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3rd Dec '15 6:05:44 AM wrm5
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Other M could be called Fridge Logic: The Game. F'rinstance consider things from Adam's perspective
* Metroids were officially destroyed according to whose report
* He opposes bio-weapons research but Samus broke protocol (an explicit extermination order) to turn over a living sample of a creature deemed too dangerous to exist to outpost science station
* He knows there is a faction in the GF out there trying to run around his recommendation and the standing "no bioweapons" ruling. So much so his XO and him are trying desperately to gather evidence
* Samus left to effectively become a one woman Blackwater after sympathetic but still less than stellar behavior and likely chasing a crusade to "rid the universe of suffering" or something akin to that or save everyone.
* Uh-oh, on a rush mission to uncover an illegal research conspiracy guess who just shows up and, oh yeah, could be the only source/expert for all this
In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of a possible assassin in his own ranks (that he observes over her comms but her presence like that could be...well a performance) This more than anything may help ease you into understanding his often overly stiff and reactionary attitude; though his trust and belief in her comes through in the end Samus, from his view, was looking as suspicious as he could be from our own
* At first, Adam's decision to [[spoiler: shoot Samus in the back]] seemed inexplicably horrible, many have even likened it to abuse and wondered why Adam didn't just [[spoiler: shoot the metroid larva]] instead but it makes sense if you think about it. [[spoiler: The metroid larva]] was acting calmly until after Adam already [[spoiler: shot Samus]] so he might have thought that [[spoiler: the larva wouldn't have attacked if left alone]] and, as far as he knew, [[spoiler: Samus was about to shoot at an unkillable metroid and get it angry at her]]. Granted, in retrospect, it was a stupid idea but it probably made sense to him at the time, especially in the heat of the moment.


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%% Other M could be called Fridge Logic: The Game. F'rinstance consider things from Adam's perspective
%% * Metroids were officially destroyed according to whose report
%% * He opposes bio-weapons research but Samus broke protocol (an explicit extermination order) to turn over a living sample of a creature deemed too dangerous to exist to outpost science station
%% * He knows there is a faction in the GF out there trying to run around his recommendation and the standing "no bioweapons" ruling. So much so his XO and him are trying desperately to gather evidence
%% * Samus left to effectively become a one woman Blackwater after sympathetic but still less than stellar behavior and likely chasing a crusade to "rid the universe of suffering" or something akin to that or save everyone.
%% * Uh-oh, on a rush mission to uncover an illegal research conspiracy guess who just shows up and, oh yeah, could be the only source/expert for all this
%% In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of a possible assassin in his own ranks (that he observes over her comms but her presence like that could be...well a performance) This more than anything may help ease you into understanding his often overly stiff and reactionary attitude; though his trust and belief in her comes through in the end Samus, from his view, was looking as suspicious as he could be from our own
%% * At first, Adam's decision to [[spoiler: shoot Samus in the back]] seemed inexplicably horrible, many have even likened it to abuse and wondered why Adam didn't just [[spoiler: shoot the metroid larva]] instead but it makes sense if you think about it. [[spoiler: The metroid larva]] was acting calmly until after Adam already [[spoiler: shot Samus]] so he might have thought that [[spoiler: the larva wouldn't have attacked if left alone]] and, as far as he knew, [[spoiler: Samus was about to shoot at an unkillable metroid and get it angry at her]]. Granted, in retrospect, it was a stupid idea but it probably made sense to him at the time, especially in the heat of the moment.

9th Nov '15 7:39:14 PM SilenceInTheLibrary
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** A possible explanation about why [[spoiler:the baby Metroid in Super Metroid got so dang BIG: It was destined to be a Queen; how else do you think the scientists got a Queen's DNA patterns if their only source of said DNA was the remains on Samus's suit?]]

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** A possible explanation about why [[spoiler:the baby Metroid in Super Metroid got so dang BIG: It was destined to be a Queen; how else do you think the scientists got a Queen's DNA patterns if their only source of said DNA was the remains on Samus's suit?]]Queen.]]
3rd Oct '15 4:16:18 AM Xlsfd
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** We don't know how much time passed between Other M and Fusion. Maybe Samus took an older or newer suit model to SR388.
23rd Sep '15 1:40:25 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Other M just seems like a random subtitle until you notice as an acronym it reads "MOM". Also if you place the M before Other it reads "Mother" signifying Samus's "relationship" with the baby Metroid and [[spoiler:MB's relationship with Madeline Bergman]].

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* Other M just seems like a random subtitle until you notice as an acronym it reads "MOM". Also if you place the M before Other it reads "Mother" signifying Samus's "relationship" with the baby Metroid and [[spoiler:MB's relationship with Madeline Bergman]].
9th Aug '15 7:44:45 PM Drambrarcer
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** Ridley didn't come back from the dead though. This was just a clone, and not the first clone she had seem on the ship even. So no, it doesn't make sense because she should have anticipated the possibility.
* Alternately, she's freaking out because he's FORCING her to, with the same psychic power that he uses to control the space pirates and regain all his self-ness over multiple incarnations. Higgs is only not affected because he takes Ridley by surprise.

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** *** Ridley didn't come back from the dead though. This was just a clone, and not the first clone she had seem on the ship even. So no, it doesn't make sense because she should have anticipated the possibility.
* Alternately, ** It's also plausible that she's freaking out because he's FORCING her to, with the same psychic power that he uses to control the space pirates and regain all his self-ness over multiple incarnations. Higgs is only not affected because he takes Ridley by surprise.
9th Aug '15 7:43:42 PM Drambrarcer
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* Alternately, she's freaking out because he's FORCING her to, with the same psychic power that he uses to control the space pirates and regain all his self-ness over multiple incarnations. Higgs is only not affected because he takes Ridley by surprise.
2nd Jan '15 12:38:34 PM bassforte
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** Falls further in the implementation, all authorizations are treated like permanent upgrades which makes no sense in the narrative. For example, Samus is restricted from using the Wave Beam which follows a similar rational logic as the Power Bomb restriction in that its shots aren't easily stopped by solid walls so one stray shot could potentially harm a survivor or ally several rooms away. Samus is later contained in a glass box assaulted by Wave Beam like shots making her only way out being to return fire the same way and she gets the authorization, so far so good. But for the rest of the game you can use the Wave Beam freely because it was required that one single time. Authorizations aren't based on what is necessary for the mission at a given time like you'd expect, they're based on what is necessary at SOME point in the mission which makes it pretty clear that they had no intention at all at making the system make sense, they just wanted a throw away excuse for the Bag of Spilling format.
2nd Jan '15 12:27:17 PM bassforte
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*** That doesn't hold water. I can accept Samus willingly accepting the Authorization system just because she said she would, but there's just no good reason for restricting defensive gear. Going with what you said above, it makes far more sense for Adam to just say "I forbid you from going into the fire section" than it does to restrict the Varia suit which instead says "You can go into the fire area if you want but I want it to hurt you". Made worse in that he does eventually want her to go into the fire section but still restricts her.
8th Nov '14 11:05:59 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Ridley didn't come back from the dead though. This was just a clone, and not the first clone she had seem on the ship even. So no, it doesn't make sense because she should have anticipated the possibility.
8th Nov '14 11:03:58 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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*** That's stretching it extremely far.

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*** That's stretching it extremely far. The suit meant to defend individuals likely to suffer from Post Traumatic Stress in fact has a defect that prevents it from defending people suffering from Post Traumatic Stress? Proper explanation? Hardly, that just raises more questions.
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