History Fridge / Pocahontas

11th Jul '15 8:24:13 PM JayWells
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** Most Indigenous People thanked plants cut down and animals killed for their service to the tribe, and they used as much as possible as a way to show respect.
6th Mar '15 9:03:15 AM NickFalcon
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** The look on his face when he sees that John is about to be executed is a mixture of shock and outrage, despite wanting to be rid of John and at the head of his men where he didn't need to fake an emotional display on his face.
6th Mar '15 8:59:49 AM NickFalcon
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** Pay attention to the lyrics. Ratcliffe is very smoothly transitioning from each meaning of the word as he moves through the camp, depending on whether he's talking to himself or the settlers.
3rd Aug '14 11:25:57 AM Random888
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* Why must John be torn away from the love of his life and taken on a four-month voyage across the Atlantic in a rickety wooden ship? To be put into the hands of 17th century medicine, which thought disease was caused by humoral imbalances and leeches were the cure to everything.
3rd Aug '14 10:49:09 AM Random888
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** It gets worse once you realize that life for the settlers in Jamestown was awful. Jamestown sat on an island that had been ''abandoned'' by the indigenous population because it was so bad. The hunting was bad, the soil marshy, and there was a shortage of clean drinking water. The settlers arrived too late in the year to plant anything. Many died quickly from disease and starvation; the winter of 1609-1610 was known as "Starving Time" that left only 60 of the original ''500'' settlers alive.
*** The whole situation for the first colonists got as bad as it did because they almost to a man acted greedier than this movie's villain. It took some rather inflexible leadership afterwards to keep Jamestown fron becoming a historical footnote.

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** It gets worse once you realize that life for the settlers in Jamestown was awful. Jamestown sat on an island that had been ''abandoned'' by the indigenous population because it was so bad. The hunting was bad, the soil marshy, and there was a shortage of clean drinking water. The settlers arrived too late in the year to plant anything. Many died quickly from disease and starvation; the winter of 1609-1610 was known as "Starving Time" that left only 60 of the original ''500'' settlers alive.
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alive. The whole situation for the first colonists got as bad as it did because they almost to a man acted greedier than this movie's villain. It took some rather inflexible leadership afterwards to keep Jamestown fron from becoming a historical footnote.footnote. Even then, Jamestown was gradually abandoned after the capital of Virginia was moved to Williamsburg in 1699. Jamestown fell into disrepair and the site was furthered damaged during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. Today, the site exists as a living history museum and archaeological site.
3rd Apr '14 7:48:03 AM blueranger
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** Actually a good few of them stayed behind. Notice how Thomas and the other guy say "God speed, lad" as John is rowed out onto the ship. The majority stayed behind to populate Jamestown while those who went back only did so to transport Ratcliffe and John.



** Perhaps it was the spirits of the Earth?

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** Perhaps it was the spirits of the Earth?Earth?
** Alternately there's a TimeSkip between Ratcliffe telling James his story and John Rolfe actually arriving. The Queen simply says they have to wait for John Rolfe to return. He could either be about to leave or only just left. There could also have been another ship sent out, this one with maybe just people to populate Jamestown. John Rolfe's ship only was there to transport himself and Chief Powhatan. John Smith's "death" could have been common gossip for weeks before Ratcliffe went to James to tell the story personally.
27th Jan '14 2:58:34 PM blueranger
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* Pocahontas suddenly being able to understand English. And the language barrier being apparently forgotten? Only Pocahontas is ever shown speaking and understanding English. When she speaks to him in front of Nakoma, it's never stated if Nakoma can ''understand'' what they're saying. However her reaction could be either a) the tone Pocahontas is using - she's speaking casually to one of the white men, or b) the fact that Pocahontas is speaking another language. Pocahontas gives no indication that she also understands Thomas at the end. She can tell he's trying to be sympathetic. The English also don't claim to have understood what Powhatan ''said'' at the execution - they know he called it off because he undid John's bonds and he and Pocahontas just hugged. ''In fact'', Ratcliffe's paranoia that it's a trick might stem from the fact that he ''didn't'' understand what Powhatan said. John also gives no indication that he understood Powhatan at the end.
26th Jan '14 3:44:20 AM blueranger
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* Thomas says that the Indians "headed North" when they took John Smith away. And Pocahontas later finds John's compass. Where does the arrow on a compass point to? The compass was pointing her to the place the execution was being held.
* Coupled with AlternateCharacterInterpretation. Ratcliffe says that this trip is his last chance for glory in the English court. Which explains why he's so ''desperate'' to find gold. And leading the battle on the tribe...perhaps he felt that he could get away with not bringing gold home if he could brag about slaughtering a tribe. Or was he hoping to die 'heroically' in battle rather than go back to England empty handed and be disgraced?
4th Jan '14 1:06:52 AM CrayonKiddo
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* The sequel starts in winter. Not only does this give Pocahontas an excuse to sing a bittersweet song about how all things must change, but it insures that when John Rolfe first seed her, she's wearing her winter outfit. That way, he's properly shocked when he sees her wearing only (Jacobean era) underwear.

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* The sequel starts in winter. Not only does this give Pocahontas an excuse to sing a bittersweet song about how all things must change, but it insures that when John Rolfe first seed saw her, she's wearing her winter outfit. That way, he's properly shocked when he sees her wearing only (Jacobean era) underwear.
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