History Fridge / Pumaman

3rd May '18 4:11:18 AM despoa
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* Martin, in a scene cut from the [=MST3K=] version, tells Tony that the four Americans who were tossed out of windows were sons of doctors whose parents were killed in plane crashes. Okay, so...
** 1. UsefulNotes/{{London}} is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) that he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.
** 2. How is it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was?
*** Was it not Vadinho who was throwing people out the windows? I always thought it was.
*** Nah. Apparently Vadinho already knew he had the right guy, and just pitched Tony out the window to make a point that he was the Pumaman.
* Why would the gods, who supposedly value free will so highly, give mankind a mask that allows one person to control another? And for the matter, why isn't the Pumaman, the direct descendant of the gods, immune to the effects of the mask?
* So if Kobras already controls the people in power and the police, why would he need his henchman to make Pumaman's "death" look like suicide? Anybody who might investigate it is already in Kobras' garish, patent-leather pocket anyway.

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[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* Martin, in a scene cut from the [=MST3K=] version, tells Tony that the four Americans who were tossed out of windows were sons of doctors whose parents were killed in plane crashes. Okay, so...
** 1. UsefulNotes/{{London}} is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) that he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.
** 2. How is it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was?
*** Was it not Vadinho who was throwing people out the windows? I always thought it was.
*** Nah. Apparently Vadinho already knew he had the right guy, and just pitched Tony out the window to make a point that he was the Pumaman.
* Why would the gods, who supposedly value free will so highly, give mankind a mask that allows one person to control another? And for the matter, why isn't the Pumaman, the direct descendant of the gods, immune to the effects of the mask?
* So if Kobras already controls the people in power and the police, why would he need his henchman to make Pumaman's "death" look like suicide? Anybody who might investigate it is already in Kobras' garish, patent-leather pocket anyway.

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15th Mar '18 6:07:07 PM Scooter007
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* Tony's reluctance to be the Puma Man early in the film could be seen as a {{Deconstruction}} of the standard "wish fulfillment" SuperHero origin story -- i.e. the {{muggle}} who gains super powers and is eager to start playing around with them (as seen in ''Film/SpiderMan''). Certainly, any normal person would react badly to the news that he's now a murder target because of some super-trait he didn't even know he had. The problem is that Tony's "reluctance" is demonstrated through whiny self-pity which does nothing to endear him to the audience.
25th Nov '17 11:46:36 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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*** Nah. Apparently Vadinho already knew he had the right guy, and just pitched Tony out the window to make a point that he was the Pumaman.


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* So if Kobras already controls the people in power and the police, why would he need his henchman to make Pumaman's "death" look like suicide? Anybody who might investigate it is already in Kobras' garish, patent-leather pocket anyway.
9th Oct '17 1:44:21 PM Larkmarn
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*** Was it not Vadinho who was throwing people out the windows? I always thought it was.
24th Nov '16 9:27:49 AM MarkLungo
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** 1. London is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) that he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.

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** 1. London UsefulNotes/{{London}} is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) that he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.



*** The movie itself seems confused whether he's jumping or flying. The movie repeatedly ''calls'' it "jumping", but he's explicitly shown hovering several times, and once casually ''walking in mid-air''. Maybe he just has infinite {{Double Jump}}s.

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*** The movie itself seems confused whether he's jumping or flying. The movie repeatedly ''calls'' it "jumping", but he's explicitly shown hovering several times, and once casually ''walking in mid-air''. Maybe he just has infinite {{Double Jump}}s.Jump}}s.
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20th Oct '16 4:30:52 AM DarkStorm
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** Actually he supposedly was jumping rather than flying. Its just the effects are... [[SpecialEffectFailure not up to par.]]

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** Actually he supposedly was jumping rather than flying. Its just the effects are... [[SpecialEffectFailure not up to par.]]]]
*** The movie itself seems confused whether he's jumping or flying. The movie repeatedly ''calls'' it "jumping", but he's explicitly shown hovering several times, and once casually ''walking in mid-air''. Maybe he just has infinite {{Double Jump}}s.
14th Jul '15 6:28:46 PM Kennisaurus
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* Puma Man's flight pose looks awkward because he's trying (not very well, admittedly) to emulate a four-legged running/leaping pose, like an actual puma! This is supported by the line one mook gives when explaining to his boss how Tony escaped: "That wan't a man, that was a cat jumping!" It seems if this was meant to be, however, then [[InASingleBound super jumping]] would have been a better super power for Puma Man than flight.

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* Puma Man's flight pose looks awkward because he's trying (not very well, admittedly) to emulate a four-legged running/leaping pose, like an actual puma! This is supported by the line one mook gives when explaining to his boss how Tony escaped: "That wan't a man, that was a cat jumping!" It seems if this was meant to be, however, then [[InASingleBound super jumping]] would have been a better super power for Puma Man than flight.flight.
** Actually he supposedly was jumping rather than flying. Its just the effects are... [[SpecialEffectFailure not up to par.]]
1st Sep '14 10:48:09 PM wrm5
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** 1. London is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.
** 2. How is it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was.

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** 1. London is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and Kobras said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) that he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.
** 2. How is it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was.was?
1st Sep '14 10:46:18 PM wrm5
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** 1. London is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that description, much less six or more. (Kobras killed four, Tony makes five, and a line from Kobras implies there are even more he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.)

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** 1. London is pretty big, but even so it's unlikely there are even two people living there who fit that very specific description, much less six or more. (Kobras but the movie expects us to believe there are at least seven! Kobras killed four, Tony himself makes five, and a line from Kobras implies there are even said he hoped Tony was the Pumaman "if only for the sake of the others" implying that he knew of at least two more (since "others" is plural) he planned to kill if Tony wasn't the right one.)
1st Sep '14 10:41:53 PM wrm5
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** 2. Howis it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was.

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** 2. Howis How is it possible that Kobras knew such specific information as where Tony lived, what nationality he was, what his father's profession was and how the man died... and yet they didn't just know who Tony was.
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