History Fridge / JakAndDaxter

12th Jun '17 12:42:18 PM MysteriousZorua1994
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* In Jak 2, you never get to see any children in Haven city, that is, until you escort the kid to the Power Station. In the middle of the mission, you hear a radio message stating that the baron wants every kid to be arrested... You never know what happened to them because[[spoiler: THE BARON KILLED THEM ALL.]]
* The Abandoned Research rig in The Lost Frontier. The level is very dark and has signs of what looks like a struggle before being abandoned, and is populated with Mutants and failed test subjects. And then there's the flashback that Jak gets halfway through the level, when [[spoiler: he finds a chair similar to the one in Jak 2]]. The laser lab, which comes up next, is the same idea, but with creepy elevator music at the end. The Music doesn't help as well.
* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see much of his twenties.]]

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* In Jak 2, II, you never get to see any children in Haven city, City, that is, until you escort the kid to the Power Station. In the middle of the mission, you hear a radio message stating that the baron wants every kid to be arrested... You never know what happened to them because[[spoiler: THE BARON KILLED THEM ALL.]]
** Really? [[spoiler:Praxis would probably imprison children, then release them back to their families (or have them put into military camps to be raised as soldiers) once it is confirmed they are not the prince he is looking for. He may be an iron-fisted dictator who committed regicide to come into power, but even he swoop to the lows of Herod the Great.
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* The Abandoned Research rig in The Lost Frontier. The level is very dark and has signs of what looks like a struggle before being abandoned, and is populated with Mutants and failed test subjects. And then there's the flashback that Jak gets halfway through the level, when [[spoiler: he finds a chair similar to the one in Jak 2]].II]]. The laser lab, which comes up next, is the same idea, but with creepy elevator music at the end. The Music doesn't help as well.
* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see much of his twenties.]]]]
** Actually, [[spoiler:the end of the second game states that Jak has learned to control the Dark Eco within him, and is no longer at risk of him dying or being driven insane from it (indicating he's immune to Dark Eco, similar to [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Riku]]). He gets Light Eco in the third game, and Jak states that the Dark Eco is now "out of reach", and he feels a lot better]]. But in the end, I can see that things will be bright after all: [[spoiler:Yes, Jak loses his father and the throne, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he still got himself a happy ending]]; the world is saved, Haven will soon be rebuilt, he and Keira eventually become official, and the worst that can happen now are attacks from freelance criminals such as Rayn. The theme of the trilogy is "hope", after all]].
28th May '17 2:28:47 PM MikaHaeli8
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* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]
** He lives to be 19 in TPL. So he's fine.

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* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see much of his twenties.]]
** He lives to be 19 in TPL. So he's fine.
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27th Jan '17 7:41:55 PM Tuaam
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** He lives to be 19 in his

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** He lives to be 19 in hisTPL. So he's fine.
27th Jan '17 7:41:30 PM Tuaam
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* Haven City is off to a bad start by the start of the Baron's regime. The City is ruled by a dictator, there's riots and an ongoing civil war between Underground and KG soldiers, most of the city seems to live in poverty, constant metal head attacks, and the local police double as the Military. By the end of Jak 2, the [[Spoiler: Metal Heads invade the city and the remaining Underground and KG are forced to fight them off,]] as the streets are deserted and everybody is locked in their homes. By the start of Jak 3,[[spoiler: Veger and his men]] blow up the Palace and kill 3/4th's of the remaining population, as the rest live as refugees in the port and fear constant attack from Metal Heads and Killer Robots. Jak is banished to the wasteland, and Haven is essentially a bunch of ruins, with the temporary Military fighting for the last surviving sections of the city. By the end of Jak X, It's assumed that Haven is repaired and has expanded, but anything can happen...

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* Haven City is off to a bad start by the start of the Baron's regime. The City is ruled by a dictator, there's riots and an ongoing civil war between Underground and KG soldiers, most of the city seems to live in poverty, constant metal head attacks, and the local police double as the Military. By the end of Jak 2, the [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Metal Heads invade the city and the remaining Underground and KG are forced to fight them off,]] as the streets are deserted and everybody is locked in their homes. By the start of Jak 3,[[spoiler: Veger and his men]] blow up the Palace and kill 3/4th's of the remaining population, as the rest live as refugees in the port and fear constant attack from Metal Heads and Killer Robots. Jak is banished to the wasteland, and Haven is essentially a bunch of ruins, with the temporary Military fighting for the last surviving sections of the city. By the end of Jak X, It's assumed that Haven is repaired and has expanded, but anything can happen...
27th Jan '17 7:41:03 PM Tuaam
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* Haven City is off to a bad start by the start of the Baron's regime. The City is ruled by a dictator, there's riots and an ongoing civil war between Underground and KG soldiers, most of the city seems to live in poverty, constant metal head attacks, and the local police double as the Military. By the end of Jak 2, the [Spoiler: Metal Heads invade the city and the remaining Underground and KG are forced to fight them off,]] as the streets are deserted and everybody is locked in their homes. By the start of Jak 3,[[spoiler: Veger and his men]] blow up the Palace and kill 3/4th's of the remaining population, as the rest live as refugees in the port and fear constant attack from Metal Heads and Killer Robots. Jak is banished to the wasteland, and Haven is essentially a bunch of ruins, with the temporary Military fighting for the last surviving sections of the city. By the end of Jak X, It's assumed that Haven is repaired and has expanded, but anything can happen...

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* Haven City is off to a bad start by the start of the Baron's regime. The City is ruled by a dictator, there's riots and an ongoing civil war between Underground and KG soldiers, most of the city seems to live in poverty, constant metal head attacks, and the local police double as the Military. By the end of Jak 2, the [Spoiler: [[Spoiler: Metal Heads invade the city and the remaining Underground and KG are forced to fight them off,]] as the streets are deserted and everybody is locked in their homes. By the start of Jak 3,[[spoiler: Veger and his men]] blow up the Palace and kill 3/4th's of the remaining population, as the rest live as refugees in the port and fear constant attack from Metal Heads and Killer Robots. Jak is banished to the wasteland, and Haven is essentially a bunch of ruins, with the temporary Military fighting for the last surviving sections of the city. By the end of Jak X, It's assumed that Haven is repaired and has expanded, but anything can happen...
27th Jan '17 7:39:34 PM Tuaam
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* In Jak 2, you never get to see any children in Haven city, that is, until you escort the kid to the Power Station. In the middle of the mission, you hear a radio message stating that the baron wants every kid to be arrested... But you never know what happened to them, because[[spoiler: THE BARON KILLED THEM ALL.]]
* The Abandoned Research rig in The Lost Frontier. You can find Skeletons of both humans and animals, and the Computer displays found in the Control rooms have a diagram of some ape-like mutant. It also has creepy ambiance, with [[spoiler:One of Jak's flashbacks from when he was tortured and experimented on. It also has some cell lights on, stating that PEOPLE ARE STILL LOCKED IN THERE.]]
* Erol. Let's just say he has a uncontrollable fetish for Jak ...and [[spoiler: he wants to destroy the planet in Jak 3]]
--> '''Erol''': I want more than just to win, eco-freak! I want you!
* What happens to the prisoners in the Fortress?
* The Piercer Bomb looks like the Atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima during WW2.
* The Fate of [[spoiler: The Aeropans]].
* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]

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*Haven City is off to a bad start by the start of the Baron's regime. The City is ruled by a dictator, there's riots and an ongoing civil war between Underground and KG soldiers, most of the city seems to live in poverty, constant metal head attacks, and the local police double as the Military. By the end of Jak 2, the [Spoiler: Metal Heads invade the city and the remaining Underground and KG are forced to fight them off,]] as the streets are deserted and everybody is locked in their homes. By the start of Jak 3,[[spoiler: Veger and his men]] blow up the Palace and kill 3/4th's of the remaining population, as the rest live as refugees in the port and fear constant attack from Metal Heads and Killer Robots. Jak is banished to the wasteland, and Haven is essentially a bunch of ruins, with the temporary Military fighting for the last surviving sections of the city. By the end of Jak X, It's assumed that Haven is repaired and has expanded, but anything can happen...
* In Jak 2, you never get to see any children in Haven city, that is, until you escort the kid to the Power Station. In the middle of the mission, you hear a radio message stating that the baron wants every kid to be arrested... But you You never know what happened to them, them because[[spoiler: THE BARON KILLED THEM ALL.]]
* The Abandoned Research rig in The Lost Frontier. You can find Skeletons of both humans The level is very dark and animals, has signs of what looks like a struggle before being abandoned, and the Computer displays found in the Control rooms have a diagram of some ape-like mutant. It also has creepy ambiance, is populated with [[spoiler:One of Jak's flashbacks from Mutants and failed test subjects. And then there's the flashback that Jak gets halfway through the level, when he was tortured and experimented on. It also has some cell lights on, stating that PEOPLE ARE STILL LOCKED IN THERE.]]
* Erol. Let's just say he has a uncontrollable fetish for Jak ...and
[[spoiler: he wants finds a chair similar to destroy the planet one in Jak 3]]
--> '''Erol''': I want more than just to win, eco-freak! I want you!
* What happens to
2]]. The laser lab, which comes up next, is the prisoners in same idea, but with creepy elevator music at the Fortress?
*
end. The Piercer Bomb looks like the Atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima during WW2.
* The Fate of [[spoiler: The Aeropans]].
Music doesn't help as well.
* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (one of the people being Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]]]
**He lives to be 19 in his
9th Oct '16 11:23:46 AM TallTroper
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*In Daxter's solo game, one of the Ottsel's misadventures results in him unintentionally blowing up a very large supply of Dark Eco. Lo and behold, chronologically later in Jak 2, we find out that Baron Praxis is under pressure from the Metal Head Leader over a missed shipment. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Huh]]. For an additional horror, given the short time that this takes place between this and Jak's rescue, its possinble that this may have caused the Baron to increase Jak's torture in hopes of having his weapon...
17th Mar '16 5:35:31 PM res20stupid
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* More of a Fridge Funny moment regarding [[spoiler: the true nature of ottsels]]. After Jak and Daxter save Seem from Erol and the Dark Makers he hints that he's aware of the fact that [[spoiler: Daxter, and other ottsels, are in fact Precursors]]. Seeing as he was allied with [[KnightTemplar Veger]] who was ''not'' aware of this either suggests a few things - Seem only found out before he was rescued, he always knew and refused to reveal this information... or he actually told Veger [[SarcasticConfession who didn't believe him]].
12th Feb '16 7:37:49 AM MikaHaeli8
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* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (oh, and being ordered to do so by Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]

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* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (oh, and (one of the people being ordered to do so by Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]
12th Feb '16 7:36:54 AM MikaHaeli8
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* More Fridge Tragedy if anything, but [[spoiler: Jak himself.]] (big spoilers for the whole trilogy) [[spoiler: He's never really had much of a choice in how he lives his life - he's basically a tool for other people, being ordered to do things, some of which involves risking his life (oh, and being ordered to do so by Keira, his main love interest). ''Jak II'' reveals that a) he is royalty and b) he was only sent to the past in order to prepare to defeat Kor, and it also sees him being tortured for two years with Dark Eco which creates this monster inside of him. Erol - the very man who tortured him - seems to also have something going on with Keira, who refuses to listen to anything Jak says. ''Jak 3'' is even WORSE, starting off with him being kicked out of the city due to circumstances that were always beyond his control, Erol comes back to attempt to destroy him, finding out that his best friend is a god and having to accept that these three other ottsels are the all-powerful Precursors, thereby kicking his religion entirely in the face. Jak is also reunited with his father, Damas, who dies without ever knowing that his son is not only alive, but ''holding him in his arms as he dies'', and Jak also figures out that Damas is his father mere seconds after he dies. All his friends are spies or withholding information from him, which probably does nothing for his trust issues. Also, the Dark Eco in his veins is basically a ticking time bomb - it could kill him any second, or at the very least, drive him insane, with potentially disastrous consequences. On the bright side, he FINALLY gets a kiss! ...only it's with the daughter of the man who not only gave the order to torture Jak, but essentially demolished his family in the first place.]] This tropette would be surprised if [[spoiler: Jak lived to see his twenties.]]
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