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31st Jan '16 8:58:23 AM Luigifan
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* [[WorldOfSymbolism Yet another subtle bit of symbolism I noticed]]: [[spoiler: In the first game, Giygas is a humanoid alien that could well be described as resembling a mammalian embryo.]] In the second game, much more infamously, [[spoiler:he takes on a form with imagery symbolic of a fetus]]. And, by game three, [[spoiler:his evil has manifested itself in Porky, a human child]].
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* [[WorldOfSymbolism Yet another subtle bit of symbolism I noticed]]: [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the first game, Giygas is a humanoid alien that could well be described as resembling a mammalian embryo.]] In the second game, much more infamously, [[spoiler:he takes on a form with imagery symbolic of a fetus]]. And, by game three, [[spoiler:his evil has manifested itself in Porky, a human child]].

** Polly is a common nickname for Mary or Maria
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** Polly is a common nickname for Mary or MariaMaria.

* At first, you're thinking, [[spoiler: Hey, Maria's not dead after all! In fact, she's been Queen Mary all along, everything's gonna be alright.]] But then you realize [[spoiler: Oh, wait- she was kidnapped and placed in a completely remote, barren area for supposedly the rest of her life with only her imagination to keep her company.]] ** [[spoiler: It's even worse, as it is heavily implied in the original version that Giygas himself killed Maria after freaking out because of her song, and imprisoned her mind within Magicant, probably believing that to be an act of mercy on his behalf.]]
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* At first, you're thinking, [[spoiler: Hey, [[spoiler:Hey, Maria's not dead after all! In fact, she's been Queen Mary all along, everything's gonna be alright.]] But then you realize [[spoiler: Oh, wait- [[spoiler:oh, wait -- she was kidnapped and placed in a completely remote, barren area for supposedly the rest of her life with only her imagination to keep her company.]] ** [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's even worse, as it is heavily implied in the original version that Giygas himself killed Maria after freaking out because of her song, and imprisoned her mind within Magicant, probably believing that to be an act of mercy on his behalf.]]

** One better- - the term DeusExMachina means something along the lines of "god from the machine," but here it's the other way around. The "god" or source of divine intervention is the player, who is ''outside'' the game machine. An interesting reversal. --Tropers/DominusTemporis
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** One better- - better -- the term DeusExMachina means something along the lines of "god from the machine," but here it's the other way around. The "god" or source of divine intervention is the player, who is ''outside'' the game machine. An interesting reversal. --Tropers/DominusTemporis

* The first time you fight Master Belch, you can (and must) use "Fly Honey" to distract and defeat him. Later, he comes back for a rematch as the bright pink Master Barf, and "Fly Honey" no longer works on him. In the same area as the rematch, you can find Demonic Petunias, which both in and out of battle greatly resemble a Rafflesia, or corpse flower. These flowers smell like rotting flesh to attach flies in order to exchange their pollen amongst each other. They also happen to be a bright red color. That's why Master Barf is immune to "Fly Honey;" he's been gorging himself on the source of the stuff. --Tropers/Altimadark ** Could be Fridge Logic as well though, since Master Belch is [[spoiler:first fought in a factory where he forces Mr.Saturns to make Fly Honey]], so he'd be just as near to a source of his addiction in both situations.
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* The first time you fight Master Belch, you can (and must) use "Fly Honey" to distract and defeat him. Later, he comes back for a rematch as the bright pink Master Barf, and "Fly Honey" no longer works on him. In the same area as the rematch, you can find Demonic Petunias, which both in and out of battle greatly resemble a Rafflesia, or corpse flower. These flowers smell like rotting flesh to attach attract flies in order to exchange their pollen amongst each other. They also happen to be a bright red color. That's why Master Barf is immune to "Fly Honey;" he's been gorging himself on the source of the stuff. --Tropers/Altimadark ** Could be Fridge Logic as well though, since Master Belch is [[spoiler:first fought in a factory where he forces Mr. Saturns to make Fly Honey]], so he'd be just as near to a source of his addiction in both situations.

* In Mother 3 Duster's weapon list includes a Rope Snake, and Wall Staples. It's just a pun on the board game, Snakes and Ladders! * The [[spoiler:Absolutely Safe Capsule]] that [[spoiler:Porky]] hides in seems flawed at first, since it is inescapable. Then you realize how the name of the [[spoiler: Capsule]] and think about how crazy [[spoiler:Porky]] is, and realize. The [[spoiler:Capsule isn't meant to protect Porky,]] it [[spoiler:traps him inside, keeping everyone absolutely safe from HIM!]]
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* In Mother 3 3, Duster's weapon list includes a Rope Snake, and Wall Staples. It's just a pun on the board game, Snakes and Ladders! * The [[spoiler:Absolutely Safe Capsule]] that [[spoiler:Porky]] hides in seems flawed at first, since it is inescapable. Then you realize how the name of the [[spoiler: Capsule]] [[spoiler:Capsule]] and think about how crazy [[spoiler:Porky]] is, and realize. The [[spoiler:Capsule isn't meant to protect Porky,]] it [[spoiler:traps him inside, keeping everyone absolutely safe from HIM!]]

* That [[spoiler:Dr Andonuts]] would be kidnapped and forced to make the chimeras makes more sense when you remember [[spoiler: he already had experience doing that in [=EarthBound=]. Dungeon Man was his first mechanical chimera, followed by the chosen four's robot bodies.]] Of course, those subjects were willing...
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* That [[spoiler:Dr Andonuts]] would be kidnapped and forced to make the chimeras makes more sense when you remember [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he already had experience doing that in [=EarthBound=]. Dungeon Man was his first mechanical chimera, followed by the chosen four's robot bodies.]] Of course, those subjects were willing...

* When Duster attacks the sound that plays is a bass guitar. When he plays in DCMC he actually plays bass.
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* When Duster attacks the sound that plays is a bass guitar. When he plays in DCMC DCMC, he actually plays bass.

* Just... What did Porky do to brainwash [[spoiler: Claus into becoming the Masked Man]]? And it apparently was so bad that he had to [[spoiler: kill himself in order to be free. Or he was thinking, "MyGodWhatHaveIDone"]]. What makes this even worse is that this happens to a KID WHO'S NO OLDER THAN 13! * More of a Fridge TearJerker, but imagine how Kumatora must feel when her parental figures, the Magypsies, [[spoiler: all fade out of existence one by one due to either Lucas or the Masked Man pulling their needles and she even having to assist Lucas in this quest. We can even see a bit of sadness from her after Ionia is gone.]]
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* Just... What did Porky do to brainwash [[spoiler: Claus [[spoiler:Claus into becoming the Masked Man]]? And it apparently was so bad that he had to [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill himself in order to be free. Or he was thinking, "MyGodWhatHaveIDone"]]. What makes this even worse is that this happens to a KID WHO'S NO OLDER THAN 13! * More of a Fridge TearJerker, but imagine how Kumatora must feel when her parental figures, the Magypsies, [[spoiler: all [[spoiler:all fade out of existence one by one due to either Lucas or the Masked Man pulling their needles and she even having to assist Lucas in this quest. We can even see a bit of sadness from her after Ionia is gone.]]


* Okay, since this is [[WorldOfSymbolism MOTHER]], this could very well be under FridgeBrilliance depending on how you look at it, but it'll be put here here for simplicity's sake. So, the dragon? [[spoiler: The gigantic, world-defining dragon resting underneath the Nowhere Islands?]] It's got the needles stuck in its hide, right? Well,[[spoiler: the final needle is underneath New Pork City. And New Pork City is on a chunk of rock suspended several hundred feet above the ground. There's no way that needle could still be touching the dragon at that altitude.]]
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* Okay, since this is [[WorldOfSymbolism MOTHER]], this could very well be under FridgeBrilliance depending on how you look at it, but it'll be put here here for simplicity's sake. So, the dragon? [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The gigantic, world-defining dragon resting underneath the Nowhere Islands?]] It's got the needles stuck in its hide, right? Well,[[spoiler: the Well, [[spoiler:the final needle is underneath New Pork City. And New Pork City is on a chunk of rock suspended several hundred feet above the ground. There's no way that needle could still be touching the dragon at that altitude.]]

** It's possible they have other criminals in the Nowhere Islands, considering there's at least one jail in-game, so it's entirely possible he saw movies that involved a prison breakout. Alternatively, [[{{fridgehorror}} during Halloween, it's a common occurrence for adults to put razor blades and other sharp objects inside fruits or candy for children...]]
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** It's possible they have other criminals in the Nowhere Islands, considering there's at least one jail in-game, so it's entirely possible he saw movies that involved a prison breakout. Alternatively, [[{{fridgehorror}} [[FridgeHorror during Halloween, it's a common occurrence for adults to put razor blades and other sharp objects inside fruits or candy for children...]]

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** It's possible they have other criminals in the Nowhere Islands, considering there's at least one jail in-game, so **** And it's entirely possible he saw movies that involved a prison breakout. Alternatively, [[{{fridgehorror}} during Halloween, it's not even a common occurrence for adults to put razor blades and other sharp objects inside fruits or candy for children...]]occurrence, just a [[YouCanPanicNow crazy]] UrbanLegend.
24th Jan '16 7:45:27 AM zerohelix
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* Lucas lost his mother and was all but abandoned by his father in favour of reuniting with his other child -just like ''Giygas''.
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* Lucas lost his mother and was all but abandoned by his father in favour of reuniting with his other child -just - just like ''Giygas''.

* So did pulling Locria's needle give Lucas another PK Love? What would that be called? PK Love ψ perhaps?
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* So did pulling Locria's needle give Lucas another PK Love? What would that even be called? PK Love ψ perhaps?
24th Jan '16 7:42:25 AM zerohelix
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\n* Lucas lost his mother and was all but abandoned by his father in favour of reuniting with his other child -just like ''Giygas''.
17th Jan '16 5:20:19 PM Aquillion
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** A much simpler explanation is that Fassad would have spent far more time with the Masked Man than low-ranking Pig Troopers, so he'd recognize him better. And he'd be more likely to know that [[spoiler:he has a twin brother.]]
26th Dec '15 3:59:03 AM zerohelix
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* So did pulling Locria's needle give Lucas another PK Love? What would that be called? PK Love ψ perhaps?
29th Nov '15 5:01:22 PM Logoncal21
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** Porky is, sadly, immortal. He can't age due to time travel abuse and that spider mech he lays on is probably "feeding" him.
29th Nov '15 4:54:36 PM Logoncal21
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** That's not the worst part. You see, Giygas can only use Rockin'/Kiai Alpha and Beta, which aren't very strong. Ness's Nightmare can use Rockin'/Kiai Omega. '''Imagine now his nightmarish yelling when attacking with a ultra-powerful psychic power.'''
8th Nov '15 10:17:12 AM CptnLhurgoyf
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* The Happy Happyists' Ku Klux Klan-inspired garb makes a lot more sense when you realise [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything they're obsessed with the superiority of a given color and wish everything was colored that way.]]
2nd Oct '15 10:39:16 PM SPBurke
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** Giygas became truly evil after he was separated from Maria, but the pain of her memory still exists in him. What if it's the opposite? What if deep down he still wants friends and to be loved? What if, when mimicking Ness' face, he was just trying to say hello?
19th Sep '15 3:00:43 AM devilish21885
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* How does Giygas communicate in his mindlessness? Is he speaking aloud or, more likely, through PSI? This means, to Ness, itís either the raving of a lunatic or a constant barrage of mental screams to go along with the physical pain Giygas inflicts on him and his friends.
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