History Fridge / Pocahontas

16th Feb '18 8:02:25 AM Werebazs
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** Alternately there's a TimeSkip between Ratcliffe telling James his story and John Rolfe actually arriving. The Queen simply says they have to wait for John Rolfe to return. He could either be about to leave or only just left. There could also have been another ship sent out, this one with maybe just people to populate Jamestown. John Rolfe's ship only was there to transport himself and Chief Powhatan. John Smith's "death" could have been common gossip for weeks before Ratcliffe went to James to tell the story personally.

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** Alternately there's a TimeSkip between Ratcliffe telling James his story and John Rolfe actually arriving. The Queen simply says they have to wait for John Rolfe to return. He could either be about to leave or only just left. There could also have been another ship sent out, this one with maybe just people to populate Jamestown. John Rolfe's ship only was there to transport himself and Chief Powhatan. John Smith's "death" could have been common gossip for weeks before Ratcliffe went to James to tell the story personally.personally.
** There's clearly a TimeSkip between the two movies. John Smith is shown running around on house roofs fighting off mooks etc in the sequel, which he wouldn't be able to do if the film took place just weeks after his injury. Also Jamestown is shown to have evolved into a proper settlement from a fortified camp, with women and children among the population, eventhough the settlers shown in the first film were all adult men.
27th Aug '17 3:19:38 PM fearlessnikki
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* The first impressions the different Powhatans have to the settlers are what shape their viewpoints. Kocoum and his men's first impression was the settlers digging up their land, and then attacking them with guns. Pocahontas's meanwhile was John choosing to play with Meeko instead of attacking him. So that's why she was willing to get to know the settlers before judging them.
23rd Aug '17 5:28:03 AM fearlessnikki
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* Pocahontas appears to be the only one who gets guidance from Grandmother Willow. Grandmother Willow teaches Aesops about doing the right thing and seeing the other person's point of view. So that is why Pocahontas is the only one to attempt to reason with the settlers.
11th Jul '15 8:24:13 PM JayWells
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11th Jul '15 8:23:29 PM JayWells
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** Most Indigenous People thanked plants cut down and animals killed for their service to the tribe, and they used as much as possible as a way to show respect.
6th Mar '15 9:03:15 AM NickFalcon
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** The look on his face when he sees that John is about to be executed is a mixture of shock and outrage, despite wanting to be rid of John and at the head of his men where he didn't need to fake an emotional display on his face.
6th Mar '15 8:59:49 AM NickFalcon
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** Pay attention to the lyrics. Ratcliffe is very smoothly transitioning from each meaning of the word as he moves through the camp, depending on whether he's talking to himself or the settlers.
3rd Aug '14 11:25:57 AM Random888
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* Why must John be torn away from the love of his life and taken on a four-month voyage across the Atlantic in a rickety wooden ship? To be put into the hands of 17th century medicine, which thought disease was caused by humoral imbalances and leeches were the cure to everything.
3rd Aug '14 10:49:09 AM Random888
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** It gets worse once you realize that life for the settlers in Jamestown was awful. Jamestown sat on an island that had been ''abandoned'' by the indigenous population because it was so bad. The hunting was bad, the soil marshy, and there was a shortage of clean drinking water. The settlers arrived too late in the year to plant anything. Many died quickly from disease and starvation; the winter of 1609-1610 was known as "Starving Time" that left only 60 of the original ''500'' settlers alive.
*** The whole situation for the first colonists got as bad as it did because they almost to a man acted greedier than this movie's villain. It took some rather inflexible leadership afterwards to keep Jamestown fron becoming a historical footnote.

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** It gets worse once you realize that life for the settlers in Jamestown was awful. Jamestown sat on an island that had been ''abandoned'' by the indigenous population because it was so bad. The hunting was bad, the soil marshy, and there was a shortage of clean drinking water. The settlers arrived too late in the year to plant anything. Many died quickly from disease and starvation; the winter of 1609-1610 was known as "Starving Time" that left only 60 of the original ''500'' settlers alive.
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alive. The whole situation for the first colonists got as bad as it did because they almost to a man acted greedier than this movie's villain. It took some rather inflexible leadership afterwards to keep Jamestown fron from becoming a historical footnote.footnote. Even then, Jamestown was gradually abandoned after the capital of Virginia was moved to Williamsburg in 1699. Jamestown fell into disrepair and the site was furthered damaged during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. Today, the site exists as a living history museum and archaeological site.
3rd Apr '14 7:48:03 AM blueranger
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** Actually a good few of them stayed behind. Notice how Thomas and the other guy say "God speed, lad" as John is rowed out onto the ship. The majority stayed behind to populate Jamestown while those who went back only did so to transport Ratcliffe and John.



** Perhaps it was the spirits of the Earth?

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** Perhaps it was the spirits of the Earth?Earth?
** Alternately there's a TimeSkip between Ratcliffe telling James his story and John Rolfe actually arriving. The Queen simply says they have to wait for John Rolfe to return. He could either be about to leave or only just left. There could also have been another ship sent out, this one with maybe just people to populate Jamestown. John Rolfe's ship only was there to transport himself and Chief Powhatan. John Smith's "death" could have been common gossip for weeks before Ratcliffe went to James to tell the story personally.
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