History Fridge / RiseOfTheGuardians

24th Apr '18 9:24:36 AM Keniko
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** Actually the books mention that Toothiana and Bunnymund are both from a now extinct race of immortals (Pookas and Sisters of Flight respectively). And Nicholas (North), among others, was granted immortality by the Man In the Moon. Children's belief only amplifies their powers and losing it removes those advanced powers. Toothiana's comment "We were all someone before we were chosen" refers to the fact that North was a Bandit King, Bunnymund was a mythological Pooka who traveled the galaxy, and specialised in making delicious chocolates—and battling evil. Toothiana collected teeth ''before'' she was the Tooth Fairy because of her parents, from them she learnt that teeth held ''all'' the memories of one's life and she decided to keep children teeth in order to be able to protect their kindness and innocence and to be able to remind them of it when needed, in exchange she left children gifts for helping her (Putting teeth under pillows).

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** Actually the books mention that Bunnymund and Toothiana and Bunnymund are both from a now extinct race of immortals (Pookas and Sisters of Flight respectively). And Nicholas (North), among others, was granted immortality by the Man In the Moon. Children's belief only amplifies their powers and losing it removes those advanced powers. Toothiana's comment "We were all someone before we were chosen" refers to the fact that North was a Bandit King, Bunnymund was a mythological Pooka who traveled the galaxy, and specialised in making delicious chocolates—and battling evil. Toothiana collected teeth ''before'' she was the Tooth Fairy because of her parents, from them she learnt that teeth held ''all'' the memories of one's life and she decided to keep children teeth in order to be able to protect their kindness and innocence and to be able to remind them of it when needed, in exchange she left children gifts for helping her (Putting teeth under pillows).
4th Apr '18 3:16:24 AM CthonisPrincess
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** Actually Jack Frost's appearance is based off Nightlight from the original book series, mainly because [[spoiler: he ''is'' an older Nightlight.]]



*** Not sleep, ''dreams''. ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet'', anyone?



*** And the man in the moon could always find more guardians, as dark as it sounds.
* Anyone who has read the books knows that Pitch's main Mooks in the series are the fearlings, which are notably absent from the movie, using the Nightmares instead. This is all well and good, at least until Pitch [[spoiler:tries to attack Jamie, the last Believer. When he cannot stop Jamie from believing, he tells the Guardians that "There are other ways to snuff out the light". At the end as well, Pitch attacks Jamie, but fails due to being intangible; in both instances it seems that Pitch intends to turn Jamie into a fearling, just as he has turned other children in the past, and intended to do to Tsar Lunar (Man in the Moon) and Katherine (Mother Goose).]]

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*** ** Actually the books mention that Toothiana and Bunnymund are both from a now extinct race of immortals (Pookas and Sisters of Flight respectively). And Nicholas (North), among others, was granted immortality by the man in Man In the moon could always find more guardians, as dark as Moon. Children's belief only amplifies their powers and losing it sounds.
removes those advanced powers. Toothiana's comment "We were all someone before we were chosen" refers to the fact that North was a Bandit King, Bunnymund was a mythological Pooka who traveled the galaxy, and specialised in making delicious chocolates—and battling evil. Toothiana collected teeth ''before'' she was the Tooth Fairy because of her parents, from them she learnt that teeth held ''all'' the memories of one's life and she decided to keep children teeth in order to be able to protect their kindness and innocence and to be able to remind them of it when needed, in exchange she left children gifts for helping her (Putting teeth under pillows).
* Anyone who has read the books knows that Pitch's main Mooks in the series are the fearlings, which are notably absent from the movie, using the Nightmares instead. This is all well and good, at least until Pitch [[spoiler:tries to attack Jamie, the last Believer. When he cannot stop Jamie from believing, he tells the Guardians that "There are other ways to snuff out the light". At the end as well, Pitch attacks Jamie, but fails due to being intangible; in both instances it seems that Pitch intends to turn Jamie into a fearling, just as he has turned other children in the past, and intended to do to Tsar Lunar (Man in the Moon) and Moon), Katherine (Mother Goose).Goose) and Nightlight (Jack Frost).]]



*** WordOfGod mentions that the books and movie do share a universe (The comics however don't), and Jack Frost lost his memories for the same reason [[spoiler: he did when he was Nightlight: so he was protected from the sorrow of his memories or remember anything that had hurt him in the past]].



* It seems almost kind that Jack lost his memories - it would have been horrible for him to see [[spoiler: his friends and family - everyone he ever knew - age and die, while he watched but was unable to communicate]].

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* It seems almost kind ** The books mention that Jack lost his memories - it would have been horrible for him the 'fairies' are actually extensions of Toothiana (she has the power to see [[spoiler: his friends and family - everyone he ever knew - age and die, while he watched split herself into smaller copies), but was unable to communicate]].she has a mental connections with all of them. In other words, she can sense their panic.



** Losing your teeth does not remove memories, though they can be used to remember things that you have forgotten. The little girl is likely remembering something from her childhood that she had forgotten that was related to the Guardians, a chance encounter perhaps.



** That [[FridgeHorror rather disturbingly]] implies that, now that he's a Guardian, if children stop believing in Jack again he will turn into a drowned-and-frozen corpse.
*** No, it just implies that Jack will turn back into a normal boy. If they're going to turn into what they were in their past life, then it doesn't involve their death. So, to me, North would turn back into a crippled old man, Tooth was a very eccentric dentist (or just a really eccentric person), and Pitch was an extremely creepy person. I'm not sure about the Sandman, though...
*** Before becoming Guardians North was a Cossack bandit; Tooth was the last of a WingedHumanoid race called the Sisters of Flight; Bunnymund was the last of the pookas, an alien brotherhood of warriors (think sort of JustForFun/TimeLord rabbit); Sandy was the pilot of a crash-landed Wishing Star; and Pitch was General Kozmotis Pitchiner, greatest hero of the Golden Age. It's all in the books.
*** Even if they just turn back to what they were before they were chosen, judging from what we see in the flashback, several hours at least pass between Jack falling into the pond and being chosen by Manny. In other words, ''by the time he was chosen he was already dead.''

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** That [[FridgeHorror rather disturbingly]] implies that, now that he's a Guardian, if children stop believing in Jack again he will turn into a drowned-and-frozen corpse.
*** No, it just implies that Jack will turn back into a normal boy. If they're going to turn into what they were in their past life, then it doesn't involve their death. So, to me, North would turn back into a crippled old man, Tooth was a very eccentric dentist (or just a really eccentric person), and Pitch was an extremely creepy person. I'm not sure about the Sandman, though...
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Before becoming Guardians North was a Cossack bandit; Tooth was the last of a WingedHumanoid race called the Sisters of Flight; Bunnymund was the last of the pookas, an alien brotherhood of warriors (think sort of JustForFun/TimeLord rabbit); Sandy was the pilot of a crash-landed Wishing Star; and Pitch was General Kozmotis Pitchiner, greatest hero of the Golden Age. It's all in the books.
*** Even if they just turn back to what they were before they were chosen, judging from what we see in the flashback, several hours at least pass between Jack falling into the pond and being chosen by Manny. In other words, ''by the time he was chosen he was already dead.''
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* Jack's main place of dwelling seems to be [[spoiler: his old hometown]]. This would imply that Jack was around ''[[spoiler: as his family was alive]]'' and simply couldn't remember them, losing his chance to give them any kind of closure.

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* Jack's main place of dwelling seems to be [[spoiler: his old hometown]]. This would imply **** Word Of God mentions that Jack was around ''[[spoiler: as his family was alive]]'' and simply couldn't remember them, losing his chance to give them any kind the movie IS a continuation of closure.the books.



*** WordOfGod is that they (The Nightmares) are imprisoning him again.



* In some Mythology The Boogieman is called "The Bagman", who would kidnap misbehaving children...What did Pitch keep in those cages before the tooth faires?



** Alternate theory: Jack lost some teeth when he fell underwater. The tooth fairies are ''exceptionally'' dedicated.
** Maybe Jack still had a baby tooth when he died, one that just hadn't fallen out yet.
** This is pretty plausible. Not everyone loses all their baby teeth in early childhood; some people (including this troper) even keep some into adulthood.

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** Alternate theory: Jack lost some WordOfGod mentions that the teeth when he fell underwater. The tooth fairies are ''exceptionally'' dedicated.
** Maybe Jack still had a baby tooth when he died, one that just hadn't fallen out yet.
** This is pretty plausible. Not everyone loses all their baby teeth in early childhood; some people (including this troper) even keep some into adulthood.
(Even after they've been lost) hold the '''all'' the memories of an individual.



** The reason he speaks with an Australian accent is because, according to the books and the author, Australia is his favorite continent. Which he also created. Because he can.

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** The '''The reason he speaks with an Australian accent is because, according to the books and the author, Australia is his favorite continent. Which he also created. Because he can.'''
18th Mar '18 6:41:53 PM nombretomado
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*** Before becoming Guardians North was a Cossack bandit; Tooth was the last of a WingedHumanoid race called the Sisters of Flight; Bunnymund was the last of the pookas, an alien brotherhood of warriors (think sort of TimeLord rabbit); Sandy was the pilot of a crash-landed Wishing Star; and Pitch was General Kozmotis Pitchiner, greatest hero of the Golden Age. It's all in the books.

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*** Before becoming Guardians North was a Cossack bandit; Tooth was the last of a WingedHumanoid race called the Sisters of Flight; Bunnymund was the last of the pookas, an alien brotherhood of warriors (think sort of TimeLord JustForFun/TimeLord rabbit); Sandy was the pilot of a crash-landed Wishing Star; and Pitch was General Kozmotis Pitchiner, greatest hero of the Golden Age. It's all in the books.
1st Jan '18 4:21:47 PM GoodOldBlue
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** Or the blizzard was in 1968 and that is was angered Bunny so much, Jack created a random blizzard in the middle of what should have been a beautiful spring day.



** Which would mean 3 or more weeks of Jack Frost...and we all know how Bunny feels about Jack at first.

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** Which would mean 3 6 or more weeks of Jack Frost...and we all know how Bunny feels about Jack at first.first.
** Also the date of Easter changes every year with the earliest being in about mid March, six more weeks of winter from February 2nd would mean plenty of chances for late snow storms or just cold weather to ruin his egg hunts (and he can't even get mad at Jack for it since it is still winter)
6th Dec '17 6:00:14 PM loracarol
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** This is a little WMG-y, but it's worth noting that, in the script,
[[spoiler:Jack's sister is explicitly described as resembling Sophie.]]

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** This is a little WMG-y, but it's worth noting that, in the script,
script, [[spoiler:Jack's sister is explicitly described as resembling Sophie.]]
6th Dec '17 5:58:56 PM loracarol
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6th Dec '17 5:58:19 PM loracarol
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** This is a little WMG-y, but it's worth noting that, in the script,[[spoiler: Jack's sister is explicitly described as resembling Sophie.]]

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** This is a little WMG-y, but it's worth noting that, in the script,[[spoiler: Jack's script,
[[spoiler:Jack's
sister is explicitly described as resembling Sophie.]]
12th Oct '17 8:35:41 PM lightsidesoul
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** If you look at Tooths expression when she pulls the mouse out from under the pillow, she was surprised giving two possibilities: 1, she thought that pitch got ALL the tooth gatherers, not just the fairies, so she didnt think ANYONE was gathering teeth, thus she did not expect to find others. 2: she was panicking and forgot there were other gatherers.
16th Sep '17 1:39:16 PM nombretomado
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* Bunnymund says Easter is about new beginnings. This trooper isn't a religious person, but even I know about the story of [[JesusChrist what happened on]] [[BackFromTheDead the first Easter]].

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* Bunnymund says Easter is about new beginnings. This trooper isn't a religious person, but even I know about the story of [[JesusChrist [[UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} what happened on]] [[BackFromTheDead the first Easter]].
11th Dec '16 3:34:33 PM CornettoLass
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** This is pretty plausible. Not everyone loses all their baby teeth in early childhood; some people (including this troper) even keep some into adulthood.
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