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12th Feb '17 12:39:44 PM MarqFJA
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* Why was there no Miracle of Earth like there was a Miracle of Palaven? After all humans are supposed to be almost as formidable a military as the Turians, and they have been fighting the Reapers longer. So why is Earth considered fallen? The codex reveals why - the Systems Alliance is a representation of space programs and extra-terrestrial colonies. It is not a supranational government on Earth akin to the UN. The Alliance has direct authority over space fleets and colonies but not over Earth and its nation states' militaries. Those are still controlled by their respective governments. So even if Hackett wanted to, he would have faced an uphill battle convincing all these national militaries to unify and ward of a Reaper attack, and possibly even countermand the "lawful" orders of their civilian superiors who might be indoctrinated. Also the Alliance does not garrison colonies to be able to defend themselves outright. They station scouts who observe and report, then bug out and try to stay alive until the fleet arrives. The Turians on the other hand are 100% militarized. That is why they can hold on to Palaven - albeit with their infantry bolstered by Krogan and all their heavy logistics taken care of by the Quarians. Earth's forces are disorganized, routed and require someone to marshal them together. That is why Anderson stays behind - he knows someone needs to do this.
* Arcturus Station falls so easily because the Reapers used a gaping hole in human military doctrine against them. Arcturus is a jump off point for the fleets, very much like how a carrier is a jump off point for fighters. The fleets MO of lying in wait and responding to attacks is very much like aircraft on alert 5 or on BARCAP flying close to the mothership and sortying to a location if bogies are spotted. This is in effect a long range power projector. The issue with long range power projectors like carriers is that if a small force sneaks by the close in defenses, it can do a tremendous amount of damage. Similarly if some fleet were to swarm into the Arcturus system, it can catch the fleets there with little to no room to maneuver. The relays are probably deliberately placed at key locations by the Reapers to make Arcturus a poor spot to defend due to insufficient room to maneuver between the red supergiant and the relays. But then the Alliance expects a more conventional type of attack where border colonies like those in the Traverse or the Verge are attacked first before any move can be made on Arcturus. They expect any enemy to consolidate over a border colony and secure their supply line before pressing on, but won't get that chance due to a devastating response by a rapid reaction fleet. However when there is no attack on a border colony, due to the Reapers not needing to secure supply lines, this rapid reaction force is completely in the dark until the bogies are engaging them too close for comfort. It is as if a group of gunships bypassed all the fighters and got within firing range of the carrier. With no room to maneuver the carriers could be picked off. Once they're gone, the station is easy pickings.

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* Why was there no Miracle of Earth like there was a Miracle of Palaven? After all humans are supposed to be almost as formidable a military as the Turians, and they have been fighting the Reapers longer. So why is Earth considered fallen? The codex reveals why - the Systems Alliance is a representation of space programs and extra-terrestrial colonies. It is not a supranational government on Earth akin to the UN. The Alliance has direct authority over space fleets and colonies but not over Earth and its nation states' militaries. Those are still controlled by their respective governments. So even if Hackett wanted to, he would have faced an uphill battle convincing all these national militaries to unify and ward of off a Reaper attack, and possibly even countermand the "lawful" orders of their civilian superiors who might be indoctrinated. Also the Alliance does not garrison colonies to be able to defend themselves outright. They station scouts who observe and report, then bug out and try to stay alive until the fleet arrives. The Turians on the other hand are 100% militarized. That is why they can hold on to Palaven - albeit with their infantry bolstered by Krogan and all their heavy logistics taken care of by the Quarians. Earth's forces are disorganized, routed and require someone to marshal them together. That is why Anderson stays behind - he knows someone needs to do this.
* Arcturus Station falls so easily because the Reapers used a gaping hole in human military doctrine against them. Arcturus is a jump off point for the fleets, very much like how a carrier is a jump off point for fighters. The fleets fleets' MO of lying in wait and responding to attacks is very much like aircraft on alert 5 or on BARCAP flying close to the mothership and sortying to a location if bogies are spotted. This is in effect a long range power projector. The issue with long range power projectors like carriers is that if a small force sneaks by the close in close-in defenses, it can do a tremendous amount of damage. Similarly if some fleet were to swarm into the Arcturus system, it can catch the fleets there with little to no room to maneuver. The relays are probably deliberately placed at key locations by the Reapers to make Arcturus a poor spot to defend due to insufficient room to maneuver between the red supergiant and the relays. But then the Alliance expects a more conventional type of attack where border colonies like those in the Traverse or the Verge are attacked first before any move can be made on Arcturus. They expect any enemy to consolidate over a border colony and secure their supply line before pressing on, but won't get that chance due to a devastating response by a rapid reaction fleet. However when there is no attack on a border colony, due to the Reapers not needing to secure supply lines, this rapid reaction force is completely in the dark until the bogies are engaging them too close for comfort. It is as if a group of gunships bypassed all the fighters and got within firing range of the carrier. With no room to maneuver the carriers could be picked off. Once they're gone, the station is easy pickings.
18th Jan '17 5:14:03 PM Gorank
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* TheReveal of Brooks being the one who authored the various squadmates' dossiers in the second game, also explains a marked difference between your squadmates recruited pre-Horizon and post Horizon. The first batch are [[SociopathicSoldier Zaeed]], [[ClassyCatBurglar Kasumi]], [[TykeBomb Jack]], [[DesignerBabies Miranda]], [[MilitaryMaverick Jacob]], [[VigilanteMan Arkangel]], [[DeadlyDoctor Mordin]] and [[OldSoldier Okeer]]. Note that the majority of these people are humans, Arkangel's identity is initially unknown, leaving open the very slight possibility of him being a human as well, and two alien scientists, one of whom Shepard actually intends to turn over to Cerberus interrogators (Okeer). This makes sense, due to Brooks' complaint about breaking with the Illusive man over Cerberus working with aliens. Recruiting Garrus, Mordin and activating Grunt, was most likely what convinced her that Shepard and TIM weren't racist enough for Brooks. So, what does she do? She develops dossiers for Tali, who loathes Cerberus over the events of Literature/MassEffectAscension, and may not be inclined to cooperate with Shepard, Samara the [[ThePaladin justicar]] whose rigid code could also turn her against ashepard, and Thane [[YouSeeImDying who is dying you see,]] but that fact was conveniently omitted from the dossier, but is apparently well known enough that the Shadow Broker found out about it. In summary, this second batch of squadmates might be especially problematic for Shepard. This was Brooks saying to them "You want to work with those damned aliens? ''Fine!!'' Lets see you work with this group!"

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* TheReveal of Brooks being the one who authored the various squadmates' dossiers in the second game, also explains a marked difference between your squadmates recruited pre-Horizon and post Horizon. The first batch are [[SociopathicSoldier Zaeed]], [[ClassyCatBurglar Kasumi]], [[TykeBomb Jack]], [[DesignerBabies Miranda]], [[MilitaryMaverick Jacob]], [[VigilanteMan Arkangel]], [[DeadlyDoctor Mordin]] and [[OldSoldier Okeer]]. Note that the majority of these people are humans, Arkangel's identity is initially unknown, leaving open the very slight possibility of him being a human as well, and two alien scientists, one of whom Shepard actually intends to turn over to Cerberus interrogators (Okeer). This makes sense, due to Brooks' complaint about breaking with the Illusive man over Cerberus working with aliens. Recruiting Garrus, Mordin and activating Grunt, was most likely what convinced her that Shepard and TIM weren't racist enough for Brooks. So, what does she do? She develops dossiers for Tali, who loathes Cerberus over the events of Literature/MassEffectAscension, and may not be inclined to cooperate with Shepard, Samara the [[ThePaladin justicar]] whose rigid code could also turn her against ashepard, Shepard, and Thane [[YouSeeImDying who is dying you see,]] but that fact was conveniently omitted from the dossier, but is apparently well known enough that the Shadow Broker found out about it. In summary, this second batch of squadmates might be especially problematic for Shepard. This was Brooks saying to them "You want to work with those damned aliens? ''Fine!!'' Lets see you work with this group!"
15th Jan '17 5:45:48 AM manofwarb
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* TheReveal of Brooks being the one who authored the various squadmates' dossiers in the second game, also explains a marked difference between your squadmates recruited pre-Horizon and post Horizon. The first batch are [[SociopathicSoldier Zaeed]], [[ClassyCatBurglar Kasumi]], [[TykeBomb Jack]], [[DesignerBabies Miranda]], [[MilitaryMaverick Jacob]], [[VigilanteMan Arkangel]], [[DeadlyDoctor Mordin]] and [[OldSoldier Okeer]]. Note that the majority of these people are humans, Arkangel's identity is initially unknown, leaving open the very slight possibility of him being a human as well, and two alien scientists, one of whom Shepard actually intends to turn over to Cerberus interrogators (Okeer). This makes sense, due to Brooks' complaint about breaking with the Illusive man over Cerberus working with aliens. Recruiting Garrus, Mordin and activating Grunt, was most likely what convinced her that Shepard and TIM weren't racist enough for Brooks. So, what does she do? She develops dossiers for Tali, who loathes Cerberus over the events of Literature/MassEffectAscension, and may not be inclined to cooperate with Shepard, Samara the [[ThePaladin justicar]] whose rigid code could also turn her against ashepard, and Thane [[YouSeeImDying who is dying you see,]] but that fact was conveniently omitted from the dossier, but is apparently well known enough that the Shadow Broker found out about it. In summary, this second batch of squadmates might be especially problematic for Shepard. This was Brooks saying to them "You want to work with those damned aliens? ''Fine!!'' Lets see you work with this group!"
24th Dec '16 6:36:57 PM Zaptech
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*** "They needed it" has been an excuse used by rapists and rape apologists for a very long time. It wasn't right then, and it wouldn't be right to commit genetic rape in this context too. As for the extended cut showing no complaints, remember that EDI wanted to become human and Joker had {{Robosexual}} proclivities. So those two wouldn't mind this new synthesis. But would the billions of others?



*** The problem there, is that based on historical precedent, the catalyst did use cybernetics in pretty gruesome ways, such as bolting human parts onto batarians, bolting turian heads onto krogan, heavily altering rachni, sewing the Protheans mouths shut etc. Even in the Lazarus project, Miranda wanted to implant a control chip onto Shepard and had to be directly countermanded to not do it. Give someone that much control over a person's body, and chances are, they will abuse it. What is to prevent the catalyst from now and then forcing mass "upgrades" onto this new synthesized DNA on a whim?



*** That same extended cut coda shows the relays being repaired and galactic life returning to normal even in the Destroy ending where the Reapers are permanently deactivated. Therefore, Synthesis being the 'only' way for life to return to normal is debunked.



*** Or it could result in people going mad from excessive crosstalk and information overload. The Overlord DLC already gave us an example of how 'one' human, a technology oriented savant went crazy when plugged in to one subset of a geth network. How many more quiet introverted types who hate crowds will be driven mad? Or would it be acceptable for their new cybernetics to "fix" their introversion, thus destroying a unique important feature of themselves, just so they can fit into this brave new interconnected world?
24th Dec '16 12:00:01 AM CountDorku
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* In Citadel, how do the CAT-6 mercenaries know Garrus used to be Archangel? Simple - TheManBehindTheMan was in charge of maintaining the dossiers for Shepard's team in the second game, for a mission that could determine the fate of humanity. Naturally, the Illusive Man would keep his planning team well-informed regarding the team's composition, skills and talents - that way, weaknesses in the lineup can be patched and the overall arrangement strengthened. And thus, they can be bribed with minor and insignificant details to make them think they are uniquely well-informed, but which won't meaningfully impact their role as cannon fodder.
21st Dec '16 9:47:53 PM MonsieurThenardier
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* The final mission in Mass Effect 3 is gathering all your allies and invading the Reaper-held Earth, (spoiler?) making the Battle of London [[StealthPun the second Normandy invasion]]. Just like the first D-Day Normandy invasion in World War II, the battle for Earth is the largest joint invasion force in recorded history and is composed of numerous different groups of people. There are many parallels between the two Normandy invasions.
** The Reapers are the Nazi Germans. They are technologically superior to the other powers, obsessed with a form of organic purity, and commit genocide on a massive scale. They conquer almost all the other powers' homelands and are defeated when they push all their enemies together and underestimate them.
** The salarians:
*** The salarians are the Americans. A relatively small army, focusing more on technology and innovative strategies and special forces instead of brute strength. Like the salarians, the US homeland was relatively untouched by the Germans/Reapers in the war, though for different reasons.
** The turians are the USSR. A powerful militaristic empire ruled by a hierarchical "dictator" of sorts with a large and powerful military. Both the turians and the Russians have their homeland under siege for extremely long durations, only holding out through sheer stubbornness and force of will. Like the Russians, the turians refuse to provide aid to the Allied forces until their homeland is helped first.
** The humans are the French. Their homeland is conquered early on in the war, leaving only resistance fighters who use guerrilla warfare and sabotage tactics to harass the invaders. Though unable to provide large-scale military help, their intel on enemy movements prove to be invaluable to the war effort and the tide of the war is turned when their homeland is re-invaded by the Allied forces. They even have the same [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys reputation]], if Garrus' joke is any indication:
---> '''Garrus:''' All right, my turn. What's the first order an Alliance commander gives at the start of combat?\\
'''Joker:''' Uh...I give up.\\
'''Garrus:''' Correct!
** The asari partly resemble the British, especially early on in World War II. The asari were once the most advanced race, with large colonies spread throughout the galaxy. Early on in the war, the asari adopted an isolationist policy towards the invaders, until direct attacks forced them to change their viewpoint and join in the fight. Like the British, the asari are not focused on land forces but have some of the most powerful warships in the Allied navy.
** The batarians are the Polish. Knocked out of the fight the moment the war began, their military forces are under-powered and their government too slow to react to the invasion. The batarians provide almost nothing in the war and are effectively erased from the map.
** Cerberus can be argued to be the Italians. Previously a friend to the Allied forces (Italy supported the Allied forces in World War I), they have now semi-joined the invaders (Italy's Axis alliance with Germany). The leader of Cerberus is a man who is considered to be a hero by some and a monster by others. He believes that what he is doing is of his choosing but in reality, he is a puppet to the main invaders (Reapers/Germany). When his nation/base is conquered by the Allied forces, he flees but is ultimately caught and killed by who used to be his followers. (If ex-Cerberus Shepard pulled the trigger on him).
** The geth can also be argued to be the Italians. The geth idealize the Reapers, though the Reapers only allied with the geth through convenience, not necessity. However, due to blunders and mishaps, the geth end up setting back the Reaper's plans (Sovereign being destroyed and setting back the galactic invasion/ Italy's failed invasion of Greece which delayed the German invasion of the USSR). When the geth are defeated, they join the Allied forces and fight back against the Reapers (If you chose that path).
** The krogan:
*** The krogan are Jewish! ...sort of. Overpopulation, aggression, rebellions, and large armies aside. Krogans were seen negatively by most people and had confrontations with the turians, similar to the Russian pogroms targeting Jews in the 19th and 20th centuries. Like the Krogan, Jews were denied lands for expansion (though for obviously different reasons) and many wandered from the homeland to make a living elsewhere however they could. After much suffering and partial genocide, the krogans were given new hope for their future and their homeland back (if you cured the genophage), and krogans from all over the galaxy returned to rebuild their homeland, though hinted to still have unease and conflict in the future. Like the modern IDF (Israel Defense Forces), the krogans are one of the most capable and efficient military forces.
*** Since salarian females are rare and salarians consider science their most potent weapon, any Salarian screwing up a rival species' ability to bear offspring be the equivalent of ''[[{{Realpolitik}} America nuking Hiroshima]]''.
*** The krogan were uplifted by the American-analogue Salarians, just as Japan was close trading partners with pre-WWII America, but their culture was severely devastated by the deployment of devastating scientific weapons by the former ally, who unleashes on them a weapon that is both deadly and causes massive birth defects and death generations after the conflict.
** The quarians:
*** The quarians are much more clearly Jewish, and those who want to retake Rannoch are Zionists. They finally have a homeland within reach, but the group that is now living in the area claims that it is their land, and there is a conflict between the people whose land it was centuries ago and the people currently living there.
*** The Migrant Fleet, which is always getting turned away from anywhere that they wish to stop and is given limited supplies before being turned away is a direct reference to the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis MS St. Louis]]''.
*** While they are not on the front lines of the war, they are fighting to take back their homeland, and they are seen negatively, with the stereotypes of both Jews and Romani by most people and are hated and driven away everywhere, similar to the Russian pogroms targeting Jews in the 19th and 20th centuries.
*** Like the Quarians, Jews were denied lands for expansion (though for obviously different reasons) and there is a political movement to reclaim the homeland. After much suffering and partial genocide, the Quarians were given new hope for their future and their homeland back (if you side with them or make peace between them and the Geth), and settle in their sacred homeland, though hinted to still have discomfort and conflict with the other inhabitants in the future.
*** Another notable similarity is the specific form of the Quarian reverence of the idea of reclaiming their homeland. The phrase that has just about become their all-purpose blessing - "by the homeland I hope to see again", is extremely reminiscent of the Hebrew לשנה הבאה בירושלים הבנויה ("For/In the next year, in Jerusalem rebuilt"), featuring heavily in the holiday rituals of diaspora Jews and a significant one in Israel to this very day.
*** There's also the fact that they're stereotyped as being antisocial and physically weak, but intelligent, sneaky, and with fearsome technological skills - especially when it comes to straining the most firepower out of anything that could reasonably have any. The Migrant Fleet, with its millions of unshielded, civilian ships mounting dreadnaught-class mass drivers, is in this sense similar to the early renditions of the IDF, which constituted of little more than ''every single man, woman and child'' of a Jewish settlement picking up a gun and fighting for their lives.
** And just to round it off, the various other races (i.e. Hanar, Volus, Elcor, Drell, etc.) are the various Allied nations that didn't provide as much direct military aid as the main powers, but still supported the Allied forces in their own way.
** It could be argued that the Protheans were the ancient Romans, with their powerful military, an empire that covered most of the known world/galaxy, adoption of lesser species into the empire, and the Citadel as the capital of their empire (All roads/mass relays lead to Rome/the Citadel). Like the Romans, the Protheans' inability to adapt and change led to their destruction (West Rome anyways). And who ultimately destroyed the Western Roman Empire? The Goths, cultural and ethnic ancestors to the Germans!
** An alternate interpretation:
*** The humans and batarians are still the French and the Polish: their homeworld is completely overrun early on and they are reduced to guerrilla resistance, but they're still taking part in the attack on Earth with whatever forces they have left.
*** The turians are the British: they got hit hard by the Reapers too, but they managed to resist them. They also have a similar relation with the humans/French: there has been bad blood between them in the past, but now they are close allies.
*** The asari are the Americans: they didn't want to get involved at first, but changed their mind after a moral-shattering attack on their homeworld. Their contribution to the battle is on a par with the turians.
*** The salarians are the Canadians: they're not renowned for their military prowess, and their homeworld is largely untouched, but they're taking part in the battle anyway, even though their contribution is overshadowed by the turians and asari.
** Another interpretation of the "factions as countries"
*** The Reapers are Nazi Germany, which also makes the Leviathans the old conservative Prussian officer class. It was their values that got twisted into Nazism by Hitler who started out under their command, just like how the Catalyst started out under the Leviathans and then twisted their directives to create the Reapers. And just like how some Prussians formed the Widenstadt military resistance to quietly oppose Hitler, some Leviathans quietly still fight the Reapers.
*** The Collectors are the Italians. Why? Because the Protheans were SpaceRomans and just like how the Romans eventually became the Italians, the Protheans became the Collectors. And just like how Italy was knocked out in the middle stages of the war in Europe, the Collectors were similarly knocked out in the middle. And eventually just like how some Italians defected, some Awakened Collector Adepts fight on your side.
*** If the Quarians are SpaceJews, then the Geth are the Soviet Union. Just like how some Jewish people dabbled in Socialism, which eventually mutated into Communism, some Quarians dabbling in networked adaptive VI programs, morphed into the Geth. And just like how the Soviet Union would oppose the Zionist movement to reclaim Israel, the Geth would oppose Quarian efforts to retake Rannoch. Also, just like how Nazism was originally intended to oppose Socialism and Communism, the Reapers were originally created as a bulwark against synthetic life.
*** The Turians are the British empire - a very powerful military that has several "client race" colonies and are seen as the primary stabilizing military power in the region. And just like how the British empire was slowly stagnating due to being stuck in the old ways, so are the Turians. And just like how the miraculous victory at the Battle of Britain allowed the British to hold against a Nazi onslaught, the Miracle at Palaven allows the Turians to hold.
*** The Volus are colonial India. They don't really have any military ability themselves, relying on the Turians to guard their territory, just like how India required the British to protect it. The Volus are the primary economic engine of the Turians, with several individuals of the species being re known for business acumen, just like how India was at that time the prime mover of Britain's economy with many individual Indians excelling at economic pursuits. And just like how India was made a member of the League of Nations but had absolutely no real power, and bristled at not being taken seriously, the Volus are granted an embassy, but cannot influence the Council. And they are extremely unhappy about that.
*** The asari are the French, not the Alliance. Why? Because just like how France was born out of Gaul, which was for a long time a Roman vassal, then came into its own as the foremost major power before the rise of the British, the asari were once subjugated under Protheans, specifically Athame, Lucen, Janiri etc. The asari were the strongest most influential power for a very long time, before being overshadowed by the Turians. And just like the French in later times, the asari preferred cultural political domination over military annexation, and eventually partnered with the Turians to govern the Galaxy, just like how the British and French together dominated most of the world. Most tellingly, just like how the French were absolutely certain that the Maginot line will deter any enemy aggression and were flummoxed when it was easily countered by the Nazis, the asari placed too much emphasis on the Destiny Ascension's ability to deter attacks and were shocked when a single Reaper could easily get past it. And more so, just like how "French military victories" is a punchline, the asari military never being able to win any recent major war on their own also becomes a laughingstock and source of shame. And just like how losing France is a major body blow for the Allies, losing Thessia is a similar body blow. Which in turn makes Matriarch Aethyta the de Gaulle Expy. Both had a belligerent outlook and weren't taken seriously initially, but became very influential later on. Which could make Matriarch Benezia Phillipe Petain.
*** The Krogan are a cross between the South African Boers and the ex-Confederates in the United States. Both were formidable militaries, that then turned against their allies, both fought a long costly bloody war, which they got very close to winning, and both were ultimately defeated by the use of certain extreme measures (Sherman's March, concentration camps being the genophage) that are controversial to this day, both are grudgingly pacified but always talk about "rising again" to take just revenge. And just like how the Krogan needed a lot of unpopular political concessions to be made to get them into the fight, the Southern U.S. and South Africa needed similar unpopular political concessions to get them as allies.
*** The batarians are the Japanese. Once allied with the Council just like how Meiji Japan was allied with the West, they eventually became an isolated rogue state. The Japanese had an immense amount of social stratification just like Imperial Japan, they launched a campaign of enslavement just like imperial Japan, and just like how Imperial Japan allied with the Nazis, the Batarian hegemony was indoctrinated and was allied with the Reapers all the while. And just like how Japanese American expats fought on the allied side but were still viewed with suspicion and disdain, so we're Batarians who fought Reapers. And just like how the US using atomic weapons on Japan is still seen as a controversial act, so was blowing up a relay. Manchuria is the Skyllian Verge, Nanking was Mindoir, Pearl Harbor was Elysium and Okinawa or Iwo Jima could be considered Torfan.
*** The Elcor are Belgium. Just like how Belgium has heavy French influence, aren't much of a military or economic power, but are still there, the Elcor are a successful example of asari cultural influence, aren't that strong militarily or economically, but still show presence. And just like how Belgium fell without putting up much of a fight before France was hit, the Elcor were steamrolled before Thessia got hit.
*** The Hanar are the Vatican. Relatively small militarily but with a large amount of religiosity and the influence that comes with it. And just like how the Vatican traces its religion back to Rome, the hanar's beleifs are based on early Prothean influence. And just like how some Hanar got a little too cozy with the Reapers and did a lot of damage to their species, the Catholic Church at that time had its reputation sullied due to a perception of being a little too chummy with the Nazis.
*** Switzerland is the old Shadow Broker organization. Isolated, mysterious and neutral, it is later found out to also have been a little too chummy with the Nazis. Just like how the old Broker stayed neutral and isolated, but got a little too close to the Reapers via the Collectors.
*** Earth is Poland. Just like how Poland saw heavy emigration, briefly became prominent, then felt the full brunt of a blitzkrieg and suffered immensely throughout the war, Earth too saw heavy migration to various Alliance colonies, became briefly prominent, was then attacked in full force by the Reapers early and then endured a brutal occupation. More interestingly, Poland lost trust with the West after WW2 and it is similarly possible that there is a lot of resentment in Earth about being abandoned while the Alliance Navy focused more on holding certain colonies such as Eden Prime and Terra Nova.
*** This would therefore make the final battle in the Sol system, like the invasion of Normandy. But if the asari are the French, why make that association? Because the objective of that final battle wasn't to re conquer Earth, it was actually to seize back the Citadel. And since the Citadel has been asari territory for a long time that they share with others, this is actually retaking asari territory. And just like Poland couldn't be completely liberated without taking back France to launch into Germany, Earth couldn't be liberated until the Citadel was reclaimed in order to use it to complete the Crucible.

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* The final mission in Mass Effect 3 is gathering all your allies and invading the Reaper-held Earth, (spoiler?) making the Battle of London [[StealthPun the second Normandy invasion]]. Just like the first D-Day Normandy invasion in World War II, the battle for Earth is the largest joint invasion force in recorded history and is composed of numerous different groups of people. There are many parallels between the two Normandy invasions.
** The Reapers are the Nazi Germans. They are technologically superior to the other powers, obsessed with a form of organic purity, and commit genocide on a massive scale. They conquer almost all the other powers' homelands and are defeated when they push all their enemies together and underestimate them.
** The salarians:
*** The salarians are the Americans. A relatively small army, focusing more on technology and innovative strategies and special forces instead of brute strength. Like the salarians, the US homeland was relatively untouched by the Germans/Reapers in the war, though for different reasons.
** The turians are the USSR. A powerful militaristic empire ruled by a hierarchical "dictator" of sorts with a large and powerful military. Both the turians and the Russians have their homeland under siege for extremely long durations, only holding out through sheer stubbornness and force of will. Like the Russians, the turians refuse to provide aid to the Allied forces until their homeland is helped first.
** The humans are the French. Their homeland is conquered early on in the war, leaving only resistance fighters who use guerrilla warfare and sabotage tactics to harass the invaders. Though unable to provide large-scale military help, their intel on enemy movements prove to be invaluable to the war effort and the tide of the war is turned when their homeland is re-invaded by the Allied forces. They even have the same [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys reputation]], if Garrus' joke is any indication:
---> '''Garrus:''' All right, my turn. What's the first order an Alliance commander gives at the start of combat?\\
'''Joker:''' Uh...I give up.\\
'''Garrus:''' Correct!
** The asari partly resemble the British, especially early on in World War II. The asari were once the most advanced race, with large colonies spread throughout the galaxy. Early on in the war, the asari adopted an isolationist policy towards the invaders, until direct attacks forced them to change their viewpoint and join in the fight. Like the British, the asari are not focused on land forces but have some of the most powerful warships in the Allied navy.
** The batarians are the Polish. Knocked out of the fight the moment the war began, their military forces are under-powered and their government too slow to react to the invasion. The batarians provide almost nothing in the war and are effectively erased from the map.
** Cerberus can be argued to be the Italians. Previously a friend to the Allied forces (Italy supported the Allied forces in World War I), they have now semi-joined the invaders (Italy's Axis alliance with Germany). The leader of Cerberus is a man who is considered to be a hero by some and a monster by others. He believes that what he is doing is of his choosing but in reality, he is a puppet to the main invaders (Reapers/Germany). When his nation/base is conquered by the Allied forces, he flees but is ultimately caught and killed by who used to be his followers. (If ex-Cerberus Shepard pulled the trigger on him).
** The geth can also be argued to be the Italians. The geth idealize the Reapers, though the Reapers only allied with the geth through convenience, not necessity. However, due to blunders and mishaps, the geth end up setting back the Reaper's plans (Sovereign being destroyed and setting back the galactic invasion/ Italy's failed invasion of Greece which delayed the German invasion of the USSR). When the geth are defeated, they join the Allied forces and fight back against the Reapers (If you chose that path).
** The krogan:
*** The krogan are Jewish! ...sort of. Overpopulation, aggression, rebellions, and large armies aside. Krogans were seen negatively by most people and had confrontations with the turians, similar to the Russian pogroms targeting Jews in the 19th and 20th centuries. Like the Krogan, Jews were denied lands for expansion (though for obviously different reasons) and many wandered from the homeland to make a living elsewhere however they could. After much suffering and partial genocide, the krogans were given new hope for their future and their homeland back (if you cured the genophage), and krogans from all over the galaxy returned to rebuild their homeland, though hinted to still have unease and conflict in the future. Like the modern IDF (Israel Defense Forces), the krogans are one of the most capable and efficient military forces.
*** Since salarian females are rare and salarians consider science their most potent weapon, any Salarian screwing up a rival species' ability to bear offspring be the equivalent of ''[[{{Realpolitik}} America nuking Hiroshima]]''.
*** The krogan were uplifted by the American-analogue Salarians, just as Japan was close trading partners with pre-WWII America, but their culture was severely devastated by the deployment of devastating scientific weapons by the former ally, who unleashes on them a weapon that is both deadly and causes massive birth defects and death generations after the conflict.
** The quarians:
*** The quarians are much more clearly Jewish, and those who want to retake Rannoch are Zionists. They finally have a homeland within reach, but the group that is now living in the area claims that it is their land, and there is a conflict between the people whose land it was centuries ago and the people currently living there.
*** The Migrant Fleet, which is always getting turned away from anywhere that they wish to stop and is given limited supplies before being turned away is a direct reference to the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis MS St. Louis]]''.
*** While they are not on the front lines of the war, they are fighting to take back their homeland, and they are seen negatively, with the stereotypes of both Jews and Romani by most people and are hated and driven away everywhere, similar to the Russian pogroms targeting Jews in the 19th and 20th centuries.
*** Like the Quarians, Jews were denied lands for expansion (though for obviously different reasons) and there is a political movement to reclaim the homeland. After much suffering and partial genocide, the Quarians were given new hope for their future and their homeland back (if you side with them or make peace between them and the Geth), and settle in their sacred homeland, though hinted to still have discomfort and conflict with the other inhabitants in the future.
*** Another notable similarity is the specific form of the Quarian reverence of the idea of reclaiming their homeland. The phrase that has just about become their all-purpose blessing - "by the homeland I hope to see again", is extremely reminiscent of the Hebrew לשנה הבאה בירושלים הבנויה ("For/In the next year, in Jerusalem rebuilt"), featuring heavily in the holiday rituals of diaspora Jews and a significant one in Israel to this very day.
*** There's also the fact that they're stereotyped as being antisocial and physically weak, but intelligent, sneaky, and with fearsome technological skills - especially when it comes to straining the most firepower out of anything that could reasonably have any. The Migrant Fleet, with its millions of unshielded, civilian ships mounting dreadnaught-class mass drivers, is in this sense similar to the early renditions of the IDF, which constituted of little more than ''every single man, woman and child'' of a Jewish settlement picking up a gun and fighting for their lives.
** And just to round it off, the various other races (i.e. Hanar, Volus, Elcor, Drell, etc.) are the various Allied nations that didn't provide as much direct military aid as the main powers, but still supported the Allied forces in their own way.
** It could be argued that the Protheans were the ancient Romans, with their powerful military, an empire that covered most of the known world/galaxy, adoption of lesser species into the empire, and the Citadel as the capital of their empire (All roads/mass relays lead to Rome/the Citadel). Like the Romans, the Protheans' inability to adapt and change led to their destruction (West Rome anyways). And who ultimately destroyed the Western Roman Empire? The Goths, cultural and ethnic ancestors to the Germans!
** An alternate interpretation:
*** The humans and batarians are still the French and the Polish: their homeworld is completely overrun early on and they are reduced to guerrilla resistance, but they're still taking part in the attack on Earth with whatever forces they have left.
*** The turians are the British: they got hit hard by the Reapers too, but they managed to resist them. They also have a similar relation with the humans/French: there has been bad blood between them in the past, but now they are close allies.
*** The asari are the Americans: they didn't want to get involved at first, but changed their mind after a moral-shattering attack on their homeworld. Their contribution to the battle is on a par with the turians.
*** The salarians are the Canadians: they're not renowned for their military prowess, and their homeworld is largely untouched, but they're taking part in the battle anyway, even though their contribution is overshadowed by the turians and asari.
** Another interpretation of the "factions as countries"
*** The Reapers are Nazi Germany, which also makes the Leviathans the old conservative Prussian officer class. It was their values that got twisted into Nazism by Hitler who started out under their command, just like how the Catalyst started out under the Leviathans and then twisted their directives to create the Reapers. And just like how some Prussians formed the Widenstadt military resistance to quietly oppose Hitler, some Leviathans quietly still fight the Reapers.
*** The Collectors are the Italians. Why? Because the Protheans were SpaceRomans and just like how the Romans eventually became the Italians, the Protheans became the Collectors. And just like how Italy was knocked out in the middle stages of the war in Europe, the Collectors were similarly knocked out in the middle. And eventually just like how some Italians defected, some Awakened Collector Adepts fight on your side.
*** If the Quarians are SpaceJews, then the Geth are the Soviet Union. Just like how some Jewish people dabbled in Socialism, which eventually mutated into Communism, some Quarians dabbling in networked adaptive VI programs, morphed into the Geth. And just like how the Soviet Union would oppose the Zionist movement to reclaim Israel, the Geth would oppose Quarian efforts to retake Rannoch. Also, just like how Nazism was originally intended to oppose Socialism and Communism, the Reapers were originally created as a bulwark against synthetic life.
*** The Turians are the British empire - a very powerful military that has several "client race" colonies and are seen as the primary stabilizing military power in the region. And just like how the British empire was slowly stagnating due to being stuck in the old ways, so are the Turians. And just like how the miraculous victory at the Battle of Britain allowed the British to hold against a Nazi onslaught, the Miracle at Palaven allows the Turians to hold.
*** The Volus are colonial India. They don't really have any military ability themselves, relying on the Turians to guard their territory, just like how India required the British to protect it. The Volus are the primary economic engine of the Turians, with several individuals of the species being re known for business acumen, just like how India was at that time the prime mover of Britain's economy with many individual Indians excelling at economic pursuits. And just like how India was made a member of the League of Nations but had absolutely no real power, and bristled at not being taken seriously, the Volus are granted an embassy, but cannot influence the Council. And they are extremely unhappy about that.
*** The asari are the French, not the Alliance. Why? Because just like how France was born out of Gaul, which was for a long time a Roman vassal, then came into its own as the foremost major power before the rise of the British, the asari were once subjugated under Protheans, specifically Athame, Lucen, Janiri etc. The asari were the strongest most influential power for a very long time, before being overshadowed by the Turians. And just like the French in later times, the asari preferred cultural political domination over military annexation, and eventually partnered with the Turians to govern the Galaxy, just like how the British and French together dominated most of the world. Most tellingly, just like how the French were absolutely certain that the Maginot line will deter any enemy aggression and were flummoxed when it was easily countered by the Nazis, the asari placed too much emphasis on the Destiny Ascension's ability to deter attacks and were shocked when a single Reaper could easily get past it. And more so, just like how "French military victories" is a punchline, the asari military never being able to win any recent major war on their own also becomes a laughingstock and source of shame. And just like how losing France is a major body blow for the Allies, losing Thessia is a similar body blow. Which in turn makes Matriarch Aethyta the de Gaulle Expy. Both had a belligerent outlook and weren't taken seriously initially, but became very influential later on. Which could make Matriarch Benezia Phillipe Petain.
*** The Krogan are a cross between the South African Boers and the ex-Confederates in the United States. Both were formidable militaries, that then turned against their allies, both fought a long costly bloody war, which they got very close to winning, and both were ultimately defeated by the use of certain extreme measures (Sherman's March, concentration camps being the genophage) that are controversial to this day, both are grudgingly pacified but always talk about "rising again" to take just revenge. And just like how the Krogan needed a lot of unpopular political concessions to be made to get them into the fight, the Southern U.S. and South Africa needed similar unpopular political concessions to get them as allies.
*** The batarians are the Japanese. Once allied with the Council just like how Meiji Japan was allied with the West, they eventually became an isolated rogue state. The Japanese had an immense amount of social stratification just like Imperial Japan, they launched a campaign of enslavement just like imperial Japan, and just like how Imperial Japan allied with the Nazis, the Batarian hegemony was indoctrinated and was allied with the Reapers all the while. And just like how Japanese American expats fought on the allied side but were still viewed with suspicion and disdain, so we're Batarians who fought Reapers. And just like how the US using atomic weapons on Japan is still seen as a controversial act, so was blowing up a relay. Manchuria is the Skyllian Verge, Nanking was Mindoir, Pearl Harbor was Elysium and Okinawa or Iwo Jima could be considered Torfan.
*** The Elcor are Belgium. Just like how Belgium has heavy French influence, aren't much of a military or economic power, but are still there, the Elcor are a successful example of asari cultural influence, aren't that strong militarily or economically, but still show presence. And just like how Belgium fell without putting up much of a fight before France was hit, the Elcor were steamrolled before Thessia got hit.
*** The Hanar are the Vatican. Relatively small militarily but with a large amount of religiosity and the influence that comes with it. And just like how the Vatican traces its religion back to Rome, the hanar's beleifs are based on early Prothean influence. And just like how some Hanar got a little too cozy with the Reapers and did a lot of damage to their species, the Catholic Church at that time had its reputation sullied due to a perception of being a little too chummy with the Nazis.
*** Switzerland is the old Shadow Broker organization. Isolated, mysterious and neutral, it is later found out to also have been a little too chummy with the Nazis. Just like how the old Broker stayed neutral and isolated, but got a little too close to the Reapers via the Collectors.
*** Earth is Poland. Just like how Poland saw heavy emigration, briefly became prominent, then felt the full brunt of a blitzkrieg and suffered immensely throughout the war, Earth too saw heavy migration to various Alliance colonies, became briefly prominent, was then attacked in full force by the Reapers early and then endured a brutal occupation. More interestingly, Poland lost trust with the West after WW2 and it is similarly possible that there is a lot of resentment in Earth about being abandoned while the Alliance Navy focused more on holding certain colonies such as Eden Prime and Terra Nova.
*** This would therefore make the final battle in the Sol system, like the invasion of Normandy. But if the asari are the French, why make that association? Because the objective of that final battle wasn't to re conquer Earth, it was actually to seize back the Citadel. And since the Citadel has been asari territory for a long time that they share with others, this is actually retaking asari territory. And just like Poland couldn't be completely liberated without taking back France to launch into Germany, Earth couldn't be liberated until the Citadel was reclaimed in order to use it to complete the Crucible.
21st Dec '16 5:14:37 AM manofwarb
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*** "They needed it" has been an excuse used by rapists and rape apologists for a very long time. It wasn't right then, and it wouldn't be right to commit genetic rape in this context too. As for the extended cut showing no complaints, remember that EDI wanted to become human and Joker had {{Robosexual}} proclivities. So those two wouldn't mind this new synthesis. But would the billions of others?



*** The problem there, is that based on historical precedent, the catalyst did use cybernetics in pretty gruesome ways, such as bolting human parts onto batarians, bolting turian heads onto krogan, heavily altering rachni, sewing the Protheans mouths shut etc. Even in the Lazarus project, Miranda wanted to implant a control chip onto Shepard and had to be directly countermanded to not do it. Give someone that much control over a person's body, and chances are, they will abuse it. What is to prevent the catalyst from now and then forcing mass "upgrades" onto this new synthesized DNA on a whim?



** Four, and this could just be speculation, but: [[spoiler: depending on how it works, the synthetic 'framework' given to the races might well allow them to communicate with each other on an unprecedented level. Not just talk to each other; they might well be able to engage in a form of telepathy, using their synthetic pieces to convert their thoughts into raw data and send them to each other. They could communicate as individuals, or link up to form a geth-style consensus. At the very least, it gives everyone something to bond over.]] '''That''' is why the [[spoiler: Synthesis]] ending is presented as the best. [[spoiler: In all three endings, something old (the Relays, and in one, the Reapers) is destroyed. The Synthesis ending is the only one where something ''new'' is created in exchange. We don't know exactly what it will entail, but its potential is nearly limitless.]]

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*** That same extended cut coda shows the relays being repaired and galactic life returning to normal even in the Destroy ending where the Reapers are permanently deactivated. Therefore, Synthesis being the 'only' way for life to return to normal is debunked.
** Four, and this could just be speculation, but: [[spoiler: depending on how it works, the synthetic 'framework' given to the races might well allow them to communicate with each other on an unprecedented level. Not just talk to each other; they might well be able to engage in a form of telepathy, using their synthetic pieces to convert their thoughts into raw data and send them to each other. They could communicate as individuals, or link up to form a geth-style consensus. At the very least, it gives everyone something to bond over.]] ]]
*** Or it could result in people going mad from excessive crosstalk and information overload. The Overlord DLC already gave us an example of how 'one' human, a technology oriented savant went crazy when plugged in to one subset of a geth network. How many more quiet introverted types who hate crowds will be driven mad? Or would it be acceptable for their new cybernetics to "fix" their introversion, thus destroying a unique important feature of themselves, just so they can fit into this brave new interconnected world?
'''That''' is why the [[spoiler: Synthesis]] ending is presented as the best. [[spoiler: In all three endings, something old (the Relays, and in one, the Reapers) is destroyed. The Synthesis ending is the only one where something ''new'' is created in exchange. We don't know exactly what it will entail, but its potential is nearly limitless.]]
20th Dec '16 4:43:58 PM skadooshbag
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** One: [[spoiler: the template for this transformation is Commander Shepard him/herself, because they are partially synthetic thanks to the Lazarus Project. What was the purpose of the Lazarus Project? To recreate Commander Shepard ''exactly as he/she was,'' with no changes to his or her personality. So the change would exclusively apply to their bodies-- the personalities, memories, and individual identities of the new beings would not be altered at all, making the change much more palatable.]]
** Two: [[spoiler: because the Mass Relays are destroyed in every ending, the Synthesis ending may be the only way to subvert the FridgeHorror of the endings listed below. Turians and Quarians wouldn't necessarily have to worry about starving to death if their 'synthesis' upgrades allowed them to process the same kind of foods as the other species. Joker's brittle bone disease might be cured, or at least in the process of being cured, by the time he crash-lands. Joker is the only character we see the actual effects of the Synthesis on; his eyes glow, as do his veins, possibly implying nanomachines in his bloodstream. Whatever is happening, it's clear that the transformation is doing SOMETHING for him.]]
** Three, and this could just be speculation, but: [[spoiler: depending on how it works, the synthetic 'framework' given to the races might well allow them to communicate with each other on an unprecedented level. Not just talk to each other; they might well be able to engage in a form of telepathy, using their synthetic pieces to convert their thoughts into raw data and send them to each other. They could communicate as individuals, or link up to form a geth-style consensus. At the very least, it gives everyone something to bond over.]] '''That''' is why the [[spoiler: Synthesis]] ending is presented as the best. [[spoiler: In all three endings, something old (the Relays, and in one, the Reapers) is destroyed. The Synthesis ending is the only one where something ''new'' is created in exchange. We don't know exactly what it will entail, but its potential is nearly limitless.]]
** Four, synthesis may only be possible given what Legion does at the end of Act II, the Quarian-Geth conflict, [[spoiler: sacrificing himself to give all Geth individuality.]] In the extended cut, [[spoiler: the Catalyst]] says that it was tried before, but resisted. We don't know who exactly resisted it, organics or synthetics.

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**One, Fretting about forcing something on someone "without their consent" fails to consider that what someone ''needs'' is more important than what they ''want'', and fretting about "bodily autonomy" is imposing the values of a single human culture (and by the time the game actually takes place, a ''historical'' one at that) on the entire Galaxy. Besides, the extended ending DLC doesn't seem to show a lot of ''complaints'', now does it?
** One: Two: [[spoiler: the template for this transformation is Commander Shepard him/herself, because they are partially synthetic thanks to the Lazarus Project. What was the purpose of the Lazarus Project? To recreate Commander Shepard ''exactly as he/she was,'' with no changes to his or her personality. So the change would exclusively apply to their bodies-- the personalities, memories, and individual identities of the new beings would not be altered at all, making the change much more palatable.]]
** Two: Three: [[spoiler: because the Mass Relays are destroyed in every ending, the Synthesis ending may be the only way to subvert the FridgeHorror of the endings listed below. Turians and Quarians wouldn't necessarily have to worry about starving to death if their 'synthesis' upgrades allowed them to process the same kind of foods as the other species. Joker's brittle bone disease might be cured, or at least in the process of being cured, by the time he crash-lands. Joker is the only character we see the actual effects of the Synthesis on; his eyes glow, as do his veins, possibly implying nanomachines in his bloodstream. Whatever is happening, it's clear that the transformation is doing SOMETHING for him.]]
** Three, Four, and this could just be speculation, but: [[spoiler: depending on how it works, the synthetic 'framework' given to the races might well allow them to communicate with each other on an unprecedented level. Not just talk to each other; they might well be able to engage in a form of telepathy, using their synthetic pieces to convert their thoughts into raw data and send them to each other. They could communicate as individuals, or link up to form a geth-style consensus. At the very least, it gives everyone something to bond over.]] '''That''' is why the [[spoiler: Synthesis]] ending is presented as the best. [[spoiler: In all three endings, something old (the Relays, and in one, the Reapers) is destroyed. The Synthesis ending is the only one where something ''new'' is created in exchange. We don't know exactly what it will entail, but its potential is nearly limitless.]]
** Four, Five, synthesis may only be possible given what Legion does at the end of Act II, the Quarian-Geth conflict, [[spoiler: sacrificing himself to give all Geth individuality.]] In the extended cut, [[spoiler: the Catalyst]] says that it was tried before, but resisted. We don't know who exactly resisted it, organics or synthetics.
20th Dec '16 3:57:52 PM Zaptech
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*** Yeah, but germans were inferior technologically to allies



*** Oh, please. The Americans prevailed on [[MoreDakka vast industrial and logistics capability, massive amounts of heavy artillery, and lots and lots of bombers.]] There was nothing at all subtle or clever about US ground tactics, which were crude compared to the Germans.
*** Americans fielded second largest army in war, bigger even than Germans
*** Mordin describes the genophage in detail: it essentially rewires glands in the bodies of krogan females that control fetal growth, causing deformities that are lethal to 999/1000 of the resulting offspring - the genetic equivalent of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teratology#Teratogenesis teratogenesis]] I.E. ''thalidomide babies.'' That seems a pretty sick thing for a matriarchal society to do to someone, until you think hard about salarian civilization; males compete for the right to sire progeny on females, and females barter breeding rights as the source of their authority - ''[[NotSoDifferent just like post-genophage krogan]].'' Salarian females ''aren't'' {{Mama Bear}}s. Given the rarity of salarian females and how salarians consider science their most potent weapon, wouldn't a Dalatrass screwing up a rival female's ability to bear offspring be the equivalent of ''[[{{Realpolitik}} America nuking Hiroshima]]?''



*** Alternatively, the Krogan are [[AnachronismStew anachronistic post-WWII Japanese]]
20th Dec '16 3:47:45 PM skadooshbag
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*** Oh, please. The Americans prevailed on vast industrial and logistics capability, massive amounts of heavy artillery, and lots and lots of bombers. There was nothing at all subtle or clever about US ground tactics, which were crude compared to the Germans.

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*** Oh, please. The Americans prevailed on [[MoreDakka vast industrial and logistics capability, massive amounts of heavy artillery, and lots and lots of bombers. bombers.]] There was nothing at all subtle or clever about US ground tactics, which were crude compared to the Germans.
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