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9th Feb '13 11:02:21 AM Peteman
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9th Feb '13 10:58:36 AM Peteman
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* FridgeLogic: Would it been easier for the bellhop to use his magic to carry Rarity's luggage?
** For that matter, why does Rarity even need him? She seems to be able to carry quite a lot of stuff with her magic without much effort later in the episode.
*** [[RuleOfFunny Because it's funny?]]
*** That assumes that he is that powerful, which we don't know. Magic varies in strength from unicorn to unicorn, and he seems to be rather young, a teenage colt at best. Young ponies who aren't Twilight "[[Franchise/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]]" Sparkle seems to be rather weak.
** When trying to impress the upper crust ponies, why doesn't Rarity mention she and her friends are national heroes?
*** This. It would not even have destroyed the plot, since they could have found reason to look down on her anyway, but it feels rather fitting behavior for vain and status-conscious Rarity.
*** Because while Rarity does a bit of bragging during her song, she's clearly only singing it to herself. You'll notice she doesn't do much direct bragging of "I'm so great, I'm so marvelous, I make such wonderful things" to the others... in fact she generally tries to be modest to some extent. "Hey guys, I saved your ass from a possessed night-goddess and a chaos demon.", though true, would put her squarely in the braggart column. Not only does it not fit for Rarity too well, blatant bragging often doesn't go over too well at winning affection.
*** I wonder, why didn't she at least mention that one of her friends is a princess Celestia's student? Rarity did feel the need to "upgrade" Rainbow Dash to Wonderbolts' coach to up her own status, but she wouldn't even need to lie about Twilight.
* FridgeBrilliance: Fancypants clearly comes to Rarity's "rescue" at the end of the day, but there's a few hints that he might have known Rarity to be "rustic" when they first bumped into each other, such as him immediately wanting to introduce her to the upper class. It's possible that he did this intentionally, much the same way that Celestia invited the Mane Cast to the Grand Galloping Gala, to help break the monotony of upper class life (and possibly even to put the more snotty ones in their place). During the derby scene, you can see Fancypants give a knowing look to Rarity, and when the party is crashed by the Mane Cast, he doesn't even pause before welcoming them.
** Also, Fancypants is clearly well connected. It's possible he knows about the bearers of the Elements of Harmony,
** It may seem a bit odd that Applejack would not know what a "garden party" was, given even her brief exposure to the upper class as a filly. However, keep in mind that AJ's Aunt and Uncle Orange were high-life society from Manehatten; they're less likely to have garden parties compared to the upper classes of Europe, instead having events like fancy dinners and balls.
** Fluttershy has learned that acting serenely like a tree is likely a better way to attract the Canterlot wildlife than [[Recap/MyLittlePonyfriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver forcing them to love her]].
** Why does Twilight Sparkle, who had lived in Canterlot most of her life, doesn't know how to act properly in a high class party? Because, as the first episode shows, Twilight was so dedicated to studying that she practically had no social life before moving to Ponyville, and therefore the only parties she had attended are the 'rustic', informal ones, and most of those were organized by Pinkie Pie, so Twilight enjoying some silly, happy dancing is normal party behavior for her. The only time, after moving to Ponyville, when she attended a formal Canterlot party, was at the Great Galloping Gala, and we all know how that ended.
** Some of the elite ponies manage to talk Rarity into coming to their events by begging, saying how much her being there would mean. They made it seem like she'd be a big help being there (which if you pay attention, she WAS). Rarity has always had a problem getting in over her head when people ask her for help.
*** She is the Element of Generosity, after all. She also spends much of this episode being somewhat [[StealthPun generous]] [[BlatantLies with the truth]].
** Why wouldn't [[Series/DoctorWho someone with his own time machine]] [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ifjUihc9mLA/Tt3BrzhFm9I/AAAAAAAAWvQ/UqXbbQQqmsY/s1600/1.jpg abuse it to attend the same party several times?]]
** Several Youtubers have been able to pitch-shift "Becoming Popular" to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTHAchc6AU make it sound like Pinkie Pie is singing it]]. The brilliance is that ''the song's lyrics are just as appropriate for Pinkie as they are for Rarity''. Efforts are being made to merge the two into a virtual duet.
*** "Just as appropriate?" [[SarcasmMode Because Pinkie cares about high society now?]] Pinkie isn't going to hold somepony's high status against them (even assuming she deigns to comprehend it), but it's pretty clear that she finds the rules of high society[[hottip:*:or any other rules, actually]] an impediment to fun.
*** Pretty sure they mean the general gist of the song- "I'm the type of pony everypony should know". If you forget that it's about the upper-class, it's very Pinkie. If you think about it for Pinkie, it's "I'm the talk of the town" Take out the "belle of the ball" part and infer that the "fancy yacht" and other locales are simply [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal pretty places to hold Pinkie Pie's parties]], it makes sense. There are only a few lines that aren't Pinkie- the one about being the belle of the ball, and the one about "approving glance". Pinkie believes she is the "girl on the go" the "type of pony every pony should know" she's the "girl in the know" she in a way wants to be as "popular s popular can be". Even the one about making her mark across society could be Pinkie, the "mark" being her friendship. Just because she never uses the word "popular" doesn't mean anything. Pinkie specifically says she loves making friends, and she has a lot. To be popular is to have lots of friends. If you completely ignore that it's about high society, it is, yes, Pinkie Pie to others in a nutshell.
** Rarity's initial design for Twilight's dress looks like something that could draw attention the next time Twilight borrows the Royal Wind Tunnel; Twilight herself prefers the simple outfit she ends up throwing together. Almost as if Rarity's talent came through when she didn't have an ulterior motive like, say, designing a dress ''in anger'' more intended to show Jet Set and his bunch what she could do. That first design was ''not'' meant for Twilight.
9th Feb '13 10:51:04 AM nombretomado
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*** That assumes that he is that powerful, which we don't know. Magic varies in strength from unicorn to unicorn, and he seems to be rather young, a teenage colt at best. Young ponies who aren't Twilight "[[{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]]" Sparkle seems to be rather weak.

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*** That assumes that he is that powerful, which we don't know. Magic varies in strength from unicorn to unicorn, and he seems to be rather young, a teenage colt at best. Young ponies who aren't Twilight "[[{{X-Men}} "[[Franchise/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]]" Sparkle seems to be rather weak.
22nd Dec '12 1:08:32 AM JoseRamiro
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** Why does Twilight Sparkle, who had lived in Canterlot most of her life, doesn't know how to act properly in a high class party? Because, as the first episode shows, Twilight was so dedicated to studying that she practically had no social life before moving to Ponyville, and therefore the only parties she had attended are the 'rustic', informal ones, and most of those were organized by Pinkie Pie, so Twilight enjoying some silly, happy dancing is normal party behavior for her. The only time, after moving to Ponyville, when she attended a formal Canterlot party, was at the Great Galloping Gala, and we all know how that ended.
11th Dec '12 5:55:03 PM kundoo
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*** I wonder, why didn't she at least mention that one of her friends is a princess Celestia's student? Rarity did feel the need to "upgrade" Rainbow Dash to Wonderbolts' coach to up her own status, but she wouldn't even need to lie about Twilight.
19th Oct '12 10:46:29 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** Pretty sure they mean the general gist of the song- "I'm the type of pony everypony should know". If you forget that it's about the upper-class, it's very Pinkie. It could be about being friends with everypony.

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*** Pretty sure they mean the general gist of the song- "I'm the type of pony everypony should know". If you forget that it's about the upper-class, it's very Pinkie. It could be If you think about it for Pinkie, it's "I'm the talk of the town" Take out the "belle of the ball" part and infer that the "fancy yacht" and other locales are simply [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal pretty places to hold Pinkie Pie's parties]], it makes sense. There are only a few lines that aren't Pinkie- the one about being friends with everypony.the belle of the ball, and the one about "approving glance". Pinkie believes she is the "girl on the go" the "type of pony every pony should know" she's the "girl in the know" she in a way wants to be as "popular s popular can be". Even the one about making her mark across society could be Pinkie, the "mark" being her friendship. Just because she never uses the word "popular" doesn't mean anything. Pinkie specifically says she loves making friends, and she has a lot. To be popular is to have lots of friends. If you completely ignore that it's about high society, it is, yes, Pinkie Pie to others in a nutshell.
19th Oct '12 10:34:45 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** Pretty sure they mean the general gist of the song- "I'm the type of pony everypony should know". If you forget that it's about the upper-class, it's very Pinkie. It could be about being friends with everypony.
6th Jul '12 10:08:13 AM Bwbah
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*** "Just as appropriate?" [[SarcasmMode Because Pinkie cares about high society now?]] Pinkie isn't going to hold somepony's high status against them (even assuming she deigns to comprehend it), but it's pretty clear that she finds the rules of high society[[hottip:*:or any other rules, actually]] an impediment to fun.
7th May '12 8:58:43 AM Renelia
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* FridgeLogic: Would it been easier for the bellhop to use his magic to carry Rarity's luggage?
** For that matter, why does Rarity even need him? She seems to be able to carry quite a lot of stuff with her magic without much effort later in the episode.
*** [[RuleOfFunny Because it's funny?]]
*** That assumes that he is that powerful, which we don't know. Magic varies in strength from unicorn to unicorn, and he seems to be rather young, a teenage colt at best. Young ponies who aren't Twilight "[[{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]]" Sparkle seems to be rather weak.
** When trying to impress the upper crust ponies, why doesn't Rarity mention she and her friends are national heroes?
*** This. It would not even have destroyed the plot, since they could have found reason to look down on her anyway, but it feels rather fitting behavior for vain and status-conscious Rarity.
*** Because while Rarity does a bit of bragging during her song, she's clearly only singing it to herself. You'll notice she doesn't do much direct bragging of "I'm so great, I'm so marvelous, I make such wonderful things" to the others... in fact she generally tries to be modest to some extent. "Hey guys, I saved your ass from a possessed night-goddess and a chaos demon.", though true, would put her squarely in the braggart column. Not only does it not fit for Rarity too well, blatant bragging often doesn't go over too well at winning affection.
* FridgeBrilliance: Fancypants clearly comes to Rarity's "rescue" at the end of the day, but there's a few hints that he might have known Rarity to be "rustic" when they first bumped into each other, such as him immediately wanting to introduce her to the upper class. It's possible that he did this intentionally, much the same way that Celestia invited the Mane Cast to the Grand Galloping Gala, to help break the monotony of upper class life (and possibly even to put the more snotty ones in their place). During the derby scene, you can see Fancypants give a knowing look to Rarity, and when the party is crashed by the Mane Cast, he doesn't even pause before welcoming them.
** Also, Fancypants is clearly well connected. It's possible he knows about the bearers of the Elements of Harmony,
** It may seem a bit odd that Applejack would not know what a "garden party" was, given even her brief exposure to the upper class as a filly. However, keep in mind that AJ's Aunt and Uncle Orange were high-life society from Manehatten; they're less likely to have garden parties compared to the upper classes of Europe, instead having events like fancy dinners and balls.
** Fluttershy has learned that acting serenely like a tree is likely a better way to attract the Canterlot wildlife than [[Recap/MyLittlePonyfriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver forcing them to love her]].
** Some of the elite ponies manage to talk Rarity into coming to their events by begging, saying how much her being there would mean. They made it seem like she'd be a big help being there (which if you pay attention, she WAS). Rarity has always had a problem getting in over her head when people ask her for help.
*** She is the Element of Generosity, after all. She also spends much of this episode being somewhat [[StealthPun generous]] [[BlatantLies with the truth]].
** Why wouldn't [[Series/DoctorWho someone with his own time machine]] [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ifjUihc9mLA/Tt3BrzhFm9I/AAAAAAAAWvQ/UqXbbQQqmsY/s1600/1.jpg abuse it to attend the same party several times?]]
** Several Youtubers have been able to pitch-shift "Becoming Popular" to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTHAchc6AU make it sound like Pinkie Pie is singing it]]. The brilliance is that ''the song's lyrics are just as appropriate for Pinkie as they are for Rarity''. Efforts are being made to merge the two into a virtual duet.
** Rarity's initial design for Twilight's dress looks like something that could draw attention the next time Twilight borrows the Royal Wind Tunnel; Twilight herself prefers the simple outfit she ends up throwing together. Almost as if Rarity's talent came through when she didn't have an ulterior motive like, say, designing a dress ''in anger'' more intended to show Jet Set and his bunch what she could do. That first design was ''not'' meant for Twilight.
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