up, the final blow of Omnislash (even more so considering the visual effects)[[/note]], which is a lot compared to the rest of the roster; only characters like Donkey Kong, Wii Fit Trainer and Ganondorf match a similar amount. Note the {{Irony}} considering what exactly he tried to stop in his [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII home game.]] It could also be a reference to the only LimitBreak in Cloud's arsenal to not appear in any way (if one considers Braver to either be his Forward Aerial or the Climhazzard follow-up), Meteorain.

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** This also explains why he has the Omega Yato, which only comes into play in ''Revelation'' when the divine weapons of his brothers from both sides (Xander's Siegfried, Leo's Brynhildr, Ryoma's Raijinto Raijinto, and Takumi's Fujin Yumi) react to the Yato. Corrin is already fighting with the full support of both of his families.
* Mega Man's final smash, "Mega Legends" Legends", has every Mega Man incarnation from every series in the franchise's history, except for Copy X from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero''[[note]][[ArtifactTitle Don't be fooled by that title]], Zero is ''not'' an incarnation of Mega Man by any means; from a development perspective he was originally an incarnation of Blues (or Proto Man if you will) and from an in-universe perspective, he's more or less the successor to Bass.[[/note]] Bass[[/note]] and Vent and Aile from ''VideoGame/MegaManZX''. While it makes sense immediately that Copy X isn't present, [[BigBad being a bad guy and all]], Vent and Aile have another good reason for not showing up; only one of them can use Biometal Model X at a time, and he's already standing there as VideoGame/MegaManX himself! In a sense, X represents not only the ''X'' series, but ''Zero'' and ''ZX'' as well.
* Many competitive and casual players consider Corrin as the best of the Fire Emblem characters, mostly due to his Dragon Fang ability giving him disjointed hitboxes that the other characters could only dream of. That already gives Corrin a tactical edge against his fellow swordsmen (and Robin), but the real reason he's better than the rest? It's because of Corrin's weapon, the Omega Yato blade [[spoiler: or, [[spoiler:or, as ''Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation'' revealed, the Fire Emblem, which is canonically THE most powerful weapon in the franchise]], so in addition to his dragon powers, he's already a better-equipped unit than the rest of them.
* Cloud possesses four Meteor Smashes[[note]]Forward Aerial, Down Aerial, Climhazzard's follow-up, the final blow of Omnislash (even more so considering the visual effects)[[/note]], which is a lot compared to the rest of the roster; only characters like Donkey Kong, Wii Fit Trainer Trainer, and Ganondorf match a similar amount. Note the {{Irony}} considering what exactly he tried to stop in his [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII home game.]] It could also be a reference to the only LimitBreak in Cloud's arsenal to not appear in any way (if one considers Braver to either be his Forward Aerial or the Climhazzard follow-up), Meteorain.



* A rather sweet case considering their initially popular rivalry that was played for comedy by both Roy's reveal and the fans long before and after such - it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why Lord Roy's iconic leaning pose from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]
* One of Ryu's reactions to getting [=KOed=] is a simple FlatWhat, whereas the majority of the cast scream out in pain when the same happens to them. He's actually expressing surprise at how he's defeated, and not in an ArrogantKungFuGuy kind of way. In every single fighting game appearance he's made, fights are settled by knocking the opponent out unconscious while ''Smash'' has fighters trying to score [=KOs=] via RingOut. Ryu is shocked because ''Smash'' doesn't adhere to a rule his home series, and the other crossovers he's been in, follow.

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* A rather sweet case considering their initially popular rivalry that was played for comedy by both Roy's reveal and the fans long before and after such - it is shown that both Roy Koopa and Lord Roy had possibly "made up" and hanged out [[http://pinkx2.tumblr.com/post/121544784962/oh-my-god-nintendo driving on 3DS Rainbow Road]] on the 3DS-version. Come then Videogame/MarioKart8, where Roy Koopa is now a playable racer in the game. Guess what is one of the tricks he can do? [[http://imgur.com/a/5SBIX Why Why, Lord Roy's iconic leaning pose from Melee,]] [[HeartwarmingInHindsight of course!]]
* One of Ryu's reactions to getting [=KOed=] is a simple FlatWhat, whereas the majority of the cast scream out in pain when the same happens to them. He's actually expressing surprise at how he's defeated, and not in an ArrogantKungFuGuy kind of way. In every single fighting game appearance he's made, fights are settled by knocking the opponent out unconscious while ''Smash'' has fighters trying to score [=KOs=] via RingOut. Ryu is shocked because ''Smash'' doesn't adhere to a rule his home series, and the other crossovers he's been in, follow.
11th Dec '16 12:45:51 AM TaylorHyuuga
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* Fox and Falco's respective specializations in fast-paced ground and aerial combat make sense considering [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin what kind of animals they are.]] Foxes normally don't fly and [[CaptainObvious stick to the ground]], whereas birds [[MemeticMutation prefer the air.]]

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* Fox and Falco's respective specializations in fast-paced ground and aerial combat make sense considering [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin what kind of animals they are.]] Foxes normally don't fly and [[CaptainObvious stick to the ground]], whereas birds [[MemeticMutation prefer the air.]]
2nd Dec '16 3:06:50 PM Megachamp
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** Also about Pit: In ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'', Dark Pit says the original is a knockoff of him, when it's actually the other way round. For this game, Pit may have changed his fighting style to prove that Dark Pit is the clone.

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** Also about Pit: In ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'', Dark Pit says the original is a knockoff of him, when it's actually the other way round. For this game, Pit may have changed his fighting style to prove that Dark Pit is the clone.'''clone'''.


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* Asides from the obvious "Gamer is a Warioware stage", there's another reason Ashely's theme is in Gamer: it's a '''horror'''-themed stage since the stage has you avoiding [[HumanoidAbomination 9-Volt's Mom]], with terrifying music to boot. Guess which WarioWare character is horror-themed.
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