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21st Sep '17 6:53:20 PM spiderfreak1011
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* '''All the final boss fights.''' In each of the games, despite the fact that you pretty much beat the crap out of all your enemies prior to the final boss battles with baseball bats, guns, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking frying pans]], and PsychicPowers, the actual final boss isn't like that at all.

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* '''All the final boss fights.''' In each of the games, despite the fact that you pretty much beat the crap out of all your enemies prior to the final boss battles with baseball bats, guns, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking frying pans]], and PsychicPowers, the actual final boss usually isn't like that at all.
21st Sep '17 6:52:41 PM spiderfreak1011
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* Towards the end of Chapter 1, when Flint and Alec meet the Magypsies and they tell them that [[spoiler: Claus showed up not too long earlier, and they directed him to where the Drago Plateau was]], Aeolia mentions how they taught him a "very powerful PSI Technique" before he left, and that he wouldn't be able to use it very easily. Now, upon replay and knowing that [[spoiler: Claus after this becomes the Masked Man who can use PK Love and pull the needles]], you might be inclined to believe this very powerful PSI technique [[spoiler: Claus]] learned was PK Love, since it s a very strong move and something only he and one other person can use. But if you think deeper into it, Ionia and the other Magypsies made a big deal about the fact that Lucas could learn PK Love to begin with, as not even they can use that PSI technique, and they realized it signaled that [[spoiler: people who could pull their needles had finally appeared to fulfill the prophecy.]] Yet, Aeolia says it very casually, as if what she taught [[spoiler: Claus]] was something than any of the Magypsies were capable of. So, what other PSI does he have later on that is known for being very powerful? He has his Infamous One Hit KO Thunder attack, which is something not even Kumatora was taught. (It's implied with Kumatora that extremely powerful PSI techniques like that were not taught to her because they were dangerous and difficult to master.) And like Aeolia said, the technique [[spoiler: Claus]] learns is something he wouldn't be able to use very easily, and was something they were able to teach to him and unlike Kumatora, didn't have any qualms about doing so, as they clearly didn't care for his life and how he was so willing to throw it away for revenge. So, it's not a stretch to say that the move that Aeolia taught [[spoiler: Claus]] and by extension, The Masked Man, was his powerful Thunder technique.
** Further evidence to prove this is, when Lucas has his PSI awakened in Chapter 4, Ionia never teaches him how to use PK Love, Lucas just automatically unlocks the capability to use it once he awakens to his power. So, if the way [[spoiler: Claus]] learned PK Love was similar to Lucas's, then he would've automatically unlocked the power of PK Love once he was awakened to his Psychic potential as well, and wouldn't have been something that Aeolia could've taught to him. Which only leaves the Thunder technique as for what she could've taught [[spoiler: Claus.]]
14th Sep '17 6:44:02 PM tropette
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* Remember the bells in Tazmily Village, and how [[spoiler:they prevented the villagers' memories of the old destroyed world from reverting? Well, Leder isn't ringing the bell anymore. All those memories are coming back. And if you've read ''TheGiver'', you know what that's like.]]
13th Sep '17 7:21:40 PM nombretomado
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** New Pork City being a mass of floating rock is only shown in SuperSmashBros. It's shown in-game that NPC rests in a mountain

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** New Pork City being a mass of floating rock is only shown in SuperSmashBros.''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. It's shown in-game that NPC rests in a mountain
7th Aug '17 10:03:01 PM spiderfreak1011
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** It may not be neccessarily unintentional, you gotta remember, Mother 3 was originally supposed to be on N64, as Mother 3: Fall of the Pig King, which started development only 2 years after Earthbound in 1997, so Itoi could've potentially planned that far ahead given how it started development very soon after.



* In the last verse of the Lyrics for the Love Theme, where Hinawa says "If I call out, he'll turn around. Give light to the small one who walks his path alone.", people might assume she's referring to [[spoiler: Claus, who's been alone ever since he set out on his path to avenge his mom and got turned into a Cyborg, and she's trying to bring him back from Porky's control.]] But, if you think about it, the last verse can apply to Lucas just as much. He may not have been alone on his journey, or even when he was grieving prior to the timeskip (thanks Boney), but asides from Claus, Lucas still suffered the most out of anyone in the game by far. Even if he had friends by his side and supporting him, he still had to shoulder all of that pain and sadness he's experienced on his own, as no one else had suffered to the same degree that he has. Not to mention the weight on his shoulders of being the only one besides [[spoiler: his brainwashed brother]] who could pull the last needle and remake the world into one without evil and suffering. Hinawa isn't singing just about her trying to save Claus, she's also trying to give her strength and love to her other son, the one who's been through so much pain and has been so strong to keep going and do what's right despite the terrible things that have happened to him. - Spiderfreak1011

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* In the last verse of the Lyrics for the Love Theme, where Hinawa says "If I call out, he'll turn around. Give light to the small one who walks his path alone.", people might assume she's referring to [[spoiler: Claus, who's been alone ever since he set out on his path to avenge his mom and got turned into a Cyborg, and she's trying to bring him back from Porky's control.]] But, if you think about it, the last verse can apply to Lucas just as much. He may not have been alone on his journey, or even when he was grieving prior to the timeskip (thanks Boney), but asides from Claus, Lucas still suffered the most out of anyone in the game by far. Even if he had friends by his side and supporting him, he still had to shoulder all of that pain and sadness he's experienced on his own, as no one else had suffered to the same degree that he has or lost as much he has. This especially becomes painfully clear on the trip to Tanetane Island, when most of the hallucinations are based on his own fears/trauma and very few haunt Duster and Kumatora. Not to mention he has the weight on his shoulders of being the only one besides [[spoiler: his brainwashed brother]] who could pull the last needle and remake the world into one without evil and suffering. Hinawa isn't singing just about her trying to save Claus, she's also trying to give her strength and love to her other son, the one who's been through so much pain and has been so strong to keep going and do what's right right, despite the terrible things that have happened to him. - Spiderfreak1011



* Why do you only get Kumatora's PK Ground at level 60, after a ton of level-grinding? Because you ''ground''.

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* Why do you only get Kumatora's PK Ground at level 60, after a ton of level-grinding? Because you ''ground''.''ground'' her up to that point.


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** By that same token, that would mean that what Ninten and his friends and Ness and his friends did to stop Giygas and save the world [[spoiler: was AllForNothing, as while Aliens didn't end up conquering the world, the people our heroes were protecting, ''Humankind'', destroyed the world instead.]] Even worse, there's a very likely possibility that [[spoiler: the end of the world]] happened within the lifetimes of Ninten and Ness and their friends, meaning that [[spoiler: they most likely died when the world ended like most of Earth's population.]]
7th Aug '17 9:45:10 PM spiderfreak1011
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** To elaborate, starting off with ''[[VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings EarthBound Beginnings / Mother]]'', [[spoiler:when you fight Giygas, you don't just throw all of your attacks at him and have an [[EasternRPG epic turn based battle.]] In fact, you don't throw any punches at all. You're not ''supposed'' to, anyway. What you '''are''' supposed to do, is sing the "Eight Melodies" you gathered on your journey to Giygas. He constantly interrupts you, but the intervals at which he cuts you off come later and later until you finish the song and he decides to run away.]]

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** To elaborate, starting off with ''[[VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings EarthBound Beginnings / Mother]]'', [[spoiler:when you fight Giygas, you don't just throw all of your attacks at him and have an [[EasternRPG epic turn based battle.]] In fact, you don't throw any punches at all. You're not ''supposed'' to, anyway. What you '''are''' supposed to do, is sing the "Eight Melodies" you gathered on your journey to Giygas. Giygas, the one that Maria, the "Mother" who raised him, sung to him as a baby. He constantly interrupts you, but the intervals at which he cuts you off come later and later until you finish the song and, overwhelmed by his emotions of abandonment and love for his Mother and his duty to his race, he decides to run away.]]



** The final boss battle of ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}'' (and even the penultimate boss battle) do not definitively end with Lucas and the gang beating the opponent. When you fight [[spoiler:Porky (aka the same Pokey Minch that fled via time travel in Videogame/EarthBound), after taking enough damage, he ends up locking himself in the Absolutely Safe Capsule]]. [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin It lives up to its name]]. And the '''final''' boss battle against the Masked Man [[spoiler:(aka Claus)]] isn't quite a boss battle. The Masked Man fires an intense bolt of lightning at the gang, which knocks out everyone except for Lucas, only because of the recently polished Franklin Badge. Lucas can't will himself to attack at all [[spoiler:up until the point where the Masked Man fires PK Love at him... [[HeroicSacrifice and their father keeps BOTH shots from hitting Lucas.]]]] Meanwhile, you have [[spoiler:Hinawa's ghost]] trying to bring [[spoiler:Claus]] back to his senses, and she fails the first couple of times. Until she succeeds, the Masked Man is pretty much [[CurbStompBattle kicking your ass]], with the only thing you can find yourself able to do is block and heal yourself. [[spoiler:Claus comes to his senses, dealing lower and lower damage until it becomes pitiful single digit damage. [[HeroicSacrifice Finally, before he sinks back into his brainwashing, he shoots at Lucas, knowing full well that his Franklin Badge is going to reflect it full force back at him.]]]] [[FakeUltimateHero Truly, the protagonists never actually defeat]] the FinalBoss -- [[spoiler:the FinalBoss either flees, gets killed from a CombinedEnergyAttack, or ''kill themselves''.]]

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** The final boss battle of ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}'' (and even the penultimate boss battle) do not definitively end with Lucas and the gang beating the opponent. When you fight [[spoiler:Porky (aka the same Pokey Minch that fled via time travel in Videogame/EarthBound), after taking enough damage, he ends up locking himself in the Absolutely Safe Capsule]]. [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin It lives up to its name]]. And the '''final''' boss battle against the Masked Man [[spoiler:(aka Claus)]] isn't quite a boss battle. The Masked Man fires an intense bolt of lightning at the gang, which knocks out everyone except for Lucas, only because of the recently polished Franklin Badge. Lucas can't will himself to attack at all [[spoiler:up until the point where the Masked Man fires PK Love at him... [[HeroicSacrifice and their father keeps BOTH shots from hitting Lucas.]]]] Meanwhile, you have [[spoiler:Hinawa's ghost]] trying to bring [[spoiler:Claus]] back to his senses, and she fails the first couple of times. Until she succeeds, the Masked Man is pretty much [[CurbStompBattle kicking your ass]], with the only thing you can find yourself able to do is block and heal yourself. [[spoiler:Claus comes to his senses, dealing lower and lower damage until it becomes pitiful single digit damage. [[HeroicSacrifice Finally, before he sinks back into his brainwashing, brainwashing and realizing the gravity of what he's done, as well as the desire to be with his Mother again, he shoots at Lucas, knowing full well that his Franklin Badge is going to reflect it full force back at him.]]]] [[FakeUltimateHero Truly, the protagonists never actually defeat]] the FinalBoss -- [[spoiler:the FinalBoss either flees, gets killed from a CombinedEnergyAttack, or ''kill themselves''.are defeated by their own emotions.]]
6th Aug '17 12:03:42 PM WaterBlap
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* Another [[spoiler:Porky]] one, but more related to gameplay. [[spoiler:He constantly brags about his immortality during the battle with him. If you use cheats to fight him outside of when you're supposed to, he will never die, no matter how many times you use Pk Love Omega, Starstorm, or Ground.]] TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything, perhaps?

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* Another [[spoiler:Porky]] one, but more related to gameplay. [[spoiler:He constantly brags about his immortality during the battle with him. If you use cheats to fight him outside of when you're supposed to, he will never die, no matter how many times you use Pk Love Omega, Starstorm, or Ground.]] TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything, perhaps?
15th Apr '17 8:55:02 AM Blazer999
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* Why did the Pigmasks assume that Lucas was The Masked Man? Because they've never seen him without his mask. They just assumed from Lucas' similar build that he was their commander in his casual uniform.
9th Apr '17 9:03:02 AM ParaBeetleX
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* Why is The Masked Man's battle background the same as Evil Mani Mani? Because they both have one thing in common: corruption. Evil Mani Mani spread Giygas' corruption, and ultimately led to [[spoiler:Pokey/Porky's]] rise to evil. The Masked Man, however, is a VICTIM of corruption, having been [[spoiler:brought back from near death, reshaped into an emotionless cyborg with barely a sliver of Claus left inside.]]
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