History Fridge / ReturnToOz

25th Sep '15 1:18:47 AM gasolinemonk
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*** He appears to be the same old Jack regardless of head, retaining the same personality and memories. Of course, there's an incident in the books where Jack attributes being cleverer than usual to the current pumpkin having smarter seeds.

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*** He appears to be the same old Jack regardless of head, retaining the same personality and memories. Of course, there's an incident in the books where Jack attributes being cleverer than usual to the current pumpkin having smarter seeds. Plus, swappable heads seem to be a possibility in Oz; Mombi certainly retains the same personality no matter which head she's wearing. Her victim's personalities don't manifest at all.
26th Jun '15 2:05:53 PM fruitstripegum
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* How the ''heck'' did Bilina get to Oz, anyway?

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* How the ''heck'' did Bilina Billina get to Oz, anyway?
26th Jun '15 2:03:07 PM fruitstripegum
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** Alternately Ozma is limited by the enchantment that keeps her trapped in the mirror. She can use her magic to get to Kansas but only for short periods of time. So she doesn't jump into the river with Dorothy because she knows she'll get poofed back to Oz anyway.

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** Alternately Ozma is limited by the enchantment that keeps her trapped in the mirror. She can use her magic to get to Kansas but only for short periods of time. So she doesn't jump into the river with Dorothy because she knows she'll get poofed back to Oz anyway.anyway.
* How the ''heck'' did Bilina get to Oz, anyway?
10th Apr '15 12:55:13 PM fearlessnikki
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** And it doesn't mean he'd lose all his powers. In the Oz universe, a magic user is powerful because of their ''knowledge''. So he'd still have all his knowledge of magic and not be vulnerable to any of the weaknesses he normally has.



* All mirrors may serve as a gateway into Oz. Mombi thought she had trapped Ozma within a mirror but instead pushed her into Dorothy's Kansas. Upon arriving, Ozma would have been seen as mentally ill and placed into the hospital. Once Dorothy arrived, Ozma escaped with her and ran directly to the river, the surface of which could also be used as a mirror (which is how Dorothy and Billina arrived in Oz). When Dorothy disposed of the Nome King and Mombi, she then drew Ozma through the "mirror" of the river and back into Oz. Thus Ozma would disappear entirely from our world and give the impression that she had drown. The only real question is why she didn't just jump in the river and return to Oz ''with'' Dorothy.

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* All mirrors may serve as a gateway into Oz. Mombi thought she had trapped Ozma within a mirror but instead pushed her into Dorothy's Kansas. Upon arriving, Ozma would have been seen as mentally ill and placed into the hospital. Once Dorothy arrived, Ozma escaped with her and ran directly to the river, the surface of which could also be used as a mirror (which is how Dorothy and Billina arrived in Oz). When Dorothy disposed of the Nome King and Mombi, she then drew Ozma through the "mirror" of the river and back into Oz. Thus Ozma would disappear entirely from our world and give the impression that she had drown. The only real question is why she didn't just jump in the river and return to Oz ''with'' Dorothy.Dorothy.
** Well Ozma was still imprisoned in the mirror by Mombi. It's like her dungeon has two doors - one to Oz and the other to Kansas. The door to Oz is locked, so she can travel through the mirrors to Kansas - but when she goes back, she's still blocked by Mombi's spell. It's only until after Mombi is defeated and her powers stripped, that Ozma can leave the mirror.
** Alternately Ozma is limited by the enchantment that keeps her trapped in the mirror. She can use her magic to get to Kansas but only for short periods of time. So she doesn't jump into the river with Dorothy because she knows she'll get poofed back to Oz anyway.
13th Jan '15 2:11:46 PM Bergamot
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** Murch took delight in playing around with the "Oz is a dream reflection of Dorothy's psyche" explanation from the MGM film. In a dream locations are as close or as far as the dream's own internal illogical logic dictates.

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** Murch took delight in playing around with the "Oz is a dream reflection of Dorothy's psyche" explanation from the MGM film. In a dream locations are as close or as far as the dream's own internal illogical logic dictates.dictates.
* All mirrors may serve as a gateway into Oz. Mombi thought she had trapped Ozma within a mirror but instead pushed her into Dorothy's Kansas. Upon arriving, Ozma would have been seen as mentally ill and placed into the hospital. Once Dorothy arrived, Ozma escaped with her and ran directly to the river, the surface of which could also be used as a mirror (which is how Dorothy and Billina arrived in Oz). When Dorothy disposed of the Nome King and Mombi, she then drew Ozma through the "mirror" of the river and back into Oz. Thus Ozma would disappear entirely from our world and give the impression that she had drown. The only real question is why she didn't just jump in the river and return to Oz ''with'' Dorothy.
13th Jan '15 1:55:43 PM Bergamot
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*** He appears to be the same old Jack regardless of head, retaining the same personality and memories. Of course, there's an incident in the books where Jack attributes being cleverer than usual to the current pumpkin having smarter seeds.
21st Oct '14 3:31:11 PM PurrElise
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** The head-nurse being taken away by the police at the end of the movie would suggest they found the patients because why would she have been arrested otherwise? Their physical and mental states, however, are still another matter.
3rd Sep '14 3:55:39 PM mlsmithca
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* There's a popular fan theory that ''Film/WizardOfOz'' is a metaphor for coming out as homosexual. Given this, the most logical explanation for this movie is that it's a metaphor for being out in a homophobic society... which they try to cure... [[NightmareFuel with shock therapy]]. - Tropers/{{Kiereth}}

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* There's a popular fan theory that ''Film/WizardOfOz'' is a metaphor for coming out as homosexual. Given this, the most logical explanation for this movie is that it's a metaphor for being out in a homophobic society... which they try to cure... [[NightmareFuel with shock therapy]]. - Tropers/{{Kiereth}}
therapy]].
3rd Sep '14 3:55:00 PM mlsmithca
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* There's a popular fan theory that ''Film/WizardOfOz'' is a metaphor for coming out as homosexual. Given this, the most logical explanation for this movie is that it's a metaphor for being out in a homophobic society... which they try to cure... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel with shock therapy]]. - Tropers/{{Kiereth}}

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* There's a popular fan theory that ''Film/WizardOfOz'' is a metaphor for coming out as homosexual. Given this, the most logical explanation for this movie is that it's a metaphor for being out in a homophobic society... which they try to cure... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel with shock therapy]]. - Tropers/{{Kiereth}}
3rd Sep '14 5:04:44 AM Kiereth
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* There's a popular fan theory that ''Film/WizardOfOz'' is a metaphor for coming out as homosexual. Given this, the most logical explanation for this movie is that it's a metaphor for being out in a homophobic society... which they try to cure... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel with shock therapy]]. - Tropers/{{Kiereth}}
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