History Fridge / OdinSphere

12th Oct '16 10:52:43 AM Vegabond
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\n** The subtitle of the remake,''Leifthrasir'', refers to the man who survives Ragnarok to repopulate the world with Leif, the surviving woman. ''Leifthrasir'', however, also means "lover of life" and can be seen to play into the themes of romantic and familial love in the game.

2nd Oct '16 7:53:19 AM Vegabond
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*** Alternatively, it could be seen as a pun. "Sphere" sounds very similar to "spear" and Gwendolyn's weapon of choice is a ShoutOut to Gungnir, the spear belonging to Odin.
2nd Oct '16 7:50:53 AM Vegabond
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** Gwendolyn and Oswald are based on Brynhildr and Sigurd from Norse Mythology. In ''Der Ring des Nibelungen'', Sigurd is referred to by the name Siegfried, the same name as the prince from Swan Lake, where the main female lead is Princess ''Odette''. The Odette and Siegfried of Swan Lake were lovers who committed suicide in order to be together forever in death. In other words, Odette feels entitled to Oswald because she believes him to be "her" Siegfried who she's destined to be united with forever. Too bad Gwendolyn doesn't agree with her.



** [[spoiler: As the Darkova]], Ingway is most widely recognized for being a ShoutOut to [[spoiler: the Fenrir wolf from Norse Mythology.]] A comment from George Kamitani in the art book, however, reveals that his sister, Velvet, is modeled after the Norse goddess Freyja. Considering this, the fact that he and Velvet are twins, his association with ''Odin Sphere's'' Vanir, and the Japanese spelling of his name (Yngwie) coming from an older name for the god in question, it can be inferred that Ingway's human character is based on Freyr.


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** [[spoiler: As the Darkova]], Ingway is most widely recognized for being a ShoutOut to [[spoiler: the Fenrir wolf from Norse Mythology.]] A comment from George Kamitani in the art book, however, reveals that his sister, Velvet, is modeled after the Norse goddess Freyja. Considering this, the fact that he and Velvet are twins, his association with ''Odin Sphere's'' Vanir, and the Japanese spelling of his name (Yngwie) coming from an older name for the god in question, it can be inferred that Ingway's human character is based on Freyr.


23rd Sep '16 7:14:32 PM Vegabond
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** [[spoiler: As the Darkova]], Ingway is most widely recognized for being a ShoutOut to [[spoiler: the Fenrir wolf from Norse Mythology.]] A comment from George Kamitani in the art book, however, reveals that his sister, Velvet, is modeled after the Norse goddess Freyja. Considering this, the fact that he and Velvet are twins, his association with ''Odin Sphere's'' Vanir, and the Japanese spelling of his name (Yngwie) coming from an older name for the god in question, it can be inferred that Ingway's human character is based on Freyr.

23rd Sep '16 7:08:20 PM Vegabond
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** Gwendolyn and Oswald are based on Brynhildr and Sigurd from Norse Mythology. In ''Der Ring des Nibelungen'', Sigurd is referred to by the name Siegfried, the same name as the prince from Swan Lake, where the main female lead is Princess ''Odette''. The Odette and Siegfried of Swan Lake were lovers who committed suicide in order to be together forever in death. In other words, Odette feels entitled to Oswald because she believes him to be "her" Siegfried who she's destined to be united with forever. Too bad Gwendolyn doesn't agree with her.




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** In Cornelius's epilogue chapter, Urzur has a single throwaway line that foreshadows Ingway's role [[spoiler: in Mercedes's story.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Urzur''': You ''stupid'' frog!]]
23rd Sep '16 10:14:23 AM Vegabond
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\n** The wording of Princess Ariel's prophecy concerning the fate of her children. "Eventually, an inevitable curse and death shall be thrown upon the two of you." Both twins believe that they're destined to die; however, only Ingway actually lives out this fate. Velvet, instead, survives the Armageddon, only to be cursed into a Pooka.
23rd Sep '16 8:19:03 AM Vegabond
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\n** A case of YouAreWorthHell: In the False End if you pit Mercedes against the Darkova, the fairy doesn't use her last breath to say her true name, but to instead confess her feelings for Ingway. Fairies can only go to the heavens by uttering their true name at death, meaning that Mercedes likely went to the Netherworld after she died. Seeing as the perfect True Ending reveals that Ingway ended up in the Netherworld after he died, she literally threw away her chance at going to paradise just to be with Ingway.

23rd Sep '16 7:21:36 AM Vegabond
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****** At this point Oswald is still desperate to be loved himself. He's not perfect. Not really excusing his behavior, but he's just been through a lot of emotional abuse at this point. He's taking what he can get. All he's hearing is that Gwendolyn really does love him. ''He'' knows that she's not being controlled by a spell even if she doesn't. While she admits that she doesn't mind if her feelings are being manufactured by a spell (ew) she's glad that she loves him. Also she just stormed two kingdoms and the Underworld for him. Her actions are backing up that she loves him. Yes, he should come clean, but at that point he just wanted her to know that he really did love her too. This troper likes to think he had that conversation with her during the fade to black. This game has so few happy moments in it, let's just appreciate the few that happen.

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****** At this point Oswald is still desperate to be loved himself. He's not perfect. Not really excusing his behavior, but he's just been through a lot of emotional abuse at this point. He's taking what he can get. All he's hearing is that Gwendolyn really does love him. ''He'' knows that she's not being controlled by a spell even if she doesn't. While she admits that she doesn't mind if her feelings are being manufactured by a spell (ew) she's glad that she loves him. Also she just stormed two kingdoms and the Underworld for him. Her actions are backing up that she loves him. Yes, he should come clean, but at that point he just wanted her to know that he really did love her too. This troper likes to think he had that conversation with her during the fade to black. This game has so few happy moments in it, let's just appreciate the few that happen.happen.
** The end of Cornelius's battle if you pit him against [[spoiler: King Gallon]] in the False End. Remember that even when a Pooka is killed, their body lingers on after death. [[spoiler: While the pain of being picked apart by maggots likely didn't last that long for Edmund, Cornelius will have to endure the rest of eternity being eaten alive in his grandfather's stomach.]]
25th Sep '15 5:59:31 PM lalaTKG
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***** Actually, strike that: having just played Gwendolyn's chapteshe doesn't care. Oswald imr again, Oswald mopes to himself about how much it must suck for Gwendolyn to be a prisoner to someone she doesn't care for right before the Halja comes for him. Later on, she explicitly tells him that she's under a spell... and that mediately launches into a speech about how much he loves her, but never tells her she's not magically compelled to feel that way.

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***** Actually, strike that: having just played Gwendolyn's chapteshe chapter, he doesn't care. Oswald imr again, Oswald mopes to himself about how much it must suck for Gwendolyn to be a prisoner to someone she doesn't care for right before the Halja comes for him. Later on, she explicitly tells him that she's under a spell... and that mediately then immediately launches into a speech about how much he loves her, but never tells her she's not magically compelled to feel that way.
1st Sep '15 8:53:29 PM orber123
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****** At this point Oswald is still desperate to be loved himself. He's not perfect. Not really excusing his behavior, but he's just been through a lot of emotional abuse at this point. He's taking what he can get. All he's hearing is that Gwendolyn really does love him. *He* knows that she's not being controlled by a spell even if she doesn't. While she admits that she doesn't mind if her feelings are being manufactured by a spell (ew) she's glad that she loves him. Also she just stormed two kingdoms and the Underworld for him. Her actions are backing up that she loves him. Yes, he should come clean, but at that point he just wanted her to know that he really did love her too. This troper likes to think he had that conversation with her during the fade to black. This game has so few happy moments in it, let's just appreciate the few that happen.

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****** At this point Oswald is still desperate to be loved himself. He's not perfect. Not really excusing his behavior, but he's just been through a lot of emotional abuse at this point. He's taking what he can get. All he's hearing is that Gwendolyn really does love him. *He* ''He'' knows that she's not being controlled by a spell even if she doesn't. While she admits that she doesn't mind if her feelings are being manufactured by a spell (ew) she's glad that she loves him. Also she just stormed two kingdoms and the Underworld for him. Her actions are backing up that she loves him. Yes, he should come clean, but at that point he just wanted her to know that he really did love her too. This troper likes to think he had that conversation with her during the fade to black. This game has so few happy moments in it, let's just appreciate the few that happen.
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