History Fridge / Pokemon

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** One could suggest the same thing for Squirtle and it's [[EleventhHourSuperpower Eleventh Hour Hydro Pump.]]

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** One could suggest the same thing for Squirtle and it's its [[EleventhHourSuperpower Eleventh Hour Hydro Pump.]]



* Looking at the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iris%27s_Dragonite Dragonite]] that Iris caught near the end of season 15. I noticed that it doesn't know it's species [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hyper_Beam_(move) ultimate attack]], and at first I was confused as to why. Then I discovered that it's species doesn't learn that attack until level 75 in [[Videogame/PokemonBlackandWhite the Unova games]]. So that got me to thinking, what if the reason it hasn't learned it's ultimate attack is because it just evolved from Dragonair. That also explains why it hasn't learned [[UnstoppableRage Outrage]] either.

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* Looking at the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iris%27s_Dragonite Dragonite]] that Iris caught near the end of season 15. I noticed that it doesn't know it's its species [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hyper_Beam_(move) ultimate attack]], and at first I was confused as to why. Then I discovered that it's its species doesn't learn that attack until level 75 in [[Videogame/PokemonBlackandWhite the Unova games]]. So that got me to thinking, what if the reason it hasn't learned it's its ultimate attack is because it just evolved from Dragonair. Dragonair? That also explains why it hasn't learned [[UnstoppableRage Outrage]] either.



* Ampharos's shiny form is this. Regular Ampharos is primarily yellow, with a red orb on its tail that emits light and the Pokemon itself is often used in lighthouses to guide ships. Shiny Ampharos is pink, with a blue orb on it's tail. Lighthouses sometimes alternate using red and white (or blue) light to guide ships; and as for the body color, there's an old rhyme that goes "Pink in the morning, sailor's warning; pink at night, sailor's delight".

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* Ampharos's shiny form is this. Regular Ampharos is primarily yellow, with a red orb on its tail that emits light and the Pokemon itself is often used in lighthouses to guide ships. Shiny Ampharos is pink, with a blue orb on it's its tail. Lighthouses sometimes alternate using red and white (or blue) light to guide ships; and as for the body color, there's an old rhyme that goes "Pink in the morning, sailor's warning; pink at night, sailor's delight".



* Porygon is called the first "artifical Pokémon" and it consists completely of computer code. It's various Pokédex entries say "A man-made Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. It is capable of moving freely in cyberspace", "An artificial Pokémon created due to extensive research, it can perform only what is in its program", or "It is a man made Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment". Since it can do whatever it is programmed (taught moves and sprite animation), tested in different environments (meaning different games), and moving through cyberspace (can refer to online trading/battling), this means the Porygon, like all other mons in the video game, is computer code that forms the Pokémon. Meaning, that Porygon ''technically is a real life Pokémon''!

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* Porygon is called the first "artifical Pokémon" and it consists completely of computer code. It's Its various Pokédex entries say "A man-made Pokémon that consists entirely of programming code. It is capable of moving freely in cyberspace", "An artificial Pokémon created due to extensive research, it can perform only what is in its program", or "It is a man made Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment". Since it can do whatever it is programmed (taught moves and sprite animation), tested in different environments (meaning different games), and moving through cyberspace (can refer to online trading/battling), this means the Porygon, like all other mons in the video game, is computer code that forms the Pokémon. Meaning, that Porygon ''technically is a real life Pokémon''!



* Why does the Karrablast family appear between the Goomy & Shelmet families in the Kalos Pokedex? Well it's because if you reverse the order, so that's it's Shelmet> Karrablast> Sliggoo, then it's a reference to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escargot Escargot]]. A dish that's popular in France, which Kalos is based off of. As Shelmet represents the snail before it's cooked. Karrablast represents the objects used to remove the snail from it's shell (after it's put back in the shell after cooking). While Sliggoo represents the Snail's soft insides after being removed from the shell (after Cooking). This also explains several other things

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* Why does the Karrablast family appear between the Goomy & Shelmet families in the Kalos Pokedex? Well it's because if you reverse the order, so that's it's Shelmet> Karrablast> Sliggoo, then it's a reference to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escargot Escargot]]. A dish that's popular in France, which Kalos is based off of. As Shelmet represents the snail before it's cooked. Karrablast represents the objects used to remove the snail from it's its shell (after it's put back in the shell after cooking). While Sliggoo represents the Snail's soft insides after being removed from the shell (after Cooking). This also explains several other things



*** So if a hypothetical R/S/E remake would remake the entire Gen III then it would need to combine Emerald with FR/LG, with B2/W2 graphics. The difficulty behind having to combine the Hoenn and Kanto storylines together? Probably not that much of a problem if you just combine Hoenn and the SEVII ISLANDS together (the Sevii Islands being the exclusive addition to FR/LG as R/G/B/Y remakes). And seeing as Emerald actually had Naval Island and Birth Island anyway, it won't be asking much to give it's remake the rest of the islands. A problem may arise with the Sevii Island quest being Red's journey before the Elite Four rematch on Kanto. But then, past remakes have added new content, so maybe the protagonist of R/S/E can intervene with Red's Sevii Island quest, possibly even challenge Red, and even get a chance at tackling Kanto's Elite Four under Gen V mechanics as an 'after Hoenn Elite Four' quest? And given that the rival and protagonist of R/S/E can both be the same character (whatever gender you choose for the player, the rival will be the opposite), it could be that the Kanto protagonist character that the Gen III player sees in the Sevii islands MATCHES it's own gender.

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*** So if a hypothetical R/S/E remake would remake the entire Gen III then it would need to combine Emerald with FR/LG, with B2/W2 graphics. The difficulty behind having to combine the Hoenn and Kanto storylines together? Probably not that much of a problem if you just combine Hoenn and the SEVII ISLANDS together (the Sevii Islands being the exclusive addition to FR/LG as R/G/B/Y remakes). And seeing as Emerald actually had Naval Island and Birth Island anyway, it won't be asking much to give it's its remake the rest of the islands. A problem may arise with the Sevii Island quest being Red's journey before the Elite Four rematch on Kanto. But then, past remakes have added new content, so maybe the protagonist of R/S/E can intervene with Red's Sevii Island quest, possibly even challenge Red, and even get a chance at tackling Kanto's Elite Four under Gen V mechanics as an 'after Hoenn Elite Four' quest? And given that the rival and protagonist of R/S/E can both be the same character (whatever gender you choose for the player, the rival will be the opposite), it could be that the Kanto protagonist character that the Gen III player sees in the Sevii islands MATCHES it's its own gender.



* Tropers/TommyX: I knew for a while that Route 4 and Relic Castle was supposed to be based off Egypt. When I first got to the Relic Castle, I wondered why Sandile were there. It's final form's name, Krookodile, is a corruption of "crook" and crocodile. The Sandile and Krokorok in the Relic Castle are supposed to be grave robbers.

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* Tropers/TommyX: I knew for a while that Route 4 and Relic Castle was supposed to be based off Egypt. When I first got to the Relic Castle, I wondered why Sandile were there. It's Its final form's name, Krookodile, is a corruption of "crook" and crocodile. The Sandile and Krokorok in the Relic Castle are supposed to be grave robbers.



* Gengar's shape seemed familiar, didn't it? It's Clefable's shadow -- or it's corrupted, malevolent ghost!
* At first, Probopass looks silly. However, this is because it's a restored Moai head, complete with dorky red hat and bulging eyes. As for the mustache? It's a magnetic Pokémon, and it's attracted iron filings.

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* Gengar's shape seemed familiar, didn't it? It's Clefable's shadow -- or it's its corrupted, malevolent ghost!
* At first, Probopass looks silly. However, this is because it's a restored Moai head, complete with dorky red hat and bulging eyes. As for the mustache? It's a magnetic Pokémon, and it's its attracted iron filings.



*** Though it could just mean that the skulls are hierlooms passed on from generations. "Getting a skull from it's mother" means more along the lines of "given a helmet from it's parents". Or, to fit with the born with it thing, it might just mean that the skull-like helmet passes from the female parent, a GENETIC gain instead of taking your dead mommy's head.

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*** Though it could just mean that the skulls are hierlooms passed on from generations. "Getting a skull from it's its mother" means more along the lines of "given a helmet from it's its parents". Or, to fit with the born with it thing, it might just mean that the skull-like helmet passes from the female parent, a GENETIC gain instead of taking your dead mommy's head.



** We all know that his Hydreigon is at least 10 levels lower than required to evolve. Zweilous evolves when one of its heads gains dominance over the other. Whose to say he didn't cut off one of it's heads?

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** We all know that his Hydreigon is at least 10 levels lower than required to evolve. Zweilous evolves when one of its heads gains dominance over the other. Whose Who's to say he didn't cut off one of it's its heads?



* Remember the S.S. Anne? The luxury liner that sails the world? As we know, it's never come back (even in G/S/C and it's remakes, where it is replaced by another ship). In R/S/E, you come across the Abandoned Ship, which is, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin abandoned]]. Here's my idea. The Abandoned Ship is the S.S. Anne. It was on it's way to Hoenn when it crashed. It began to take in water, [[NightmareFuel perhaps some passengers (and unsuspecting Pokemon) drowned]], while others (probably those who had Water-types) made it out alive. - Ahatake5000

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* Remember the S.S. Anne? The luxury liner that sails the world? As we know, it's never come back (even in G/S/C and it's its remakes, where it is replaced by another ship). In R/S/E, you come across the Abandoned Ship, which is, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin abandoned]]. Here's my idea. The Abandoned Ship is the S.S. Anne. It was on it's its way to Hoenn when it crashed. It began to take in water, [[NightmareFuel perhaps some passengers (and unsuspecting Pokemon) drowned]], while others (probably those who had Water-types) made it out alive. - Ahatake5000



* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon absorbs solar radiation into it's body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Nuclear Armageddon or worse.

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* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon absorbs solar radiation into it's its body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Nuclear Armageddon or worse.



* I'm not sure if I read it wrong, but didn't the books in the library in Canalave City say that Pokémon were created (by Arceus) to help humans and that's why we encounter them in the tall grass? I get the helping part when they battle us, since fighting them does level our Pokémon up. And it kind of explains why some Pokémon don't allow us to escape (way too eager to help), but what about the ones that use status effect moves (poisoning, paralysis, sleep, etc.) on our Pokémon? Wouldn't they know that it's painful for the Pokemon and doesn't really help in it's level up?

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* I'm not sure if I read it wrong, but didn't the books in the library in Canalave City say that Pokémon were created (by Arceus) to help humans and that's why we encounter them in the tall grass? I get the helping part when they battle us, since fighting them does level our Pokémon up. And it kind of explains why some Pokémon don't allow us to escape (way too eager to help), but what about the ones that use status effect moves (poisoning, paralysis, sleep, etc.) on our Pokémon? Wouldn't they know that it's painful for the Pokemon and doesn't really help in it's its level up?



** I believe the error is believing they are trying to replace the leader. But if you think about it, they often talk about him/her with a good deal of admiration, some even having a personal debt: they are there to help. They use pokemons of that specific type because they work for the gym leader and he sets the rules for them, while those who (like the player) are trying to earn their badge are not restricted to that, and so can use different types (and since is established the gym are there to actually teach something, is logical that some advice on type advantage is provided, it's a pivotal tattical point that's important to learn).

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** I believe the error is believing they are trying to replace the leader. But if you think about it, they often talk about him/her with a good deal of admiration, some even having a personal debt: they are there to help. They use pokemons of that specific type because they work for the gym leader and he sets the rules for them, while those who (like the player) are trying to earn their badge are not restricted to that, and so can use different types (and since is established the gym are there to actually teach something, is logical that some advice on type advantage is provided, it's a pivotal tattical tactical point that's important to learn).
19th Jun '16 8:45:29 AM Patcher
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* In the first generation, the first seven gym have each at least one trainer showing clear admiration for the gym leader, ou combine it with the tuggishthe last one makes an exception. Of course, this is to keep the last leader's identity a mistery (it was one, back in the days), but if you combine it with the tuggish and power-hungry nature of the trainers there, is also a good clue about his nature.
** Also, it seems quite a happy coincidence that Giovanni comes back to the gym just when you need to fight him, doesn't it? As a matter of fact, he actually comes back ''because'' you need to fight him. You already challenged him (and won) more than once, he would of course he would have gathered some infos about you and found out you were colletting the badges, so instead of waiting for you to come out unexpected once again he decided to where he was sure 'd have met you at his conditions, to deal with you once for all.

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* In the first generation, the first seven gym gyms have each at least one trainer showing clear admiration for the gym leader, ou combine it with but the tuggishthe last one makes an exception. Of course, this is to keep the last leader's identity a mistery mystery (it was one, back in the days), but if you combine it with consider the tuggish thuggish and power-hungry nature of the trainers there, is also a good clue about his nature.
** Also, it seems quite a happy coincidence that Giovanni comes back to the gym just when you need to fight him, doesn't it? As a matter of fact, he actually comes back ''because'' you need to fight him. You already challenged him (and won) more than once, he would would, of course he would course, have gathered some infos info about you and found out you were colletting collecting the badges, so instead of waiting for you to come out unexpected unexpectedly once again again, he decided to where decidwhere he was sure 'd have met to meet you at on his conditions, to deal with you once for all.
17th May '16 7:40:34 PM Kitch
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** Think of the second episode of ''Diamond and Pearl''. James finds his Carnivine in a box of bottle caps. It's been sitting in there for only God knows how long. Likely ''years'' literally in suspended animation. No wonder it's always trying to eat James.
16th May '16 10:07:08 PM Salsh_Loli
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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or [[NaïveEverygirl naive]] [[Wide-EyedIdealist people]] would hold this belief. Hence Fairy being super effective against dark (the type being translated as evil in Japanese). [[BreaktheCutie Until when things go seriously bad for them, and when evil does win... You lose all the childish beliefs and recognized the true horror on the world and society. In short, loss of innocence.]] In other words, Steel represent bloodshed and war while for Poison, it's corruption and impurity. Both are strong against Fairy cause being expose to such negativity is inevitable and no one can avoid being pure for all their life.

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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or [[NaïveEverygirl naive]] [[Wide-EyedIdealist [[WideEyedIdealist naive people]] would hold this belief. Hence Fairy being super effective against dark (the type being translated as evil in Japanese). [[BreaktheCutie Until when things go seriously bad for them, and when evil does win... You lose all the childish beliefs and recognized the true horror on the world and society. In short, loss of innocence.]] In other words, Steel represent bloodshed and war while for Poison, it's corruption and impurity. Both are strong against Fairy cause being expose to such negativity is inevitable and no one can avoid being pure for all their life.
16th May '16 10:05:03 PM Salsh_Loli
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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or shelter people would hold this belief. Hence Fairy being super effective against dark (the type being translated as evil in Japanese). Until when things go seriously bad for them, and when evil does win... You lose all the childish beliefs and recognized the true horror on the world and society. In short, loss of innocence. In other words, Steel represent bloodshed and war while for Poison, it's corruption and impurity. Both are strong against Fairy cause being expose to such negativity is inevitable and no one can avoid being pure for all their life.

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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or shelter people [[NaïveEverygirl naive]] [[Wide-EyedIdealist people]] would hold this belief. Hence Fairy being super effective against dark (the type being translated as evil in Japanese). [[BreaktheCutie Until when things go seriously bad for them, and when evil does win... You lose all the childish beliefs and recognized the true horror on the world and society. In short, loss of innocence. ]] In other words, Steel represent bloodshed and war while for Poison, it's corruption and impurity. Both are strong against Fairy cause being expose to such negativity is inevitable and no one can avoid being pure for all their life.
16th May '16 9:58:45 PM Salsh_Loli
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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. If that is the case, then poison is the opposite as it represent impurity and corruption. Make sense if you think about it. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or shelter people would firmly believe in.[[BreaktheCutie But as you grow up, inevitably you will be expose to such negativity.]] Beside poison, we have steel: war, bloodshed, murder...

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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. If that is the case, then poison is the opposite as it represent impurity and corruption. Make sense if you think about it. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or shelter people would firmly believe in.[[BreaktheCutie But hold this belief. Hence Fairy being super effective against dark (the type being translated as you grow up, inevitably you will be evil in Japanese). Until when things go seriously bad for them, and when evil does win... You lose all the childish beliefs and recognized the true horror on the world and society. In short, loss of innocence. In other words, Steel represent bloodshed and war while for Poison, it's corruption and impurity. Both are strong against Fairy cause being expose to such negativity.]] Beside poison, we have steel: war, bloodshed, murder...negativity is inevitable and no one can avoid being pure for all their life.
16th May '16 9:28:15 PM Salsh_Loli
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** A better explanation: Fairy type often represent innocence and purity. If that is the case, then poison is the opposite as it represent impurity and corruption. Make sense if you think about it. Ideally good always triumph evil in Disney movies or fairy tales; stuff that children or shelter people would firmly believe in.[[BreaktheCutie But as you grow up, inevitably you will be expose to such negativity.]] Beside poison, we have steel: war, bloodshed, murder...
2nd May '16 12:57:08 PM mario0987
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** And let's not forget the first example of this: Farfetch is native to Johto.
** Comically, Eevee a Pokémon that has been around since Gen 1 is native to Kalos by this logic. They appeared as wild Pokémon in Sinnoh and Unova but they did so in someone's backyard and a park implying they were put there by human intervention.
26th Apr '16 6:19:56 AM Upah
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** This actually is the case in the hack Quartz - the Abandoned Ship is explicitly the S.S. Anne. Everyone died but the captain (who gives you Cut in not!Rustboro), and "a boy who left the ship before it set sail"... but was that Red or Blue? Note the singular... in Quartz!verse, did Red or Blue die prematurely?!
19th Apr '16 2:03:30 PM Psi001
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** To punctuate this, in Kalos they sparsely seem to be deprived of the finer things, [[WickedCultured conversing in fancy restaurants and attending high etiquette dance parties]]. Episodes such as the summer camp arc show them having part time jobs, by this point they're so competent at it they get multiple raises in salary.
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