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29th Aug '17 10:42:29 PM PaulA
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* Ben is originally the show's resident MagnificentBastard. However he suffers a massive VillainousBSOD after [[spoiler: his daughter is killed by Keamy, a mercenary hired by his enemy Charles Widmore, and again after he discovers he's been the UnwittingPawn to the Man in Black the whole time]], and as a result VillainDecay as well [[spoiler: leading to his HeelFaceTurn]]. However at the end of the series [[spoiler: he appears to pull a FaceHeelTurn by becoming TheDragon to the Man in Black and betraying Widmore before finally killing him, then seemingly agreeing to kill the remaining survivors for MiB, and during this time MiB tells him about the boat he plans on using to escape the Island. However it's revealed that Ben was a FakeDefector who immediately returned to the survivor's side after MiB went to the heart of the Island without him and he saves Hurley from being crushed by a tree. While stuck under the tree, Ben tells Kate about MIB's boat in order to help them escape, but it's also likely that he knew MIB would be heading there too, and that the survivors, especially Kate, wanted to kill him to avenge the deaths of their friends on the sub. Sure enough, Kate shows up in the nick of time to stop MiB from killing Jack, which leads to the Man in Black's death. So not only did he outgambit his enemy who was at least partially responsible for his adopted daugther's death, but he also outgambits the SMOKE MONSTER, who had used him as a pawn for years, showing that even after pulling a HeelFaceTurn, he was still a MagnificentBastard.]]

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* Ben is originally the show's resident MagnificentBastard. However he suffers a massive VillainousBSOD after [[spoiler: his daughter is killed by Keamy, a mercenary hired by his enemy Charles Widmore, and again after he discovers he's been the UnwittingPawn to the Man in Black the whole time]], and as a result VillainDecay as well [[spoiler: leading to his HeelFaceTurn]]. However at the end of the series [[spoiler: he appears to pull a FaceHeelTurn by becoming TheDragon to the Man in Black and betraying Widmore before finally killing him, then seemingly agreeing to kill the remaining survivors for MiB, [=MiB=], and during this time MiB [=MiB=] tells him about the boat he plans on using to escape the Island. However it's revealed that Ben was a FakeDefector who immediately returned to the survivor's side after MiB [=MiB=] went to the heart of the Island without him and he saves Hurley from being crushed by a tree. While stuck under the tree, Ben tells Kate about MIB's boat in order to help them escape, but it's also likely that he knew MIB would be heading there too, and that the survivors, especially Kate, wanted to kill him to avenge the deaths of their friends on the sub. Sure enough, Kate shows up in the nick of time to stop MiB [=MiB=] from killing Jack, which leads to the Man in Black's death. So not only did he outgambit his enemy who was at least partially responsible for his adopted daugther's death, but he also outgambits the SMOKE MONSTER, who had used him as a pawn for years, showing that even after pulling a HeelFaceTurn, he was still a MagnificentBastard.]]
15th Oct '15 5:51:33 AM MadSpy
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* The job of good speculative fiction is to make some kind of statement about the human condition. Darlton's brilliance was to illustrate their statment using not just the show, ''but their fanbase''. What's their statement? That spending your life trying to find out the answers to the big questions is a disappointing and ultimately fruitless use of your time on this Earth: every answer will be disappointing, or will just lead to more questions, and that's assuming there actually ''is'' an answer. The value of a human life is in the connections we make, with family and friends and other human beings. Within the show, this is illustrated through the characters and their eventual fates. Compare Daniel (trying to unlock secrets of the universe) and Locke (determined to unwravel the mysteries of the Island) to Kate (adopting Aaron), Sawyer (devoting himself to keeping the time-travelling Losties safe and getting everyone off the Island) and Jack ([[spoiler:sacrificing himself to save everyone else]]). But the REAL brilliance is that this statement was even more perfectly illustrated by fan reactions to the GrandFinale. The fans who were only concerned with getting answers to the mysteries were disappointed and wound up regretting their time spent watching the show. The fans who were more concerned with the characters and their journey thought the finale was fantastic and moving.

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* The job of good speculative fiction is to make some kind of statement about the human condition. Darlton's brilliance was to illustrate their statment statement using not just the show, ''but their fanbase''. What's their statement? That spending your life trying to find out the answers to the big questions is a disappointing and ultimately fruitless use of your time on this Earth: every answer will be disappointing, or will just lead to more questions, and that's assuming there actually ''is'' an answer. The value of a human life is in the connections we make, with family and friends and other human beings. Within the show, this is illustrated through the characters and their eventual fates. Compare Daniel (trying to unlock secrets of the universe) and Locke (determined to unwravel unravel the mysteries of the Island) to Kate (adopting Aaron), Sawyer (devoting himself to keeping the time-travelling Losties safe and getting everyone off the Island) and Jack ([[spoiler:sacrificing himself to save everyone else]]). But the REAL brilliance is that this statement was even more perfectly illustrated by fan reactions to the GrandFinale. The fans who were only concerned with getting answers to the mysteries were disappointed and wound up regretting their time spent watching the show. The fans who were more concerned with the characters and their journey thought the finale was fantastic and moving.
15th Oct '15 5:44:12 AM MadSpy
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* More firdge brilliance in the DVD epilogue as Hurley and Ben pick up Walt saying he can help his father, then drive off leaving the audience hanging, but this probably explains why Michael and Walt were conspicuously missing from the Flash-sideways timeline and the church at the end.

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* More firdge fridge brilliance in the DVD epilogue as Hurley and Ben pick up Walt saying he can help his father, then drive off leaving the audience hanging, but this probably explains why Michael and Walt were conspicuously missing from the Flash-sideways timeline and the church at the end.
7th Jul '15 7:10:28 PM nombretomado
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Welcome to the Fridge section of ''{{Lost}}''. It can be quite extensive due to the series' [[MindScrew complex nature]] and JigSawPuzzlePlot. Be wary, unmarked spoilers ahead. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.

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Welcome to the Fridge section of ''{{Lost}}''.''Series/{{Lost}}''. It can be quite extensive due to the series' [[MindScrew complex nature]] and JigSawPuzzlePlot. Be wary, unmarked spoilers ahead. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.



* ''{{Lost}}'': The ending of "The End" gives us a pretty bad bit of Fridge Horror: [[spoiler: so we know Michael's spirit was trapped on the island, but there was a chance that maybe it was the power of the Man in Black or the same thing that acted as the source of his power that was keeping Micheal and the other ghosts there. But given that Michael was absent entirely from the flash-sideways universe, which we find out is purgatory, this means nothing that happened on the island in The End changed his fate, or that of the other souls trapped in the jungle. Poor Michael is still trapped on the island, long after his friends have moved on to the afterlife.]]

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* ''{{Lost}}'': ''Series/{{Lost}}'': The ending of "The End" gives us a pretty bad bit of Fridge Horror: [[spoiler: so we know Michael's spirit was trapped on the island, but there was a chance that maybe it was the power of the Man in Black or the same thing that acted as the source of his power that was keeping Micheal and the other ghosts there. But given that Michael was absent entirely from the flash-sideways universe, which we find out is purgatory, this means nothing that happened on the island in The End changed his fate, or that of the other souls trapped in the jungle. Poor Michael is still trapped on the island, long after his friends have moved on to the afterlife.]]
30th Jun '15 8:31:09 AM MeridenCrow
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* At one point, Ben conversed with Jack about how she looks like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.

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* At one point, Ben conversed with mentions to Jack about how she Juliet looks like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.
30th Jun '15 8:30:01 AM MeridenCrow
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* In Juliet's first episode, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] with Jack about how she looks like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.

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* In Juliet's first episode, At one point, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] conversed with Jack about how she looks like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.
30th Jun '15 8:28:58 AM MeridenCrow
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* In Juliet's first episode, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] with Jack about how [[IdenticalStranger she looks just like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah]]. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.

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* In Juliet's first episode, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] with Jack about how [[IdenticalStranger she looks just like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah]].Sarah. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.
28th Jul '14 7:11:59 PM DavySprocket
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* In Juliet's first episode, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] with Jack about how [[IdenticalStranger she looks just like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah]]. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.
* While Man In Black is masquerading as John Locke the whole Season 5, almost all of lines are actually truth, FromACertainPointOfView
* More firdge brilliance in the DVD epilogue as Hurley and Ben pick up Walt saying he can help his father, then drive off leaving the audience hanging, but this probably explains why Michael and Walt were conspicuously missing from the Flash-sideways timeline and the church at the end.

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* * In Juliet's first episode, Ben [[InformedAbility conversed]] with Jack about how [[IdenticalStranger she looks just like Jack's ex-wife, Sarah]]. In the FlashSideways/purgatory Juliet is Jack's ex-wife instead of Sarah.
* While Man In Black is masquerading as John Locke the whole Season 5, almost all of his lines are actually truth, FromACertainPointOfView
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More firdge brilliance in the DVD epilogue as Hurley and Ben pick up Walt saying he can help his father, then drive off leaving the audience hanging, but this probably explains why Michael and Walt were conspicuously missing from the Flash-sideways timeline and the church at the end.
20th Jul '14 8:58:30 AM madhatter42
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* Ben's line "My mother taught me" is not exactly fridge ''horror'', but once you remember his backstory [[spoiler: of how his mother died giving birth to him, leading his father to blame him and berate and abuse him throughout his life, leading to him killing him during the purge]], it suddenly seems all the more bitter.
22nd Oct '13 6:18:05 AM SeptimusHeap
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Welcome to the Fridge section of ''{{Lost}}''. It can be quite extensive due to the series' [[MindScrew complex nature]] and JigSawPuzzlePlot. Be wary, unmarked spoilers ahead. YouHaveBeenWarned.

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Welcome to the Fridge section of ''{{Lost}}''. It can be quite extensive due to the series' [[MindScrew complex nature]] and JigSawPuzzlePlot. Be wary, unmarked spoilers ahead. YouHaveBeenWarned.
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