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24th Jun '18 2:00:03 PM Luigifan
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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to [[spoiler:the mirror]], which certainly put it into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as [[spoiler:a personal looking glass]]. It may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.
** The developer's talk in Miiverse basically confirms this, with additions: It was [[spoiler:Taranza]] who gave it to Sectonia as a gift, back when she was a good guy; the thing just happened to contain [[spoiler:a vengeful Dark Meta Knight]], which corrupted Sectonia and turned her into an evil, vain queen she's now.

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] Mirror]]]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to [[spoiler:the mirror]], which certainly put it into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as [[spoiler:a personal looking glass]]. It may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.
** The developer's talk in Miiverse basically confirms this, with additions: It was [[spoiler:Taranza]] who gave it to Sectonia as a gift, back when she was a good guy; the thing just happened to contain [[spoiler:a vengeful Dark Meta Knight]], which corrupted Sectonia and turned her into an the evil, vain queen she's she is now.
6th Jun '18 8:31:12 AM Notsofriendly
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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to [[spoiler:the mirror]], which certainly put it into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as [[spoiler:a personal looking glass]]. It may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to [[spoiler:the mirror]], which certainly put it into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as [[spoiler:a personal looking glass]]. It may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.]]
22nd May '18 10:53:35 PM 4tell0life4
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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to the mirror, which certainly put the mirror into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as a personal looking glass. The mirror may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.]]
* Throughout most of the ''Kirby'' games, Kirby ends up doing things that ultimately wind up freeing or unleashing the Final Bosses. Usually, I just figured that this is because Kirby is too selfish to realize just what his actions do, but after thinking about it, I realized that in most cases, the character he defeats (usually Dedede) takes a morally gray option to avoid the boss, while Kirby has an extreme case of {{Black and White Morality}}. In addition, when a player reaches that point for the first time, he only knows about as much as Kirby himself does, and since Kirby sees what Dedede does as a bad thing, so does the player. And since the situation changes at times, Kirby's trusting nature and GenreBlindness prevents him from knowing what evil is hidden just out of sight.
** Of course, in the end, Kirby's black-and-white views prevail as the harmful, untrustworthy, or otherwise grey methods to delay the return of the villain fail (with or without Kirby's help), and only the unambiguously good actions of Kirby defeating the monster save the day in the end.

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe'', [[spoiler:you might wonder what the [[VideoGame/KirbyandtheAmazingMirror Dimension Mirror]] is doing in the final boss's room. It occurred to me later that Kirby and Meta Knight had to fly up into the sky to get to the mirror, [[spoiler:the mirror]], which certainly put the mirror it into Sectonia's domain and reach, and because Queen Sectonia is so vain, she has probably been using it as a [[spoiler:a personal looking glass. The mirror glass]]. It may not be why she's so evil, but it could be one explanation for how she became so monstrously vain.]]
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** The developer's talk in Miiverse basically confirms this, with additions: It was [[spoiler:Taranza]] who gave it to Sectonia as a gift, back when she was a good guy;
the ''Kirby'' games, Kirby ends up doing things that ultimately wind up freeing or unleashing the Final Bosses. Usually, I thing just figured that this is because Kirby is too selfish happened to realize just what his actions do, but after thinking about it, I realized that in most cases, the character he defeats (usually Dedede) takes a morally gray option to avoid the boss, while Kirby has an extreme case of {{Black contain [[spoiler:a vengeful Dark Meta Knight]], which corrupted Sectonia and White Morality}}. In addition, when a player reaches that point for the first time, he only knows about as much as Kirby himself does, and since Kirby sees what Dedede does as a bad thing, so does the player. And since the situation changes at times, Kirby's trusting nature and GenreBlindness prevents him from knowing what evil is hidden just out of sight.
** Of course, in the end, Kirby's black-and-white views prevail as the harmful, untrustworthy, or otherwise grey methods to delay the return of the villain fail (with or without Kirby's help), and only the unambiguously good actions of Kirby defeating the monster save the day in the end.
turned her into an evil, vain queen she's now.



* At the end of [[spoiler:Revenge of the King]] in ''Kirby Super Star Ultra'', just before [[spoiler:you fight Masked Dedede]], King Dedede says "Our grudge will be settled at last..." Note that, in every main series ''Kirby'' game to follow (not counting the one he wasn't in), he is Kirby's best friend (on a good day) or brainwashed enemy (on a bad one). When he said their grudge would be settled, he meant it.



* [[spoiler: When you think about it Void Termina being the creator of the Master Crown explains why Magalor's soul form has a giant eye, making it look like a Dark Matter being. Void Termina is heavily implied to be the progenitor of the Dark Matter race and has his own giant eye form, so the Master Crown turning Magalor into a Dark Matter looking being makes sense in hind-sight.]]

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* [[spoiler: When you think about it Void Termina being the creator of the Master Crown explains why Magalor's Magolor's soul form has a giant eye, making it look like a Dark Matter being. Void Termina is heavily implied to be the progenitor of the Dark Matter race and has his own giant eye form, so the Master Crown turning Magalor Magolor into a Dark Matter looking being makes sense in hind-sight.]]






* The ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series is probably the archetypal SugarBowl, a perpetually happy place filled with bright colours and cheerful characters where nothing bad ever happens, the stories merely {{Excuse Plot}}s for [[RuleOfFun purposes of fun]]. Except that no, it isn't. Pop Star is constantly assailed by [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil undefeatable]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s that corrupt and kill and bring the world to the brink of destruction. The closest thing to an authority figure is a bumbling AuthorityInNameOnly that can barely succeed even in the few times he manages to be competent. The OnlySaneMan is a BloodKnight concerned only with combat. And Kirby himself, the protagonist and supposed hero, eats people. ''Hundreds upon hundreds of people''. He is a horrific scale BigEater on par with [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} the Tyranids]], consuming indiscriminately all in his path, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop him.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series is probably the archetypal SugarBowl, a perpetually happy place filled with bright colours and cheerful characters where nothing bad ever happens, the stories merely {{Excuse Plot}}s for [[RuleOfFun purposes of fun]]. Except that no, it isn't. Pop Star is constantly assailed assaulted by [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil undefeatable]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s that corrupt and kill and bring the world to the brink of destruction. The closest thing to an authority figure is a bumbling AuthorityInNameOnly that can barely succeed even in the few times he manages to be competent. The OnlySaneMan is a BloodKnight concerned only with combat. And Kirby himself, the protagonist and supposed hero, eats people. ''Hundreds upon hundreds of people''. He is a horrific scale BigEater on par with [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} the Tyranids]], consuming indiscriminately all in his path, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop him.



* The creation of most beings in Dreamland is through one's heroic heart which is aptly shaped like a star, so what happens when you spit them back out? You are spitting the heart of your enemies or objects.

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* The creation of most beings in Dreamland is through one's heroic heart (as shown in ''Kirby Mass Attack'') which is aptly shaped like a star, so what happens when you spit them back out? You are spitting the heart of your enemies or objects.



* In ''Kirby's Dreamland 2'', Dark Matter comes to Pop Star and makes mischief in Dream Land. Kirby gets a special weapon and defeats it, problem solved? ''Kirby's Dreamland 3'' sees Dark Matter come back and engulf the entire planet of Pop Star. Kirby manages to defeat it with another special weapon, though, and even destroys its core, Zero. Yet in ''Kirby 64'', Dark Matter successfully conquers another planet and would have been in position to take over many more had Kirby not gotten involved by coincidence. Turns out the controller, Zero, had somehow revived, but Kirby finding another weapon to put back down solved everything, right? No, Dark Matter engulfing two planets as well as [[ThatsNoMoon forming another one out of its own mass]] is just a drop in the bucket. At the time of this typing, roughly 80% of the matter in the ''universe'' is estimated to be Dark Matter, and with the exception of [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch Gooey]], the entire bulk of it seems to be hostile or commanded by a hostile intelligence which has come back from the dead once already in the Kirby series. The worst is yet to come, assuming Dark Matter is not already causing misery far beyond Kirby's area of operation. The fact that Dark Nebula from ''Squeak Squad'' was later revealed to be part of Dark Matter shows this plot point has not been forgotten either.

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* In ''Kirby's Dreamland 2'', Dark Matter comes to Pop Star and makes mischief in Dream Land. Kirby gets a special weapon and defeats it, problem solved? ''Kirby's Dreamland 3'' sees Dark Matter come back and engulf the entire planet of Pop Star. Kirby manages to defeat it with another special weapon, though, and even destroys its core, Zero. Yet in ''Kirby 64'', Dark Matter successfully conquers another planet and would have been in position to take over many more had Kirby not gotten involved by coincidence. Turns out the controller, Zero, had somehow revived, but Kirby finding another weapon to put back down solved everything, right? No, Dark Matter engulfing two planets as well as [[ThatsNoMoon forming another one out of its own mass]] is just a drop in the bucket. At the time of this typing, roughly 80% of the matter in the ''universe'' Even if Zero Two is estimated to be taken down and Dark Matter, and with Star is no more, the exception of [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch Gooey]], the entire bulk of it seems to be hostile or commanded by a hostile intelligence which has come back from the dead once already in the Kirby series. The worst is yet to come, assuming Dark Matter is not already causing misery far beyond Kirby's area of operation. The fact that Dark Nebula from ''Squeak Squad'' was later revealed to be part of Dark Matter shows this plot point has not been forgotten either.



** The second is Level 5, Shiver Star. It looks more like a real planet than the other 6 planets and upon further examination, one can see that it has the outline of Earth's continents visible on it's surface. Suggesting that it's a [[EarthThatWas post-apocalyptic Earth]]. The entire planet is [[EndlessWinter frozen over]] and at one point Kirby explores an [[NightmarishFactory underground factory]] filled with monsters [[PeopleJars floating]] in glass tanks.

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** The second is Level 5, Shiver Star. It looks more like a real planet than the other 6 planets and upon further examination, one can see that it has the outline of Earth's continents visible on it's surface. Suggesting surface, suggesting that it's a [[EarthThatWas post-apocalyptic Earth]]. The entire planet is [[EndlessWinter frozen over]] and at one point Kirby explores an [[NightmarishFactory underground factory]] filled with monsters [[PeopleJars floating]] in glass tanks.



* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him. [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''
* In ''VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies'', it's implied in [[AllThereInTheManual pause screen text]] that the final boss, [[spoiler:Void Termina, can potentially undergo metamorphosis into a Kirby. Though it may have been on the fast-track to becoming Dark Matter instead, this still means that Kirby just essentially ''killed a zygotic member of his own species.'']]

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him. [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''
* In ''VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies'', it's implied in [[AllThereInTheManual pause screen text]] that the final boss, [[spoiler:Void Termina, can potentially undergo metamorphosis into a Kirby. Though it may have been on the fast-track to becoming Dark Matter instead, this still means that Kirby just essentially ''killed a zygotic member of his own species.'']]
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13th May '18 9:45:32 AM KiriK
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* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him. [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him. [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''''
* In ''VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies'', it's implied in [[AllThereInTheManual pause screen text]] that the final boss, [[spoiler:Void Termina, can potentially undergo metamorphosis into a Kirby. Though it may have been on the fast-track to becoming Dark Matter instead, this still means that Kirby just essentially ''killed a zygotic member of his own species.'']]
6th Apr '18 8:47:57 PM TheDisgaean
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*** This makes Adeleine's presence on Pop Star especially disturbing. She's one of the only humans in the series (a few more appear in Kirby's Dreamland 3), meaning she may very well be one of the last of her kind.
**** What's worse, most of the human characters from Dreamland 3 are '''children'''. Meaning they've likely been separated from their parents or orphans.
***** Somewhat mitigated by the presence of Samus in 5-2, suggesting that there are more humans out there somewhere.
31st Mar '18 10:44:36 PM Sammettik
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** The first is Level 2, Rock Star, which is nothing more than huddled masses of rock, only kept together by the planet's overall gravity. Looking at its Japanese name, "Horobita Star," or "Perished Star," will give some implications that the [[EarthShatteringKaboom planet was destroyed by something]]. Then Kirby finds an ancient spaceship that was embedded within Rock Star....

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** The first is Level 2, Rock Star, which is nothing more than huddled masses of rock, only kept together by the planet's overall gravity. Looking at its Japanese name, "Horobita Star," or "Perished meaning "Ruined/Perished/Destroyed Star," will give gives some implications that the [[EarthShatteringKaboom planet was destroyed by something]]. Then Kirby finds an ancient spaceship that was embedded within Rock Star....
21st Mar '18 11:16:20 AM KingDice7890
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*[[spoiler: the secret boss of star allies Morpho knight’s design may seem familiar to long time Kirby fans. Well that’s because it’s the beta design for Meta knight! “Reborn Butterfly” indeed!]]
20th Mar '18 12:43:37 PM aubeave
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*[[spoiler: When you think about it Void Termina being the creator of the Master Crown explains why Magalor's soul form has a giant eye, making it look like a Dark Matter being. Void Termina is heavily implied to be the progenitor of the Dark Matter race and has his own giant eye form, so the Master Crown turning Magalor into a Dark Matter looking being makes sense in hind-sight.]]
16th Mar '18 5:15:25 PM Luigifan
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* Throughout most of the Kirby games, Kirby ends up doing things that ultimately wind up freeing or unleashing the Final Bosses. Usually, I just figured that this is because Kirby is too selfish to realize just what his actions do, but after thinking about it, I realized that in most cases, the character he defeats (usually Dedede) takes a morally gray option to avoid the boss, while Kirby has an extreme case of {{Black and White Morality}}. In addition, when a player reaches that point for the first time, he only knows about as much as Kirby himself does, and since Kirby sees what Dedede does as a bad thing, so does the player. And since the situation changes at times, Kirby's trusting nature and GenreBlindness prevents him from knowing what evil is hidden just out of sight.

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* Throughout most of the Kirby ''Kirby'' games, Kirby ends up doing things that ultimately wind up freeing or unleashing the Final Bosses. Usually, I just figured that this is because Kirby is too selfish to realize just what his actions do, but after thinking about it, I realized that in most cases, the character he defeats (usually Dedede) takes a morally gray option to avoid the boss, while Kirby has an extreme case of {{Black and White Morality}}. In addition, when a player reaches that point for the first time, he only knows about as much as Kirby himself does, and since Kirby sees what Dedede does as a bad thing, so does the player. And since the situation changes at times, Kirby's trusting nature and GenreBlindness prevents him from knowing what evil is hidden just out of sight.



* At the end of [[spoiler:Revenge of the King]] in Kirby Super Star Ultra, just before [[spoiler:you fight Masked Dedede]], King Dedede says "Our grudge will be settled at last..." Note that, in every main series Kirby game to follow (not counting the one he wasn't in), he is Kirby's best friend (on a good day) or brainwashed enemy (on a bad one). When he said their grudge would be settled, he meant it.

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* At the end of [[spoiler:Revenge of the King]] in Kirby ''Kirby Super Star Ultra, Ultra'', just before [[spoiler:you fight Masked Dedede]], King Dedede says "Our grudge will be settled at last..." Note that, in every main series Kirby ''Kirby'' game to follow (not counting the one he wasn't in), he is Kirby's best friend (on a good day) or brainwashed enemy (on a bad one). When he said their grudge would be settled, he meant it.



* Has anyone noticed how Kirby's power has been changing a little bit with each game? In the very first game, he didn't have any copy abilities, while he suddenly has a dozen or so in the next one. For the next few games, each ability is only able to do one thing, which is why he has similar ones like Fire/Burning, Ice/Freeze, Spark/Plasma and so on. Yet, as the games progressed, the redundant abilities are merged and then are further expanded. Then there's other abilities that have been changing overtime too; like Backdrop becoming Suplex, both of which are obtained from Bugzzy, then going on into Beetle. And then there's abilities affected by his environment like Water becoming Poison. On top of all that, Kirby seems to be learning how to copy complex abilities like Doctor and ESP. A sign of Kirby's growth, indeed!
* I was wonder why Miracle Matter can only be hurt by its current element then I realized you hurt it with it's own attacks because it's shield that block all your normal attacks in permeable to what ever element it uses to attack you with. When in fire form its shields can be passed by fire so it can hit you with fire, but you send the fire right back it through the shield. The shield still block elements just not the one needed to attack with.

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* Has anyone noticed how Kirby's power has been changing a little bit with each game? In the very first game, he didn't have any copy abilities, while he suddenly has a dozen or so in the next one. For the next few games, each ability is only able to do one thing, which is why he has similar ones like Fire/Burning, Ice/Freeze, Spark/Plasma and so on. Yet, as the games progressed, the redundant abilities are merged and then are further expanded. Then there's other abilities that have been changing overtime over time too; like Backdrop becoming Suplex, both of which are obtained from Bugzzy, then going on into Beetle. And then there's abilities affected by his environment environment, like Water becoming Poison. On top of all that, Kirby seems to be learning how to copy complex abilities like Doctor and ESP. A sign of Kirby's growth, indeed!
* I was wonder wondering why Miracle Matter can only be hurt by its current element element, then I realized you hurt it with it's its own attacks because it's its shield that block blocks all your normal attacks in is permeable to what ever whatever element it uses to attack you with. When in fire form form, its shields can be passed by fire so it can hit you with fire, but you send the fire right back at it through the shield. The shield still block elements blocks elements, just not the one needed to attack with.



* Why is Tac's "return to Kirby" function on the same button as his "discard power" function? Because Tac is, of course, a thief, and the first rule of thieving is that no score is worth dying for--the smart thief knows when to cut his losses and ''run'', so Tac naturally ditches anything that might weigh him down (like, say, Blade Knight's armor, or Sir Kibble's helmet) in his bid to retreat.
* How come that Marx [[PromotedToPlayable comes back as a Dream Friend]] in Kirby Star Allies despite the fact we last saw him [[spoiler: getting his soul split in half in Super Star Ultra's True Arena]]? If you look closely in the 100% completion cutscenes of Super Star Ultra, Return to Dreamland, and Triple Deluxe, you can see Marx hidden amongst the crowd each time, as with Magolor who also had a similar UnexplainedRecovery. It turns out Marx somehow survived his last battle with Kirby and decided to lay low until the Jambastion threat [[EnemyMine gave him no other choice but to team up with Kirby]].

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* Why is Tac's "return to Kirby" function on the same button as his "discard power" function? Because Tac is, of course, a thief, and the first rule of thieving is that no score is worth dying for--the or getting caught for — the smart thief knows when to cut his losses and ''run'', so Tac naturally ditches anything that might weigh him down (like, say, Blade Knight's armor, or Sir Kibble's helmet) in his bid to retreat.
* How come that Marx [[PromotedToPlayable comes back as a Dream Friend]] in Kirby ''Kirby Star Allies Allies'' despite the fact we last saw him [[spoiler: getting [[spoiler:getting his soul split in half in Super ''Super Star Ultra's Ultra''[='=]s True Arena]]? If you look closely in the 100% completion cutscenes of Super ''Super Star Ultra, Return Ultra'', ''Return to Dreamland, Dreamland'', and Triple Deluxe, ''Triple Deluxe'', you can see Marx hidden amongst the crowd each time, as with Magolor Magolor, who also had a similar UnexplainedRecovery. It turns out Marx somehow survived his last battle with Kirby and decided to lay low until the Jambastion threat [[EnemyMine gave him no other choice but to team up with Kirby]].



*** Also keep in mind he doesn't actually kill them, as you can later spit them out in Super Star.

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*** Also keep in mind he doesn't actually kill them, as you can later spit them out in Super Star.''Super Star''.



* In ''Kirby 64'', the TrueFinalBoss, oddly, has a band aid on his head which you have to hit to expose his weak point. [[spoiler:It's the reincarnation of Zero from the previous game, so you'd first think that it's a simple call back... then you remember the whole thing where his iris ripped out of his main body...]]

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* In ''Kirby 64'', the TrueFinalBoss, oddly, has a band aid on his head head, which you have to hit to expose his weak point. [[spoiler:It's the reincarnation of Zero from the previous game, so you'd first think that it's a simple call back... then you remember the whole thing where his iris ripped out of his main body...]]



** And then there's [[spoiler:Void Termina]] from ''Star Allies''... destroyer of worlds, indeed!



* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''

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* In ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and ''Super Star Ultra'', after successfully manipulating you into summoning Galactic Nova for him him. [[spoiler: Marx]] literally leaves you to die alone in freezing space. ''In a kid's game.''
16th Mar '18 3:54:50 AM MetalAiAi
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* How come that Marx [[PromotedToPlayable comes back as a Dream Friend]] in Kirby Star Allies despite the fact we last saw him [[spoiler: getting his soul split in half in Super Star Ultra's True Arena]]? If you look closely in the 100% completion cutscenes of Super Star Ultra, Return to Dreamland, and Triple Deluxe, you can see Marx hidden amongst the crowd each time, as with Magolor who also had a similar UnexplainedRecovery. It turns out Marx somehow survived his last battle with Kirby and decided to lay low until the Jambastion threat [[EnemyMine gave him no other choice but to team up with Kirby]].
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