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* When Kessler shows Cole a vision of the future, Cole states that he knew he was responsible for the rampant destruction that would take place. Later, it is revealed that it's actually the Beast who causes it. [[spoiler: Given how the Beast inadvertently comes about in Cole's timeline through Kessler's machinations, Cole was technically right.]]
** On top of that, it's revealed that [[spoiler:it's because of the Ray Sphere's creation that everything hit the fan in the first place: the plague, psychotic conduits, The Beast itself. And since Kessler went back in time to create the Ray Sphere early, he inadvertently not only caused all the bad shit to happen way earlier then expected, but also made things that much worse then in his timeline. He didn't know HOW The Beast was created of course so he can't be blamed, but it still presents the nauseating idea that if Kessler had simply gone back in time and made sure the Ray Sphere was ''never'' made, all of this could have been avoided...]]
*** In a way Kessler's plan did indeed work, however. [[spoiler: Consider this: Dr. Wolfe was working on the Ray Sphere development under Kessler's leadership and was able to come up with the RFI, and it's highly unlikely that Wolfe was able to make the device in a reasonable span of time in the original timeline. But by accelerating the development of the Ray Sphere, Kessler inadvertently aided Dr. Wolfe in creating the device that would bring about the Beast's downfall, which wouldn't have been possible had Kessler not helped Cole develop his powers more quickly and be able to use the RFI!]]
** Possibly. [[spoiler: The Ray Sphere enhances/activates someone with the Conduit gene. It's hinted that Conduits develop powers naturally, which means that The Beast could have come about without the Ray Sphere, just much further down the timeline.]]
** Kessler's ability involves [[spoiler:giving people memories. So by this idea, he is actually giving Cole a memory of the destruction that happens in his own timeline. Since in his life he ran away from the Beast, he actually "caused" the destruction by running away from the Beast instead of stopping him before hand. Kessler did cause the death and destruction, just not directly.]]
*** We don't know how [[spoiler:the Beast or Kessler got their powers in the original timeline, but the information given implies that the Beast was at least close to full power when he emerged. Even if Kessler was at the height of his powers then, he would have been destroyed if he tried to fight the Beast. Cole only survived his first encounter because the Beast didn't want to kill him. Kessler's claims of guilt ring hollow when you realize that there is nothing he could have done, and even after a lifetime of research in the second timeline, someone else created the thing that defeated the Beast.]]
** At the end of inFamous, [[spoiler:Kessler states that he could have defeated the beast back when it first emerged but chose to run away to protect his family. Hence why he kills Trish so Cole won't make the same mistake. By the time the beast caught up with Kessler, it was too powerful for him to handle]].
* [[spoiler: Trish dies]], no matter which building you climb. Normally this would seem impossible if you've played both outcomes of this mission. That is, until you realize that [[spoiler: Kessler is Cole from an alternate future. He knows which decision Cole would likely make (even if he never did it himself)]]., and plans [[spoiler: her death]] accordingly.
* [[spoiler:Kessler and the Beast]] are both considered [[AntiClimaxBoss Anti-Climax Bosses]]. Why? [[spoiler:Kessler's entire plan was to make his past self Cole strong enough to defeat the Beast, which he was unable to. His plan succeeded.]]
* The [[spoiler:death of Trish]] seems, at first, to be cheating -- no matter which building you choose, [[spoiler:Trish will always turn out to be on the other one]], the villain's actions retroactively adjusting to screw you over regardless of your choice. But after the end of the game, you realize Kessler chose whether to lie to Cole or not based on his knowledge of ''what Cole would do''. [[spoiler:By choosing what Cole does, you determine what is ''in his nature'' to do, therefore what Kessler would ''predict'' Cole would do, therefore which building Trish is on.]]
* {{Word of God}} has declared that the hero endings are canon. At first, one would presume that this eliminates the evil endings completely, however, when [[spoiler: Kessler's involvement]] is taken into consideration, there are really at least three timelines: the heroic Cole's, the infamous Cole's and [[spoiler: Kessler's]]. Therefore, the bad endings could be considered "canon" as well.

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* When Kessler shows Cole a vision of the future, Cole states that he knew he was responsible for the rampant destruction that would take place. Later, it is revealed that it's actually the Beast who causes it. [[spoiler: Given how the Beast inadvertently comes about in Cole's timeline through Kessler's machinations, Cole was technically right.]]
right.
** On top of that, it's revealed that [[spoiler:it's it's because of the Ray Sphere's creation that everything hit the fan in the first place: the plague, psychotic conduits, The Beast itself. And since Kessler went back in time to create the Ray Sphere early, he inadvertently not only caused all the bad shit to happen way earlier then expected, but also made things that much worse then in his timeline. He didn't know HOW The Beast was created of course so he can't be blamed, but it still presents the nauseating idea that if Kessler had simply gone back in time and made sure the Ray Sphere was ''never'' made, all of this could have been avoided...]]
avoided...
*** In a way Kessler's plan did indeed work, however. [[spoiler: Consider this: Dr. Wolfe was working on the Ray Sphere development under Kessler's leadership and was able to come up with the RFI, and it's highly unlikely that Wolfe was able to make the device in a reasonable span of time in the original timeline. But by accelerating the development of the Ray Sphere, Kessler inadvertently aided Dr. Wolfe in creating the device that would bring about the Beast's downfall, which wouldn't have been possible had Kessler not helped Cole develop his powers more quickly and be able to use the RFI!]]
RFI!
** Possibly. [[spoiler: The Ray Sphere enhances/activates someone with the Conduit gene. It's hinted that Conduits develop powers naturally, which means that The Beast could have come about without the Ray Sphere, just much further down the timeline.]]
timeline.
** Kessler's ability involves [[spoiler:giving giving people memories. So by this idea, he is actually giving Cole a memory of the destruction that happens in his own timeline. Since in his life he ran away from the Beast, he actually "caused" the destruction by running away from the Beast instead of stopping him before hand. Kessler did cause the death and destruction, just not directly.]]
directly.
*** We don't know how [[spoiler:the the Beast or Kessler got their powers in the original timeline, but the information given implies that the Beast was at least close to full power when he emerged. Even if Kessler was at the height of his powers then, he would have been destroyed if he tried to fight the Beast. Cole only survived his first encounter because the Beast didn't want to kill him. Kessler's claims of guilt ring hollow when you realize that there is nothing he could have done, and even after a lifetime of research in the second timeline, someone else created the thing that defeated the Beast.]]
Beast.
** At the end of inFamous, [[spoiler:Kessler Kessler states that he could have defeated the beast back when it first emerged but chose to run away to protect his family. Hence why he kills Trish so Cole won't make the same mistake. By the time the beast caught up with Kessler, it was too powerful for him to handle]].handle.
* [[spoiler: Trish dies]], dies, no matter which building you climb. Normally this would seem impossible if you've played both outcomes of this mission. That is, until you realize that [[spoiler: Kessler is Cole from an alternate future. He knows which decision Cole would likely make (even if he never did it himself)]]., himself), and plans [[spoiler: her death]] death accordingly.
* [[spoiler:Kessler Kessler and the Beast]] Beast are both considered [[AntiClimaxBoss Anti-Climax Bosses]]. Why? [[spoiler:Kessler's Kessler's entire plan was to make his past self Cole strong enough to defeat the Beast, which he was unable to. His plan succeeded.]]
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* The [[spoiler:death death of Trish]] Trish seems, at first, to be cheating -- no matter which building you choose, [[spoiler:Trish Trish will always turn out to be on the other one]], one, the villain's actions retroactively adjusting to screw you over regardless of your choice. But after the end of the game, you realize Kessler chose whether to lie to Cole or not based on his knowledge of ''what Cole would do''. [[spoiler:By By choosing what Cole does, you determine what is ''in his nature'' to do, therefore what Kessler would ''predict'' Cole would do, therefore which building Trish is on.]]
on.
* {{Word of God}} has declared that the hero endings are canon. At first, one would presume that this eliminates the evil endings completely, however, when [[spoiler: Kessler's involvement]] involvement is taken into consideration, there are really at least three timelines: the heroic Cole's, the infamous Cole's and [[spoiler: Kessler's]].Kessler's. Therefore, the bad endings could be considered "canon" as well.



* "Kessel" is a German word for "copper". Copper is commonly used as a conductor to make electricity go where it is needed. [[spoiler: Kessler is the conductor guiding Cole's path to where he needs to be to defeat the Beast.]]
* Kessler knows [[spoiler: Zeke]] isn't a conduit, but willingly tempts him to his side with the promise of making him one, despite this seeming out of character for what a brutal person he is. [[spoiler: This was, in all likelihood, a PetTheDog moment because it meant that Zeke had severed his and Cole's bonds, so Kessler wouldn't have to kill him or involve him in a SecretTestOfCharacter like he did Trish. KindToBeCruel at its finest, it lets Kessler spare one of his oldest friends.]]
** [[spoiler:Also, Kessler's true goal was rewarded if this was his plan. Zeke was much more helpful against the Beast than against Kessler. Maybe the villain knew Zeke would help?]]

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* "Kessel" is a German word for "copper". Copper is commonly used as a conductor to make electricity go where it is needed. [[spoiler: Kessler is the conductor guiding Cole's path to where he needs to be to defeat the Beast.]]
Beast.
* Kessler knows [[spoiler: Zeke]] Zeke isn't a conduit, but willingly tempts him to his side with the promise of making him one, despite this seeming out of character for what a brutal person he is. [[spoiler: This was, in all likelihood, a PetTheDog moment because it meant that Zeke had severed his and Cole's bonds, so Kessler wouldn't have to kill him or involve him in a SecretTestOfCharacter like he did Trish. KindToBeCruel at its finest, it lets Kessler spare one of his oldest friends.]]
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** [[spoiler:Also, Also, Kessler's true goal was rewarded if this was his plan. Zeke was much more helpful against the Beast than against Kessler. Maybe the villain knew Zeke would help?]]help?
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* If Trish and Amy’s parents are still alive, how are they going to take the fact that both of their daughters died within a short time of each other?

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** Which also puts all of his moral choice moments into perspective. Even up towards the end, he'll constantly point out that he could do the morally right thing, or the horrific crimes and murders that make life easier for him. It hints that even a purely heroic Cole is always flirting with the dark side of his mind, always one pragmatic or murderous choice away from deciding to destroy anything in his path for his own ends, and he doesn't even seem disgusted by the mere thought of it.

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** Given the whole origin of Kessler, this was likely canon indeed, just not from what the player sees.
** Which also puts all of his moral choice moments into perspective. Even up towards the end, he'll constantly point out that he could do the morally right thing, or the horrific crimes and murders that make life easier for him. It hints that even a purely heroic Cole is always flirting with the dark side of his mind, always one pragmatic or murderous choice away from deciding to destroy anything in his path for his own ends, and he doesn't even seem disgusted by the mere thought of it.
it. And that's even before knowing the terror of the Beast that Kessler sacrificed everything to prepare for.
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** Which also puts all of his moral choice moments into perspective. Even up towards the end, he'll constantly point out that he could do the morally right thing, or the horrific crimes and murders that make life easier for him. It hints that even a purely heroic Cole is always flirting with the dark side of his mind, always one pragmatic or murderous choice away from deciding to destroy anything in his path for his own ends, and he doesn't even seem disgusted by the mere thought of it.
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* Kessler knows [[spoiler: Zeke]] isn't a conduit, but willingly tempts him to his side with the promise of making him one, despite this seeming out of character for what a brutal person he is. [[spoiler: This was, in all likelihood, a PetTheDog moment because it meant that Zeke had severed his and Cole's bonds, so Kessler wouldn't have to kill him or involve him in a SecretTestOfCharacter like he did Trish. KindToBeCruel at its finest, it lets Kessler spare one of his oldest friends.]]

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* Kessler knows [[spoiler: Zeke]] isn't a conduit, but willingly tempts him to his side with the promise of making him one, despite this seeming out of character for what a brutal person he is. [[spoiler: This was, in all likelihood, a PetTheDog moment because it meant that Zeke had severed his and Cole's bonds, so Kessler wouldn't have to kill him or involve him in a SecretTestOfCharacter like he did Trish. KindToBeCruel at its finest, it lets Kessler spare one of his oldest friends.]]]]
** [[spoiler:Also, Kessler's true goal was rewarded if this was his plan. Zeke was much more helpful against the Beast than against Kessler. Maybe the villain knew Zeke would help?]]
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* "Kessel" is a German word for "copper". Copper is commonly used as a conductor to make electricity go where it is needed. [[spoiler: Kessler is the conductor guiding Cole's path to where he needs to be to defeat the Beast.]]

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* "Kessel" is a German word for "copper". Copper is commonly used as a conductor to make electricity go where it is needed. [[spoiler: Kessler is the conductor guiding Cole's path to where he needs to be to defeat the Beast.]]
* Kessler knows [[spoiler: Zeke]] isn't a conduit, but willingly tempts him to his side with the promise of making him one, despite this seeming out of character for what a brutal person he is. [[spoiler: This was, in all likelihood, a PetTheDog moment because it meant that Zeke had severed his and Cole's bonds, so Kessler wouldn't have to kill him or involve him in a SecretTestOfCharacter like he did Trish. KindToBeCruel at its finest, it lets Kessler spare one of his oldest friends.
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