History Fridge / ItsAWonderfulLife

10th Jun '17 2:50:01 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** In a deleted scene, he was revealed to have died in a house fire in one of Potter's tenements.

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** In a deleted scene, DeletedScene, he was revealed to have died in a house fire in one of Potter's tenements.



* With the ideas of a Multiverse, this means that the world of Pottersville still exists, presuembly to get worse and worse with the march of time.

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* With the ideas of a Multiverse, this means that the world of Pottersville still exists, presuembly presumably to get worse and worse with the march of time.
20th May '17 4:18:06 PM H8FearADRLuv
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** Alternatively, while he couldn't travel the world, he already built a great deal of things throughout his adult life, both literally and metaphorically. His efforts to keep Bedford Falls and the Bank out of Potter's hands has built a small empire where the people are still as self-made as they were the day George's father died. Not to mention he built those homes for people so they wouldn't have to pay rent in Potter's slums anymore. He's the one who gave advice to an old (successful) acquaintance to start his business in Bedford Falls so the people would have more jobs.
26th Dec '16 1:16:31 PM SteveMB
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*** Conversely, in the alternate world, she may have worn glasses whether she needed them or not because [[SmartPeopleWearGlasses having a "smart person" job]] was the keystone of what self-respect she could cling to.
24th Dec '16 8:41:00 PM Luigifan
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* Potter may seem like a KarmaHoudini, but bear in mind if angels exist so do [[FireAndBrimstoneHell Devils]].

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* Potter may seem like a KarmaHoudini, but bear in mind that if angels exist exist, so do [[FireAndBrimstoneHell Devils]].
24th Dec '16 8:40:35 PM Luigifan
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* Potter may seem like a KarmaHoudini, but bear in mind if angels exist so do [[FireAndBrimStoneHell Devils]].

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* Potter may seem like a KarmaHoudini, but bear in mind if angels exist so do [[FireAndBrimStoneHell [[FireAndBrimstoneHell Devils]].



* This troper realised that Mary doesn't tell George her actual wish and it comes true. George does tell Mary his wish and it doesn't come true.

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* This troper realised realized that Mary doesn't tell George her actual wish and it comes true. George does tell Mary his wish and it doesn't come true.



** ...wow. I mean wow. You seem to have missed that the "bustling nightlife strip" was a street full of nightclubs and...shall we say houses of ill repute? That this is all controlled with an iron fist by the "supposed" villain who has a stranglehold over the entire town as he owns EVERYTHING in it? How about that the police are basically turned into a gang under the control of the "supposed" villain? [[SarcasmMode Wow, a boost to the economy sounds worth it.]]

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** ...wow. I mean wow. You seem to have missed that the "bustling nightlife strip" was a street full of nightclubs and... shall we say say, houses of ill repute? That this is all controlled with an iron fist by the "supposed" villain who has a stranglehold over the entire town as he owns EVERYTHING ''everything'' in it? How about that the police are basically turned into a gang under the control of the "supposed" villain? [[SarcasmMode Wow, a boost to the economy sounds worth it.]]



** Part of the point of this movie is that money isn't everything, you know. Some things are more important--like integrity and charity (old-fashioned sense).
** Think of Pottersville like this: with George never born, Potter was able to buy out all good institutions like the Building and Loan and now officially owns the town enough to rename and reshape it in his own image. The result is [[CrapsackWorld a dark town filled with cheap, trashy, tasteless establishments that people squander all their money on and perpetuate a lifestyle that lands many in the poor houses of Potter's slum neighborhoods, all while Potter gets to have all the wealth and power at the expense of others who are made miserable by the town's corruption and turn to the clubs and entertainment venues to drown out their sorrows, continuing the cycle of misery.]] Which is far from a healthy economy and removes all decency from the town. That ''these'' are the kind of institutions Potter deems "necessary" for HIS town proves that he really is sick in the mind and soul.
** George provides cheap (but QUALITY) housing by sacrificing his own profits; Potter provides overpriced slums, but he was poor families' only option until George and the Building and Loan created a better alternative. In the Potterville Universe Potter's monopoly was complete - he owned all the businesses and the housing, so the lion's share of the wealth from the so-called "bustling" gin joints and strip clubs would have gone to Potter while the towns' actual citizens would continue to be bled dry and live in horrible conditions.

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** Part of the point of this movie is that money isn't everything, you know. Some things are more important--like important -- like integrity and charity (old-fashioned sense).
** Think of Pottersville like this: with George never born, Potter was able to buy out all good institutions like the Building and Loan and now officially owns the town enough to rename and reshape it in his own image. The result is [[CrapsackWorld a dark town filled with cheap, trashy, tasteless establishments that people squander all their money on and perpetuate a lifestyle that lands many in the poor houses of Potter's slum neighborhoods, all while Potter gets to have all the wealth and power at the expense of others who are made miserable by the town's corruption and turn to the clubs and entertainment venues to drown out their sorrows, continuing the cycle of misery.]] Which is far from a healthy economy and removes all decency from the town. That ''these'' are the kind of institutions Potter deems "necessary" for HIS ''his'' town proves that he really is sick in the mind and soul.
** George provides cheap (but QUALITY) ''quality'') housing by sacrificing his own profits; Potter provides overpriced slums, but he was poor families' only option until George and the Building and Loan created a better alternative. In the Potterville Universe Universe, Potter's monopoly was complete - -- he owned all the businesses and the housing, so the lion's share of the wealth from the so-called "bustling" gin joints and strip clubs would have gone to Potter while the towns' actual citizens would continue to be bled dry and live in horrible conditions.



** They're not squatters. They "work and pay and live and die" in the town. They're working-class or working-poor (they have jobs or are self-employed but their income falls below the poverty level), big difference.

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** They're not squatters. They "work and pay and live and die" in the town. They're working-class or working-poor (they have jobs or are self-employed self-employed, but their income falls below the poverty level), big difference.



* The alternate Bedford Falls is shown to be a place that is ''much'' less safe and friendly than it is in George's reality. In George's world, Mary is an outgoing, happy woman. Even when George hid her bathrobe, her first reaction was outrage, not fear. Now consider how her Pottersville self acted - she walked hunched and clearly trying to avoid attention, and nearly had a nervous breakdown when George tried to talk to her. Sure a strange man running over and insisting you were his wife is going to freak most people out, but her overall demeanor is far more timid and fearful in general. What could have happened in this alternate timeline to make her like that?

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* The alternate Bedford Falls is shown to be a place that is ''much'' less safe and friendly than it is in George's reality. In George's world, Mary is an outgoing, happy woman. Even when George hid her bathrobe, her first reaction was outrage, not fear. Now consider how her Pottersville self acted - -- she walked hunched and clearly trying to avoid attention, and nearly had a nervous breakdown when George tried to talk to her. Sure Sure, a strange man running over and insisting you were his wife is going to freak most people out, but her overall demeanor is far more timid and fearful in general. What could have happened in this alternate timeline to make her like that?



* Potter's line "No securities, no stocks, no bonds, nothin' but a miserable little $500 equity in a life insurance policy...You're worth more dead than alive!" becomes extra chilling when you realize that Potter probably ''wanted George to kill himself'' to make sure he was out of the way. About the only thing he didn't do was leave a loaded pistol in plain sight on his desk.

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* Potter's line "No securities, no stocks, no bonds, nothin' but a miserable little $500 equity in a life insurance policy...You're worth more dead than alive!" becomes extra chilling when you realize that Potter probably ''wanted '''''wanted''' George to kill himself'' to make sure he was out of the way. About the only thing he didn't do was leave a loaded pistol in plain sight on his desk.



** I always saw the film portraying Potter as taking the draft board seriously, one of the few things he at least partially put aside his evil for, and his declaring George 4-F to be a TakeThat. As a patriotic, selfless young man (in a Capra film), George would have *wanted* to serve his country. Potter declared him 4-F to demoralize him.

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** I always saw the film portraying Potter as taking the draft board seriously, one of the few things he at least partially put aside his evil evil, twisted, selfish ways for, and his declaring George 4-F to be a TakeThat. As a patriotic, selfless young man (in a Capra film), George would have *wanted* ''wanted'' to serve his country. Potter declared him 4-F to demoralize him.






** There's a difference between being forgetful and being irresponsible. Also, YOU come up with a way to tell an old man that he's not fit for the duties he's been performing faithfully and flawlessly all his life without a really solid reason.

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** There's a difference between being forgetful and being irresponsible. Also, YOU ''you'' come up with a way to tell an old man that he's not fit for the duties he's been performing faithfully and flawlessly all his life without a really solid reason.



*** The bar for commitment to a mental institution was a lot lower in the 1940's. For all we know (and it it's perfectly within character) Potter may have ''arranged'' for Uncle Billy to be committed so he could take over the Building and Loan. Having sometimes perfectly fine people committed was a common underhanded way for someone to get his hands on a business or estate. As it was, this was an era when homosexuals and people with learning disabilities could be confined to a mental institution in most jurisdictions. All it takes is one crooked judge...and [[ScienceMarchesOn psychiatry being what it was back then]] it would be next to impossible to convince the doctors to let you back out. Hell, it's ''still'' like that in some places (mental institutions can ''make'' you crazy). Even if they did let him out, the damage would be already done.

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*** The bar for commitment to a mental institution was a lot lower in the 1940's. For all we know (and it it's perfectly within character) character), Potter may have ''arranged'' for Uncle Billy to be committed so he could take over the Building and Loan. Having sometimes perfectly fine people committed was a common underhanded way for someone to get his hands on a business or estate. As it was, this was an era when homosexuals and people with learning disabilities could be confined to a mental institution in most jurisdictions. All it takes is one crooked judge... and [[ScienceMarchesOn psychiatry being what it was back then]] then]], it would be next to impossible to convince the doctors to let you back out. Hell, it's ''still'' like that in some places (mental institutions ([[BedlamHouse mental institutions]] can ''make'' you crazy). Even if they did let him out, the damage would be already be done.



** It's because George was the only man she ever loved. In this universe because George never existed and she is living in a CrapsackWorld , the men in that world would have been just as bad for her. A person of George's quality wouldn't exist. So she rather take her chances of being an old maid than to be a depressed wife.

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** It's because George was the only man she ever loved. In this universe universe, because George never existed and she is living in a CrapsackWorld , CrapsackWorld, the men in that world would have been just as bad for her. A person of George's quality wouldn't exist. So she rather take her chances of being an old maid than to be a depressed wife.



** I may be wrong but it's possible that either the substance was only poisonous in combination with other things in the capsules, something that was supposed to be topical but was toxic if ingested, something that particular patient would have a bad reaction to, or a usually harmless in small amounts drug being administered at an absurdly high overdose because Gower mixed up the drugs in his grief. (All we know is George says it's poison and Gower is horrified when he tastes it - that doesn't mean it's ALWAYS poison, only in the context of capsules meant for a sick kid. I don't believe we got a good luck at the bottle he mixed it, but it has been a while since I've seen it.) It's also possible Gower was so drunk he grabbed rat or roach poison - which would have a legitimate reason for being in an establishment that also sold food items but obviously hopefully not in close proximity to the medicine/food.

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** I may be wrong wrong, but it's possible that either the substance was only poisonous in combination with other things in the capsules, something that was supposed to be topical but was toxic if ingested, something that particular patient would have a bad reaction to, or a usually harmless in small amounts drug being administered at an absurdly high overdose because Gower mixed up the drugs in his grief. (All we know is George says it's poison and Gower is horrified when he tastes it - -- that doesn't mean it's ALWAYS ''always'' poison, only in the context of capsules meant for a sick kid. I don't believe we got a good luck look at the bottle he mixed it, it in, but it has been a while since I've seen it.) It's also possible Gower was so drunk he grabbed rat or roach poison - -- which would have a legitimate reason for being in an establishment that also sold food items items, but obviously hopefully not in close proximity to the medicine/food.



** Someone once worked out that the S stood for Seraphim and while that's not a seraph's job it was Christmas and heaven was probably an absolute zoo.

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** Someone once worked out that the S stood for Seraphim Seraphim, and while that's not a seraph's job job, it was Christmas and heaven was probably an absolute zoo.
24th Dec '16 6:10:17 PM CaptEquinox
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** There's a difference between being forgetful and being irresponsible. Also, YOU come up with a way to tell an old man that he's not fit for the duties he's been performing all his life without a really solid reason.

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** There's a difference between being forgetful and being irresponsible. Also, YOU come up with a way to tell an old man that he's not fit for the duties he's been performing faithfully and flawlessly all his life without a really solid reason.



*** I always imagined that Uncle Billy simply couldn't handle that his business went belly up, had a nervous breakdown, and was hauled off to the funny farm in a straight jacket.
*** The bar for commitment to a mental institution was a lot lower in the 1940's. For all we know (and it it's perfectly within character) Potter may have ''arranged'' for Uncle Billy to be committed so he could take over the Building and Loan. Having sometimes perfectly fine people committed was a common underhanded way for someone to get his hands on a business or estate. As it was, this was an era when homosexuals and people with learning disabilities could be confined to a mental institution in most jurisdictions. All it takes is one crooked judge...and [[ScienceMarchesOn psychiatry being what it was back then]] it would be next to impossible to convince the doctors to let you back out. Hell, it's ''still'' like that in some places. Even if they did, the damage is already done.

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*** I always imagined that Uncle Billy simply couldn't handle that his business went belly up, had a nervous breakdown, and was hauled off to the funny farm in a straight jacket.
straitjacket.
*** Also, Billy was seen to drink now and then. He got sloshed at Harry's party and had a nip from a flask in the "run on the bank" sequence -- seeming to use it as self-medication for anxiety. My guess is that he wasn't an alcoholic, but might have become one, or at least hit the bottle more heavily after the B&L failed, a routine reason to have someone committed back then.
*** The bar for commitment to a mental institution was a lot lower in the 1940's. For all we know (and it it's perfectly within character) Potter may have ''arranged'' for Uncle Billy to be committed so he could take over the Building and Loan. Having sometimes perfectly fine people committed was a common underhanded way for someone to get his hands on a business or estate. As it was, this was an era when homosexuals and people with learning disabilities could be confined to a mental institution in most jurisdictions. All it takes is one crooked judge...and [[ScienceMarchesOn psychiatry being what it was back then]] it would be next to impossible to convince the doctors to let you back out. Hell, it's ''still'' like that in some places. places (mental institutions can ''make'' you crazy). Even if they did, did let him out, the damage is would be already done.done.
24th Dec '16 9:41:37 AM CaptEquinox
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** They're not squatters. They "work and pay and live and die" in the town. They're working-class or working-poor (they have jobs or are self-employed but their income falls below the poverty level), big difference.
21st Dec '16 9:35:05 PM kalliston
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** Given what a dirty, seedy den of iniquity the alternate-universe town is, and what's become of Mary's childhood friend Violet -- last seen outside a bar and surrounded by angry or indifferent men, being manhandled into a squad car -- Pottersville may be a ''very'' dangerous place to be a single working woman. (Perhaps the only thing that saves the situation from being a total nightmare is the strangers willing to help her fend George off -- and even they seem more ticked-off at George for making a fuss than altruistically concerned for Mary's safety.)
16th Dec '16 10:54:24 PM CaptEquinox
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* Another BookEnds is the scene where George runs down the street through pouring rain to open the Building & Loan, and then at the end he's running (albeit on the opposite side of the street) through snow. Merrrrie Christmas, you wonderful old Building & Loan!
16th Dec '16 7:27:51 PM ANewMan
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* What's so bad about Pottersville anyway? Even more businesses seem to be booming. But, wait... In Pottersville, all the businesses in Bedford Falls went out of, well, business and were replaced with escapist entertainment -- gambling, bars, and strip clubs -- where people waste money and thus get deeper and deeper into the trouble that sends them there for escape in the first place. (Look at the size of that pawn shop.) The nature of the businesses in Pottersville is a sign that the residents have given up and are simply trying to numb the pain of existing rather than trying to thrive and live.

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* What's so bad about Pottersville anyway? Even more businesses seem to be booming. But, wait... In Pottersville, all the businesses in Bedford Falls went out of, well, business and were replaced with escapist entertainment -- gambling, bars, and strip clubs -- where people waste money and thus get deeper and deeper into the trouble that sends them there for escape in the first place. (Look at the size of that pawn shop.) The nature of the businesses in Pottersville is a sign that the residents have given up and are simply trying to numb the pain of existing rather than trying to thrive and live. Even worse, if enough money is squandered at these places, people land themselves in the poor houses of Potter's slum neighborhoods, perpetuating the terrible living conditions for the citizens living in this town, which ultimately seems only good for tourism rather than finding a home there.
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