History Fridge / MortalKombat9

28th Nov '17 2:24:34 PM AM_NK
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* Noob Saibot's X-ray move causes his opponent to vomit upon his leg when he delivers a side kick to their stomach. Aside from the possibility of the vomit entering his wounds from the battle, why would he try it on Reptile? The guy ''[[HollywoodAcid upchucks acid that melts people down to skeletons in seconds]]''.
** Even moreso with Skarlet's fatality, where she slits her opponent's throat and ''bathes in their blood''. Again, not recommended if Reptile's inwards are as bad as his bodily fluids.
** Perhaps Reptile's acid is spewed from a gland and is not actual stomach acid, which would make sense from a biologist's point of view. This also means that Reptile could effectively fight on a full stomach... Maybe [[MST3KMantra we're reading too much into this?]]
** Reptilian venom in the real world is ''saliva''. Not stomach acids.
** Two points: firstly, this is Mortal Kombat. "Real world" does not apply. Second, Reptile's clearly using an ACID of some sort. Saliva does not melt flesh.
*** Neither does acid. Acid ''dissolves'' things, just like saliva does. Saliva is the first part of the digestion process, and it may not break down matter as quickly as the dedicated acids in your stomache do, but it gets the job started. Think of the various poisons in nature that are described as pre-digesting the food from the inside out. Same thing.
*** Not to mention that it clearly sounds like he's spitting whenever he uses his Acid '''Spit''' special.
*** To the person who claimed that "Real world" things didn't apply to Reptile due to him being of a fictional fantasy race (Saurians), you're wrong in your thinking due to the fact that the Saurians are stated to have evolved from reptiles from Earthrealm [[note]]"The Saurians are reptilian humanoids who evolved from the dinosaurs." "The Saurians were originally native to Earthrealm where their civilization thrived countless years ago." Both of these quotes are from the Mortal Kombat Wikia on their Saurian article[[/note]], thus whatever applies to reptiles from the human world should also apply to the Saurians in theory.
* Raiden managed to heal Jax somehow with his electricity powers in the second chapter of the game, so why couldn't he [[spoiler:try it on Kitana before she died? Could've at least brought her back from the brink...]]
** Perhaps the wounds were too severe; also, RuleOfDrama.
** [[spoiler: Sindel was halfway through stealing Kitana's soul before Nightwolf intervened. Presumably Raiden's healing powers only work on physical injuries.]]
** I got the impression Raiden was just cauterizing the wound.
*** Jax clearly had a lot of bruises in addition to any actual cuts and wounds he may have sustained. Raiden's powers seemed to heal those as well, and apparently gave him the strength to be able to walk around on his own again, so it's not ''just'' cauterization.
* While it's probably a writing oversight, when Nightwolf approaches Styker after his victory over Ermac, he says that Raiden is gathering Earth's defenders, to which Stryker replied "Well, Earthrealm defender is about 10 steps above my pay-grade!" How did Stryker know it was called Earth''realm'' when the very idea of other realms existing is something normal people like him wouldn't know about prior to Shao Kahn's invasion?
** Just because you stick realm at the end doesn't mean he couldn't recognize that he would be defending the planet. Plus, it would make sense to assume the monsters attacking are from another realm, so the context is fairly clear.



* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12990725550A70245900&page=57 From the forums:]] "Just realized something else, though. The events of the tournament were changed ''immediately'' after Raiden received the message. Things like Nightwolf and Kitana being there can be HandWaved for practicality's sake (if they weren't there, they'd show up out of nowhere when the story gets around to the game they were introduced) but that's not what I'm talking about. The ''very first fight'' of the tournament is against Reptile. In the original timeline, I'm pretty sure none of them even knew Reptile was there, since he was a secret character." -- Tropers/BadWolf21
** Related to this, it may take a second to realize why characters like Kitana and Nightwolf are present at all during the events of the first game other than "why not". The tournament itself was vastly different in the first game to how we know it as now, as it was just any fighting tournament hijacked by Shang-Tsung. Most of the characters from the first game are Earthrealm warriors as a result, since the Earthrealm vs. Outworld plot didn't exist until after the first film. It's not just adding in characters for the sake of it, they're [[RetCon Retconning]] some of the fighters present to balance the teams out!

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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12990725550A70245900&page=57 From the forums:]] "Just forums:]]
--> ''"Just
realized something else, though. The events of the tournament were changed ''immediately'' after Raiden received the message. Things like Nightwolf and Kitana being there can be HandWaved for practicality's sake (if they weren't there, they'd show up out of nowhere when the story gets around to the game they were introduced) but that's not what I'm talking about. The ''very first fight'' of the tournament is against Reptile. In the original timeline, I'm pretty sure none of them even knew Reptile was there, since he was a secret character." -- Tropers/BadWolf21
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** Related to this, it may take a second to realize why characters like Kitana and Nightwolf are present at all during the events of the first game other than "why not". The tournament itself was vastly different in the first game to how we know it as now, as it was just any fighting tournament hijacked by Shang-Tsung.Shang Tsung. Most of the characters from the first game are Earthrealm warriors as a result, since the Earthrealm vs. Outworld plot didn't exist until after the first film. It's not just adding in characters for the sake of it, they're [[RetCon Retconning]] {{RetCon}}ning some of the fighters present to balance the teams out!



* The inclusion of Freddy Krueger had a few wondering how he has his powers when the the other Kombatants aren't dreaming. However you may recall that in Mortal Kombat Deception it was revealed that the MK universe exists only as the dream of the One Being, and would cease should he ever wake. The MK universe is a dream, in a sleeping mind, Freddy loses no power.
* Why did the heroes get slaughtered so easily by Sindel? Because they were holding back in the begining because it was Kitana's mother and Raiden had likely filled them in on the nature of her death and resurection. They were trying to contain her so Kitana could break the spell controlling her but, Sindel hit them too hard too fast for them to recover.

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* The inclusion of Freddy Krueger had a few wondering how he has his powers when the the other Kombatants aren't dreaming. However you may recall that in Mortal Kombat Deception ''Mortal Kombat: Deception'' it was revealed that the MK universe exists only as the dream of the One Being, and would cease should he ever wake. The MK universe is a dream, in a sleeping mind, Freddy loses no power.
* Why did the heroes get slaughtered so easily by Sindel? Because they were holding back in the begining beginning because it she was Kitana's mother and Raiden had likely filled them in on the nature of her death and resurection.resurrection. They were trying to contain her so Kitana could break the spell controlling her but, Sindel hit them too hard too fast for them to recover.



** That, and Rain wasn't even in the original MK3, but rather it's UpdatedRerelease, Ultimate MK3.
*** Neither was Ermac.
*** Rain wasn't even playable in the original Arcade version of [[VideoGame/MortalKombat3 UMK3]].

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** That, and and, in a meta sense, Rain wasn't even in the original MK3, [=MK3=], but rather it's in the console versions of its UpdatedRerelease, Ultimate MK3.
*** Neither
[=MK3=]. As for Ermac, [[UrbanLegendOfZelda he was Ermac.
*** Rain wasn't even playable in the original Arcade version of [[VideoGame/MortalKombat3
a rumored glitched character who didn't made it until UMK3]].



* Mortal Kombat is a fighting game series with multiple branching outcomes in each game with no clear way to tell which endings are canon. Some are obviously non-canon(like Raiden's ending in MK1), but we really don't have a guide to the true events of the series. With few major instances(the Smoke/Sub-Zero switch and Kung Lao's death), we don't know what's supposed to actually happen anymore than Raiden does. So, it's entirely possible that until Raiden saves Smoke, we're just being treated to the actual events of the first two games.
* Given his hidden agenda it seems strange that Quan Chi would use his magic to help Shao Kahn? However, after giving it some thought it makes sense, in the original timeline there was a gap between the events of the Outworld tournament and the invasion of Earth, a gap many of the heroes used to prepare from the invasion (Jax upgrading his arms, Johnny Cage seemed to assume 3 was going to happen in his ending, Nightwolf had visions and used his magic to shield his people, etc.). Quan Chi healing Kahn sped up the invasion, as did raising Sindel himself, robbing the heroes of the time they needed to prepare and maximizing casualties while still ensuring Shao Kahn's death! Between the healing and raising Sindel he also managed to completely remove Shang Tsung from the Emperor's favor, eliminating his biggest rival as well as earning the Emperor's favor!

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* Mortal Kombat is a fighting game series with multiple branching outcomes in each game with no clear way to tell which endings are canon. Some are obviously non-canon(like non-canon (like Raiden's ending in MK1), but we really don't have a guide to the true events of the series. With few major instances(the instances (the Smoke/Sub-Zero switch and Kung Lao's death), we don't know what's supposed to actually happen anymore than Raiden does. So, it's entirely possible that until Raiden saves Smoke, we're just being treated to the actual events of the first two games.
* Given his hidden agenda it seems strange that Quan Chi would use his magic to help Shao Kahn? Kahn. However, after giving it some thought it makes sense, in the original timeline there was a gap between the events of the Outworld tournament and the invasion of Earth, a gap many of the heroes used to prepare from the invasion (Jax upgrading his arms, Johnny Cage seemed to assume 3 was going to happen in his ending, Nightwolf had visions and used his magic to shield his people, etc.). Quan Chi healing Kahn sped up the invasion, as did raising Sindel himself, robbing the heroes of the time they needed to prepare and maximizing casualties while still ensuring Shao Kahn's death! Between the healing and raising Sindel he also managed to completely remove Shang Tsung from the Emperor's favor, eliminating his biggest rival as well as earning the Emperor's favor!



** [[spoiler: It should noted however, that the majority of the characters who died over the course of MK9 had their souls given to Quan Chi. And several combatants in the Battle of Armageddon were all killed and later revived or otherwise able to take part in the battle (such as Mileena). Unless the character was killed in a way that prevents any sort of return then I wouldn't be sure death would prevent a character from being part of what triggers Armageddon.]]

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** [[spoiler: It should noted however, that the majority of the characters who died over the course of MK9 [=MK9=] had their souls given to Quan Chi. And several combatants in the Battle of Armageddon were all killed and later revived or otherwise able to take part in the battle (such as Mileena). Unless the character was killed in a way that prevents any sort of return then I wouldn't be sure death would prevent a character from being part of what triggers Armageddon.]]



** We do see the Outworld warriors discussing Kahn's succession when they presume Liu Kang killed him. Mileena's name comes up quickly as Kahn's appointed heir and, as we would see in [[VideoGame/MortalKombatX the following game]], she did indeed succeed Shao Kahn as Empress of Outworld (a position for which "Kahn/Kahnum" is established to be the corresponding title, rather than a surname, but that's beside the point). But her rule was [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating so reviled]] by the population, she was overthrown by Kotal Kahn in short order. So, for better or worse, the highest position of power in Outworld wasn't vacated for too long. And, if Tanya and Rain's alliance with Mileena to retake the throne is any indication, it's quite likely that none of the realms Shao Kahn had annexed before had achieved independence. From Mileena's side it's easy to understand, since she would want to maintain her "father"'s status quo, but in Kotal's case it seems more likely that he would need their forces to bolster his defenses from inconvenient extra-realm invasions like the one Havik tried to lead between Shinnok's first (in this timeline) attack to the realms and the game's main timeframe.[[note]]as seen in the ''MKX'' tie-in comics[[/note]]

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** We do see the Outworld warriors discussing Kahn's succession when they presume Liu Kang killed him. Mileena's name comes up quickly as Kahn's appointed heir and, as we would see in [[VideoGame/MortalKombatX the following game]], she did indeed succeed Shao Kahn as Empress of Outworld (a position for which "Kahn/Kahnum" is established to be the corresponding title, rather than a surname, but that's beside the point). But her rule was [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating so reviled]] by the population, she was overthrown by Kotal Kahn in short order. So, for better or worse, the highest position of power in Outworld wasn't vacated for too long. And, if Tanya and Rain's alliance with Mileena to retake the throne is any indication, it's quite likely that none of the realms Shao Kahn had annexed before had achieved independence. From Mileena's side it's easy to understand, since she would want to maintain her "father"'s status quo, but in Kotal's case it seems more likely that he would need their forces to bolster his defenses from inconvenient extra-realm invasions like the one Havik tried to lead between Shinnok's first (in this timeline) attack to the realms and the game's main timeframe.[[note]]as seen in the ''MKX'' tie-in comics[[/note]]comics[[/note]]
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22nd Jun '17 6:19:52 PM ImaginaryMetroid
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** Just because you stick realm at the end doesn't mean he couldn't recognize that he would be defending the planet. Plus, it would make sense to assume the monsters attacking are from another realm, so the context is fairly clear.
31st Jan '17 9:31:58 AM AndyLA
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* [[spoiler:Shao Kahn's death]] may have resulted in a victory for Earthrealm, but there's a power vacuum in Outworld because of it. Here's hoping Edenia, Vaeternus, Zaterra and any other realm that was merged with Outworld finds some way to separate from it, because between the Tarkata, Shokan and Centaurs, things are gonna get ugly in a hurry. And that's not even counting [[spoiler:whatever the hell Shinnok's planning if part of his plan involves Outworld somehow.]]

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* [[spoiler:Shao Kahn's death]] may have resulted in a victory for Earthrealm, but there's a power vacuum in Outworld because of it. Here's hoping Edenia, Vaeternus, Zaterra and any other realm that was merged with Outworld finds some way to separate from it, because between the Tarkata, Shokan and Centaurs, things are gonna get ugly in a hurry. And that's not even counting [[spoiler:whatever the hell Shinnok's planning if part of his plan involves Outworld somehow.]]]]
** We do see the Outworld warriors discussing Kahn's succession when they presume Liu Kang killed him. Mileena's name comes up quickly as Kahn's appointed heir and, as we would see in [[VideoGame/MortalKombatX the following game]], she did indeed succeed Shao Kahn as Empress of Outworld (a position for which "Kahn/Kahnum" is established to be the corresponding title, rather than a surname, but that's beside the point). But her rule was [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating so reviled]] by the population, she was overthrown by Kotal Kahn in short order. So, for better or worse, the highest position of power in Outworld wasn't vacated for too long. And, if Tanya and Rain's alliance with Mileena to retake the throne is any indication, it's quite likely that none of the realms Shao Kahn had annexed before had achieved independence. From Mileena's side it's easy to understand, since she would want to maintain her "father"'s status quo, but in Kotal's case it seems more likely that he would need their forces to bolster his defenses from inconvenient extra-realm invasions like the one Havik tried to lead between Shinnok's first (in this timeline) attack to the realms and the game's main timeframe.[[note]]as seen in the ''MKX'' tie-in comics[[/note]]
21st Oct '16 4:08:27 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[spoiler:Shinnok]] has cemented himself as a MagnificentBastard[=/=]DumbassNoMore here. [[spoiler:The CosmicRetcon seemingly changes several details that it shouldn't, since Raiden's warning from the future should only have changed minor details during and after the first tournament. This seems like an example of TheyJustDidntCare.... until you realize that these changes in particular benefited Shinnok in the end, leaving the Netherrealm in control of several dead, enslaved fighters it didn't have before and having a firmer hold on both Noob Saibot and Scorpion, not to mention Shinnok taking credit for getting Shao Kahn killed (and, very nearly, Raiden). All this which suggests that, like Raiden, Shinnok (the only other survivor of Armageddon besides Shao Kahn and Liu Kang's spirit) has also messed with time and worked to change the outcome of past events--in his case, much more successfully.]] -- Tropers/{{masamune1}}

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* [[spoiler:Shinnok]] has cemented himself as a MagnificentBastard[=/=]DumbassNoMore here. [[spoiler:The CosmicRetcon seemingly changes several details that it shouldn't, since Raiden's warning from the future should only have changed minor details during and after the first tournament. This seems like an example of TheyJustDidntCare....not caring.... until you realize that these changes in particular benefited Shinnok in the end, leaving the Netherrealm in control of several dead, enslaved fighters it didn't have before and having a firmer hold on both Noob Saibot and Scorpion, not to mention Shinnok taking credit for getting Shao Kahn killed (and, very nearly, Raiden). All this which suggests that, like Raiden, Shinnok (the only other survivor of Armageddon besides Shao Kahn and Liu Kang's spirit) has also messed with time and worked to change the outcome of past events--in his case, much more successfully.]] -- Tropers/{{masamune1}}
18th Aug '16 3:25:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Stryker shows a bit of GenreSavvy when he immediately recognizes Mileena is a bad guy. In the Armageddon intro, Stryker shows his GenreSavvy again by being the first to run up the pyramid, but only after punching the lights out of Mileena who was distracted at the time.

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* Stryker shows a bit of GenreSavvy savvy when he immediately recognizes Mileena is a bad guy. In the Armageddon intro, Stryker shows his GenreSavvy it again by being the first to run up the pyramid, but only after punching the lights out of Mileena who was distracted at the time.
4th Jan '16 9:10:43 AM SolidSonicTH
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* Raiden did the right thing in the first third of the game. Sure it didn't change the future (his amulet cracked) but at that stage it was too early to fulfill his future self's word as standing down at that stage would have just legalized Shao Kahn's invasion. He couldn't "win" until the second third and onwards (and even that is up for debate since Raiden accepting Shang Tsung's offer for an Outworld tournament is acknowledged by the Elder Gods, possibly validating the claim against Earthrealm if Outworld won their tournament; only when Shao Kahn crossed into Earthrealm without proper claim was he absolutely out of accord with the Elder Gods rules).
3rd Oct '15 11:10:34 AM FlakyPorcupine
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** Related to this, it may take a second to realize why characters like Kitana and Nightwolf are present at all during the events of the first game other than "why not". The tournament itself was vastly different in the first game to how we know it as now, as it was just any fighting tournament hijacked by Shang-Tsung. Most of the characters from the first game are Earthrealm warriors as a result, since the Earthrealm vs. Outworld plot didn't exist until after the first film. It's not just adding in characters for the sake of it, they're [[RetCon Retconning]] some of the fighters present to balance the teams out!
17th Jun '15 1:52:38 PM GoofyGoober
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*** Well, it's been confirmed that Babalities only last 1 hour, and some kombatants actually retain their mental mind, which may explain why baby Shang Tsung sits contently, as if he's thinking about evil plans.
24th Apr '15 6:23:24 PM MrWang
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* While it's probably a writing oversight, when Nightwolf approaches Styker after his victory over Ermac, he says that Raiden is gathering Earth's defenders, to which Stryker replied "Well, Earthrealm defender is about 10 steps above my pay-grade!" How did Stryker know it was called Earth''realm'' when the very idea of other realms existing is something normal people like him wouldn't know about prior to Shao Kahn's invasion?
11th Jun '14 9:24:44 PM Deathhacker
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* When you look at the three cyborg's damaged modes, Cyrax and Sektor show mechanical parts that are metallic. When Cyber Sub-Zero takes damage, you can see red fibers and his brain. Seems kinda weird (as it makes him look like a skinned human in armor rather than a cyborg) until you realize that those fibers are not his muscles, but coolant pipes running through his body.
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