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24th Apr '16 2:36:29 PM SirAdamus
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* An interesting thing that Naminé says when speaking to Roxas is that, when he mentions Org XIII as being a bad group, her response is "Bad, or good. I don't know." On the surface, this doesn't make sense, they're undeniably a rotten group of people and Naminé has no reason to think otherwise, given they abused her and forced her to brainwash Sora. Then you remember that the only 'good' person she met, Sora, she only knew for a short span of time, and has spent the intervening ''year'' in the company of Ansem the Wise, who isn't shy about sharing his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on Nobodies such as her. The only person in the Organization that Naminé met before Roxas (who she'd already had to brainwash into this summer vacation fantasy by that point) that wasn't intent on using her for their own means or pursuing an unknown agenda was Xion, who was being manipulated just like Naminé was (and whom Naminé had to convince to give up her own existence). Considering all that, of course Naminé doesn't know who is good and who is bad, both sides have offered up manipulative assholes that treated her like garbage and that's really all she knew for the entire year she existed as an independent being.



** Organization XIII could've had their own digitization tech on their end of the portal. Presumably, that hole in the simulation was where Axel and his mooks got in when they were trying to extract Roxas.
* An interesting thing that Naminé says when speaking to Roxas is that, when he mentions Org XIII as being a bad group, her response is "Bad, or good. I don't know." On the surface, this doesn't make sense, they're undeniably a rotten group of people and Naminé has no reason to think otherwise, given they abused her and forced her to brainwash Sora. Then you remember that the only 'good' person she met, Sora, she only knew for a short span of time, and has spent the intervening ''year'' in the company of DiZ, who isn't shy about sharing his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on Nobodies such as her. The only person in the Organization that Naminé met before Roxas (who she'd already had to brainwash into this summer vacation fantasy by that point) that wasn't intent on using her for their own means or pursuing an unknown agenda was Xion, who was being manipulated just like Naminé was (and whom Naminé had to convince to give up her own existence). Considering all that, of course Naminé doesn't know who is good and who is bad, both sides have offered up manipulative assholes that treated her like garbage and that's really all she knew for the entire year she existed as an independent being.

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** Organization XIII could've had their own digitization tech on their end of the portal. Presumably, that hole in the simulation was where Axel and his mooks got in when they were trying to extract Roxas.
* An interesting thing that Naminé says when speaking to Roxas is that, when he mentions Org XIII as being a bad group, her response is "Bad, or good. I don't know." On the surface, this doesn't make sense, they're undeniably a rotten group of people and Naminé has no reason to think otherwise, given they abused her and forced her to brainwash Sora. Then you remember that the only 'good' person she met, Sora, she only knew for a short span of time, and has spent the intervening ''year'' in the company of DiZ, who isn't shy about sharing his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on Nobodies such as her. The only person in the Organization that Naminé met before Roxas (who she'd already had to brainwash into this summer vacation fantasy by that point) that wasn't intent on using her for their own means or pursuing an unknown agenda was Xion, who was being manipulated just like Naminé was (and whom Naminé had to convince to give up her own existence). Considering all that, of course Naminé doesn't know who is good and who is bad, both sides have offered up manipulative assholes that treated her like garbage and that's really all she knew for the entire year she existed as an independent being.
Roxas.
24th Apr '16 2:34:38 PM SirAdamus
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** Organization XIII could've had their own digitization tech on their end of the portal. Presumably, that hole in the simulation was where Axel and his mooks got in when they were trying to extract Roxas.

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** Organization XIII could've had their own digitization tech on their end of the portal. Presumably, that hole in the simulation was where Axel and his mooks got in when they were trying to extract Roxas.Roxas.
* An interesting thing that Naminé says when speaking to Roxas is that, when he mentions Org XIII as being a bad group, her response is "Bad, or good. I don't know." On the surface, this doesn't make sense, they're undeniably a rotten group of people and Naminé has no reason to think otherwise, given they abused her and forced her to brainwash Sora. Then you remember that the only 'good' person she met, Sora, she only knew for a short span of time, and has spent the intervening ''year'' in the company of DiZ, who isn't shy about sharing his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on Nobodies such as her. The only person in the Organization that Naminé met before Roxas (who she'd already had to brainwash into this summer vacation fantasy by that point) that wasn't intent on using her for their own means or pursuing an unknown agenda was Xion, who was being manipulated just like Naminé was (and whom Naminé had to convince to give up her own existence). Considering all that, of course Naminé doesn't know who is good and who is bad, both sides have offered up manipulative assholes that treated her like garbage and that's really all she knew for the entire year she existed as an independent being.
16th Apr '16 10:32:08 PM CaptainMegaDong
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** Not to mention they flat out say that Axel was the Organization's assassin, and probably racked up a hell of a body count during the decade or so he was in it. So since he's starting to be able to feel, the emotional whiplash of it all is probably hitting him like a fucking train. It's amazing that he's functional at all. [[spoiler:Although that interpretation does give more motives to his suicide, while making it even more of a tearjerker]]
16th Apr '16 10:24:10 PM CaptainMegaDong
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30th Mar '16 6:55:08 AM troperHearts
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* When Sora finds Ansem's computer, he shows some serious incompetence with it even reaching the point of smashing the keys (mostly out of frustration) until Leon warns him that he could break it. Ask yourself this: would you really know how to handle a computer properly if you've lived most of your life in tropical islands, where that much technology is not needed at all?
24th Mar '16 9:35:12 PM EndlessSea
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* The explosion of Ansem the Wise's machine returning Riku to normal actually has some precedent in the first game. At the end of the original Kingdom Hearts, the light of the Kingdom Hearts of Worlds destroys (mostly) Xehanort's Heartless, returning Riku to his normal body. This is the exact same thing that happens in II, except this time the Kingdom Hearts involved is the Kingdom Hearts of Men- or rather, its power and light, drained and converted into data by a machine that couldn't possibly hope to contain it.
14th Mar '16 4:35:50 PM ComeAtmeyBro
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* Luxord does have standard time powers. When he "teleports" [[spoiler:Riku, Kairi]], Donald and Goofy out of the room with his cards, they were looking at the surrounding cards. When they got telported back after he was slain, [[YearOutsideHourInside they were still doing the same actions (with the same animations!) as they did before they got booted out.]]

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* Luxord does have standard time powers. When he "teleports" [[spoiler:Riku, Kairi]], Donald Kairi]], and Goofy out of the room with his cards, they were looking at the surrounding cards. When they got telported back after he was slain, [[YearOutsideHourInside they were still doing the same actions (with the same animations!) as they did before they got booted out.]]



*** In Chain of Memories it could be the fact that Naminé manipulating his memories causes such cognitive dissonance in his mind that it's beginning to render him unbalanced. If you take close notice, he isn't cold and uncompassionate at the beginning of [=KHCoM=], just a bit bewildered. As he begins forgetting things and remembering things he shouldn't remember (the fake memories) the cognitive dissonance grows, and the fact that the fake Naminé memories come in bit by bit, instead of just instantly, causes even more conflict in his mind. The cognitive dissonance and contradictions in his mind render him unbalanced, and the true Fridge Horror of it all? It was Marluxia's plan to render him insane and "bind" his heart (as Vexen says right before his 2nd boss fight) and then make him a puppet to fight Xemnas and take over the Organization. If Naminé didn't put him back, then Sora would eventually have ended up either completely insane, a catatonic mess or both. Also note that his behavior in [=KH2=] (while at times cold, like with the "losing Donald to the curse of the treasure" joke) is not at all like in [=KHCoM=]'s last hours. In the fully-voiced cutscenes from the [=PS2=] version of Chain of Memories it might be more easy to notice due to the fact the old game just has sprites and dialog boxes.

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*** In Chain of Memories it could be the fact that Naminé manipulating his memories causes such cognitive dissonance in his mind that it's beginning to render him unbalanced. If you take close notice, he isn't cold and uncompassionate at the beginning of [=KHCoM=], just a bit bewildered. As he begins forgetting things and remembering things he shouldn't remember (the fake memories) the cognitive dissonance grows, and the fact that the fake Naminé memories come in bit by bit, instead of just instantly, causes even more conflict in his mind. The cognitive dissonance and contradictions in his mind render him unbalanced, and the true Fridge Horror of it all? It was Marluxia's plan to render him insane and "bind" his heart (as Vexen says right before his 2nd boss fight) and then make him a puppet to fight Xemnas and take over the Organization. If Naminé didn't put him back, then Sora would eventually have ended up either completely insane, a catatonic mess or both. Also note that his behavior in [=KH2=] (while at times cold, like with the "losing Donald "losing to the curse of the treasure" joke) is not at all like in [=KHCoM=]'s last hours. In the fully-voiced cutscenes from the [=PS2=] version of Chain of Memories it might be more easy to notice due to the fact the old game just has sprites and dialog boxes.



* The restoration percentages bothered me for a while. Namine has been restoring Sora's memories for nigh a year, so why does it seem like she just started? Days reveals the answer: it's Xion's fault. She had been absorbing Sora's memories, forcing them to reset after Roxas had merged with her and been secured. Of course, now that the memories are coherent, they can be repaired in a single week, rather than several months.

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* The restoration percentages bothered me for a while. Namine has been restoring Sora's memories for nigh a year, so why does it seem like she just started? Days reveals the answer: it's Xion's it's 's fault. She had been absorbing Sora's memories, forcing them to reset after Roxas had merged with her and been secured. Of course, now that the memories are coherent, they can be repaired in a single week, rather than several months.



* Demyx's LetsGetDangerous wasn't just because Sora, Donald, and Goofy brought up the whole lack of a heart thing. It's because of the perceived hypocrisy that ''Roxas'' was telling him that.

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* Demyx's LetsGetDangerous wasn't just because Sora, Donald, , and Goofy brought up the whole lack of a heart thing. It's because of the perceived hypocrisy that ''Roxas'' was telling him that.



** On that note, I was puzzled ever since playing ''Kingdom Hearts II'' about why the Organization members kept refering to Sora as Roxas. Then, after playing Days and learning [[spoiler: Xion's true nature and that she merges with Roxas,]] it seems clear that Sora's appearance in [=KH2=] [[spoiler: varies depending on who is looking at him. Thus, the Organization members are calling him, "Roxas," because when they look at him, they see Roxas.]]

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** On that note, I was puzzled ever since playing ''Kingdom Hearts II'' about why the Organization members kept refering to Sora as Roxas. Then, after playing Days and learning [[spoiler: Xion's [[spoiler: 's true nature and that she merges with Roxas,]] it seems clear that Sora's appearance in [=KH2=] [[spoiler: varies depending on who is looking at him. Thus, the Organization members are calling him, "Roxas," because when they look at him, they see Roxas.]]



* When I played Kingdom Hearts II, it always bugged me a little bit how much of an IdiotHero Sora was, just driving forward in the plot without barely even considering what Organization XIII was planning. The main reason for this was because of Roxas - during his seven days, as he tried to figure out what was happening around him, he struck me as smarter than Sora, [[spoiler:which didn't make sense, considering he was his Nobody.]] Then I played 358/2 Days, expecting Roxas to stumble over a big secret of the Organization. [[spoiler:Instead, he stumbles around in the dark, completely unaware of his and Xion's status as [[UnwittingPawn pawns in Xemnas' plans]].]] He doesn't even try to solve the mystery, he's content just to do his work and eat ice cream with his friends. At that point I realized, not only is his thought process ''exactly'' like Sora's, he's a kid that never learned to have the drive and initiative that Sora [[spoiler:and Xion]] have in spades. Bravo, Nomura. - @/ArcVaranus
* Okay, so apparently in the Birth by Sleep Ultimania, Nomura said that Xemnas may have been able to use the Keyblade, and that it's possible that he was intentionally choosing not to use one in Kingdom Hearts II. At first, that made absolutely no sense to me, since if Xemnas could use a Keyblade, then Roxas and Xon wouldn't have been so important to his goal of completing Kingdom Hearts. But then I thought back to all the things Xemnas said about the power of Nothingness ("Nothingness is eternal!", "Embrace Nothing!" and so forth), and it all came to me! Xemnas obviously believes that Nothingness is the superior force in the universe. But according to Xehanort's Report there are three types of Keyblade (X-blade aside); Keyblades of Light, Keyblades of Darkness, and Keyblades of Heart. None of these seem to represent Nothingness. So, Xemnas chose not to use the Keyblade, instead wielding Ethereal Blades, which better exemplify the power of Nothing. There's also a reason why he never used it even for heart collection... he never needed to! Xemnas definitely seems like the kind of person not to get his hands dirty unless he absolutely has to (notice how he's the only character other than Saïx who never accompanies you on a mission in Days?), and for a long time he had other people to complete Kingdom Hearts for him. For Kingdom Hearts I, he had Sora to collect hearts, and between Kingdom Hearts I and II, he had Roxas and Xion to pull heart collection duty. Even when Roxas and Xion left, Xemnas still didn't need to use the Keyblade himself, because six days later Sora woke up and started killing the Heartless again. This, of course, makes Xemnas even more of a BadAss than he was before, because it means that he is (if I'm not mistaken), the only character so far who actually REJECTED the Keyblade!

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* When I played Kingdom Hearts II, it always bugged me a little bit how much of an IdiotHero Sora was, just driving forward in the plot without barely even considering what Organization XIII was planning. The main reason for this was because of Roxas - during his seven days, as he tried to figure out what was happening around him, he struck me as smarter than Sora, [[spoiler:which didn't make sense, considering he was his Nobody.]] Then I played 358/2 Days, expecting Roxas to stumble over a big secret of the Organization. [[spoiler:Instead, he stumbles around in the dark, completely unaware of his and Xion's and 's status as [[UnwittingPawn pawns in Xemnas' plans]].]] He doesn't even try to solve the mystery, he's content just to do his work and eat ice cream with his friends. At that point I realized, not only is his thought process ''exactly'' like Sora's, he's a kid that never learned to have the drive and initiative that Sora [[spoiler:and Xion]] [[spoiler:and ]] have in spades. Bravo, Nomura. - @/ArcVaranus
* Okay, so apparently in the Birth by Sleep Ultimania, Nomura said that Xemnas may have been able to use the Keyblade, and that it's possible that he was intentionally choosing not to use one in Kingdom Hearts II. At first, that made absolutely no sense to me, since if Xemnas could use a Keyblade, then Roxas and Xon wouldn't have been so important to his goal of completing Kingdom Hearts. But then I thought back to all the things Xemnas said about the power of Nothingness ("Nothingness is eternal!", "Embrace Nothing!" and so forth), and it all came to me! Xemnas obviously believes that Nothingness is the superior force in the universe. But according to Xehanort's Report there are three types of Keyblade (X-blade aside); Keyblades of Light, Keyblades of Darkness, and Keyblades of Heart. None of these seem to represent Nothingness. So, Xemnas chose not to use the Keyblade, instead wielding Ethereal Blades, which better exemplify the power of Nothing. There's also a reason why he never used it even for heart collection... he never needed to! Xemnas definitely seems like the kind of person not to get his hands dirty unless he absolutely has to (notice how he's the only character other than Saïx who never accompanies you on a mission in Days?), and for a long time he had other people to complete Kingdom Hearts for him. For Kingdom Hearts I, he had Sora to collect hearts, and between Kingdom Hearts I and II, he had Roxas and Xion and to pull heart collection duty. Even when Roxas and Xion and left, Xemnas still didn't need to use the Keyblade himself, because six days later Sora woke up and started killing the Heartless again. This, of course, makes Xemnas even more of a BadAss than he was before, because it means that he is (if I'm not mistaken), the only character so far who actually REJECTED the Keyblade!



** Either that, or this is further proof that programs can leave computer worlds on their own free will [[spoiler: (that's later confirmed with Quorra)]], since Sora, Donald, Goofy and Mickey use a dark portal to leave a computer; thus, they remain pseudo-programs to this day.

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** Either that, or this is further proof that programs can leave computer worlds on their own free will [[spoiler: (that's later confirmed with Quorra)]], since Sora, Donald, , Goofy and Mickey use a dark portal to leave a computer; thus, they remain pseudo-programs to this day.
2nd Feb '16 11:02:32 PM Karxrida
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** It gets even better. Why didn't Xemnas use any of the weapons of the Organization who died in ChainofMemories? [[spoiler: Because, according to the ending of RE coded and Dream Drop Distance, those members are already back as their original selves.]]

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** It gets even better. Why didn't Xemnas use any of the weapons of the Organization who died in ChainofMemories? VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories? [[spoiler: Because, according to the ending of RE coded and Dream Drop Distance, those members are already back as their original selves.]]
15th Jan '16 9:02:00 PM Kuruni
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* Along with many other people, I cringed at Seifer's [[TotallyRadical terrible use of Net Speak out loud]] during the prologue of ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. Then, once it's revealed that [[spoiler:he's actually a digital copy of Seifer inside a computer-generated Twilight Town]] it becomes a brilliant bit of {{Foreshadowing}}. [[spoiler:He talks like someone on a computer because he IS in a computer.]] - SerenYGogledd
** There's also the fact that [[spoiler:it's a computer programmed by an old man who has spent his entire life doing scientific research and has spent a decade in the Realm of Nothingness, meaning this guy has no idea how young people really act.]]
** In a similar fashion, the GameplayAndStorySegregation involving the jobs you have to do to earn munny. The jobs are the same every time because [[spoiler: it's a computer program so it's just repeating over and over again]].
* At first I wondered why the Dusks were grabbing the falling hearts near the end of Kingdom Hearts II and being just as bad as the the Heartless, when it hit me. Organization XIII was keeping hearts that might have been rightfully the Dusks', and they couldn't get them back until know. This Fridge Brilliance shows why the Organization was evil: they were keeping hearts that belonged to other people for their own selfish purposes. - Redtutel
** In ''Kingdom Hearts II'', this editor was bothered by Stitch appearing out of nowhere to screw with the heroes and participate in the 1000 Heartless fight with no explanation. Then I remembered that Stitch did the exact same thing in all the ads for his film, and it became a good MythologyGag.
*** And then ''Birth By Sleep'' came out and replaced this with another one; Stitch actually came to Sora's aid because of the events of the prequel: [[spoiler:He ''recognizes Sora as Ventus''.]]
** Well, it's either that, or he got tossed into the game because [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Japan loves Stitch similarly to Tingle]], similarly to Chernabog.
** Stitch actually calls out Sora's name when you summon him. It's a bit hard to hear it with Stitch's "frog-stuck-in-throat" voice, though.
*** I think that Sora reminds the alien of Ventus; thus, as soon as Sora was inside the computer, Stitch left a charm behind for him to find as a token of friendship, which became a summon charm thanks to Sora's magic.



* FridgeBrilliance: This troper just realized, that for every Organization boss except the last, you beat them by being better than what they are best at. Demyx you basically out dance (during his water clone move), Xaldin you out lance (if you take the time to use learn), Xigbar you out snipe, Luxord you out gamble, and Saix you out berserk.
** In Final Mix, Roxas out-wields Sora two Keyblades to one, but Sora can take his Keyblades to out-wield him three to none.



* [[ShadicTheHedgehog This troper]] realized that Axel's exclamation of "Two?!" to Roxas's pulling out two Keyblades wasn't because he had only fought him with one before. It's because he ''only had one the whole time Axel knew him!'' Throughout all of [=KHDays=], Roxas only used one Keyblade, until died. The cutscene afterwards, he pulls out two Kingdom Keys, his original one and Xion's, before transforming both into Oblivion and Oathkeeper. Roxas fought Riku and won, then lost, and was put into Digital Twilight Town, where [=KH2=] starts.
** Then [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]] implies that that wasn't Xion's keyblade, but actually [[spoiler: Ventus'. As he was harbouring his heart, the experience of losing someone dear to him made Ventus' heart respond due to a similar experience of losing his friends Aqua and Terra (They're not dead but whatever), awakening his keyblade. The keyblade cannot be Xion's as it is a fake made by Sora's memories of using the Keyblade]]
* I always thought that Axel's whole obsession with Roxas was a bit overly laden with the HoYay; I mean, he goes crazy because he doesn't remember him. It seemed a bit crazy for a so called friendship, but then I played ''358/2 Days'' and it hit me. Axel's obsessed with Roxas, not just because he's his friend, but because Axel's feelings for Roxas aren't just from one friendship, [[spoiler:it's because he was actually good friends with Xion also, but when she disappeared, one of the two friends in the whole world disappeared from their memories, but not from existence. The events still happen, but neither of them remember them anymore, so instead of Roxas being one of his friends who left, Axel remembers only Roxas for all those good times. Twice the memories and feelings in one friendship, just to have him walk away, must've unhinged him. Not to mention that both made him feel like he had a heart, something he hadn't felt and couldn't possibly comprehend.]]
** I always thought it was because of the horrible terms he and Roxas parted ways on. Roxas left thinking that Axel had betrayed him and kept secrets from him and used him just like everyone else (which, in a sense, he did), and no matter how much he tried to ignore it, Axel couldn't stand that. For someone who hadn't felt a shred of emotion in over ten years, the guilt probably drove him crazy. [[spoiler:In that sense, maybe his HeroicSacrifice wasn't so heroic after all, but we'll see. I'm betting on some serious redemption for this guy; he had to have been included in the BBS ending for a reason.]]
*** By DDD though, the troper's first post basically fits. [[spoiler: One example was the promise Axel made to Xion to "always bring them back." Axel/Lea in DDD thought that he made that promise to Roxas instead. That's why before he woke up, he dreamt Roxas repeating that promise even though the real Roxas didn't even know about that promise.]]
** Axel's relationship with Sora/Roxas takes on another dimension in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. In Radiant Garden, Lea explained he wanted to live in as many people's memories as he could and unilaterally proclaimed himself and Ventus friends. [[spoiler:The Secret Ending, where Namine, Axel and Xion are shown reinforces Namine's assertion in [=KH2=] that their hearts will remember even if they don't recognize each other -- even if they cease to exist (like Xion). When Ventus's heart returned to Sora, his connection with Lea carried over as well.]] Thus, when Axel met Roxas [[spoiler:looking like Ventus did 10 years ago, and carrying Ventus' connection to Axel as he was before becoming a Nobody]], the memory of his heart began to return. --LKM
*** Holy sh--! Gives an ''entirely'' new meaning to
--->"Let's meet again, in the next life."
--->"Yeah. I'll be waiting."
* So this troper has noticed, all the complaints about Riku leaping off the Altar Of Naught (I could be wrong about the name -You're not. nightelf37-) at the end of this game and boarding a flying motorcycle. But I've realized something. In KH1 "Ansem" (who had been using Riku's body, albeit remolding it) had connected himself and his guardian to the World of Chaos. Before I go on, it was a theory for quite some time that The World That Never Was was End of the World's nobody. Now people tend to think that it was simply an artificial world. Despite this, it's possible that Riku's "flying motorcycle" was the nobody of World of Chaos! He could sense it coming for him and Sora due to his connection to Xehanort's Heartless.
** [[VoodooShark That's a pretty small nobody for such a huge heartless.]] More likely, the motorcycle is just that; a motorcycle. But it also might've been how Riku got into the Castle that Never Was in the first place. Remember, Sora had to use a light bridge to get in, and by then, Riku was already in the castle helping Kairi deal with Saix. Riku knew where it was because he was the one who parked it there.
15th Jan '16 3:45:40 AM Alexia
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*** To add a bit to the Saïx example above, and the fact that Xehanort also marked Sora (the X on his clothes, and the "As your flesh bears the sigil" quote implies it might actually be on his body, but that is a bit of Fridge Logic though) it could be that Xehanort marks Vessels he doesn't quite trust too well. It might be slightly like [[Supernatural]]'s devil trap sigils; that the X on Saïx's face "locks" him to Xehanort and basically prevents him from betraying him if he wanted, or enables Xehanort to track him down like with Sora in DDD, or all the "ideal candidates" are marked like Saïx and Sora in some way to lead Young Master Xehanort to them when picking them up. It's far-fetched, but the thought slightly freaks me out.

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*** To add a bit to the Saïx example above, and the fact that Xehanort also marked Sora (the X on his clothes, and the "As your flesh bears the sigil" quote implies it might actually be on his body, but that is a bit of Fridge Logic though) it could be that Xehanort marks Vessels he doesn't quite trust too well. It might be slightly like [[Supernatural]]'s Supernatural's devil trap sigils; that the X on Saïx's face "locks" him to Xehanort and basically prevents him from betraying him if he wanted, or enables Xehanort to track him down like with Sora in DDD, or all the "ideal candidates" are marked like Saïx and Sora in some way to lead Young Master Xehanort to them when picking them up. It's far-fetched, but the thought slightly freaks me out.
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