History Fridge / SpecOpsTheLine

21st Aug '16 8:48:00 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. Lugo and Adam also produce a Deagle from nowhere in certain chapters. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. Now, consider [[spoiler: Konrad's rant that Walker thinks he's a fantasy action hero, and the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for action heroes. Yep, that's right-he's deluding himself into thinking that he's a 1980s badass and doing the same to his comrades. A good sign that he's not the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]

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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. Lugo and Adam also produce a Deagle from nowhere in certain chapters. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. And to top it all off, as cool as it is, the Deagle is a very impractical choice of sidearm for any situation outside hunting. Now, consider [[spoiler: Konrad's rant that Walker thinks he's a fantasy action hero, and the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for action heroes. Yep, that's right-he's deluding himself into thinking that he's a 1980s badass and doing the same to his comrades. A good sign that he's not the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]]]
30th Jul '16 8:07:51 AM Anddrix
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* The White Phosphorus is growing to be a bit of a BaseBreaker: Either it was a case of gloriously [[NightmareFuel and vividly]] deconstructing what so many FPS's go through easily or the incident was a nasty case of CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption. But if the above fridges are taken seriously, the latter criticism could be irrelevant; [[spoiler:Even if Konrad was right about the majority of the story's events being in Walker's head, the player still had to go through with them anyways]]. The game wasn't forcing us to do anything, it was Walker's mind telling himself IDidWhatIHadToDo!

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* The White Phosphorus is growing to be a bit of a BaseBreaker: divisive: Either it was a case of gloriously [[NightmareFuel and vividly]] deconstructing what so many FPS's go through easily or the incident was a nasty case of CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption. But if the above fridges are taken seriously, the latter criticism could be irrelevant; [[spoiler:Even if Konrad was right about the majority of the story's events being in Walker's head, the player still had to go through with them anyways]]. The game wasn't forcing us to do anything, it was Walker's mind telling himself IDidWhatIHadToDo!
8th Jun '16 11:35:09 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. Lugo and Adam also produce a Deagle from nowhere in certain chapters. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. Now, consider [[spoiler: Konrad's rant that Walker thinks he's a fantasy action hero, and the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for action heroes. Yep, that's right-he and his comrades are deluding themselves into thinking that they're 1980s badasses and not the disciplined soldiers they used to be.]]

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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. Lugo and Adam also produce a Deagle from nowhere in certain chapters. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. Now, consider [[spoiler: Konrad's rant that Walker thinks he's a fantasy action hero, and the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for action heroes. Yep, that's right-he and his comrades are right-he's deluding themselves himself into thinking that they're he's a 1980s badasses badass and doing the same to his comrades. A good sign that he's not the disciplined soldiers they soldier he used to be.]]
8th Jun '16 11:31:32 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* It's implied that Adams [[spoiler:took out all of the 33rd's remaining soldiers before being killed.]] While this seems ridiculous, the last thing you hear as you run away is what sounds like a helicopter going out of control, followed by an explosion, implying that [[spoilers:Adams was able to bring down the helicopter, and the resulting explosion killed both him and the 33rd soldiers.]]

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* It's implied that Adams [[spoiler:took out all of the 33rd's remaining soldiers before being killed.]] While this seems ridiculous, the last thing you hear as you run away is what sounds like a helicopter going out of control, followed by an explosion, implying that [[spoilers:Adams [[spoiler:Adams was able to bring down the helicopter, and the resulting explosion killed both him and the 33rd soldiers.]]
24th May '16 2:45:43 PM Jake18
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* It's implied that Adams [[spoiler:took out all of the 33rd's remaining soldiers before being killed.]] While this seems ridiculous, the last thing you hear as you run away is what sounds like a helicopter going out of control, followed by an explosion, implying that [[spoilers:Adams was able to bring down the helicopter, and the resulting explosion killed both him and the 33rd soldiers.]]
29th Apr '16 11:52:07 AM Aetol
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** Walker's reaction to his gradual awareness that his presence in Dubai is actively making the situation worse is to deny reality and embrace fantasy, shift the blame for his wrongdoing onto somebody else and push forward because he wants to be a hero, all the while growing increasingly frustrated that he cannot be the hero he wants to be. Similarly, the archetypal player will ignore the horrific consequences of their actions and insist that "it's only a video game, it's just entertainment", blame the developers for railroading them into committing horrific acts (especially the [[spoiler:white phosphorous incident]]) and keep playing the game to the end, growing increasingly frustrated when the game denies them the escapist fantasy they wanted from it.

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** Walker's reaction to his gradual awareness that his presence in Dubai is actively making the situation worse is to deny reality and embrace fantasy, shift the blame for his wrongdoing onto somebody else and push forward because he wants to be a hero, all the while growing increasingly frustrated that he cannot be the hero he wants to be. Similarly, the archetypal player will ignore the horrific consequences of their actions and insist that "it's only a video game, it's just entertainment", blame the developers for railroading them into committing horrific acts (especially the [[spoiler:white phosphorous phosphorus incident]]) and keep playing the game to the end, growing increasingly frustrated when the game denies them the escapist fantasy they wanted from it.



** The development team were aiming for one of three player reactions to the [[spoiler:white phosphorous incident]], above. The third of these most closely mirrors Walker's own reaction to the event. In this case, the player realizes that it was a ButThouMust scenario and becomes just as angry about it as the characters are, and desperately seeks to shift the blame onto the developers. Lead writer Walt Williams, as quoted on the main page:

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** The development team were aiming for one of three player reactions to the [[spoiler:white phosphorous phosphorus incident]], above. The third of these most closely mirrors Walker's own reaction to the event. In this case, the player realizes that it was a ButThouMust scenario and becomes just as angry about it as the characters are, and desperately seeks to shift the blame onto the developers. Lead writer Walt Williams, as quoted on the main page:



* Lugo is justifiably distraught at the use of white phosphorous accidentally killing 47 innocents, screaming "He turned us into fucking killers!" But wait…what did he refer to himself as when they first arrived in Dubai? [[BadassBoast "A hardened killing machine"]]. Hmm…

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* Lugo is justifiably distraught at the use of white phosphorous phosphorus accidentally killing 47 innocents, screaming "He turned us into fucking killers!" But wait…what did he refer to himself as when they first arrived in Dubai? [[BadassBoast "A hardened killing machine"]]. Hmm…



* The White Phosphorous is growing to be a bit of a BaseBreaker: Either it was a case of gloriously [[NightmareFuel and vividly]] deconstructing what so many FPS's go through easily or the incident was a nasty case of CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption. But if the above fridges are taken seriously, the latter criticism could be irrelevant; [[spoiler:Even if Konrad was right about the majority of the story's events being in Walker's head, the player still had to go through with them anyways]]. The game wasn't forcing us to do anything, it was Walker's mind telling himself IDidWhatIHadToDo!

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* The White Phosphorous Phosphorus is growing to be a bit of a BaseBreaker: Either it was a case of gloriously [[NightmareFuel and vividly]] deconstructing what so many FPS's go through easily or the incident was a nasty case of CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption. But if the above fridges are taken seriously, the latter criticism could be irrelevant; [[spoiler:Even if Konrad was right about the majority of the story's events being in Walker's head, the player still had to go through with them anyways]]. The game wasn't forcing us to do anything, it was Walker's mind telling himself IDidWhatIHadToDo!



* Captain Walker, First Lieutenant Adams, and Sergeant Lugo make up your squad. It's been pointed out that a captain would not be leading this team, nor would a sergeant be present. However, on November 16, 2005, BBC News reported that an article had been published in the March–April 2005 issue of Field Artillery (a U.S. Army magazine), written by a captain, a first lieutenant, and a sergeant. The subject of this article? The use of white phosphorous in Iraqi battles for screening breeches and as a potent psychological weapon. ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Fallujah#Use_of_white_phosphorus Source]])

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* Captain Walker, First Lieutenant Adams, and Sergeant Lugo make up your squad. It's been pointed out that a captain would not be leading this team, nor would a sergeant be present. However, on November 16, 2005, BBC News reported that an article had been published in the March–April 2005 issue of Field Artillery (a U.S. Army magazine), written by a captain, a first lieutenant, and a sergeant. The subject of this article? The use of white phosphorous phosphorus in Iraqi battles for screening breeches and as a potent psychological weapon. ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Fallujah#Use_of_white_phosphorus Source]])
25th Feb '16 5:47:51 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. This seems like a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation...[[spoiler: but it isn't. Konrad's rant about Walker acting like a typical action hero makes sense when you realise that the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for many action movie heroes. Whenever he wields it, it's an indication that he's slowly going mad and becoming less and less of the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]

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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as his new sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. Lugo and Adam also produce a Deagle from nowhere in certain chapters. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. This seems like a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation...Now, consider [[spoiler: but it isn't. Konrad's rant about that Walker acting like thinks he's a typical fantasy action hero makes sense when you realise that hero, and the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for many action movie heroes. Whenever he wields it, it's an indication Yep, that's right-he and his comrades are deluding themselves into thinking that he's slowly going mad they're 1980s badasses and becoming less and less of not the disciplined soldier he soldiers they used to be.]]
25th Feb '16 5:45:49 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If you happen to lose all your weapons, you will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, as your new sidearm. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. This seems like a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation...[[spoiler: but it isn't. Konrad's rant about Walker acting like a typical action hero makes sense when you realise that the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for many action movie heroes. Whenever he wields it, it's an indication that he's slowly going mad and becoming less and less of the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]

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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If you happen to lose all your weapons, you two levels, Walker will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, seemingly as your his new sidearm.sidearm, with no explanation where he got it from. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. This seems like a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation...[[spoiler: but it isn't. Konrad's rant about Walker acting like a typical action hero makes sense when you realise that the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for many action movie heroes. Whenever he wields it, it's an indication that he's slowly going mad and becoming less and less of the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]
25th Feb '16 5:43:32 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Some more excellent foreshadowing: If you happen to lose all your weapons, you will occasionally start with a Desert Eagle, as your new sidearm. However, Walker continues wielding a Beretta M9 as his sidearm in some cutscenes, in the same holster where the Deagle was supposed to be. This seems like a case of GameplayAndStorySegregation...[[spoiler: but it isn't. Konrad's rant about Walker acting like a typical action hero makes sense when you realise that the Deagle is ''the'' gun of choice for many action movie heroes. Whenever he wields it, it's an indication that he's slowly going mad and becoming less and less of the disciplined soldier he used to be.]]
1st Jan '16 12:28:46 AM Trogdor
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* Near the end of the game, [[spoiler:Konrad]] states that there were over five thousand people alive in Dubai the day before you arrived; at the time of the game's release, there were over two MILLION people alive in Dubai.
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