History Fridge / PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians

20th Jun '16 5:52:13 PM missroxyspamcake
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* Surely you'd assume that demigod children would know about their divine origins - actually; a lot of gods probably try to keep this hush hush because when some people know it's not turned out well - I mean, Tantalus, a favored child of Zeus, probably left a ''bad'' taste in a lot of mouths in Olympus (Especially Demeter), Phaeton was allowed to drive the sun because his fellow kids didn't believe him, etc. Not to mention when ''mortals'' know that they were in love with a god, not all of them turned out that well. ([[spoiler: It's mentioned in "The Lost Hero" that Thalia and Jason's mom was...kinda screwed up in the head and Zeus didn't really help her that much, until he came around in his Roman aspect.]]) Plus in today's society being a demigod is a burden than a blessing, as oppose to ancient times, where demigods are practically (and some cases are) worshiped, nowadays being told your a demigod will only make you die faster. Naturally the kids have a right to know are told when they're old enough to handle it; and some mortals who do know about it are told because they can maturely handle it.

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* Surely you'd assume that demigod children would know about their divine origins - actually; a lot of gods probably try to keep this hush hush because when some people know it's not turned out well - I mean, Tantalus, a favored child of Zeus, probably left a ''bad'' taste in a lot of mouths in Olympus (Especially Demeter), Phaeton was allowed to drive the sun because his fellow kids didn't believe him, etc. Not to mention when ''mortals'' know that they were in love with a god, not all of them turned out that well. ([[spoiler: It's mentioned in "The Lost Hero" that Thalia and Jason's mom was...kinda screwed up in the head and Zeus didn't really help her that much, until he came around in his Roman aspect.]] [[spoiler: In regards to Piper's dad, this is outright confirmed. Knowing the gods existed [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow seriously messed with his head]].]]) Plus in today's society being a demigod is a burden than a blessing, as oppose to ancient times, where demigods are practically (and some cases are) worshiped, nowadays being told your a demigod will only make you die faster. Naturally the kids have a right to know are told when they're old enough to handle it; and some mortals who do know about it are told because they can maturely handle it.
4th May '16 7:51:16 AM fbiuzz
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* Athena's apparent dislike of Percy might be only partly because he is Posiden's son. Aside from the fact that Percy has been known to act recklessly, the boy has a powerful scent as a child of the Big Three, and is effectively a monster-magnet. Keeping that in mind, it's understandable that Athena doesn't like him hanging around her favorite daughter so much; she only wants to protect Annabeth. It could also be due to Athena being the goddess of battle strategy, she tends to see people, especially mortals as pieces on a chessboard. It's not that Athena doesn't like Percy (in the past she has help out numerous children of Posiedon before such as Bellerophon), it's that she doesn't trust him.

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* Athena's apparent dislike of Percy might be only partly because he is Posiden's son. Aside from the fact that Percy has been known to act recklessly, the boy has a powerful scent as a child of the Big Three, and is effectively a monster-magnet. Keeping that in mind, it's understandable that Athena doesn't like him hanging around her favorite daughter so much; she only wants to protect Annabeth. It could also be due to Athena being the goddess of battle strategy, she tends to see people, especially mortals as pieces on a chessboard. It's not that Athena doesn't like Percy (in the past she has help out numerous children of Posiedon before such as Bellerophon), Bellerophon, and Theseus was even a king of her patron city), it's that she doesn't trust him.
28th Apr '16 6:55:00 PM maxove
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* After rereading the battle of the labyrinth I realized that Riordan was setting up the groundwork for the [[spoiler: revelation of a roman camp]] in the lost hero and Chiron's knowledge of it early. When Quintus [[spoiler: actually Daedalus]] appears Percy is skeptical of a grown up demigod who had never been to camp halfblood. But Chiron seems to feel uneasy but accepting.[[spoiler: He probably assumed that Quintus was a roman demigod doing what Nico was doing in the Son of Neptune]] this is further supported by the fact that [[spoiler: Quintus was a common Roman name]].
25th Jan '16 11:30:08 AM dmcreif
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* We're told that Sally Jackson chose the name "Perseus" for Percy because he, pretty much alone of the great Greek heroes, got a reasonably happy ending. However, he also [[spoiler: killed his grandfather (by accident); Percy, by comparison, is responsible for the defeat of Kronos, who is ''his'' grandfather]].
* An earlier example from the first book: the Perseus in Greek mythology killed Medusa because he was ordered to by Polydectes, a king. Polydectes was interested in Perseus' mother and wanted him out of the way so that he could force her to marry him. Perseus returned with Medusa's head and turned him to stone. [[spoiler: Percy's abusive stepdad Gabe befalls the same fate.]]

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* We're told that Sally Jackson chose the name "Perseus" for Percy because he, pretty much alone of the great Greek heroes, got a reasonably happy ending. However, he also [[spoiler: killed his grandfather (by accident); Percy, by comparison, is responsible for the defeat of Kronos, who is ''his'' grandfather]].
grandfather]]. So it's only fitting that history repeated itself.
* An earlier example from the first book: the Perseus in Greek mythology killed Medusa because he was ordered to by on the orders of Polydectes, a king. Polydectes was interested in Perseus' mother and wanted him out of the way so that he could force her to marry him. Perseus returned with Medusa's head and turned him to stone. [[spoiler: Percy's abusive stepdad Gabe befalls the same fate.]]



* In book two, Percy talks about seeing a father and his two elementary school-aged daughters on the Princess Andromeda, along with other guests. In book four, all the guests are gone. Percy theorizes that they [[NeverSayDie "didn't get to leave with their bingo winnings"]]. This includes, of course, the father & his daughters.

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* In book two, Percy talks about seeing spots a father and his two elementary school-aged daughters on the Princess Andromeda, ''Princess Andromeda'', along with other guests. In book four, all the guests are gone. Percy theorizes that they [[NeverSayDie "didn't get to leave with their bingo winnings"]]. This includes, of course, the father & his daughters.



*** In Son of Magic (Short story by Riordan's son, found in Demigod Diaries), [[spoiler: Alabaster, son of Hecate, states that when Beckendorf and Percy blew up the Andromeda, not only were monsters lost, but demigods who had sided with Kronos.]]

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*** In Son of Magic (Short story by Riordan's son, found in Demigod Diaries), [[spoiler: Alabaster, son of Hecate, states that when Beckendorf and Percy blew up the Andromeda, not only were monsters lost, but demigods who had sided with were allied to Kronos.]]



** [[spoiler: Considering the slim chance of them actually getting out and not dying painfully of starvation, dehydration, and exhaustion, it was probably a MercyKill.]]

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** [[spoiler: Considering the slim chance of them anyone actually getting out and not dying painfully of an excruciating death from starvation, dehydration, and exhaustion, it was probably a MercyKill.]]



* At the end of The Lightning Thief, Percy's mom [[spoiler: turns her husband to stone, with Percy's help.]] For the entire rest of the series, no one brings it up again, or comments on the fact that this is murder.

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* At the end of The ''The Lightning Thief, Thief'', Percy's mom [[spoiler: turns her husband to stone, with Percy's help.]] For the entire rest of the series, no one brings it up again, or comments on the fact that this is murder.



** If it's fitting, Gabe probably ended up in the Fields of Punishment, so......

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** If it's fitting, Look, let's cut to the chase and say that Gabe probably ended up in the Fields of Punishment, so......



* The Underworld/Afterlife. First, you better be able to pay a fee to Charon for transportation. If you can't? Oh, too bad, you're stuck until he feels nice. (And that can be up to 100 years.) Second, the judges of the underworld can show bias as evidenced by Minos meaning they might not always be fair. Third, where you go heavily depends on what the gods' opinions of you today are. If you have their favor, it might save you from the Fields of Punishment or even get you a retirement in Elysium. If you have angered a god unknowingly or hated the Olympians for them making your life miserable you can easily be denied Elysium or end up in the Fields of Punishment. Fourth, if a new group of deities takes over the laws that decide where people go can change and even those in Elysium might find themselves in the Fields of Punishment for supporting the old order. No wonder most people choose the Asphodel Fields. As Grover put it, "Just imagine standing in a wheat field in the middle of Kansas, ''forever''."

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* The Underworld/Afterlife. First, for the love of Hades, you better be able to make sure you can pay a fee to Charon for transportation. If you can't? Oh, too bad, you're stuck until he feels nice. (And that can be up to 100 years.) Second, the judges of the underworld can show bias as evidenced by Minos meaning they might not always be fair. Third, where you go heavily depends on what the gods' opinions of you today are. If you have their favor, it might save you from the Fields of Punishment or even get you a retirement in Elysium. If you have angered a god unknowingly or hated the Olympians for them making your life miserable you can easily be denied Elysium or end up in the Fields of Punishment. Fourth, if a new group of deities takes over the laws that decide where people go can change and even those in Elysium might find themselves in the Fields of Punishment for supporting the old order. No wonder most people choose the Asphodel Fields. As Grover put it, "Just imagine standing in a wheat field in the middle of Kansas, ''forever''."
20th Jan '16 11:38:36 AM dmcreif
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** I'd like to point out that the nickname [[spoiler: ''Smelly'' Gabe]] was said to be appropriate for a good reason: [[spoiler: his smell was so bad that it could hide a demigod from monsters. Percy was son of one of the three greater ones, and it still took months for a monster spending several hours every day next to him to suspect him.]] Being the first one, quite far from the DarkerAndEdgier tones the series got from the third onwards, that subject is never really touched but it's quite implied he [[spoiler: used at the very least to beat Percy's mother.]] More than fridge horror, is that sincerely everyone just think he got what he deserved.

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** I'd like to point out that the nickname [[spoiler: ''Smelly'' Gabe]] Gabe was said to be appropriate for a good reason: [[spoiler: his smell was so bad that it could hide a demigod from monsters. Percy was son of one of the three greater ones, and it still took months for a monster spending several hours every day next to him to suspect him.]] Being the first one, quite far from the DarkerAndEdgier tones the series got from the third onwards, that subject is never really touched but it's quite implied he [[spoiler: used at the very least to beat Percy's mother.]] More than fridge horror, is that sincerely everyone just think he got what he deserved.deserved.
** If it's fitting, Gabe probably ended up in the Fields of Punishment, so......



* The Underworld/Afterlife. First, if you cannot pay Charon. Too bad, you're stuck until he feels nice. (100 years according to the most common version.) Second, the judges of the underworld can show bias as evidenced by Minos meaning they might not always be fair. Third, where you go heavily depends on what the gods think of you. If you have their favor, it might save you from the Fields of Punishment or even get you in Elysium. If you have angered a god unknowingly or hated the Olympians for them making your life miserable you can easily be denied Elysium or end up in the Fields of Punishment. Fourth, if a new group of deities takes over the laws that decide where people go can change and even those in Elysium might find themselves in the Fields of Punishment for supporting the old order. No wonder most people choose the Asphodel Fields. Just imagine standing in a wheat field in the middle of Kansas, ''forever''.

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* The Underworld/Afterlife. First, if you cannot better be able to pay Charon. Too a fee to Charon for transportation. If you can't? Oh, too bad, you're stuck until he feels nice. (100 years according (And that can be up to the most common version.100 years.) Second, the judges of the underworld can show bias as evidenced by Minos meaning they might not always be fair. Third, where you go heavily depends on what the gods think gods' opinions of you. you today are. If you have their favor, it might save you from the Fields of Punishment or even get you a retirement in Elysium. If you have angered a god unknowingly or hated the Olympians for them making your life miserable you can easily be denied Elysium or end up in the Fields of Punishment. Fourth, if a new group of deities takes over the laws that decide where people go can change and even those in Elysium might find themselves in the Fields of Punishment for supporting the old order. No wonder most people choose the Asphodel Fields. Just As Grover put it, "Just imagine standing in a wheat field in the middle of Kansas, ''forever''."



* Percy's release of Blackbeard and his pirates upon Circe's island makes you wonder just what happened to all the other women who were residing there and didn't escape.

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* Percy's release of Blackbeard and his pirates upon Circe's island makes you wonder just wonder, "just what happened to all the other women who were residing there and didn't escape.escape?" You have to think that rape or murder are the most likely answers....
19th Dec '15 8:08:14 AM fbiuzz
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* It's stated in-text that the Gods, Titans and other immortal beings lose and gain power based on how much people remember them.
* The reason why gods do not care about incest? The thing about the gods are that they are physically perfect, part of what makes them godly is that they don't have any flaws in their genetic code that causes genetic disorders. So, the reasons behind the taboo on relatives marrying when it comes to people related through gods is void, and assuming they aren't related through their mortal parent, two demigods are as likely to have a child with a genetic disorder as two completely unrelated individuals.

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* It's stated in-text that the Gods, Titans and other immortal beings lose and gain power based on how much people remember them.
* The reason why gods do not care about incest? The thing about the gods are that they are physically perfect, part of what makes them godly is that they don't have any flaws in their genetic code that causes genetic disorders. body(except for Hephaestus). So, the practical reasons behind the taboo on relatives marrying when it comes to people related through gods is void, and assuming they aren't related through their mortal parent, two demigods are as likely to have a child with a genetic disorder as two completely unrelated individuals.
19th Dec '15 8:06:30 AM fbiuzz
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* It's stated in-text that the Gods, Titans and other immortal beings lose and gain power based on how much people remember them. This completely explains why such powerhouses like the Drakon, Typhon, even Freaking Kronos are defeated in just a couple paragraphs. Ask the average person on the street and they'll be able to name Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades. Maybe a few of the others. But maybe one in a thousand could dredge up such obscure details of Greek mythology.

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* It's stated in-text that the Gods, Titans and other immortal beings lose and gain power based on how much people remember them. This completely explains why such powerhouses like the Drakon, Typhon, even Freaking Kronos are defeated in just a couple paragraphs. Ask the average person on the street and they'll be able to name Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades. Maybe a few of the others. But maybe one in a thousand could dredge up such obscure details of Greek mythology.
19th Dec '15 8:03:39 AM fbiuzz
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* From a neutral perspective, Annabeth's running away when she was seven makes sense. Children's minds are programed for black and white thinking, so if she got into trouble a lot, it would make sense that she would come to the conclusion that her father and stepmother didn't love or want her. Adding to that, it would make sense as well that Annabeth's choice would be foolish; there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. Intelligence is usually a mantle process but wisdom almost always comes from experience, which a little girl fresh from a comfortable home wouldn't have yet, divine parent or no.
* Athena's apparent dislike of Percy might be only partly because he is Posiden's son. Aside from the fact that Percy has been known to act recklessly, the boy has a powerful scent as a child of the Big Three, and is effectively a monster-magnet. Keeping that in mind, it's understandable that Athena doesn't like him hanging around her favorite daughter so much; she only wants to protect Annabeth. It could also be due to Athena being the goddess of battle strategy, and thus refrains from being overly trusting. It's not that Athena doesn't like Percy, it's that she doesn't trust him.

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* From a neutral perspective, Annabeth's running away when she was seven makes sense. Children's minds are programed for black and white thinking, so if she got into trouble a lot, it would make sense that she would come to the conclusion that her father and stepmother didn't love or want her. Adding to that, it would make sense as well that Annabeth's choice would be foolish; there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. Intelligence is usually a mantle process determine by genetics, but wisdom almost always comes from experience, which a little seven-year old girl fresh from a comfortable home wouldn't have yet, regardless of having a divine parent or no.
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* Athena's apparent dislike of Percy might be only partly because he is Posiden's son. Aside from the fact that Percy has been known to act recklessly, the boy has a powerful scent as a child of the Big Three, and is effectively a monster-magnet. Keeping that in mind, it's understandable that Athena doesn't like him hanging around her favorite daughter so much; she only wants to protect Annabeth. It could also be due to Athena being the goddess of battle strategy, and thus refrains from being overly trusting. she tends to see people, especially mortals as pieces on a chessboard. It's not that Athena doesn't like Percy, Percy (in the past she has help out numerous children of Posiedon before such as Bellerophon), it's that she doesn't trust him.him.



* Surely you'd assume that demigod children would know about their divine origins - actually; a lot of gods probably try to keep this hush hush because when some people know it's not turned out well - I mean, Tantalus, a favored child of Zeus, probably left a ''bad'' taste in a lot of mouths in Olympus (Especially Hera), Phaeton was allowed to drive the sun because his fellow kids didn't believe him, etc. Not to mention when ''mortals'' know that they were in love with a god, not all of them turned out that well. ([[spoiler: It's mentioned in "The Lost Hero" that Thalia and Jason's mom was...kinda screwed up in the head and Zeus didn't really help her that much, until he came around in his Roman aspect.]]) Plus in today's society being a demigod is a burden than a blessing, as oppose to ancient times, where demigods are practically (and some cases are) worshipped. Naturally the kids have a right to know are told when they're old enough to handle it; and some mortals who do know about it are told because they can maturely handle it.

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* Surely you'd assume that demigod children would know about their divine origins - actually; a lot of gods probably try to keep this hush hush because when some people know it's not turned out well - I mean, Tantalus, a favored child of Zeus, probably left a ''bad'' taste in a lot of mouths in Olympus (Especially Hera), Demeter), Phaeton was allowed to drive the sun because his fellow kids didn't believe him, etc. Not to mention when ''mortals'' know that they were in love with a god, not all of them turned out that well. ([[spoiler: It's mentioned in "The Lost Hero" that Thalia and Jason's mom was...kinda screwed up in the head and Zeus didn't really help her that much, until he came around in his Roman aspect.]]) Plus in today's society being a demigod is a burden than a blessing, as oppose to ancient times, where demigods are practically (and some cases are) worshipped.worshiped, nowadays being told your a demigod will only make you die faster. Naturally the kids have a right to know are told when they're old enough to handle it; and some mortals who do know about it are told because they can maturely handle it.



** I saw it differently: the defenders in the Trojan War lost but despite the half-bloods heritage the kids aren't Greek, they're American, and America won its war of independence defending itself not by invading.

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** I saw it differently: It also should be known that Prometheus is the defenders in god of ''forethought'' not ''foresight''. He can predict the Trojan War lost future, but despite as anyone from Greek Mythology tell you, the half-bloods heritage the kids aren't Greek, they're American, and America won its war of independence defending itself future is not by invading.always what you think it is.



* Percy. Perseus. ''An''nabeth. ''An''dromeda.

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* Percy. Perseus. ''An''nabeth. ''An''dromeda. Annabeth. Athena.
14th Nov '15 4:44:30 AM mpaje
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** While I can't deny the above statements, the movie was actually more accurate by accident with having Persephone in the Underworld. In the original myth, it was said that Demeter created a season of death for crops and farms. For most of the modern Western world, we would obviously assume this to be winter. But for the ancient Greeks, who lived much closer to the equator, this would be summer as it would be much too hot and dry to properly raise a farm.
26th Oct '15 5:31:34 PM Ricorum
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* Notice that Hades was absent from the winter solstice meeting in ''The Titan's Curse''? He didn't want to draw attention to himself with Nico out there.

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* * Notice that Hades was absent from the winter solstice meeting in ''The Titan's Curse''? He didn't want to draw attention to himself with Nico out there.there.
** This troper always thought that Hades was there all along, invisible. However, your theory still holds weight, since he's not drawing attention to himself.
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