History Fridge / POKEMON

7th May '18 12:21:19 PM Randomwaffle23
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* If looked at in retrospect, it is ''very'' clear the Pokémon are Pocket ''Monsters'', that are more than content to maul any human that lacks the ability to defend themselves ("It's unsafe! Wild POKEMON live in tall grass! You need your own POKEMON for your protection."). This neatly explains why DuelsDecideEverything (you are trying to remove your foe's defense against your deadly monster or vice versa) and such. This isn't so "fridge" in Special and Orre though, where it is a tad more explicit.

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* If looked at in retrospect, it is ''very'' clear the Pokémon are Pocket ''Monsters'', that are more than content to maul any human that lacks the ability to defend themselves ("It's unsafe! Wild POKEMON Pokémon live in tall grass! You need your own POKEMON Pokémon for your protection."). This neatly explains why DuelsDecideEverything (you are trying to remove your foe's defense against your deadly monster or vice versa) and such. This isn't so "fridge" in Special and Orre though, where it is a tad more explicit.



** Alternately, your character pays the winning trainer to keep you from getting mauled on your way back to town.
** Or your both straight up trying to mug each other

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** Alternately, your character pays the winning trainer Trainer to keep you from getting mauled on your way back to town.
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town. Or your you're both straight up trying to mug each other other.



*** Jigglypuff and Skitty both evolve from a moon stone, so perhaps they are related to clefairy or other extraterrestrial Pokemon which would explain their rarity.

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*** Jigglypuff and Skitty both evolve from a moon stone, so perhaps they are related to clefairy or other extraterrestrial Pokemon Pokémon which would explain their rarity.



** Another explanation of the 7 to 1 starter sex ratio is that the ratio is not natural; it merely reflects that the trainers have 87.5% possibility to receive a male starter Pokémon. These Pokémon are rare in the wild, but every region needs a large number of them for starters (not just you and your rival!), so they have to breed them. To maintain less cost and more efficiency in breeding, they need a lot more females than males. Naturally the Professors are more willing to give out males to new trainers.
*** Jossed. When you breed your starter (if you have a Ditto or another one of the opposite gender not related to eachother) then the male to female ratio is still the same.

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** Another explanation of the 7 to 1 starter sex ratio is that the ratio is not natural; it merely reflects that the trainers Trainers have 87.5% possibility to receive a male starter Pokémon. These Pokémon are rare in the wild, but every region needs a large number of them for starters (not just you and your rival!), so they have to breed them. To maintain less cost and more efficiency in breeding, they need a lot more females than males. Naturally the Professors are more willing to give out males to new trainers.
Trainers.
*** Jossed. When you breed your starter (if you have a Ditto or another one of the opposite gender not related to eachother) each other) then the male to female ratio is still the same.



* The reason the pokemon say nothing but their names is because ''scientists named them after the sounds they made!''

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* The reason the pokemon Pokémon say nothing but their names is because ''scientists named them after the sounds they made!''



** Jossed: Some 'mons in the anime don't say their names, such as Weepinbell, which makes a loud screeching sound. (although I can accept it would be pretty impractical to name a pokemon "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

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** Jossed: Some 'mons in the anime don't say their names, such as Weepinbell, which makes a loud screeching sound. (although I can accept (Although it would be pretty impractical to name a pokemon "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"Pokémon "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".)



*** There are plenty of real life animals who aren't named after the sounds they make--that kind of thing is typically reserved for animals with particularly distinct calls (the cuckoo, the dik-dik, the killdeer etc). It's possible that some pokemon are named after their calls (the ones that very obviously make those noises) and others are named for other reasons, like perhaps their physical appearance (for example, the aforementioned Weepinbell might have been named because it looks like a bell and a look of mild distress on its face, while its evolution victreebel might have been named because it also looks like a bell but appears more triumphant).
** But it might be the other way around: pokemon can talk (at least some of them), but with few exceptions (some legendaries, Team Rocket's Meowth, us) they are very limited in it, able to only say one word, and it makes sense that the one they'd learn would be their own name (perhaps it's the word the first ones who managed to talk learned and so it spread between the others, explaining why this is true also for the wild ones).
*** This would explain why so many Pokemon "sounds" have English words (or indeed, entire clever English puns) in them. It would be interesting if Pokemon in non-English speaking countries of the Pokemon universe say their non-English names.
* A cool bit of potential {{Worldbuilding}} as well as aversion of ArtisticLicensePaleontology, the fossil Pokemon all paint an interesting picture of what the prehistoric past was like for the Pokemon world:

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*** There are plenty of real life animals who aren't named after the sounds they make--that make—that kind of thing is typically reserved for animals with particularly distinct calls (the cuckoo, the dik-dik, the killdeer etc). It's possible that some pokemon Pokémon are named after their calls (the ones that very obviously make those noises) and others are named for other reasons, like perhaps their physical appearance (for example, the aforementioned Weepinbell might have been named because it looks like a bell and a look of mild distress on its face, while its evolution victreebel might have been named because it also looks like a bell but appears more triumphant).
** But it might be the other way around: pokemon Pokémon can talk (at least some of them), but with few exceptions (some legendaries, Team Rocket's Meowth, us) they are very limited in it, able to only say one word, and it makes sense that the one they'd learn would be their own name (perhaps it's the word the first ones who managed to talk learned and so it spread between the others, explaining why this is true also for the wild ones).
*** This would explain why so many Pokemon Pokémon "sounds" have English words (or indeed, entire clever English puns) in them. It would be interesting if Pokemon Pokémon in non-English speaking countries of the Pokemon Pokémon universe say their non-English names.
* A cool bit of potential {{Worldbuilding}} as well as aversion of ArtisticLicensePaleontology, the fossil Pokemon Pokémon all paint an interesting picture of what the prehistoric past was like for the Pokemon Pokémon world:



** As for the (usually non-plot relevant) trio legendaries who start with 35 base friendship, it's probably because they don't want to show themselves to just any old trainer -- the fact that some of them roam is an additional test of strength. The Sinnoh lake guardians are an exception to this; they're willing to trust you from the get-go because you released them from Team Galactic.

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** As for the (usually non-plot relevant) trio legendaries who start with 35 base friendship, it's probably because they don't want to show themselves to just any old trainer -- the Trainer—the fact that some of them roam is an additional test of strength. The Sinnoh lake guardians are an exception to this; they're willing to trust you from the get-go because you released them from Team Galactic.



* Remember how Ash/Satoshi defeated Onix and received the boulder badge? Pikachu hit the sprinklers inside of the gym to get Onix wet first. Getting Onix wet made it vulnerable to electric attacks. Fast forward a few generations, we now have the pokemon move "Soak", which changes the opposing Pokemon into a Water type.

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* Remember how Ash/Satoshi defeated Onix and received the boulder badge? Pikachu hit the sprinklers inside of the gym to get Onix wet first. Getting Onix wet made it vulnerable to electric attacks. Fast forward a few generations, we now have the pokemon Pokémon move "Soak", which changes the opposing Pokemon Pokémon into a Water type.



*** Or you could just go by the first set of manga. The [=TMs=] are audio-books, and the player puts the headphones on the Pokemon.

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*** Or you could just go by the first set of manga. The [=TMs=] are audio-books, and the player puts the headphones on the Pokemon.Pokémon.



** [[HilariousInHindsight Taken up a step when a slowpoke that KNEW Curse was obtained!]]

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** [[HilariousInHindsight Taken up a step when a slowpoke Slowpoke that KNEW Curse was obtained!]]



** I don't know how to break it to you, but Pokemon didn't come up with the concept of "hypnosis".
*** Hypnos the god's name, not Hypnos the Pokemon's name. ~Tropers/JET73L (Not Original Poster)

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** I don't know how to break it to you, but Pokemon Pokémon didn't come up with the concept of "hypnosis".
*** Hypnos the god's name, not Hypnos the Pokemon's Pokémon's name. ~Tropers/JET73L (Not Original Poster)



* Probably a mix of both Fridge Brilliance and Fridge Horror: several Pokemon can learn the Poison-type move Gunk Shot, including the several monkey/ape-based Pokemon such as Infernape, Primeape, Aipom, and Vigoroth. It seems random at first, until you realize that many monkeys are known for [[{{Squick}} flinging their feces at aggressors]]...
* Uproar is a move that causes the Pokémon to scream and shout for several turns during which no one can sleep. It is mostly learned by baby pokemon. It's basically [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_colic colic]] as an attack.

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* Probably a mix of both Fridge Brilliance and Fridge Horror: several Pokemon Pokémon can learn the Poison-type move Gunk Shot, including the several monkey/ape-based Pokemon Pokémon such as Infernape, Primeape, Aipom, and Vigoroth. It seems random at first, until you realize that many monkeys are known for [[{{Squick}} flinging their feces at aggressors]]...
* Uproar is a move that causes the Pokémon to scream and shout for several turns during which no one can sleep. It is mostly learned by baby pokemon.Pokémon. It's basically [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_colic colic]] as an attack.



* Meloetta's SecretArt, Relic Song, is learned under peaceful circumstances and makes everyone around her happy. Most Pokemon attacks seem like they could have intent to kill. But remember that Relic Song attacks by appealing to the hearts of those listening...and in battle, it does do a decently high amount of damage, but a Pokemon that's out of HP isn't dead, but instead [[NonLethalKO has either fallen unconscious or lost their will to fight.]] Meloetta's signature move may not do actual harm at all, but instead make the opponent simply not want to battle anymore.

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* Meloetta's SecretArt, Relic Song, is learned under peaceful circumstances and makes everyone around her happy. Most Pokemon Pokémon attacks seem like they could have intent to kill. But remember that Relic Song attacks by appealing to the hearts of those listening...and in battle, it does do a decently high amount of damage, but a Pokemon Pokémon that's out of HP isn't dead, but instead [[NonLethalKO has either fallen unconscious or lost their will to fight.]] Meloetta's signature move may not do actual harm at all, but instead make the opponent simply not want to battle anymore.



** Counter is a Fighting-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the physical attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Ghost-type Pokemon. All Ghost-type attacks dealt ''physical'' damage before Generation IV. Furthermore, in Generation I, Counter only worked on Normal and Fighting-type moves, the two types Ghost-type Pokemon happen to be immune to.
** Mirror Coat is a Psychic-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the special attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Dark-type Pokemon. All Dark-type attacks dealt ''special'' damage before Generation IV.

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** Counter is a Fighting-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the physical attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Ghost-type Pokemon.Pokémon. All Ghost-type attacks dealt ''physical'' damage before Generation IV. Furthermore, in Generation I, Counter only worked on Normal and Fighting-type moves, the two types Ghost-type Pokemon Pokémon happen to be immune to.
** Mirror Coat is a Psychic-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the special attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Dark-type Pokemon.Pokémon. All Dark-type attacks dealt ''special'' damage before Generation IV.



* For a long time I thought the grunts of any criminal organization not having names while other trainers do was just a result of a combination of laziness and a way of keeping anyone from sympathizing with them. Then I realize, ''[[{{Namedar}} how would you know what their names are in the first place]]''? Trainers tell you their names (offscreen) so you'll remember them especially if they want a rematch, Gym Leaders introduce themselves because that's part of their job, and important villains tell you their names mostly out of ego (the same goes for the Scientist working with Team Rocket and Team Galactic), but grunts are just battling to get you to go away and wouldn't ''want'' you to know their names because that would make it harder for them to evade law enforcement if they left the team. --{{thatother1dude}}

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* For a long time I thought the grunts of any criminal organization not having names while other trainers Trainers do was just a result of a combination of laziness and a way of keeping anyone from sympathizing with them. Then I realize, ''[[{{Namedar}} how would you know what their names are in the first place]]''? Trainers tell you their names (offscreen) so you'll remember them especially if they want a rematch, Gym Leaders introduce themselves because that's part of their job, and important villains tell you their names mostly out of ego (the same goes for the Scientist working with Team Rocket and Team Galactic), but grunts are just battling to get you to go away and wouldn't ''want'' you to know their names because that would make it harder for them to evade law enforcement if they left the team. --{{thatother1dude}}



** Alternatively, the day care people really don't know. Pokemon are obviously [[BizarreAlienBiology built differently than animals]] (Pokemon seem able to withstand more damage without any permanent damage or scarring; all Pokemon apparently have DNA, even inorganic Pokemon such as Porygon, Claydol, and Klink; etc.), so [[BizarreAlienReproduction how Pokemon breed is probably different, too.]] Considering how supposedly no one has ever seen a Pokemon lay an egg, for all I know, Pokemon breeding [[GoMadfromtheRevelation might be incomprehensible to humans.]]

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** Alternatively, the day care people really don't know. Pokemon Pokémon are obviously [[BizarreAlienBiology built differently than animals]] (Pokemon (Pokémon seem able to withstand more damage without any permanent damage or scarring; all Pokemon Pokémon apparently have DNA, even inorganic Pokemon Pokémon such as Porygon, Claydol, and Klink; etc.), so [[BizarreAlienReproduction how Pokemon Pokémon breed is probably different, too.]] Considering how supposedly no one has ever seen a Pokemon Pokémon lay an egg, for all I know, Pokemon Pokémon breeding [[GoMadfromtheRevelation might be incomprehensible to humans.]]



*** Building on the pokemon breeding not being the same as normal animal mating; Ditto can breed with genderless pokemon (likely by transforming into replicas of the genderless pokemon), male pokemon pass down moves through genetics, mothers pass down natures (and fathers in generation V) if they hold items - there seems to be some indication that these pokemon are breeding through data or some sort of estranged DNA-system that might not be at-all similar to how humans breed. For all we know it may just be close proximity for extended duration that produces an egg out of thin air in some shining glowing bauble similar to how pokemon evolve.
** Clearly there's a stork Pokemon that we haven't been introduced to yet.

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*** Building on the pokemon Pokémon breeding not being the same as normal animal mating; Ditto can breed with genderless pokemon Pokémon (likely by transforming into replicas of the genderless pokemon), Pokémon), male pokemon Pokémon pass down moves through genetics, mothers pass down natures (and fathers in generation V) if they hold items - there seems to be some indication that these pokemon Pokémon are breeding through data or some sort of estranged DNA-system that might not be at-all similar to how humans breed. For all we know it may just be close proximity for extended duration that produces an egg out of thin air in some shining glowing bauble similar to how pokemon Pokémon evolve.
** Clearly there's a stork Pokemon Pokémon that we haven't been introduced to yet.



*** R/S/E remakes (or rather, two Emerald remakes with elements from Ruby and Sapphire to distinguish them) are inevitable, for the above stated reasons. The third version to Black and White will probably be out for the holiday season 2012, and the Gen III remakes will follow either in mid-2013 (and then Gen VI in 2014-2015 etc). But Gen I re-remakes are unlikely because of...Johto! The Gen II remakes include the full Kanto Pokédex, split between Red/Gold and Blue/Silver. The plot of Gen. I is lost to time, but the point of the remakes is ostensibly so every Pokemon can be obtainable between the current generation and the last one. If all of the Kanto Pokemon can be found in Johto, there's no need to re-redo Kanto.
*** Not anymore, your predictions were a bit off. Gen III remakes are still on the table with the designers saying they'll think about it. The 'third' version of Black and White are actually Black 2 and White 2 and nearly completely different games with some shared similarities of how Diamond and Pearl are related to Platinum and Heart Gold/Soul Silver at the same time (same map as Black/White but different pokedex and different story line, though following the events of Black/White). Finally, Gen VI is confirmed to come out later in 2013. So if Ruby/Sapphire remakes come out they'll even be in 3D.

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*** R/S/E remakes (or rather, two Emerald remakes with elements from Ruby and Sapphire to distinguish them) are inevitable, for the above stated reasons. The third version to Black and White will probably be out for the holiday season 2012, and the Gen III remakes will follow either in mid-2013 (and then Gen VI in 2014-2015 etc). But Gen I re-remakes are unlikely because of...Johto! The Gen II remakes include the full Kanto Pokédex, split between Red/Gold and Blue/Silver. The plot of Gen. I is lost to time, but the point of the remakes is ostensibly so every Pokemon Pokémon can be obtainable between the current generation and the last one. If all of the Kanto Pokemon Pokémon can be found in Johto, there's no need to re-redo Kanto.
*** Not anymore, your predictions were a bit off. Gen III remakes are still on the table with the designers saying they'll think about it. The 'third' version of Black and White are actually Black 2 and White 2 and nearly completely different games with some shared similarities of how Diamond and Pearl are related to Platinum and Heart Gold/Soul Silver at the same time (same map as Black/White but different pokedex Pokédex and different story line, though following the events of Black/White). Finally, Gen VI is confirmed to come out later in 2013. So if Ruby/Sapphire remakes come out they'll even be in 3D.



** I don't think a Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald remake would make much sense. Storyline wise, FireRed and LeafGreen were possible because it was never implied or stated that the Hoenn storyline happened directly after the Johto storyline of Gold/Silver/Crystal, and in actual fact the Kanto story of Red/Blue/Yellow happened simultaneously with the Hoenn story of Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (that is, BEFORE Gold/Silver/Crystal in Johto), so FireRed and LeafGreen were possible. And on a similar basis, HeartGold and SoulSilver (as remakes of Johto in Gold/Silver/Crystal) were also possible because it was never implied that the Sinnoh storyline of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum happened after Hoenn's Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald storyline either, and that instead they happened at the same time as Johto's Gold/Silver/Crystal (i.e. BEFORE Hoenn's Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald), so HeartGold and SoulSilver were also POSSIBLE. Anyway, long story short, Black/White and Black2/White2 are known to happen after the events of Pokemon Platinum, which means Ruby/Sapphire remakes are not possible as they would not be happening at the same time.

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** I don't think a Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald remake would make much sense. Storyline wise, FireRed and LeafGreen were possible because it was never implied or stated that the Hoenn storyline happened directly after the Johto storyline of Gold/Silver/Crystal, and in actual fact the Kanto story of Red/Blue/Yellow happened simultaneously with the Hoenn story of Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (that is, BEFORE Gold/Silver/Crystal in Johto), so FireRed and LeafGreen were possible. And on a similar basis, HeartGold and SoulSilver (as remakes of Johto in Gold/Silver/Crystal) were also possible because it was never implied that the Sinnoh storyline of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum happened after Hoenn's Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald storyline either, and that instead they happened at the same time as Johto's Gold/Silver/Crystal (i.e. BEFORE Hoenn's Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald), so HeartGold and SoulSilver were also POSSIBLE. Anyway, long story short, Black/White and Black2/White2 are known to happen after the events of Pokemon Pokémon Platinum, which means Ruby/Sapphire remakes are not possible as they would not be happening at the same time.



** How about this. They make a game entitled "Pokemon: World Tour" which has you on an epic quest to find out what has happened to the disappearing legendary Pokemon. To do so, you travel from region to region, leaving all your Pokemon behind when you travel to a new one, until you thwart the evil plans of the region's team and defeat the champion, then you can travel to the next region. After finishing every region, you meet Arceus, who sends you on a journey to go to a new land that has every legendary Pokemon there, which you capture before facing Arceus. A possible raise of the level cap too?

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** How about this. They make a game entitled "Pokemon: "Pokémon: World Tour" which has you on an epic quest to find out what has happened to the disappearing legendary Pokemon. Pokémon. To do so, you travel from region to region, leaving all your Pokemon Pokémon behind when you travel to a new one, until you thwart the evil plans of the region's team and defeat the champion, then you can travel to the next region. After finishing every region, you meet Arceus, who sends you on a journey to go to a new land that has every legendary Pokemon Pokémon there, which you capture before facing Arceus. A possible raise of the level cap too?



** By extension day/night evolutions can fall under this as well... but I think one difference is in trade evos that deal with items, like Porygon. I always thought that the Pokemon distorts during the trading process because Pokemon seem to temporarily become data in a trade (in-universe as well). I figure maybe certain Pokemon merge with their hold items due to a glitch that is never quite understood. Granted, this can still follow the above in addition to my idea.
** If Pokemon gain experience because of EM waves, then Team Rocket was able to make Pokemon in the Lake of Rage evolve by using radio waves...which ARE EM waves.
* This troper always wondered why using an evolutionary stone on the majority of Pokemon caused it to get a huge stat boost, but then made it unable to learn any new moves. Then it hit me; I remembered reading or hearing that stones, "radiates a mysterious energy." So I start thinking, "they're radioactive," and then it made sense. The stones radioactivity force the Pokemon to move beyond its normal final stage, into a powerful creature (think about the three-eyed fish from the simpsons), but stunt its growth permanently, which is why they stop learning other than from the [=TMs=]! This made me think that some Pokemon are better conditioned for this (Isn't Eevee's genetic code already unstable?), which is why they still learn moves, or that the method had been lost to time, or they're unique, which could also be why, "area methods," work. How rare is it to find another mossy stone radiating an energy Eevees can use? -- DeimelLongshot
* I've always wondered how you could see your Pokemon's condition. After seeing the Manga with translucent pokeballs, all the times a trainer looked at their pokeballs in the anime, somehow seeing their Pokemon, made sense. It also explains how the player can see their Pokemon's stamina (health), condition, and so on. -- DeimelLongshot
** This troper always assumed the Pokedex had a function that allowed it to read the energy in the pokeball and assert its readings into statistics for the owner.
* I just realized why the evil teams back off once you beat them. Imagine Pokemon in a wild west setting. Everyones got a gun/Pokemon. Everyone is walking around with a [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] hanging off their belt. With a limited amount of bullets. You get in a fight with a baddie and you out shoot them, knocking their gun from their hand or they use up all their bullets. There you are, gun out, bullets loaded, and they have nothing. Gen V establishes that there are no guns, so Pokemon are weapons for evil teams. You have Pokemon at strength and theirs are gone. Would you mess with someone who has just disarmed you and can make you their next target? --MayBeThomas

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** By extension day/night evolutions can fall under this as well... but I think one difference is in trade evos that deal with items, like Porygon. I always thought that the Pokemon Pokémon distorts during the trading process because Pokemon Pokémon seem to temporarily become data in a trade (in-universe as well). I figure maybe certain Pokemon Pokémon merge with their hold items due to a glitch that is never quite understood. Granted, this can still follow the above in addition to my idea.
** If Pokemon Pokémon gain experience because of EM waves, then Team Rocket was able to make Pokemon Pokémon in the Lake of Rage evolve by using radio waves...which ARE EM waves.
* This troper always wondered why using an evolutionary stone on the majority of Pokemon Pokémon caused it to get a huge stat boost, but then made it unable to learn any new moves. Then it hit me; I remembered reading or hearing that stones, "radiates a mysterious energy." So I start thinking, "they're radioactive," and then it made sense. The stones radioactivity force the Pokemon Pokémon to move beyond its normal final stage, into a powerful creature (think about the three-eyed fish from the simpsons), but stunt its growth permanently, which is why they stop learning other than from the [=TMs=]! This made me think that some Pokemon Pokémon are better conditioned for this (Isn't Eevee's genetic code already unstable?), which is why they still learn moves, or that the method had been lost to time, or they're unique, which could also be why, "area methods," work. How rare is it to find another mossy stone radiating an energy Eevees can use? -- DeimelLongshot
* I've always wondered how you could see your Pokemon's Pokémon's condition. After seeing the Manga with translucent pokeballs, Poké Balls, all the times a trainer Trainer looked at their pokeballs Poké Balls in the anime, somehow seeing their Pokemon, Pokémon, made sense. It also explains how the player can see their Pokemon's Pokémon's stamina (health), condition, and so on. -- DeimelLongshot
** This troper always assumed the Pokedex Pokédex had a function that allowed it to read the energy in the pokeball Poké Ball and assert its readings into statistics for the owner.
* I just realized why the evil teams back off once you beat them. Imagine Pokemon Pokémon in a wild west setting. Everyones got a gun/Pokemon.gun/Pokémon. Everyone is walking around with a [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] hanging off their belt. With a limited amount of bullets. You get in a fight with a baddie and you out shoot them, knocking their gun from their hand or they use up all their bullets. There you are, gun out, bullets loaded, and they have nothing. Gen V establishes that there are no guns, so Pokemon Pokémon are weapons for evil teams. You have Pokemon Pokémon at strength and theirs are gone. Would you mess with someone who has just disarmed you and can make you their next target? --MayBeThomas



--> [[Film/DirtyHarry "Now, I know what you're thinking: Did I use five Pokemon or six?"]]
* Does it ever bother you that the levels of wild Pokemon are increasing with your travels? That it seems like the Pokemon's levels are conveniently rising as you progress? Like the Pokemon decided that you'd be fighting them ahead of time and planned their homes with your route in mind? Well if so, you're thinking of things backward. The Pokemon didn't plan their habitat around your travel routes, the travel routes were planned around where the more dangerous Pokemon are. The League likely put the Gyms in order of how dangerous the wildlife in the area was to help travelers train.

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--> [[Film/DirtyHarry "Now, I know what you're thinking: Did I use five Pokemon Pokémon or six?"]]
* Does it ever bother you that the levels of wild Pokemon Pokémon are increasing with your travels? That it seems like the Pokemon's Pokémon's levels are conveniently rising as you progress? Like the Pokemon Pokémon decided that you'd be fighting them ahead of time and planned their homes with your route in mind? Well if so, you're thinking of things backward. The Pokemon Pokémon didn't plan their habitat around your travel routes, the travel routes were planned around where the more dangerous Pokemon Pokémon are. The League likely put the Gyms in order of how dangerous the wildlife in the area was to help travelers train.



** On the contrary, this is actually not as bad as you think it may be: you only get the fishing rod from a foreign visitor. Maybe fishing is not as widely encouraged/restricted to only capable trainers ''because of this high level''.
** {{Jossed}} by [=B2W2=] due to Pinwheel Forest being filled with ungodly powerful Pokemon. Yet, that lends credence to a new theory. Pokemon like to fight, and in Gen IV, we learn that the man who killed Pokemon caused a code of honour of sorts to be formed. Pokemon in traveled areas may have a base code of honour - When they are low level, they are still too young to understand, but would be scared off by your high level mons later. The higher leveled ones, meanwhile, would start coming out, recognizing your strength. Why doesn't it go up in early routes, then? Ignoring the excuse of Gameplay and Story Segregation, it could be that they expect you to also follow this code of honour
* In Sinnoh, the two Pokemon Nosepass and Magneton can only evolve into their final forms by being leveled up in Mt. Coronet. In Unova, Chargestone Cave fills this role. That got me to wondering, why those two Pokemon? What do they have in common? Then, it hit me. Nosepass and Magneton are both associated with ''magnetism''. After all, Magneton is just a bunch of magnets, and Nosepass acts like a compass with its gigantic nose. Mt. Coronet has been explicitly stated to have an unusual magnetic field. Chargestone Cave has ''floating rocks'', so it must also have some interesting magnetic activity.

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** On the contrary, this is actually not as bad as you think it may be: you only get the fishing rod from a foreign visitor. Maybe fishing is not as widely encouraged/restricted to only capable trainers Trainers ''because of this high level''.
** {{Jossed}} by [=B2W2=] due to Pinwheel Forest being filled with ungodly powerful Pokemon.Pokémon. Yet, that lends credence to a new theory. Pokemon Pokémon like to fight, and in Gen IV, we learn that the man who killed Pokemon Pokémon caused a code of honour of sorts to be formed. Pokemon Pokémon in traveled areas may have a base code of honour - When they are low level, they are still too young to understand, but would be scared off by your high level mons later. The higher leveled ones, meanwhile, would start coming out, recognizing your strength. Why doesn't it go up in early routes, then? Ignoring the excuse of Gameplay and Story Segregation, it could be that they expect you to also follow this code of honour
* In Sinnoh, the two Pokemon Pokémon Nosepass and Magneton can only evolve into their final forms by being leveled up in Mt. Coronet. In Unova, Chargestone Cave fills this role. That got me to wondering, why those two Pokemon? Pokémon? What do they have in common? Then, it hit me. Nosepass and Magneton are both associated with ''magnetism''. After all, Magneton is just a bunch of magnets, and Nosepass acts like a compass with its gigantic nose. Mt. Coronet has been explicitly stated to have an unusual magnetic field. Chargestone Cave has ''floating rocks'', so it must also have some interesting magnetic activity.



* In a similar vein to the above Fridge Brilliance, it took me a while (and a little bit of research) to realize the connection between the three Pokemon that evolve from knowing [=AncientPower:=] Mamoswine looks like a mammoth (obviously), Yanmega is based off a prehistoric dragonfly called the ''Meganeura'', and Tangrowth is based off a caveman! ~khfan429
* Someone this troper knows provided a double Fridge Brilliance (for themselves and the actual troper). Koga is a Kanto Gym Leader and later in the Johto Elite Four. He specialises in Poison Pokemon, and is a ninja. In Japan, there's group of ninjas that identified as "Koka". Koka ninjas were experts in poison. They are also known as "Koga". Makes his name make more sense.

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* In a similar vein to the above Fridge Brilliance, it took me a while (and a little bit of research) to realize the connection between the three Pokemon Pokémon that evolve from knowing [=AncientPower:=] Mamoswine looks like a mammoth (obviously), Yanmega is based off a prehistoric dragonfly called the ''Meganeura'', and Tangrowth is based off a caveman! ~khfan429
* Someone this troper knows provided a double Fridge Brilliance (for themselves and the actual troper). Koga is a Kanto Gym Leader and later in the Johto Elite Four. He specialises in Poison Pokemon, Pokémon, and is a ninja. In Japan, there's group of ninjas that identified as "Koka". Koka ninjas were experts in poison. They are also known as "Koga". Makes his name make more sense.



* So I was on Serebii.net earlier tonight, and my eyes wandered over to the TCG section. I saw that Japan had gotten the Red Collection for the TCG, to round out your selection of available Pokemon. Then it hit me- sure, Victini is colored red, and it is one of the last Pokemon in the pack. But also, the color red in the Pokemon series...[[CallBack Doesn't it sound]] [[VideoGame/PokemonRedandBlue familiar]]?
* For the longest time, I've always wondered why certain Pokemon were either only available by either trade (mainly in R/B/Y with Farfetch'd, Jynx, and Mr.Mime) or were really rare (there were only two Snorlax in R/B/Y, one in G/S/C and there was only one Sudowoodo in G/S/C). But then it hit me, it's possible that these Pokemon aren't actually FROM the region that each game is set in. For instance, while there's only one Farfetch'd in R/B/Y (from the trade), you can actually catch them in G/S/C meaning that the guy might've just caught his there. Jynx was also catchable in the Ice Caves in Johto while there was only one in Kanto. This also works for Mr. Mime (you can find a lot of Mime Jr. in Sinnoh while Mr. Mime is only available through trade in R/B/Y and is hard to find in G/S/C), Snorlax (Munchlax is catchable in D/P/Pt and while they are rare, you can catch more than two), and Sudowoodo (similar to Mr. Mime, while there's only one in Johto, Bonsly are rather common in Sinnoh).

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* So I was on Serebii.net earlier tonight, and my eyes wandered over to the TCG section. I saw that Japan had gotten the Red Collection for the TCG, to round out your selection of available Pokemon. Pokémon. Then it hit me- sure, Victini is colored red, and it is one of the last Pokemon Pokémon in the pack. But also, the color red in the Pokemon Pokémon series...[[CallBack Doesn't it sound]] [[VideoGame/PokemonRedandBlue familiar]]?
* For the longest time, I've always wondered why certain Pokemon Pokémon were either only available by either trade (mainly in R/B/Y with Farfetch'd, Jynx, and Mr.Mime) or were really rare (there were only two Snorlax in R/B/Y, one in G/S/C and there was only one Sudowoodo in G/S/C). But then it hit me, it's possible that these Pokemon Pokémon aren't actually FROM the region that each game is set in. For instance, while there's only one Farfetch'd in R/B/Y (from the trade), you can actually catch them in G/S/C meaning that the guy might've just caught his there. Jynx was also catchable in the Ice Caves in Johto while there was only one in Kanto. This also works for Mr. Mime (you can find a lot of Mime Jr. in Sinnoh while Mr. Mime is only available through trade in R/B/Y and is hard to find in G/S/C), Snorlax (Munchlax is catchable in D/P/Pt and while they are rare, you can catch more than two), and Sudowoodo (similar to Mr. Mime, while there's only one in Johto, Bonsly are rather common in Sinnoh).



*** I had that same exact thought with Houndour/Houndoom. No wonder why Platinum was the only handheld game where you could catch one BEFORE beating the Elite Four. Houndour were never native to a named region to begin with (They were present in Orre in Pokemon XD, but not in Pokemon Colosseum). Then sometime between Diamond/Pearl and Platinum, someone probably released a bunch of Houndour/Houndoom into Sinnoh and then with breeding ... yeah.

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*** I had that same exact thought with Houndour/Houndoom. No wonder why Platinum was the only handheld game where you could catch one BEFORE beating the Elite Four. Houndour were never native to a named region to begin with (They were present in Orre in Pokemon Pokémon XD, but not in Pokemon Pokémon Colosseum). Then sometime between Diamond/Pearl and Platinum, someone probably released a bunch of Houndour/Houndoom into Sinnoh and then with breeding ... yeah.



* At first it seems strange that the only trainer you seem to battle in each generation with a full team is the champion. Then I realized that in each generation, you always encounter the champion long before you battle him or her. This would seem to indicate that the champion probably has traveled all over the region and has thus been able to obtain a full team. The other trainers you encounter(including the gym leaders) probably never leave their hometown(except when helping the hero battle the evil team), so they never have time to catch any more Pokemon.
* Just something about the games in general: [=NPCs=] are always telling the player about how much respect and love he has for his Pokémon. This seems a little strange, since the game is about him forcing them to fight other Pokémon for fun and profit. But when his whole party faints, he passes out and wakes up in the Pokémon Center. The player has such a strong emotional connection to his team that he literally collapses when they've been hurt too badly. Compared to other trainers, who stick around and sometimes even make jokes after you defeat their Pokemon, you really ''are'' the world's most caring trainer!
** I always thought all your pokemon fainting initiated one of those moments where your body goes into autopilot and you don't remember doing something. When your beloved mons all faint, you go into autopilot and run to the last pokemon center you remember going to. No stopping to chat or anything, just mad dashing to save them.
*** Bit of a headscratcher when that last Pokecenter is on a different island though.
* The original Pokemon games were originally based on the ''real'' world, examples; The origin of Mewtwo was that it was born from a genetic experiment on a Mew which was said to have 'given birth to', they even mention that Mew was found somewhere in South America. Lt Surge is explicitly mentioned that his nationality was American. Plus there's a model Columbia spaceship inside the Pewter Museum which was edited any mentioning of the ship's name itself and just called it a generic spaceship. (There was also the case of the RBY region being called Kanto; named after a real place in Japan)
** I assume that they Retconned the geography to remove any real world references, Mewtwo in the anime DID come from a cloning experiment....though they couldn't wipe Surge's Americanism away though, barring his gratuitous use of English in the manga and naming his traded Pokemon Volty. (That was a Pikachu in HG/SS...?), Pokemon probably turned out to be a giant success by the time G/S was almost released in Japan, proving that they were onto a cash cow and have to make their world more fantasy-based so that future games didn't seem TOO Japanese by using too well known references.
* This troper always wondered why Absol was classified as a Dark type Pokemon. Dark is normally associated with evil, and other Dark-types fit that description, but Absol doesn't, really. It actually tries to warn other people and pokemon of disaster. I later realized that Absol is classified that way because the Pokedex was compiled by humans! Even though the Absol were trying to help, the humans creating the pokedex saw Absol as signs of evil and doom, so of course they would classify it as a Dark type!

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* At first it seems strange that the only trainer Trainer you seem to battle in each generation with a full team is the champion. Then I realized that in each generation, you always encounter the champion long before you battle him or her. This would seem to indicate that the champion probably has traveled all over the region and has thus been able to obtain a full team. The other trainers Trainers you encounter(including the gym leaders) probably never leave their hometown(except when helping the hero battle the evil team), so they never have time to catch any more Pokemon.
Pokémon.
* Just something about the games in general: [=NPCs=] are always telling the player about how much respect and love he has for his Pokémon. This seems a little strange, since the game is about him forcing them to fight other Pokémon for fun and profit. But when his whole party faints, he passes out and wakes up in the Pokémon Center. The player has such a strong emotional connection to his team that he literally collapses when they've been hurt too badly. Compared to other trainers, Trainers, who stick around and sometimes even make jokes after you defeat their Pokemon, Pokémon, you really ''are'' the world's most caring trainer!
Trainer!
** I always thought all your pokemon Pokémon fainting initiated one of those moments where your body goes into autopilot and you don't remember doing something. When your beloved mons all faint, you go into autopilot and run to the last pokemon center Pokémon Center you remember going to. No stopping to chat or anything, just mad dashing to save them.
*** Bit of a headscratcher when that last Pokecenter Pokécenter is on a different island though.
* The original Pokemon Pokémon games were originally based on the ''real'' world, examples; The origin of Mewtwo was that it was born from a genetic experiment on a Mew which was said to have 'given birth to', they even mention that Mew was found somewhere in South America. Lt Surge is explicitly mentioned that his nationality was American. Plus there's a model Columbia spaceship inside the Pewter Museum which was edited any mentioning of the ship's name itself and just called it a generic spaceship. (There was also the case of the RBY region being called Kanto; named after a real place in Japan)
** I assume that they Retconned the geography to remove any real world references, Mewtwo in the anime DID come from a cloning experiment....though they couldn't wipe Surge's Americanism away though, barring his gratuitous use of English in the manga and naming his traded Pokemon Pokémon Volty. (That was a Pikachu in HG/SS...?), Pokemon Pokémon probably turned out to be a giant success by the time G/S was almost released in Japan, proving that they were onto a cash cow and have to make their world more fantasy-based so that future games didn't seem TOO Japanese by using too well known references.
* This troper always wondered why Absol was classified as a Dark type Pokemon.Dark-type Pokémon. Dark is normally associated with evil, and other Dark-types fit that description, but Absol doesn't, really. It actually tries to warn other people and pokemon Pokémon of disaster. I later realized that Absol is classified that way because the Pokedex Pokédex was compiled by humans! Even though the Absol were trying to help, the humans creating the pokedex Pokédex saw Absol as signs of evil and doom, so of course they would classify it as a Dark type!



** Also consider, Ash encountered Zekrom, which is the fate of the heroes who play Pokemon White. Naturally, N gets Reshiram, just like in White.
* I often wondered why pokemon obeyed their trainers. Then I thought about the Dragon Riders of Pern series and it hit me. Pokemon are all The Empath and are looking for humans to partner with to gain strength because they inherently recognize the need for that partnership the same way Dragons do. Battling a wild pokemon is literally "Impressing" them and pokeballs are usually necessary because they're empathy enhancers! This explains a number of things. It explains why you're usually 10 when you start as a trainer: It's the earliest age when most people are getting a sense of their empathy AND with puberty coming up their own emotions would be at a volatile point that pokemon would pick up and probably be more receptive to. It explains why not everyone is a trainer. Not everyone has the emotional strength to work with pokemon well. It also explains why some pokemon evolve by taming. It's not just taming, but a bond with their trainers. As well as in the show how pokemon can keep battling after they've taken so much damage: They're tapping in to their trainers belief that they can win and borrowing his/her strength. Then there's all the talk of trainers and pokemon being in sync with each other, and why trainers can be so tired and hungry after battles when they haven't done anything. They're bonded to their pokemon and thus are feeling their fatigue and hunger as their own.
* Why do pokemon learn moves earlier if they're unevolved? Well think about baby pokemon and how unevoled pokemon usually look more child-like than fully-evolved pokemon. They are like child versions of their evolved forms and children can learn things easier.

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** Also consider, Ash encountered Zekrom, which is the fate of the heroes who play Pokemon Pokémon White. Naturally, N gets Reshiram, just like in White.
* I often wondered why pokemon obeyed Why do Pokémon obey their trainers. Then I thought about the Dragon Riders of Pern series and it hit me. Pokemon Trainers? Maybe, Pokémon are all The Empath TheEmpath and are looking for humans to partner with to gain strength strength, because they inherently recognize the need for that partnership the same way Dragons do. Battling a wild pokemon Pokémon is literally "Impressing" "impressing" them and pokeballs Poké Balls are usually necessary because they're empathy enhancers! This explains a number of things. It explains why you're usually 10 when you start as a trainer: It's Trainer: it's the earliest age when most people are getting a sense of their empathy AND with puberty coming up their own emotions would be at a volatile point that pokemon Pokémon would pick up and probably be more receptive to. It explains why not everyone is a trainer. Trainer. Not everyone has the emotional strength to work with pokemon Pokémon well. It also explains why some pokemon Pokémon evolve by taming. It's not just taming, but a bond with their trainers. As well as Trainers. It explains how in the show how pokemon Pokémon can keep battling after they've taken so much damage: They're they're tapping in to their trainers Trainers' belief that they can win and borrowing his/her strength. Then there's all the talk of trainers Trainers and pokemon Pokémon being in sync with each other, and why trainers Trainers can be so tired and hungry after battles when they haven't done anything. They're bonded to their pokemon Pokémon and thus are feeling their fatigue and hunger as their own.
* Why do pokemon Pokémon learn moves earlier if they're unevolved? Well think about baby pokemon Pokémon and how unevoled pokemon Pokémon usually look more child-like than fully-evolved pokemon.Pokémon. They are like child versions of their evolved forms and children can learn things easier.



* Considering just how many Pokemon actually have surprisingly dark backgrounds and Pokedex descriptions (most Ghost-types, and a bunch of non-ghosts), who's to say the criminal organizations aren't just WellIntentionedExtremists? We know that Pokemon can be dangerous to humans, and the criminal organizations want to "steal" pokemon from trainers (and in the anime even succeed at stealing them from less skilled trainers). Knowing that Pokemon may attack unworthy trainers, the criminal organizations might just be trying to keep humans safe from the monsters.

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* Considering just how many Pokemon Pokémon actually have surprisingly dark backgrounds and Pokedex Pokédex descriptions (most Ghost-types, and a bunch of non-ghosts), who's to say the criminal organizations aren't just WellIntentionedExtremists? We know that Pokemon Pokémon can be dangerous to humans, and the criminal organizations want to "steal" pokemon Pokémon from trainers Trainers (and in the anime even succeed at stealing them from less skilled trainers). Trainers). Knowing that Pokemon Pokémon may attack unworthy trainers, Trainers, the criminal organizations might just be trying to keep humans safe from the monsters.



* Lt. Surge heavily implies that he killed people with his Electric-type Pokemon in ''(Fire)Red/Blue(Leaf Green) Versions''. [[http://m.chanarchive.org/4chan/v/6232/pokemon-und-der-dritte-reich The TCG didn't put him in a much better spot.]]
* Doubles as GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The female grunt uniforms for most of the main Team Badguys are skimpy as Pokemon gets. The leaders of these teams are healthy [[DirtyOldMan older gentlemen]] who are just a little nutty. The exception? Galactic Leader Cyrus, the emotionless shell of a man, who dresses both his ladies and gentlemen in full uniform, complete with long sleeves and high collars, and heavy-looking leggings for the girls. Team Flare Grunts actually avert this trope as well, as the female grunts are dressed very similarly to the male grunts. With the exception of Jupiter, but admins seem to get to choose their own uniforms.

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* Lt. Surge heavily implies that he killed people with his Electric-type Pokemon Pokémon in ''(Fire)Red/Blue(Leaf Green) Versions''. [[http://m.chanarchive.org/4chan/v/6232/pokemon-und-der-dritte-reich The TCG didn't put him in a much better spot.]]
* Doubles as GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The female grunt uniforms for most of the main Team Badguys are skimpy as Pokemon Pokémon gets. The leaders of these teams are healthy [[DirtyOldMan older gentlemen]] who are just a little nutty. The exception? Galactic Leader Cyrus, the emotionless shell of a man, who dresses both his ladies and gentlemen in full uniform, complete with long sleeves and high collars, and heavy-looking leggings for the girls. Team Flare Grunts actually avert this trope as well, as the female grunts are dressed very similarly to the male grunts. With the exception of Jupiter, but admins seem to get to choose their own uniforms.



** Unlikely. A better reason for the uniform choices of Team Plasma would be along the lines of RuleOfSymbolism or FauxSymbolism as they are claiming to be [[AnimalWrongsGroup attempting to liberate Pokémon from their unworthy trainers]]. What better costume to support this message than that of a knight in shining armor?

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** Unlikely. A better reason for the uniform choices of Team Plasma would be along the lines of RuleOfSymbolism or FauxSymbolism as they are claiming to be [[AnimalWrongsGroup attempting to liberate Pokémon from their unworthy trainers]].Trainers]]. What better costume to support this message than that of a knight in shining armor?



** The Pokédex makes even more sense once you realise that the descriptions given in it aren't cataloguing facts about the pokémon, but myths, beliefs and urban legends about them. Yamask isn't really the spirit of a dead human, Spoink doesn't die if it stops bouncing, Cubone's skull helmet isn't actually the skull of its dead mother, and Electrodes don't absorb so much electricity from lightning that they all start Exploding - [[FridgeBrilliance no, that's just people believing that to be the source of the delayed boom from lightning]].
* In most games, [[DudeWheresMyRespect very few people will recognize your achievements for saving the region from the villainous team, or winning the Pokemon League.]] This starts to get downplayed from VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2, which more people recognize you as the Champion, and with VideoGame/PokemonXAndY, which throws a huge parade for you. This can be partially attributed to [[WelcomeToCorneria gameplay]] [[StoryAndGameplaySegregation script issues]] being progressively addressed, but it's also worth noting the cultures of the real-life equivalent of said regions. The Black/White series are based in the United States, with X and Y based on France. The rest of the main games are based in Japan. What is a proverb in Japan showing the prevalent mentality of the Japanese, that is relatively discouraged (though can still exist) for the Americans and the French? [[TallPoppySyndrome "A stake sticking out will be struck down."]]
* Later generations, starting around the Hoenn/Kanto Remake games, featured move tutors and move relearners, in addition to the move deleter from the previous generation. The tutors and relearners can teach Pokemon moves that they used to know or can learn at later stages. However, they are more utilized to teach moves that are not part of the normal move set or even a part of their hidden move set (look at the moves that starter Pokemon can "remember" from the relearner after reaching their final stage of evolution). Combine this with the complaints about Lance's Dragon Pokemon having illegal moves and the possibility of getting a Extremespeed Dratini from the Dragon's Den in HGSS. This could imply that there are other move tutors in the world of Pokemon that can teach Pokemon moves they would not naturally know. However, they probably treat their methods as secret and only pass on the knowledge and techniques to worthy students or successors.
* Meta-example. Why have there been no third games (Gray, Z, DeltaEmrald) in the newer sets of games? Because the games were meant to be released in duos (Red and Blue/Green, Gold and Silver). Pokemon Yellow and Crystal were not part of their original packages. If anyone has a case or cartage for Yellow, it says that it's a special edition game. Games like Crystal and Emerald seemed to be there to test new waters (respectively some new game staples and a larger story), but weren't meant to be lumped in with their gen's earlier games. The Pokemon games were never meant to be released as trios, just duos.
** Unlikely. BW and [=B2W2=] were specifically stated as "pushing the envelope" when it came to the three-game format for main games, where there would usually be Grey/Gray to finish the trio. Delta Emerald, cool as it would be, didn't happen because they've never remade the third game when doing remakes (there's no Electric Yellow or Mind Crystal). Z, however, is on its way. [=CoroCoro=] leaks have given us new Zygarde formes and the title of the next part of the anime- "Pokemon XY & Z". Z is all but officially announced.

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** The Pokédex makes even more sense once you realise that the descriptions given in it aren't cataloguing facts about the pokémon, Pokémon, but myths, beliefs and urban legends about them. Yamask isn't really the spirit of a dead human, Spoink doesn't die if it stops bouncing, Cubone's skull helmet isn't actually the skull of its dead mother, and Electrodes don't absorb so much electricity from lightning that they all start Exploding - [[FridgeBrilliance no, that's just people believing that to be the source of the delayed boom from lightning]].
* In most games, [[DudeWheresMyRespect very few people will recognize your achievements for saving the region from the villainous team, or winning the Pokemon Pokémon League.]] This starts to get downplayed from VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2, which more people recognize you as the Champion, and with VideoGame/PokemonXAndY, which throws a huge parade for you. This can be partially attributed to [[WelcomeToCorneria gameplay]] [[StoryAndGameplaySegregation script issues]] being progressively addressed, but it's also worth noting the cultures of the real-life equivalent of said regions. The Black/White series are based in the United States, with X and Y based on France. The rest of the main games are based in Japan. What is a proverb in Japan showing the prevalent mentality of the Japanese, that is relatively discouraged (though can still exist) for the Americans and the French? [[TallPoppySyndrome "A stake sticking out will be struck down."]]
* Later generations, starting around the Hoenn/Kanto Remake games, featured move tutors and move relearners, in addition to the move deleter from the previous generation. The tutors and relearners can teach Pokemon Pokémon moves that they used to know or can learn at later stages. However, they are more utilized to teach moves that are not part of the normal move set or even a part of their hidden move set (look at the moves that starter Pokemon Pokémon can "remember" from the relearner after reaching their final stage of evolution). Combine this with the complaints about Lance's Dragon Pokemon Pokémon having illegal moves and the possibility of getting a Extremespeed Dratini from the Dragon's Den in HGSS. This could imply that there are other move tutors in the world of Pokemon Pokémon that can teach Pokemon Pokémon moves they would not naturally know. However, they probably treat their methods as secret and only pass on the knowledge and techniques to worthy students or successors.
* Meta-example. Why have there been no third games (Gray, Z, DeltaEmrald) in the newer sets of games? Because the games were meant to be released in duos (Red and Blue/Green, Gold and Silver). Pokemon Pokémon Yellow and Crystal were not part of their original packages. If anyone has a case or cartage for Yellow, it says that it's a special edition game. Games like Crystal and Emerald seemed to be there to test new waters (respectively some new game staples and a larger story), but weren't meant to be lumped in with their gen's earlier games. The Pokemon Pokémon games were never meant to be released as trios, just duos.
** Unlikely. BW and [=B2W2=] were specifically stated as "pushing the envelope" when it came to the three-game format for main games, where there would usually be Grey/Gray to finish the trio. Delta Emerald, cool as it would be, didn't happen because they've never remade the third game when doing remakes (there's no Electric Yellow or Mind Crystal). Z, however, is on its way. [=CoroCoro=] leaks have given us new Zygarde formes and the title of the next part of the anime- "Pokemon "Pokémon XY & Z". Z is all but officially announced.



* The addition of Pokemarts into the Pokemon Centers may have been meant to explain why Pokemon Centers don't expect pay--they get all their funding from the purchases made at the marts!

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* The addition of Pokemarts Poké Marts into the Pokemon Pokémon Centers may have been meant to explain why Pokemon Pokémon Centers don't expect pay--they get all their funding from the purchases made at the marts!



** Not really, seeing as they are sentient creatures quite capable of (and not necessarily averse to) killing humans. They are not being enslaved and they obey their trainers by choice. Only a few humans treat them as slaves, but those are usually the villains.
*** Evident by the fact that they do disobey trainers who haven't proved themselves worthy, collecting gym badges for example. But even then they're usually more apathetic and grouchy rather than turn on their trainers. Pokemon have free will but choose to serve trainers they respect.
** Think of it more like wrestling... with elemental powers. At least in the games the pokémon actually get happier if you battle so... they enjoy it??
** Note that Pokemon are G-Rated [[BloodKnight blood knights.]]
** The core fridge horror of all Pokemon games, white-washed for the sake of being kid-friendly, is that Pokemon can and do attack people who are not trainers. With potentially terrible results. They are Pocket MONSTERS, after all. Remember back in Gen I, when Oak comes rushing in when you try to venture into the grass? Does that not come off like an adult trying to stop a kid from sticking a fork in a wall socket?
** Pokemon basically has a version of the Yu-Gi-Oh problem; the franchise generally lacks the worldbuilding to incorporate the idea that these monsters can and do cause effects in the world they live in. Pokemon have incredibly violent powers that are primarily designed to cause damage, so we could argue that (leading back into Brilliance above), the League and Trainers exist to prevent Pokemon from causing too much damage to themselves or the environment around them. Also, the only ''enslavement'' argument really valid is in the use of the Master Ball, which automatically forces a capture (note: we never really learn the nature of the conversation between Giovanni and the Silph Chief; was it a contract dispute that Giovanni was trying to settle with a show of force?), and you could possibly make an argument even for that (if you felt ballsy enough) as a weapon of last-resort.
** One issue is that Pokemon almost always require fighting in order to catch. These things will fight to stay free until they fall unconscious, yet after they are captured they suddenly out of the blue are more than willing to do what the trainer says 9 times out of 10. True, some Pokemon refuse to obey their trainers, but they don't attempt to escape again. The whole thing definitely sounds like brainwashing or Stockholm Syndrome or something along those lines.
* Pokemon are creatures with dangerous powers, and their trainers are usually children. What happens if a pokemon doesn't like its trainer and turns those powers on it? [[CruelAndUnusualDeath Incinerated, crushed, stabbed, drowned...]]
** If the anime is anything to go by, Pokemon attacks seem to be very painful, but not that harmful. Plenty of characters have been shown to be attacked and while they didn't enjoy it and came out hurt, they all survived it with no long-term injury. The games also never really mention cases about pokemon or humans killed by pokemon, injuries do happen though.

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** Not really, seeing as they are sentient creatures quite capable of (and not necessarily averse to) killing humans. They are not being enslaved and they obey their trainers Trainers by choice. Only a few humans treat them as slaves, but those are usually the villains.
*** Evident by the fact that they do disobey trainers Trainers who haven't proved themselves worthy, collecting gym badges for example. But even then they're usually more apathetic and grouchy rather than turn on their trainers. Pokemon Trainers. Pokémon have free will but choose to serve trainers Trainers they respect.
** Think of it more like wrestling... with elemental powers. At least in the games the pokémon Pokémon actually get happier if you battle so... they enjoy it??
** Note that Pokemon Pokémon are G-Rated [[BloodKnight blood knights.]]
** The core fridge horror of all Pokemon Pokémon games, white-washed for the sake of being kid-friendly, is that Pokemon Pokémon can and do attack people who are not trainers.Trainers. With potentially terrible results. They are Pocket MONSTERS, after all. Remember back in Gen I, when Oak comes rushing in when you try to venture into the grass? Does that not come off like an adult trying to stop a kid from sticking a fork in a wall socket?
** Pokemon Pokémon basically has a version of the Yu-Gi-Oh problem; the franchise generally lacks the worldbuilding to incorporate the idea that these monsters can and do cause effects in the world they live in. Pokemon Pokémon have incredibly violent powers that are primarily designed to cause damage, so we could argue that (leading back into Brilliance above), the League and Trainers exist to prevent Pokemon Pokémon from causing too much damage to themselves or the environment around them. Also, the only ''enslavement'' argument really valid is in the use of the Master Ball, which automatically forces a capture (note: we never really learn the nature of the conversation between Giovanni and the Silph Chief; was it a contract dispute that Giovanni was trying to settle with a show of force?), and you could possibly make an argument even for that (if you felt ballsy enough) as a weapon of last-resort.
** One issue is that Pokemon Pokémon almost always require fighting in order to catch. These things will fight to stay free until they fall unconscious, yet after they are captured they suddenly out of the blue are more than willing to do what the trainer Trainer says 9 times out of 10. True, some Pokemon Pokémon refuse to obey their trainers, Trainers, but they don't attempt to escape again. The whole thing definitely sounds like brainwashing or Stockholm Syndrome or something along those lines.
* Pokemon Pokémon are creatures with dangerous powers, and their trainers Trainers are usually children. What happens if a pokemon Pokémon doesn't like its trainer Trainer and turns those powers on it? [[CruelAndUnusualDeath Incinerated, crushed, stabbed, drowned...]]
** If the anime is anything to go by, Pokemon Pokémon attacks seem to be very painful, but not that harmful. Plenty of characters have been shown to be attacked and while they didn't enjoy it and came out hurt, they all survived it with no long-term injury. The games also never really mention cases about pokemon Pokémon or humans killed by pokemon, Pokémon, injuries do happen though.



* Some pokedex entries, especially in earlier games, are hilariously specific ("It happened one morning - a boy with extrasensory powers awoke in bed transformed into Kadabra").
** Likewise, almost every game contains legendary Pokemon that have very dramatic backstories that imply only one of their kind has ever existed. Yet through trading with real-world friends, you can build a whole team of them.

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* Some pokedex Pokédex entries, especially in earlier games, are hilariously specific ("It happened one morning - a boy with extrasensory powers awoke in bed transformed into Kadabra").
** Likewise, almost every game contains legendary Pokemon Pokémon that have very dramatic backstories that imply only one of their kind has ever existed. Yet through trading with real-world friends, you can build a whole team of them.



** Considering that animals have been known to attack one another in the wild for territorial reasons, and that it's not unusual for certain species to eat each one another via cannibalism, I don't think most Pokémon would be too concerned if another one of their own species or family member attacked one another. They'd be more inclined to attack to protect their territory than to save a loved one. Plus, it's implied in the games that being captured by a worthy trainer is a sign of honor and respect among Pokémon.
*** Actually wild Pokémon apparently hate Pokémon with trainers, as seen in the first episode of the anime.

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** Considering that animals have been known to attack one another in the wild for territorial reasons, and that it's not unusual for certain species to eat each one another via cannibalism, I don't think most Pokémon would be too concerned if another one of their own species or family member attacked one another. They'd be more inclined to attack to protect their territory than to save a loved one. Plus, it's implied in the games that being captured by a worthy trainer Trainer is a sign of honor and respect among Pokémon.
*** Actually wild Pokémon apparently hate Pokémon with trainers, Trainers, as seen in the first episode of the anime.



*** Actually, Dr. Footstep in ''Diamond'', ''Pearl'' and ''Platinum'' will, at a certain friendship level, mention your Pokemon saying this[[note]]This is specifically by the "tough" Pokemon[[/note]] "Some wild Pokémon frown upon others for traveling with humans. They jeer that the caught Pokémon have "forgotten the wild." But that view is mistaken. They have just never met a Trainer who could be a great partner. A great partner like [Player Name Here], in other words..." which lends some credence to the "wild Pokémon dislike Pokémon with trainers"-theory from the anime.

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*** Actually, Dr. Footstep in ''Diamond'', ''Pearl'' and ''Platinum'' will, at a certain friendship level, mention your Pokemon Pokémon saying this[[note]]This is specifically by the "tough" Pokemon[[/note]] Pokémon[[/note]] "Some wild Pokémon frown upon others for traveling with humans. They jeer that the caught Pokémon have "forgotten the wild." But that view is mistaken. They have just never met a Trainer who could be a great partner. A great partner like [Player Name Here], in other words..." which lends some credence to the "wild Pokémon dislike Pokémon with trainers"-theory Trainers"-theory from the anime.



* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon absorbs solar radiation into its body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Death rays that can cause Nuclear Armageddon or worse.
* Classification and effects of some moves in Contests are a little disturbing, but probably the worst is Frustration. This move is stronger if Pokemon dislikes his trainer... and is classified in Contests as cute move. Basically, Pokemon thinks about his trainer, about all abuse and neglect from him, about how powerless he is to do antyhing about it, and just thinking is enough to [[{{Unstoppable Rage}} make him ram everything on his path in a blind fury.]] And judges find it CUTE! Just what kind of monsters are they!?

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* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon Pokémon absorbs solar radiation into its body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Death rays that can cause Nuclear Armageddon or worse.
* Classification and effects of some moves in Contests are a little disturbing, but probably the worst is Frustration. This move is stronger if Pokemon Pokémon dislikes his trainer...Trainer... and is classified in Contests as cute move. Basically, Pokemon Pokémon thinks about his trainer, Trainer, about all abuse and neglect from him, about how powerless he is to do antyhing about it, and just thinking is enough to [[{{Unstoppable Rage}} make him ram everything on his path in a blind fury.]] And judges find it CUTE! Just what kind of monsters are they!?



* The abilities Insomnia and Vital Spirit render the Pokemon unable to fall asleep. But it's not limited to the enemy attacks, as the Pokemon can't go to sleep even if it uses a sleep-inducing move on itself! Are they actually unable to sleep altogether...?
** Insomnia is only held by pokèmon who are nocturnal (Hoothoot, Murkrow, etc.), so their sleeping pattern would be off compared to other pokèmon. Vital Spirit is held by rambunctious fighting types who don't ''dare'' fall asleep - they want to fight too badly.

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* The abilities Insomnia and Vital Spirit render the Pokemon Pokémon unable to fall asleep. But it's not limited to the enemy attacks, as the Pokemon Pokémon can't go to sleep even if it uses a sleep-inducing move on itself! Are they actually unable to sleep altogether...?
** Insomnia is only held by pokèmon Pokèmon who are nocturnal (Hoothoot, Murkrow, etc.), so their sleeping pattern would be off compared to other pokèmon.Pokèmon. Vital Spirit is held by rambunctious fighting types who don't ''dare'' fall asleep - they want to fight too badly.



* Remember the S.S. Anne? The luxury liner that sails the world? As we know, it's never come back (even in G/S/C and its remakes, where it is replaced by another ship). In R/S/E, you come across the Abandoned Ship, which is, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin abandoned]]. Here's my idea. The Abandoned Ship is the S.S. Anne. It was on its way to Hoenn when it crashed. It began to take in water, [[NightmareFuel perhaps some passengers (and unsuspecting Pokemon) drowned]], while others (probably those who had Water-types) made it out alive. - Ahatake5000

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* Remember the S.S. Anne? The luxury liner that sails the world? As we know, it's never come back (even in G/S/C and its remakes, where it is replaced by another ship). In R/S/E, you come across the Abandoned Ship, which is, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin abandoned]]. Here's my idea. The Abandoned Ship is the S.S. Anne. It was on its way to Hoenn when it crashed. It began to take in water, [[NightmareFuel perhaps some passengers (and unsuspecting Pokemon) Pokémon) drowned]], while others (probably those who had Water-types) made it out alive. - Ahatake5000



* A ''ton'' of battles in the anime and in the games have Pokemon getting knocked out. Obviously to a child this is bad, but not necessarily devastating. The Pokemon's just going to sleep as far as they know. But once you learn more about health and anatomy you realize that these Pokemon are taking hits serious enough to knock them unconscious. In other words, it is entirely possible for the majority of human-owned to be suffering from brain damage, internal bleeding and major damage to their organs because they live in a world with irresponsible trainers and a healthcare system of one girl and a few Chansey's per town. And that's not even getting into the long term affects of being repeatedly poisoned, burned and electrocuted. It's a wonder if the Pokemon you have will make it past their equivalent to middle age.
** Except that if you check on the Pokemon after its fainted it'll say that it has no energy left to right so its not necessarily knocked out unconscious. Just lost too much energy to fight. Also in the anime, they'll just dizzy for a sec and is still conscious and can utter sad moans. Most often seen with Pikachu.
** The healing at the Pokemon Centers might also be able to heal any brain/organ damage done so that the Pokemon don't have long-term effects, and the same would go for any item that revives a Pokemon. Pokemon are obviously much sturdier than real-life creatures and probably heal quicker and easier too. The above idea that it simply means the Pokemon is unable to battle but is still conscious is also hinted at by the fact that "fainted" Pokemon can still use field moves like Surf and Fly.
* The Pokemon have short lifespans, sure, but what about their Trainers? A lot of registered trainers are around 10 or 11 years old when they start their official journeys, and we don't know how they got to actually obtain a license to train Pokemon (except for in the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon_Trainer%27s_License Electric Tale of Pikachu manga]].) I highly doubt that every single one of those children has been taught a full arsenal of wilderness survival skills, or that they all know how to actually take care of themselves properly. Injuries could occur very easily, or the kid could get lost and vanish, or they could not have proper nutrition. Even car accidents (cars exist in the anime and manga) could be a very credible threat to a kid travelling with his team of trained monsters. Any number of things could happen to a kid on his journey, dangerous things. ''Don't these kids' parents '''realize''' this''? What eleven year old is ready to live on their own? Really? This always bothered me as a kid - I get the feeling that the number of Pokemon-journey-related deaths is underreported, and almost certainly glossed over by the media (the society glorifies Pokemon training, for chrissakes!). God, all those poor parents who wouldn't know what happened to their son or daughter...
** Except the fact that parents are so nonchalant about going on a journey says that perhaps they DO have some survival skills. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of special courses that would be trainers take to prepare them for this sort of thing.
** It's heavily implied in the games that the routes you take in the games are pathways specifically created for trainers to get from Point A to Point B as quickly and safely as possible. Likewise, you can still visit (or call in some games) your mom and let her know you're okay. Not to mention that (at least in the ''Electric Tale Of Pikachu'' Manga) you have to pass a test before you can start your journey as a Pokemon trainer. Plus, going outside and going (relatively) far away from home is/was rather ''normal'' for many children.
* In most games, whenever you go the the Pokémon center to heal up, Nurse Joy responds "We hope to see you again!" Seems like an odd thing to say, doesn't it? Well, let's consider that you are of primary school-age (secondary school-age in some games) out on your own in a nigh-on DeathWorld under constant fire by massive criminal organizations, each with a special plan for this world. It's at this point one realizes: Nurse Joy hopes to see you again because, to be frank, it shows her you're still ''alive.''

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* A ''ton'' of battles in the anime and in the games have Pokemon Pokémon getting knocked out. Obviously to a child this is bad, but not necessarily devastating. The Pokemon's Pokémon's just going to sleep as far as they know. But once you learn more about health and anatomy you realize that these Pokemon Pokémon are taking hits serious enough to knock them unconscious. In other words, it is entirely possible for the majority of human-owned to be suffering from brain damage, internal bleeding and major damage to their organs because they live in a world with irresponsible trainers Trainers and a healthcare system of one girl and a few Chansey's per town. And that's not even getting into the long term affects of being repeatedly poisoned, burned and electrocuted. It's a wonder if the Pokemon Pokémon you have will make it past their equivalent to middle age.
** Except that if you check on the Pokemon Pokémon after its it's fainted it'll say that it has no energy left to right so its not necessarily knocked out unconscious. Just lost too much energy to fight. Also in the anime, they'll just dizzy for a sec and is still conscious and can utter sad moans. Most often seen with Pikachu.
** The healing at the Pokemon Pokémon Centers might also be able to heal any brain/organ damage done so that the Pokemon Pokémon don't have long-term effects, and the same would go for any item that revives a Pokemon. Pokemon Pokémon. Pokémon are obviously much sturdier than real-life creatures and probably heal quicker and easier too. The above idea that it simply means the Pokemon Pokémon is unable to battle but is still conscious is also hinted at by the fact that "fainted" Pokemon Pokémon can still use field moves like Surf and Fly.
* The Pokemon Pokémon have short lifespans, sure, but what about their Trainers? A lot of registered trainers Trainers are around 10 or 11 years old when they start their official journeys, and we don't know how they got to actually obtain a license to train Pokemon Pokémon (except for in the [[http://bulbapedia.[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon_Trainer%27s_License net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Trainer%27s_license Electric Tale of Pikachu manga]].) I highly doubt that every single one of those children has been taught a full arsenal of wilderness survival skills, or that they all know how to actually take care of themselves properly. Injuries could occur very easily, or the kid could get lost and vanish, or they could not have proper nutrition. Even car accidents (cars exist in the anime and manga) could be a very credible threat to a kid travelling with his team of trained monsters. Any number of things could happen to a kid on his journey, dangerous things. ''Don't these kids' parents '''realize''' this''? What eleven year old is ready to live on their own? Really? This always bothered me as a kid - I get the feeling that the number of Pokemon-journey-related Pokémon-journey-related deaths is underreported, and almost certainly glossed over by the media (the society glorifies Pokemon Pokémon training, for chrissakes!). God, all those poor parents who wouldn't know what happened to their son or daughter...
** Except the fact that parents are so nonchalant about going on a journey says that perhaps they DO have some survival skills. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of special courses that would be trainers Trainers take to prepare them for this sort of thing.
** It's heavily implied in the games that the routes you take in the games are pathways specifically created for trainers Trainers to get from Point A to Point B as quickly and safely as possible. Likewise, you can still visit (or call in some games) your mom and let her know you're okay. Not to mention that (at least in the ''Electric Tale Of Pikachu'' Manga) you have to pass a test before you can start your journey as a Pokemon trainer.Pokémon Trainer. Plus, going outside and going (relatively) far away from home is/was rather ''normal'' for many children.
* In most games, whenever you go the the Pokémon center Center to heal up, Nurse Joy responds "We hope to see you again!" Seems like an odd thing to say, doesn't it? Well, let's consider that you are of primary school-age (secondary school-age in some games) out on your own in a nigh-on DeathWorld under constant fire by massive criminal organizations, each with a special plan for this world. It's at this point one realizes: Nurse Joy hopes to see you again because, to be frank, it shows her you're still ''alive.''



** Or she could know that you have Pokemon who can fly you to any other town and she hopes that the next time you need to have them healed you chose hers.

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** Or she could know that you have Pokemon Pokémon who can fly you to any other town and she hopes that the next time you need to have them healed you chose hers.



* For the longest time I was mystified by the way Rockets would instantly surrender to a ten year old boy after losing a simple sporting creature duel. Years later it occurred to me: after taking down all their Pokemon, who's gonna be your level 38 Charizard's next target if he doesn't surrender? Now consider the potential innocent irresponsibility of a child!
** Actually, in the Johto games, Lance orders his Lv. 40. Dragonite to use Hyper Beam on a Rocket Grunt. Of course, being hit by THAT would probably be enough to send someone flying through a wall, and probably break quite a few things in their body- But the Grunt is only sent flying across the room and seems to only somewhat hurt when you talk to him. In other words, the trainer can make their Pokémon limit the power when they use it. The horror in a naïve child's potential misuse of this and the power of this in the wrong hands ([[spoiler: Almost seen in B2/W2 with Ghetsis outright attacking the player character with Kyure]]) still stands, though.

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* For the longest time I was mystified by the way Rockets would instantly surrender to a ten year old boy after losing a simple sporting creature duel. Years later it occurred to me: after taking down all their Pokemon, Pokémon, who's gonna be your level 38 Charizard's next target if he doesn't surrender? Now consider the potential innocent irresponsibility of a child!
** Actually, in the Johto games, Lance orders his Lv. 40. Dragonite to use Hyper Beam on a Rocket Grunt. Of course, being hit by THAT would probably be enough to send someone flying through a wall, and probably break quite a few things in their body- But the Grunt is only sent flying across the room and seems to only somewhat hurt when you talk to him. In other words, the trainer Trainer can make their Pokémon limit the power when they use it. The horror in a naïve child's potential misuse of this and the power of this in the wrong hands ([[spoiler: Almost seen in B2/W2 with Ghetsis outright attacking the player character with Kyure]]) still stands, though.



** They are not all replaced by Pokemon. They never said they were. There are clearly plants from our world in the game such as the trees and grass and in PMD there are apple trees, so clearly there are edible plants in the Pokemon world for us that are the same as the ones here. There are also animals in the Pokemon world, they aren't the dominant species, but in a few episodes of the anime, there have been real animals spotted, which also explains why they say some are called 'mouse' Pokemon in the Pokedex for instance. They either resemble, or evolved from ordinary animals into different species.

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** They are not all replaced by Pokemon.Pokémon. They never said they were. There are clearly plants from our world in the game such as the trees and grass and in PMD there are apple trees, so clearly there are edible plants in the Pokemon Pokémon world for us that are the same as the ones here. There are also animals in the Pokemon Pokémon world, they aren't the dominant species, but in a few episodes of the anime, there have been real animals spotted, which also explains why they say some are called 'mouse' Pokemon Pokémon in the Pokedex Pokédex for instance. They either resemble, or evolved from ordinary animals into different species.



*** `...are more common than you'd think. Your character eats pokèmon dishes '''onscreen''' in ''X & Y'', in the Lumiose City restaurants. ~ Tropers/BaffleBend

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*** `...are more common than you'd think. Your character eats pokèmon Pokèmon dishes '''onscreen''' in ''X & Y'', in the Lumiose City restaurants. ~ Tropers/BaffleBend



** Some Pokemon are clearly eaten. There are numerous references in the games to Slowpoke's tail being delicious (it's even a item in some games), and the pokedex entry for Farfetch'd says it's almost extinct because of people eating them along with their leaks. According to other Pokedex entries Tropius's fruit is eaten and so are Chansey and Blissey eggs, but I assume probably not fertilized eggs. This is conjecture, but I think some plant Pokemon have removable parts that can be eaten without harm. Perhaps an Oddish's head leaves would be like lettuce? Maybe a Bulbasaur's sap would be good on pancakes?
*** Oddish and Bulbasaur are both poison types. They wouldn't make a good meal, but I'd like to imagine that there are other undocumented Pokemon that are clearly eaten (like a broccoli Pokemon).
** In ''Videogame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', in a similar vein to slowpokes tails, the Moon entry for Crabrawler says: "It punches so much, its pincers often come off from overuse, but they grow back quickly. What little meat they contain is rich and delicious." so there's a sort of crab meat/seafood item. Slowpoke tails are also mentioned to be a part of Alolan home cooking (made into a stew). A somewhat more questionable (and perhaps purposly vague) source of animal proteins are the "Fresh fillets/Frozen lean cuts/ and Leftover ''fish'' tips" for sale (but not actually available to the player character) in the Thrifty Megamart. It's possible that besides berry orchards/farms, there's farms for Pokemon that can have parts of their body harvested without lasting harm, like Crabrawler pincers, Slowpoke tails, Tropius fruits, etc.
* At least in the anime, most Pokémon are shown to at least be intelligent enough to have their own languages, and are able to communicate complex ideas amongst each other and sometimes to their human trainers. So, trainers are capturing and enslaving sentient beings and [[KickTheDog forcing them to fight each other]] [[MoralEventHorizon endlessly]]. How do you think that would go over if one human did it to another human?

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** Some Pokemon Pokémon are clearly eaten. There are numerous references in the games to Slowpoke's tail being delicious (it's even a item in some games), and the pokedex Pokédex entry for Farfetch'd says it's almost extinct because of people eating them along with their leaks. According to other Pokedex Pokédex entries Tropius's fruit is eaten and so are Chansey and Blissey eggs, but I assume probably not fertilized eggs. This is conjecture, but I think some plant Pokemon Pokémon have removable parts that can be eaten without harm. Perhaps an Oddish's head leaves would be like lettuce? Maybe a Bulbasaur's sap would be good on pancakes?
*** Oddish and Bulbasaur are both poison types. They wouldn't make a good meal, but I'd like to imagine that there are other undocumented Pokemon Pokémon that are clearly eaten (like a broccoli Pokemon).Pokémon).
** In ''Videogame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', in a similar vein to slowpokes Slowpoke's tails, the Moon entry for Crabrawler says: "It punches so much, its pincers often come off from overuse, but they grow back quickly. What little meat they contain is rich and delicious." so there's a sort of crab meat/seafood item. Slowpoke tails are also mentioned to be a part of Alolan home cooking (made into a stew). A somewhat more questionable (and perhaps purposly vague) source of animal proteins are the "Fresh fillets/Frozen lean cuts/ and Leftover ''fish'' tips" for sale (but not actually available to the player character) in the Thrifty Megamart. It's possible that besides berry orchards/farms, there's farms for Pokemon Pokémon that can have parts of their body harvested without lasting harm, like Crabrawler pincers, Slowpoke tails, Tropius fruits, etc.
* At least in the anime, most Pokémon are shown to at least be intelligent enough to have their own languages, and are able to communicate complex ideas amongst each other and sometimes to their human trainers. Trainers. So, trainers Trainers are capturing and enslaving sentient beings and [[KickTheDog forcing them to fight each other]] [[MoralEventHorizon endlessly]]. How do you think that would go over if one human did it to another human?



* Breeding is seriously screwed up in these games. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential You can force a baby Pokemon to breed moments after its birth, often with a member of its own family]]. I for instance, remember breeding (for IV and egg move purposes) a male level 100 Dragonite with his newborn level 1 Gible granddaughter, letting him impregnate the little girl with ''several'' eggs before being satisfied with the result. Then, after discarding (releasing) all of her extra children and keeping only one for myself, I proceeded to release ''her'' as well, as she was taking up too much box space. Yeah, that's right. I pretty much took a baby girl, forced her to bear a load of children with an old man, threw away most of her babies, and when she finally produced the offspring I wanted, I kept her last child for myself and told her to beat it. And to top it off, I used her one surviving child as the equivalent of a pit fighter. I mean, correct me if I'm looking too much into this, but there just seems to be something fundamentally creepy about Pokemon breeding.
** This troper herself has a breeding story of her own. I hate using Ditto for breeding (It seems like the easy way out to me), so I crossbreed when I can. One point, I wanted all the starters. So, I went on GTS, asked for a Female Oshawott, and later a female Snivy. I eventually got both, and bred them both separately with a Zebstrika, resulting in one egg each for them. Then, I chucked them into the box and never used them for battle. I then bred my Emboar with the same Zebstrika, just in case. The Oshawott and Snivy eggs hatched, and became a tag-team for double battles once fully evolved. The horror in this? Two Pokemon were taken away from their trainers, and bred with another Pokemon that they had just met. Sounds disturbing, since my Serperior and Samurott (my best Pokemon now) are basically half-brothers, with a third brother still unborn. Forget a family member. What about ''breeding with a complete stranger?'' Breeding is screwed up indeed.

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* Breeding is seriously screwed up in these games. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential You can force a baby Pokemon Pokémon to breed moments after its birth, often with a member of its own family]]. I for instance, remember breeding (for IV and egg move purposes) a male level 100 Dragonite with his newborn level 1 Gible granddaughter, letting him impregnate the little girl with ''several'' eggs before being satisfied with the result. Then, after discarding (releasing) all of her extra children and keeping only one for myself, I proceeded to release ''her'' as well, as she was taking up too much box space. Yeah, that's right. I pretty much took a baby girl, forced her to bear a load of children with an old man, threw away most of her babies, and when she finally produced the offspring I wanted, I kept her last child for myself and told her to beat it. And to top it off, I used her one surviving child as the equivalent of a pit fighter. I mean, correct me if I'm looking too much into this, but there just seems to be something fundamentally creepy about Pokemon Pokémon breeding.
** This troper herself has a breeding story of her own. I hate using Ditto for breeding (It seems like the easy way out to me), so I crossbreed when I can. One point, I wanted all the starters. So, I went on GTS, asked for a Female Oshawott, and later a female Snivy. I eventually got both, and bred them both separately with a Zebstrika, resulting in one egg each for them. Then, I chucked them into the box and never used them for battle. I then bred my Emboar with the same Zebstrika, just in case. The Oshawott and Snivy eggs hatched, and became a tag-team for double battles once fully evolved. The horror in this? Two Pokemon Pokémon were taken away from their trainers, Trainers, and bred with another Pokemon Pokémon that they had just met. Sounds disturbing, since my Serperior and Samurott (my best Pokemon Pokémon now) are basically half-brothers, with a third brother still unborn. Forget a family member. What about ''breeding with a complete stranger?'' Breeding is screwed up indeed.



* The concept of Pokemon in general. What kind of world is it that required every single wild animal to, to name but a few, develop the power to cause localized earthquakes, breath fire, shoot leaves fast enough to be dangerous, or teleport?

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* The concept of Pokemon Pokémon in general. What kind of world is it that required every single wild animal to, to name but a few, develop the power to cause localized earthquakes, breath fire, shoot leaves fast enough to be dangerous, or teleport?



* Pokeballs are a form of [[PowerLimiter power limiters]], which goes to explain things like Team Rocket blasting off harmless. However wild Pokemon ''wouldn't'' have those limiters. [[HarsherInHindsight Suddenly Professor Birch's "cowardice" is a lot more understandable.]] This'd also be FridgeBrilliance for why [[InformedAbility the Dex "exaggerates"]](and [[HeartwarmingInHindsight Fridge Heartwarming]] [[NobleDemon that the wild Pokemon doesn't attack a fainted trainer.]])
* Baby Pokemon that you only get if the parent is holding incense. Think about it, without that drug being present the infant is born as a fully-fledged member of its species, but due to the presence of the incense at conception it is born in a smaller form that becomes the main pokemon. Incense forces pokemon to give birth to ''premature babies''.
* In VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite, Unova's resident [[StealthPun literal]] [[PoisonMushroom poison mushrooms]] are Foongus and Amoongus, toadstool-like Pokémon whose caps look like pokeballs (and are identical to them in the overworld). According to the [[AllThereInTheManual Pokédex]], these are meant to lure in prey. Also according to the Pokédex, wild Pokémon [[EpicFail rarely fall for it]], because of freaking course they do. Why would a wild Pokémon seek out and approach Pokéballs? But there ''must'' be a reason why those caps developed the way they did, right? They very clearly have survived this far with this gimmick, so there must be ''something'' in the Pokémon world that actually falls for the trap regularly. So, let's think: What or ''who'' wanders through forests and fields, actively grabbing anything remotely shaped like a pokéba- [[PlayerCharacter oh.]] [[ToServeMan Oh dear...]] - MrMadrigal

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* Pokeballs Poké Balls are a form of [[PowerLimiter power limiters]], which goes to explain things like Team Rocket blasting off harmless. However wild Pokemon Pokémon ''wouldn't'' have those limiters. [[HarsherInHindsight Suddenly Professor Birch's "cowardice" is a lot more understandable.]] This'd also be FridgeBrilliance for why [[InformedAbility the Dex "exaggerates"]](and [[HeartwarmingInHindsight Fridge Heartwarming]] [[NobleDemon that the wild Pokemon Pokémon doesn't attack a fainted trainer.Trainer.]])
* Baby Pokemon Pokémon that you only get if the parent is holding incense. Think about it, without that drug being present the infant is born as a fully-fledged member of its species, but due to the presence of the incense at conception it is born in a smaller form that becomes the main pokemon. Pokémon. Incense forces pokemon Pokémon to give birth to ''premature babies''.
* In VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite, Unova's resident [[StealthPun literal]] [[PoisonMushroom poison mushrooms]] are Foongus and Amoongus, toadstool-like Pokémon whose caps look like pokeballs Poké Balls (and are identical to them in the overworld). According to the [[AllThereInTheManual Pokédex]], these are meant to lure in prey. Also according to the Pokédex, wild Pokémon [[EpicFail rarely fall for it]], because of freaking course they do. Why would a wild Pokémon seek out and approach Pokéballs? But there ''must'' be a reason why those caps developed the way they did, right? They very clearly have survived this far with this gimmick, so there must be ''something'' in the Pokémon world that actually falls for the trap regularly. So, let's think: What or ''who'' wanders through forests and fields, actively grabbing anything remotely shaped like a pokéba- Poké Ba- [[PlayerCharacter oh.]] [[ToServeMan Oh dear...]] - MrMadrigal



** The first part of your question was answered in one piece of supplementary material (''Manga/PokemonSpecial'', if I'm not mistaken). You can certainly keep as many Pokémon as you want on your person, but you might not focus on all of them equally. Six Pokémon is just enough for one trainer to take care of evenly while having as many Pokémon as possible.

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** The first part of your question was answered in one piece of supplementary material (''Manga/PokemonSpecial'', if I'm not mistaken). You can certainly keep as many Pokémon as you want on your person, but you might not focus on all of them equally. Six Pokémon is just enough for one trainer Trainer to take care of evenly while having as many Pokémon as possible.



*** There are two other possible explanations: Either "filled" Pokeballs take up a lot more space in the bag, or it's a legal limit imposed by the Pokemon League.

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*** There are two other possible explanations: Either "filled" Pokeballs Poké Balls take up a lot more space in the bag, or it's a legal limit imposed by the Pokemon Pokémon League.



*** But shouldn't the Pokédex already know the locations of the Pokémon? I mean, shouldn't the energy signature information be stored in a central database and then transferred to every new (and old for National Dex) Pokédex the moment it's manufactured? It would make the trainer's work a lot easier.
*** Given the uniqueness of the protagonists, they may likely be receiving training to be something along the lines of Pokemon researchers. Think about it: Most other trainers just have a couple of Pokemon they likely met around the park down the street. The protagonists on the other hand receive their instructions directly from senior researchers, and they are encouraged to "catch 'em all" instead of just training a select few intensely. This would typically be called sample collection. To find out about specific Pokemon, you would have to either go look it up yourself at the library (like how most students start their research) or go out and discover them yourself. The professors can't be expected to just hand all the answers to you, since they want to encourage the habit of scouring the entire region to find new and possibly undiscovered Pokemon.
* It seems that the only non-Pokemon are humans. Just like it's a bit of a stereotype to consider humans the only non-animals. Humans could be Pokemon too. Among the most highly advanced species in intellect, they can learn a variety of different things. But they are not much different from other Pokemon. They can converse with other Pokemon. Just a theory, but who knows? What is a "Pokemon" anyways? A "Pocket Monster"? A term created by humans, who created devices to encapsulate all living beings with the exception of themselves (presumably). In the grand scheme of things, what are they? Are "humans" any different?

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*** But shouldn't the Pokédex already know the locations of the Pokémon? I mean, shouldn't the energy signature information be stored in a central database and then transferred to every new (and old for National Dex) Pokédex the moment it's manufactured? It would make the trainer's Trainer's work a lot easier.
*** Given the uniqueness of the protagonists, they may likely be receiving training to be something along the lines of Pokemon Pokémon researchers. Think about it: Most other trainers Trainers just have a couple of Pokemon Pokémon they likely met around the park down the street. The protagonists on the other hand receive their instructions directly from senior researchers, and they are encouraged to "catch 'em all" instead of just training a select few intensely. This would typically be called sample collection. To find out about specific Pokemon, Pokémon, you would have to either go look it up yourself at the library (like how most students start their research) or go out and discover them yourself. The professors can't be expected to just hand all the answers to you, since they want to encourage the habit of scouring the entire region to find new and possibly undiscovered Pokemon.
Pokémon.
* It seems that the only non-Pokemon non-Pokémon are humans. Just like it's a bit of a stereotype to consider humans the only non-animals. Humans could be Pokemon Pokémon too. Among the most highly advanced species in intellect, they can learn a variety of different things. But they are not much different from other Pokemon. Pokémon. They can converse with other Pokemon. Pokémon. Just a theory, but who knows? What is a "Pokemon" "Pokémon" anyways? A "Pocket Monster"? A term created by humans, who created devices to encapsulate all living beings with the exception of themselves (presumably). In the grand scheme of things, what are they? Are "humans" any different?



*** Imagine now what would happen if any of the 'Teams' managed to get around the Pokeball's [[HoistByHisOwnPetard anti-human capture]] [[FailsafeFailure failsafe]]. Cue FridgeHorror.
*** There's one flaw to that and that is [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals Bulbapedia proves there are real animals as well as Pokemon]] means it really is an alternate universe. And Junichi Masuda himself confirmed that it's an alternate reality.

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*** Imagine now what would happen if any of the 'Teams' managed to get around the Pokeball's Poké Ball's [[HoistByHisOwnPetard anti-human capture]] [[FailsafeFailure failsafe]]. Cue FridgeHorror.
*** There's one flaw to that and that is [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals Bulbapedia proves there are real animals as well as Pokemon]] Pokémon]] means it really is an alternate universe. And Junichi Masuda himself confirmed that it's an alternate reality.



** Human's only have 4 moveslots, just like Pokemon. "Fight" "Bag" "Pokemon" "Run".
** And their ability is Arena Trap, because you can't run from a trainer battle.
** Humans are not the only non Pokemon. The most apparent non Pokemon are the plant life. Then there are the microbes, ''then'' there is [[spoiler:the bitter cold]]. That is at least four categories of non Pokemon life. Most likely, the only things Pokemon, [[{{stock super powers}} who are very powerful]] have not driven to extinction...yet.
* The extent of which Pokemon are loyal to their owners can be rather chilling. It's noticeable in the anime where, even when Ash is possessed by the evil King of Pokelantis, his Sceptile still acts out his cruel orders. Considering that [[KnightOfCerebus Ghet]][[AbusiveParents sis]], [[WouldHurtAChild Hunter]] [[LackOfEmpathy J]] and ''Grings frikkin Kodai'' have all had Pokemon willing to follow him fully of their own volition, one has to wonder just ''how'' bad you have to be [[EvenEvilHasStandards for them to object?!]]
** Pokemon can be evil themselves...

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** Human's Humans only have 4 moveslots, just like Pokemon. Pokémon. "Fight" "Bag" "Pokemon" "Pokémon" "Run".
** And their ability is Arena Trap, because you can't run from a trainer Trainer battle.
** Humans are not the only non Pokemon. Pokémon. The most apparent non Pokemon Pokémon are the plant life. Then there are the microbes, ''then'' there is [[spoiler:the bitter cold]]. That is at least four categories of non Pokemon Pokémon life. Most likely, the only things Pokemon, Pokémon, [[{{stock super powers}} who are very powerful]] have not driven to extinction...yet.
* The extent of which Pokemon Pokémon are loyal to their owners can be rather chilling. It's noticeable in the anime where, even when Ash is possessed by the evil King of Pokelantis, Pokélantis, his Sceptile still acts out his cruel orders. Considering that [[KnightOfCerebus Ghet]][[AbusiveParents sis]], [[WouldHurtAChild Hunter]] [[LackOfEmpathy J]] and ''Grings frikkin Kodai'' have all had Pokemon Pokémon willing to follow him fully of their own volition, one has to wonder just ''how'' bad you have to be [[EvenEvilHasStandards for them to object?!]]
** Pokemon Pokémon can be evil themselves...



*** As for the Pokelantis King battle, the terms of the deal were that they battle in a fair fight. If any of Ash's Pokemon backed, out, it's possible that the battle would have been declared "won" in the King's favor.
*** Though there's also the question of why, say, Silver's Pokemon don't turn on him; he's clearly abusive, and every single one of them can seriously harm a preteen boy easily, unless he has some special disciplinary device that seriously harms them if they do step out of line. Or Blue, who is apparently neglectful, for that matter? And why in the world did that Munna not give those Plasma grunts the psychic beatdown of their life? Several trainers go on about how Pokemon are merely tools, why don't their Pokemon do anything?
* In regards to trainer battles:
** Using all six of your Pokemon against any evil-team member is justifiable. But against more civilised trainers, why can't the player conduct a civilized 1-on-1, 2-on-2, or 3-on-3?
** Winning against gym trainers to meet the gym leader is more understandable. And winning against a evil-team member will be necessary to rescue the region. But why is the player still forced to do a rematch against an ordinary trainer that s/he lost to, if s/he wants to move on with his/her story?
*** Another point on gyms: exploiting type advantages in a gym is very rude. Notice how each gym is dedicated to a particular type. Everyone in the gym is training with that type. Why? Are they just not smart enough to figure out they'll beat the gym leader more easily if they have a type advantage? No. There's no way so many people could all be that dumb, ''that'' blinded by their enthusiasm. Clearly, it's an unspoken rule that the gym is ''specifically'' intended for training ''that type of Pokemon'', and for competing in the field of skill in regard to ''that particular type of Pokemon''. And the player character just comes into the Celadon gym with his Charmander and thoroughly impresses them all with the power of fire Pokemon, right? No. That's what they say, but inside, they're shaking their heads. Because that's ''exactly'' like going into a kung-fu tournament and taking someone out with a gun. Who is that supposed to impress? Like, oh, look, you can kill someone. Now get out of our dojo.

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*** As for the Pokelantis Pokélantis King battle, the terms of the deal were that they battle in a fair fight. If any of Ash's Pokemon Pokémon backed, out, it's possible that the battle would have been declared "won" in the King's favor.
*** Though there's also the question of why, say, Silver's Pokemon Pokémon don't turn on him; he's clearly abusive, and every single one of them can seriously harm a preteen boy easily, unless he has some special disciplinary device that seriously harms them if they do step out of line. Or Blue, who is apparently neglectful, for that matter? And why in the world did that Munna not give those Plasma grunts the psychic beatdown of their life? Several trainers Trainers go on about how Pokemon Pokémon are merely tools, why don't their Pokemon Pokémon do anything?
* In regards to trainer Trainer battles:
** Using all six of your Pokemon Pokémon against any evil-team member is justifiable. But against more civilised trainers, Trainers, why can't the player conduct a civilized 1-on-1, 2-on-2, or 3-on-3?
** Winning against gym trainers Trainers to meet the gym leader is more understandable. And winning against a evil-team member will be necessary to rescue the region. But why is the player still forced to do a rematch against an ordinary trainer Trainer that s/he lost to, if s/he wants to move on with his/her story?
*** Another point on gyms: exploiting type advantages in a gym is very rude. Notice how each gym is dedicated to a particular type. Everyone in the gym is training with that type. Why? Are they just not smart enough to figure out they'll beat the gym leader more easily if they have a type advantage? No. There's no way so many people could all be that dumb, ''that'' blinded by their enthusiasm. Clearly, it's an unspoken rule that the gym is ''specifically'' intended for training ''that type of Pokemon'', Pokémon'', and for competing in the field of skill in regard to ''that particular type of Pokemon''. Pokémon''. And the player character just comes into the Celadon gym with his Charmander and thoroughly impresses them all with the power of fire Pokemon, Pokémon, right? No. That's what they say, but inside, they're shaking their heads. Because that's ''exactly'' like going into a kung-fu tournament and taking someone out with a gun. Who is that supposed to impress? Like, oh, look, you can kill someone. Now get out of our dojo.



** I believe the error is believing they are trying to replace the leader. But if you think about it, they often talk about him/her with a good deal of admiration, some even having a personal debt: they are there to help. They use pokemons of that specific type because they work for the gym leader and he sets the rules for them, while those who (like the player) are trying to earn their badge are not restricted to that, and so can use different types (and since is established the gym are there to actually teach something, is logical that some advice on type advantage is provided, it's a pivotal tactical point that's important to learn).
* So, I stick two Pokemon in a daycare... And why do my Pokemon get along with outsider Pokemon better than those they have battled side-by-side with? Aside from any game mechanic explanation? It's not just in the "they simply see eachother as friends" way either, the daycare man says himself that they don't seem to like eachother much. ...Huh?
** It's probably the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect Westermarck Effect]]. The psychological effect where two people, such as siblings, who grow up next to each other during the first few years of the lives don't find each other sexually attractive. A Pokemon trainer and their Pokemon form a "family unit" of sorts where the trainer is the "parental figure" and the Pokemon are the "children". They probably don't feel comfortable breeding with Pokemon they view as "siblings".
** I did consider the possibility, but the daycare man specifically says that they don't seem to like eachother very much, as to why I said "It's not just in the 'they simply see eachother as friends' way either".

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** I believe the error is believing they are trying to replace the leader. But if you think about it, they often talk about him/her with a good deal of admiration, some even having a personal debt: they are there to help. They use pokemons Pokémon of that specific type because they work for the gym leader and he sets the rules for them, while those who (like the player) are trying to earn their badge are not restricted to that, and so can use different types (and since is established the gym are there to actually teach something, is logical that some advice on type advantage is provided, it's a pivotal tactical point that's important to learn).
* So, I stick two Pokemon Pokémon in a daycare... And why do my Pokemon Pokémon get along with outsider Pokemon Pokémon better than those they have battled side-by-side with? Aside from any game mechanic explanation? It's not just in the "they simply see eachother each other as friends" way either, the daycare man says himself that they don't seem to like eachother each other much. ...Huh?
** It's probably the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect Westermarck Effect]]. The psychological effect where two people, such as siblings, who grow up next to each other during the first few years of the lives don't find each other sexually attractive. A Pokemon trainer Pokémon Trainer and their Pokemon Pokémon form a "family unit" of sorts where the trainer Trainer is the "parental figure" and the Pokemon Pokémon are the "children". They probably don't feel comfortable breeding with Pokemon Pokémon they view as "siblings".
** I did consider the possibility, but the daycare man specifically says that they don't seem to like eachother each other very much, as to why I said "It's not just in the 'they simply see eachother each other as friends' way either". either".
12th Feb '18 5:44:00 PM FF32
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** These aspects are actually explored by the ''MegamiTensei'' series. In fact, it {{deconstructed|Trope}} the concept of Mons [[UnbuiltTrope 10 YEARS before Pokémon codified it]].

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** These aspects are actually explored by the ''MegamiTensei'' ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series. In fact, it {{deconstructed|Trope}} the concept of Mons [[UnbuiltTrope 10 YEARS before Pokémon codified it]].
2nd Feb '18 6:06:02 PM Siggu
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* Counter and Mirror Coat's types make sense once one pays attention to the type chart and damage types before Generation IV:
** Counter is a Fighting-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the physical attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Ghost-type Pokemon. All Ghost-type attacks dealt ''physical'' damage before Generation IV. Furthermore, in Generation I, Counter only worked on Normal and Fighting-type moves, the two types Ghost-type Pokemon happen to be immune to.
** Mirror Coat is a Psychic-type move, and while it deals double the damage of the special attack that damaged the user in the previous turn and otherwise unaffected by the type chart, it cannot damage Dark-type Pokemon. All Dark-type attacks dealt ''special'' damage before Generation IV.
26th Jan '18 11:15:20 AM pikafan
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*** The first Mega-Evolution special has Chespin use Toxic through the spikes on it's head.
26th Jan '18 11:07:09 AM pikafan
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*** Nope. They are swarms of Beldum that come from Unova. They are found normally in the Giant Chasm. Looks like it's a great place for mystic, magic, or simply strange Pokémon. Kyurem's presence attracts all sorts of strange Pokémon.
3rd Jan '18 5:23:08 PM nombretomado
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* For a while, the move Hypnosis confused me - how do you knock someone out just by mentally telling them to go to sleep? Then I read ''[[TheHeroesOfOlympus The Lost Hero,]]'' which mentioned a minor Greek god named Hypnos. Now it makes sense -- the word "hypnosis" was derived from Hypnos's name, and he's the god of sleep!

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* For a while, the move Hypnosis confused me - how do you knock someone out just by mentally telling them to go to sleep? Then I read ''[[TheHeroesOfOlympus ''[[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus The Lost Hero,]]'' which mentioned a minor Greek god named Hypnos. Now it makes sense -- the word "hypnosis" was derived from Hypnos's name, and he's the god of sleep!
2nd Dec '17 4:13:09 PM CJCroen1393
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** Kalos: Amaura/Aurorous are both noted to be polar dinosaurs and Tyrunt/Tyrantrum have feathers (though admittedly not particularly extensive ones). This makes it possible that Kalos was once a snowy tundra. The fact that the prey gained a typing that is strong against the predator hints that the Amaura line may have migrated or adapted at some point to deal with their predator like Alolan Ratatta.

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** Kalos: Amaura/Aurorous are both noted to be polar dinosaurs and Tyrunt/Tyrantrum have feathers (though admittedly not particularly extensive ones). This makes it possible that Kalos was once a snowy tundra. The fact that the prey gained a typing that is strong against the predator hints that the Amaura line may have migrated or adapted at some point to deal with their predator like Alolan Ratatta. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon lent support to the former possibility by noting that Tyrantrum's feathery coat may have been much more extensive back in its own time period.
18th Nov '17 8:41:21 AM Foxtrope
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* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon absorbs solar radiation into its body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Nuclear Armageddon or worse.

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* Solarbeam is an absolutely terrifying move if you think about it. A Pokemon absorbs solar radiation into its body and fires it as a concentrated energy beam which could cause who knows how much destruction. From a level 5 Bulbasaur, it would only give a nasty sun burn and set plants on fire. From a level 40 Venasaur, it could cause third degree burns, near instant skin cancer and vaporize most plants. From a level 100 Primal Groudon? Death rays that can cause Nuclear Armageddon or worse.
20th Sep '17 2:53:37 AM Emperor_Oshron
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** And let's not forget the first example of this: Farfetch is native to Johto.

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** And let's not forget the first example of this: Farfetch Farfetch'd is native to Johto.Johto.
*** Not necessarily--they can be found in the wilds of Kanto in Yellow Version, too. (In that game, it's the only way to acquire one since the man trading it in Red/Blue no longer does.) That could very well mean that Farfetch'd migrate much like real ducks, though.
14th Aug '17 4:32:58 PM Aggron9988
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** In ''Videogame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', in a similar vein to slowpokes tail, the Moon entry for Crabrawler says: "It punches so much, its pincers often come off from overuse, but they grow back quickly. What little meat they contain is rich and delicious." so there's a sort of crab meat/seafood item. Slowpoke tails are also mentioned to be a part of alolan home cooking (made into a stew). A somewhat more questionable (and perhaps purposly vague) source of animal proteins are the "Fresh fillets/Frozen lean cuts/ and Leftover ''fish'' tips" for sale (but not actually available to the player character) in the Thrifty Megamart.

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** In ''Videogame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', in a similar vein to slowpokes tail, tails, the Moon entry for Crabrawler says: "It punches so much, its pincers often come off from overuse, but they grow back quickly. What little meat they contain is rich and delicious." so there's a sort of crab meat/seafood item. Slowpoke tails are also mentioned to be a part of alolan Alolan home cooking (made into a stew). A somewhat more questionable (and perhaps purposly vague) source of animal proteins are the "Fresh fillets/Frozen lean cuts/ and Leftover ''fish'' tips" for sale (but not actually available to the player character) in the Thrifty Megamart. It's possible that besides berry orchards/farms, there's farms for Pokemon that can have parts of their body harvested without lasting harm, like Crabrawler pincers, Slowpoke tails, Tropius fruits, etc.
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