History Fridge / HouseOfM

18th Nov '16 11:04:16 PM Ymirsdaughter
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** Another alternative: Wanda could not take the powers of those who were opposing her, on account that they were already fighting her and the resistance was too much for the all-encompassing sweep; she could also not touch those who had already died in the M-timeline, because they were no longer there for her to remove their powers.
14th Jun '16 3:42:13 PM StFan
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* In ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the authors introduce [[TheScrappy Layla Miller]], a young girl who is able to make characters remember that they are in fact part of a CosmicRetcon by Scarlet Witch. After the event, she disappears for a bit before reappearing in ''ComicBook/{{X-Factor}}'', where it is eventually revealed that she has the power to bring things back to life, only without a soul. Now, if you'll pardon a bit of WildMassGuessing, here's where the brilliance kicks in: everyone in ComicBook/HouseOfM was dead except for the Scarlet Witch, who had killed everyone. Layla brought the people back to life, and they lost their souls in the process. For example, Spider-Man sells his marriage (but not his soul) to Mephisto in ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''; Cyclops starts X-Force, a black ops team that goes against the peaceful co-existence that the X-Men have gone for in the past; Emma Frost uses a DeadlyGame to select students who will have continued education following the Decimation; Hawkeye decides to just outright murder Norman Osborn after he becomes head of S.H.I.E.L.D. replacement H.A.M.M.E.R.; and Doctor Strange starts using darker magic. Whilst it doesn't apply to everyone (Luke Cage, Iron Fist & Ms Marvel, for example) a number of the characters who had their memories restored by Layla have been subject to some sort of derailment since ''House of M''.

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* In ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the authors introduce [[TheScrappy Layla Miller]], a young girl who is able to make characters remember that they are in fact part of a CosmicRetcon by Scarlet Witch. After the event, she disappears for a bit before reappearing in ''ComicBook/{{X-Factor}}'', ''ComicBook/XFactor'', where it is eventually revealed that she has the power to bring things back to life, only without a soul. Now, if you'll pardon a bit of WildMassGuessing, here's where the brilliance kicks in: everyone in ComicBook/HouseOfM ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'' was dead except for the Scarlet Witch, who had killed everyone. Layla brought the people back to life, and they lost their souls in the process. For example, Spider-Man sells his marriage (but not his soul) to Mephisto in ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''; Cyclops starts X-Force, a black ops team that goes against the peaceful co-existence that the X-Men have gone for in the past; Emma Frost uses a DeadlyGame to select students who will have continued education following the Decimation; Hawkeye decides to just outright murder Norman Osborn after he becomes head of S.H.I.E.L.D. replacement H.A.M.M.E.R.; and Doctor Strange starts using darker magic. Whilst it doesn't apply to everyone (Luke Cage, Iron Fist & Ms Marvel, for example) a number of the characters who had their memories restored by Layla have been subject to some sort of derailment since ''House of M''.
28th Nov '15 4:15:27 PM nombretomado
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* Spider-Woman questions if it's not best to leave the effects of Wanda's reality warp in place. It was revealed several years later in ''SecretInvasion'' that Jessica Drew had been replaced by a Skrull impostor before she joined the New Avengers & when she regains her memories of the original timeline, she doesn't blurt out "Holy crap, the last thing I remember was the Skrulls kidnapping me!" - "Jessica Drew" in the ''House of M'' timeline is Veranke, whose greatest desire was for the the restoration of the Skrull Empire.

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* Spider-Woman questions if it's not best to leave the effects of Wanda's reality warp in place. It was revealed several years later in ''SecretInvasion'' ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'' that Jessica Drew had been replaced by a Skrull impostor before she joined the New Avengers & when she regains her memories of the original timeline, she doesn't blurt out "Holy crap, the last thing I remember was the Skrulls kidnapping me!" - "Jessica Drew" in the ''House of M'' timeline is Veranke, whose greatest desire was for the the restoration of the Skrull Empire.
18th Oct '15 5:42:16 PM MagBas
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* Back in the 1990s, during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, the X-Men reigned supreme and the Avengers had just a small number of fans. Then, an all-powerful mutant kills most of the non-mutant heroes, but he can't be blamed: he's just a beloved mutant having a "NotHimself" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four may piss off, but who cares? Time passes, the Dark age faded away, the popularity of the X-Men declined, the popularity of the Avengers rose... and then this. An all-powerful Avenger depowers most of the mutants, but she can't be blamed: she's just a beloved Avenger having a "[[NotHimself Not Herself]]" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the X-Men may piss off, but who cares? A well deserved meta-IronicHell period for the X-Men came next.
** ...ironically coming with much better stories than those being published during the Dark Age, when the X-Men were on top.

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* Back in the 1990s, during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, the X-Men reigned supreme and the Avengers had just a small number of fans. Then, an all-powerful mutant kills most of the non-mutant heroes, but he can't be blamed: he's just a beloved mutant having a "NotHimself" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four may piss off, but who cares? Time passes, the Dark age faded away, the popularity of the X-Men declined, the popularity of the Avengers rose... and then this. An all-powerful Avenger depowers most of the mutants, but she can't be blamed: she's just a beloved Avenger having a "[[NotHimself Not Herself]]" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the X-Men may piss off, but who cares? A well deserved meta-IronicHell period for the X-Men came next.
** ...ironically coming with much better stories than those being published during the Dark Age, when the X-Men were on top.

14th Jun '15 12:00:41 PM onegun
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* Back in the 1990s, during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, the X-Men reigned supreme and the Avengers had just a small number of fans. Then, an all-powerful mutant kills most of the non-mutant heroes, but he can't be blamed: he's just a beloved mutant having a "NotHimself" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four may piss off, but who cares? Time passes, the Dark age faded away, the popularity of the X-Men declined, the popularity of the Avengers rised... and then this. An all-powerful Avenger depowers most of the mutants, but she can't be blamed: she's just a beloved Avenger having a "[[NotHimself Not Herself]]" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the X-Men may piss off, but who cares? A well deserved meta-IronicHell period for the X-Men came next.

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* Back in the 1990s, during UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, the X-Men reigned supreme and the Avengers had just a small number of fans. Then, an all-powerful mutant kills most of the non-mutant heroes, but he can't be blamed: he's just a beloved mutant having a "NotHimself" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four may piss off, but who cares? Time passes, the Dark age faded away, the popularity of the X-Men declined, the popularity of the Avengers rised...rose... and then this. An all-powerful Avenger depowers most of the mutants, but she can't be blamed: she's just a beloved Avenger having a "[[NotHimself Not Herself]]" crisis. Yes, those few fans of the X-Men may piss off, but who cares? A well deserved meta-IronicHell period for the X-Men came next.
14th Jun '15 11:55:51 AM onegun
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* When mentioning the Decimation, people usually snark that over 90% of mutants lost their powers, yet somehow almost none of the big names (Cyclops, Wolverine, etc.) were effected. Obviously, this is because [[StatusQuoIsGod Marvel couldn't just spontaneously de-power some of their biggest names]], but if you think about it, there might be an in-universe explanation. On some level, Wanda must be aware that some mutants would be miserable without their abilities - especially those she knows, and has interacted with. She removes the abilities of thousands of mutants she's never met, and herself and her family (presumably because she thinks Pietro would be better off and wants to punish her father), but when it comes to the X-Men? Subconsciously, despite her madness and misery, she can't go through with it, and the effect is sporadic at best.

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* When mentioning the Decimation, people usually snark that over 90% of mutants lost their powers, yet somehow almost none of the big names (Cyclops, Wolverine, etc.) were effected.affected. Obviously, this is because [[StatusQuoIsGod Marvel couldn't just spontaneously de-power some of their biggest names]], but if you think about it, there might be an in-universe explanation. On some level, Wanda must be aware that some mutants would be miserable without their abilities - especially those she knows, and has interacted with. She removes the abilities of thousands of mutants she's never met, and herself and her family (presumably because she thinks Pietro would be better off and wants to punish her father), but when it comes to the X-Men? Subconsciously, despite her madness and misery, she can't go through with it, and the effect is sporadic at best.
1st Jun '15 7:15:12 AM RookEncounte
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** Alternatively, Wanda started with the mutants furthest away from her, and since her power-nullification affected her, it couldn't affect the people around her first. She also started with a general focus, and either ran out of power or out of will to continue when she started affecting people she knew.
1st Jun '15 6:56:43 AM RookEncounte
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* At first it seems strange and incredibly tragic that Professor Xavier is dead, and makes readers wonder whose perfect world it is that he is gone for good. But Magneto wouldn't have wanted Xavier dead, and nobody else, upon being "woken up" by Layla seems to think that Xavier being dead was their "perfect world". Why is this? Because in Charles Xavier's perfect world, [[DeathSeeker he died a meaningful death]] [[[[HeroicSacrifice that led to humans and mutants living side-by-side in peace.]]

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* At first it seems strange and incredibly tragic that Professor Xavier is dead, and makes readers wonder whose perfect world it is that he is gone for good. But Magneto wouldn't have wanted Xavier dead, and nobody else, upon being "woken up" by Layla seems to think that Xavier being dead was their "perfect world". Why is this? Because in Charles Xavier's perfect world, [[DeathSeeker he died a meaningful death]] [[[[HeroicSacrifice [[HeroicSacrifice that led to humans and mutants living side-by-side in peace.]]
1st Jun '15 6:56:30 AM RookEncounte
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* At first it seems strange and incredibly tragic that Professor Xavier is dead, and makes readers wonder whose perfect world it is that he is gone for good. But Magneto wouldn't have wanted Xavier dead, and nobody else, upon being "woken up" by Layla seems to think that Xavier being dead was their "perfect world". Why is this? Because in Charles Xavier's perfect world, [[DeathSeeker he died a meaningful death]] [[[[HeroicSacrifice that led to humans and mutants living side-by-side in peace.]]
22nd Mar '15 8:34:33 AM bogslug
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** ...ironically coming with much better stories than those being published during the Dark Age, when the X-Men were on top.
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