History Fridge / Hercules

5th Jun '16 12:15:57 PM timrulez
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* In Hercules, Hades' afterlife is a deep whirlpool where [[FateWorseThanDeath souls are condemned to swirl around forever]] under the watch of [[EverybodyHatesHades an apathetic death god.]] While the Elysian Fields exists, only the souls of heroes go there. In the world of Hercules ''the majority of mankind'' is condemned to [[AndIMustScream eternally drift in a vortex or splash around in the River Styx]](and even if Hades ended up being booted off, that still means a billion souls have suffered for centuries). At least in the actual Hades you can wander...

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* In Hercules, Hades' afterlife is a deep whirlpool where [[FateWorseThanDeath souls are condemned to swirl around forever]] under the watch of [[EverybodyHatesHades an apathetic death god.]] While the Elysian Fields exists, only the souls of heroes go there. In the world of Hercules ''the majority of mankind'' is condemned to [[AndIMustScream eternally drift in a vortex or splash around in the River Styx]](and even if Hades ended up being booted off, that still means a billion souls have suffered for centuries). At least in the actual Hades you can wander...wander...
* Even though the ending of this movie was treated as a HappyEnding, no good can really come out of it. Hercules will eventually die, and poor Zeus and Hera will have to watch and then suffer with it for all of eternity. Keep in mind that those two already missed out on his whole childhood, and now this! Even if he does ascend to Mt. Olympus after his death (since he did earn his godhood, he simply chose to give it up), there's no way Meg will be allowed up there, meaning Herc will have to live for eternity alone, while the love of his life is stuck floating in a river. Even if he was able to save her from the face of death before, I doubt he can do anything about her dying of old age.
21st Apr '16 9:25:24 PM Misty451
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* In Hercules, Hades' afterlife is a deep whirlpool where [[FateWoreThanDeath souls are condemned to swirl around forever]] under the watch of [[EverybodyHatesHades an apathetic death god.]] While the Elysian Fields exists, only the souls of heroes go there. In the world of Hercules ''the majority of mankind'' is condemned to [[AndIMustScream eternally drift in a vortex or splash around in the River Styx]](and even if Hades ended up being booted off, that still means a billion souls have suffered for centuries). At least in the actual Hades you can wander...

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* In Hercules, Hades' afterlife is a deep whirlpool where [[FateWoreThanDeath [[FateWorseThanDeath souls are condemned to swirl around forever]] under the watch of [[EverybodyHatesHades an apathetic death god.]] While the Elysian Fields exists, only the souls of heroes go there. In the world of Hercules ''the majority of mankind'' is condemned to [[AndIMustScream eternally drift in a vortex or splash around in the River Styx]](and even if Hades ended up being booted off, that still means a billion souls have suffered for centuries). At least in the actual Hades you can wander...
13th Feb '16 8:48:41 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* In Hercules, Hades' afterlife is a deep whirlpool where [[FateWoreThanDeath souls are condemned to swirl around forever]] under the watch of [[EverybodyHatesHades an apathetic death god.]] While the Elysian Fields exists, only the souls of heroes go there. In the world of Hercules ''the majority of mankind'' is condemned to [[AndIMustScream eternally drift in a vortex or splash around in the River Styx]](and even if Hades ended up being booted off, that still means a billion souls have suffered for centuries). At least in the actual Hades you can wander...
9th Aug '15 8:12:24 AM WalterSmith
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* In the usual HappyEnding, Hercules renounces to immortality in order to live with Meg. Now, this may be a good way to end a Disney classic. But...did we forget he became a *MORTAL* again? Unless he and Meg will spend the rest of eternity in the Elysian Fields, they will age, die and descend in the river of death as everyone else did earlier (thereby, Herc was stuck in a MortonsFork, as he had to decide whether entering into Mount Olympus and leave Meg alone, or abandoning it once again and spend the rest of his life as a mortal). I wonder if this time Zeus will tolerate an exception to the rule, for his son already experienced a breath-taking dive in that place. And let's not forget Hades is still stuck there (yeah, he somehow could think about this FridgeHorror thread as a TakingYouWithMe). This may also explain why Zeus agreed to forge a new constellation: although Hercules, who was born as a GOD, would have spended his eternity in the Underworld, his legend would have lived on with him.

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* In the usual HappyEnding, Hercules renounces to immortality in order to live with Meg. Now, this may be a good way to end a Disney classic. But...did we forget he became a *MORTAL* again? Unless he and Meg will spend the rest of eternity in the Elysian Fields, they will age, die and descend in the river of death as everyone else did earlier (thereby, Herc was stuck in a MortonsFork, as he had to decide whether entering into Mount Olympus and leave Meg alone, or abandoning it once again and spend the rest of his life as a mortal). I wonder if this time Zeus will tolerate an exception to the rule, for his son already experienced a breath-taking dive in that place. And let's not forget Hades is still stuck there (yeah, he somehow could think about this FridgeHorror thread as a TakingYouWithMe). This may also explain why Zeus agreed to forge a new constellation: although Hercules, who was born as a GOD, would have spended his eternity in the Underworld, his legend would have lived on with him.him...on the sky whence it came from.
9th Aug '15 8:11:05 AM WalterSmith
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* In the usual HappyEnding, Hercules renounces to immortality in order to live with Meg. Now, this may be a good way to end a Disney classic. But...did we forget he became a *MORTAL* again? Unless he and Meg will spend the rest of eternity in the Elysian Fields, they will age, die and descend in the river of death as everyone else did earlier. I wonder if this time Zeus will tolerate an exception to the rule, for his son already experienced a breath-taking dive in that place. And let's not forget Hades is still stuck there (yeah, he somehow could think about this FridgeHorror thread as a TakingYouWithMe).

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* In the usual HappyEnding, Hercules renounces to immortality in order to live with Meg. Now, this may be a good way to end a Disney classic. But...did we forget he became a *MORTAL* again? Unless he and Meg will spend the rest of eternity in the Elysian Fields, they will age, die and descend in the river of death as everyone else did earlier.earlier (thereby, Herc was stuck in a MortonsFork, as he had to decide whether entering into Mount Olympus and leave Meg alone, or abandoning it once again and spend the rest of his life as a mortal). I wonder if this time Zeus will tolerate an exception to the rule, for his son already experienced a breath-taking dive in that place. And let's not forget Hades is still stuck there (yeah, he somehow could think about this FridgeHorror thread as a TakingYouWithMe). This may also explain why Zeus agreed to forge a new constellation: although Hercules, who was born as a GOD, would have spended his eternity in the Underworld, his legend would have lived on with him.
9th Aug '15 8:05:42 AM WalterSmith
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* In the usual HappyEnding, Hercules renounces to immortality in order to live with Meg. Now, this may be a good way to end a Disney classic. But...did we forget he became a *MORTAL* again? Unless he and Meg will spend the rest of eternity in the Elysian Fields, they will age, die and descend in the river of death as everyone else did earlier. I wonder if this time Zeus will tolerate an exception to the rule, for his son already experienced a breath-taking dive in that place. And let's not forget Hades is still stuck there (yeah, he somehow could think about this FridgeHorror thread as a TakingYouWithMe).
17th Jul '15 4:21:57 AM tommy1138
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* During Phil's song about how every hero he's trained has died, he jumps on to a stump and is about to say something along the lines of "I won't train you" until he's struck by lightning and suddenly agrees by saying "Ok". At first it looks like it's for comedic effect, until you realize that Zeus is the God of lightning, and therefore Zeus is threatening/ordering Phil to train Herc' Phil isn't just talking to Hercules when he agrees, he's talking to Zeus.

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* During Phil's song about how every hero he's trained has died, he jumps on to a stump and is about to say something along the lines of "I won't train you" until he's struck by lightning and suddenly agrees by saying "Ok". At first it looks like it's for comedic effect, until you realize that Zeus is the God of lightning, and therefore Zeus is threatening/ordering Phil to train Herc' Herc'. Phil isn't just talking to Hercules when he agrees, he's talking to Zeus.
17th Jul '15 4:20:48 AM tommy1138
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*During Phil's song about how every hero he's trained has died, he jumps on to a stump and is about to say something along the lines of "I won't train you" until he's struck by lightning and suddenly agrees by saying "Ok". At first it looks like it's for comedic effect, until you realize that Zeus is the God of lightning, and therefore Zeus is threatening/ordering Phil to train Herc' Phil isn't just talking to Hercules when he agrees, he's talking to Zeus.
1st May '15 1:20:23 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** Oh, and if you also know the mythology, you know that in the end, when Hercules is married (though not to Megaera), that same centaur (Nessus) winds up ''killing'' Hercules with a poison shirt in revenge for an incident like this one.
*** For that matter, the reason Hercules isn't married to Megaera when he is killed with the poison shirt is because he went mad and killed her and their children (it's why he had to do the twelve labors).
**** Although some versions say that he didn't kill ''her'', just the two kids (not that this makes it any better, mind you); Megara found out and [[ThisIsUnforgivable was so distraught that she fled and never spoke to him again]].
*** [[{{Disneyfication}} You'll probably get a lot of this type of "dirty secret" stuff from any kind of mature subject matter adapted into a children's movie.]] From my own limited knowledge on Greek mythology, I'm willing to bet damn near all the characters in ''Hercules'' have been involved in some awful stuff one way or another. Like, for example, Zeus and Hera happen to be siblings. And Zeus apparently raped Hera into marrying him, and then goes on to cheat on her numerous times.
*** And in the original mythology, Hera hated Hercules because he was not her biological child and was responsible for much of the hardships of his life.
**** Actually, it was more that; he was named after her - his Greek name was really Heracles, and Hercules was his name in Roman. But Hera was later grateful to Heracles when he saved her from being raped by a giant.
24th Apr '15 10:39:13 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** Hercules' abilities were surprising cunning for someone you wouldn't expect it from (just see how he cleaned the Augean Stables or made a fool of Atlas) and being so strong to go BeyondTheImpossible and defeat death. We see him proving his cunning against the Hydra (how do you kill a monster that regenerates every time you cut its head? You squash it) and the Cyclop (Herc had been BroughtDownToNormal, yet he managed to win by outsmarting him), he proves the ability to defeat death when he survives what should have killed him and revives Megara, and for the ability to go BeyondTheImpossible... Well, the Titans were gods, thus immortal (hence why Zeus imprisoned them), yet Hercules ''killed them''. And that's without going with the whole thing of writing his own fate...

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** Hercules' abilities were surprising cunning for someone you wouldn't expect it from (just see how he cleaned the Augean Stables or made a fool of Atlas) and being so strong to go BeyondTheImpossible and defeat death. We see him proving his cunning against the Hydra (how do you kill a monster that regenerates every time you cut its head? You squash it) and the Cyclop (Herc had been BroughtDownToNormal, yet he managed to win by outsmarting him), he proves the ability to defeat death when he survives what should have killed him and revives Megara, and for the ability to go BeyondTheImpossible... Well, the The Titans were gods, thus immortal (hence why Zeus imprisoned them), yet Hercules ''killed them''. And that's without going with the whole thing of writing his own fate...
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