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* In Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah, Emi Kano stated Godzilla never destroyed Japan. 2 movies later, we are introduced to [=BabyGodzilla=] that would not kill a human being. In Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah, both Godzilla and Junior dies, but guess who [[BackFromTheDead came back to life]]? Junior.

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* In Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah, ''Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah'', Emi Kano stated Godzilla never destroyed Japan. 2 movies later, we are introduced to [=BabyGodzilla=] that would not kill a human being. In Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah, ''Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah'', both Godzilla and Junior dies, but guess who [[BackFromTheDead came back to life]]? Junior.



* In Film/GodzillaFinalWars, Godzilla takes longer to defeat Anguirus, Rodan, and King Caesar. When he's shown curbstomping the vast majority of the other monsters very quickly. Why? Because he's trying to spare them. Body language in the beginning also shows that he's surprised Anguirus is trying to attack him. What other reason would there be for him not one-shotting them like he did everything else?



* ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' saw a Godzilla that was [[InNameOnly almost nothing like the original]]. ''Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All Out Attack'' gives a retcon that it was simply mistaken for Godzilla. This...actually makes sense. Recall the 1998 film. The only thing the Japanese fishers saw of "Zilla" was a spiny tail and a familiar roar. And when asked what he saw, the survivor answered "Gojira". Not "a monster", Gojira specifically. That means that, like in all continuities, the original 1954 film (let's say the 1956 US version to [[ThrowTheDogABone be nice to the US]]) is canon. Thus your clue is right there from the beginning. The monster wasn't Godzilla at all. Disappointing, maybe, but it gave Toho a good escape clause.
** Actually, this troper read both the official screenplay and novelization. Quite a bit was cut for the movie. The screenplay explicitly states that the only part of the 1954 movie that is "canon" to the 1998 film is the legend. In the film, "Gojira" is merely the term for a gigantic, marine dragon from Japanese myth. The cook was referring to Zilla as a MYTHICAL CREATURE, likely one his grandparents told him about.
*** Still, didn't end up in the film so we are free to assume the above is true.



* In ''Film/DestroyAllMonsters'', The monsters, namely Godzilla knew where the Kilaak base was. If you think about this, that means the original Godzilla ''[[ItCanThink knows]]'' where and what he's targeting.
** It's been explicitly stated that Godzilla absolutely ''hates'' humanity (with only a few notable exceptions) due to them mutating him into a monster via nuclear radiation. You think a giant monster mindlessly rampaging across a city is bad? Try dealing with a monster that not only ''knows'' where he is and what he's doing, but is deliberately trying to wipe out all of humanity as an act of vengeance.
*** 'Godzilla Final Wars' is the only film where this is stated. That only applies that particular incarnation of the character. There's no evidence that the second Showa and the Heisei Godzilla flat-out hates humanity. And If Godzilla hates humanity so much, why is he always rushing to its aid starting circa 1971? The Japanese songs about the Showa Godzilla even state that "He goes anywhere for the sake of peace" and "I'm Godzilla! I'm everybody's friend!"
*** The second Godzilla initially did, too. Godzilla said as such during its conversation with Mothra when Mothra reached out to Godzilla and Rodan for aid against King Ghidorah.
* King Ghidorah in ''GMK'' is said to be an immature 8-headed dragon. Plain ol' ordinary ''three''-headed Ghidorah is one of Big G's greatest and most dangerous foes in any of either monsters' incarnations. Now imagine Ghidorah with ''eight'' heads, at full power and mad as hell. He'd be '''un-freakin'-stoppable'''.
** Of course, the ''GMK'' Ghidorah is also the weakest incarnation of the monster (Seeing as how he was utterly [[CurbStompBattle demolished by Godzilla even at full power.]]).
** I think he's a good guy... I don't know, I rooted for him rather than the NightmareFuel Godzilla.
** He's not just any 8-headed dragon, he's '''THE''' Yamato-No-Orochi. Yes, that Orochi. Let's be thankful he's a heroic Kaiju in GMK.
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* In ''Film/DestroyAllMonsters'', The monsters, namely Godzilla knew where the Kilaak base was. If you think about this, that means the original Godzilla ''[[ItCanThink knows]]'' where and what he's [[AcceptableTargets targeting]].

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* In ''Film/DestroyAllMonsters'', The monsters, namely Godzilla knew where the Kilaak base was. If you think about this, that means the original Godzilla ''[[ItCanThink knows]]'' where and what he's [[AcceptableTargets targeting]].targeting.
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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. It might be a stretch, but the violet coloring is perhaps the closest we can get to "seeing" the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.

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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. It might be a stretch, but the violet coloring is perhaps the closest we can get to "seeing" the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.
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** This is never stated in the films, but it's entirely possible that the Futurians came from the far future of the original Showa Godzilla timeline. If so it'd explain a lot of the inconsistencies...
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** Speaking of Mothra, if you watch her original movie she seems much more casual about causing destruction and death than in future appearances. This is actually character development as her next appearance makes it clear that while she can be friendly to individuals she, her fairies, and the natives are all holding a nasty grudge against the rest of the world over the destruction of her island and the events of the original movie and are perfectly happy to let Godzilla rampage through Japan out of spite. Then the protagonists give a rousing speech about how all of humanity is responsible for each other and condemning the innocent along with the guilty is unacceptable. This actually prompts Mothra and the fairies to have a HeelRealisation and assume their more heroic roles that we're familiar with!
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** Conclusion: The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity, [[TheSwarm unless you count Destoroyah as multiple organisms]]), which is Fridge Horror when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.

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** Conclusion: The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity, [[TheSwarm unless you count Destoroyah as multiple organisms]]), which is Fridge Horror when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.them.
* At the end of ''Destroyah'' Junior is revived into his adult form by absorbing his late father's energy. Junior won't be the terror his father was since ''Ghidorah'' confirms that humanity's alive and well in the 22nd century, where JapanTakesOverTheWorld. But, given that the Heisei series established ways to control Godzilla, the magnetic transmitter from ''1984'' and the T-Project from ''Space Godzilla'', did Japan eventually enslave and weaponize Junior to ensure its wealth?
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** ''Showa continuity'': Godzilla (two), Anguirus (presumably two), Rodan (two), Mothra (at least four or five), Varan, King Kong, Gorosaurus, King Ghidorah, Gigan, Megalon, Titanosaurus, Kumonga, Kamacuras, King Ceasar, Minya, Frankenstein's Monster, Baragon, Meganulon, Manda, Ebirah, Gabara.

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** ''Showa continuity'': Godzilla (two), Anguirus (presumably two), Rodan (two), Mothra (at least four or five), Varan, King Kong, Gorosaurus, King Ghidorah, Gigan, Megalon, Titanosaurus, Kumonga, Kamacuras, King Ceasar, Minya, Frankenstein's Monster, Baragon, Meganulon, Manda, Ebirah, Gabara.Hedorah [[spoiler:(implied to be two)]], [[AllJustaDream Gabara]].
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* In Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah, Emi Kano stated Godzilla never destroyed Japan. 2 movies later, we are introduced to [=BabyGodzilla=] that would not kill a human being. In Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah, both Godzilla and Junior dies, but guess who gets [[BackFromTheDead came back to life]]? Junior.

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* In Film/GodzillaVsKingGhidorah, Emi Kano stated Godzilla never destroyed Japan. 2 movies later, we are introduced to [=BabyGodzilla=] that would not kill a human being. In Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah, both Godzilla and Junior dies, but guess who gets [[BackFromTheDead came back to life]]? Junior.



* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. It might be a stretch, but the violet coloring is perhaps the closest our we can get to "seeing" the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.

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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. It might be a stretch, but the violet coloring is perhaps the closest our we can get to "seeing" the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.

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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. The violet coloring is the closest our eyes can get to seeing the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.

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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. The It might be a stretch, but the violet coloring is perhaps the closest our eyes we can get to seeing "seeing" the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.


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**** The second Godzilla initially did, too. Godzilla said as such during its conversation with Mothra when Mothra reached out to Godzilla and Rodan for aid against King Ghidorah.
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The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity, [[TheSwarm unless you count Destoroyah as multiple organisms]]), which is Fridge Horror when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.

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** Conclusion: The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity, [[TheSwarm unless you count Destoroyah as multiple organisms]]), which is Fridge Horror when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.
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* Obviously, Godzilla's already [[NightmareFuel pretty]] [[GiantFootOfStomping frighteninng]] in concept, but then take into account all the other kaiju in existence in the series and compare them to the mecha/weapon count, and you realize that the continuities are fuel for a CrapsackWorld:
** ''Showa continuity'': Godzilla (two), Anguirus, Rodan (two), Mothra (at least four or five), Varan, King Kong, Gorosaurus, King Ghidorah, Gigan, Megalon, Titanosaurus, Kumonga, Kamacuras, King Ceasar, Minya, Frankenstein's Monster, Baragon, Meganulon, Manda, Ebirah, Gabara.
*** ''Mecha/Weapons'': Mechagodzilla, Moguera, Maser Tanks, Gotengo.

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* Obviously, Godzilla's already [[NightmareFuel pretty]] [[GiantFootOfStomping frighteninng]] frightening]] in concept, but then take into account all the other kaiju in existence in the series and compare them to the mecha/weapon count, and you realize that the continuities are fuel for a CrapsackWorld:
** ''Showa continuity'': Godzilla (two), Anguirus, Anguirus (presumably two), Rodan (two), Mothra (at least four or five), Varan, King Kong, Gorosaurus, King Ghidorah, Gigan, Megalon, Titanosaurus, Kumonga, Kamacuras, King Ceasar, Minya, Frankenstein's Monster, Baragon, Meganulon, Manda, Ebirah, Gabara.
*** ''Mecha/Weapons'': Mechagodzilla, Moguera, Maser Tanks, Gotengo.Gotengo, Jet Jaguar.



** ''Millenium continuities'': Godzilla (a lot of 'em), Orga, Megaguirus, Meganuon, Meganula, King Ghidorah, Baragon, Mothra, Rodan, Kamacuras, Kumonga, Anguirus, King Ceasar, Rodan, Manda, Monster X, Monster X-II, Zilla, Gigan, Titanosaurus, Gorosaurus, Gezora, Ganimes, Kamoebas, Sanda, Gaira, Mothra, Ebirah, Varan.

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** ''Millenium continuities'': Godzilla (a lot of 'em), Orga, Megaguirus, Meganuon, Meganula, King Ghidorah, Baragon, Mothra, Rodan, Kamacuras, Kumonga, Anguirus, King Ceasar, Rodan, Manda, Monster X, Monster X-II, Keizer Ghidorah, Zilla, Gigan, Titanosaurus, Gorosaurus, Gezora, Ganimes, Kamoebas, Sanda, Gaira, Mothra, Ebirah, Varan.



The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity); which is Fridge Horror, when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.

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The kaiju always outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity); continuity, [[TheSwarm unless you count Destoroyah as multiple organisms]]), which is Fridge Horror, Horror when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.
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* In Film/ShinGodzilla, it might at first seem odd that Godzilla is firing violet atomic blasts instead of the typical blue, or even the occasional red or orange, until you take a look at the electromagnetic spectrum. Violet is the last color on the visible light part of the spectrum, and therefore has the shortest wavelength in that range. This also means that the next shortest wavelength range in the electromagnetic spectrum is ''ultraviolet''. Atomic bombs emit the highest radiation in the ultraviolet range. The violet coloring is the closest our eyes can get to seeing the sheer level of radiation that Godzilla's atomic blasts emit.
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* I've read in Mothra's bio that over the years she gains new abilities and powers. Not exactly exciting, giving that she is just a butterfly that has to go up against a three headed dragon and a lizard that breaths atomic blasts. Then I thought about the fact that Mothra is a LegacyCharacter. She passes on her legacy through her heirs and offspring. So, why does is this fridge brilliance? Because she is preforming a sort of Evolution, not against the environment, but against her enemies! She's preparing and bettering herself/her kids for the challenges that they'll/she'll face in the future!

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* I've read in Mothra's bio that over the years she gains new abilities and powers. Not exactly exciting, giving that she is just a butterfly that has to go up against a three headed three-headed dragon and a lizard that breaths atomic blasts. Then I thought about the fact that Mothra is a LegacyCharacter. She passes on her legacy through her heirs and offspring. So, why does is this fridge brilliance? Because she is preforming performing a sort of Evolution, not against the environment, but against her enemies! She's preparing and bettering herself/her kids for the challenges that they'll/she'll face in the future!



** The Oxygen Destroyer. Long story short, it kills its victims by ''asphyxiation''. To make matters worse, end the end, you're either reduced to a skeleton... or dust. It also doesn't help that the Oxygen Destroyer is ''worse'' than the atomic bomb and is the only weapon powerful enough to kill Godzilla. Then, later in the Heisei series we find out it spawned something much more evil than Godzilla.
*** Adding to this, if Godzilla hadn't been inadvertently freed by the Saradian agent in GodzillavsBiollante, indirectly causing most everything post Mothra, Destroyah would've utterly destroyed all life on earth since there wouldn't be powerful enough monsters and tech to stop him.
** In the 1964 film, ''Mothra VS Godzilla'', the egg hatches into twin Mothra larvae. Ok, nothing scary about that. But, the next film that came out the same year, ''Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster'', there's now only '''one''' Mothra larvae. So, what happened to the other one? [[spoiler: It's implied in the film that the other Mothra larvae died. And, remember how Godzilla wanted to ''eat'' the egg in MVG?]]. Also its injuries fighting Godzilla may also be a factor as Godzilla smacks the poor thing with his tail.

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** The Oxygen Destroyer. Long story short, it kills its victims by ''asphyxiation''. To make matters worse, end the end, you're either reduced to a skeleton... or dust. It also doesn't help that the Oxygen Destroyer is ''worse'' than the atomic bomb and is the only weapon powerful enough to kill Godzilla. Then, later in the Heisei series we find out it spawned something much more evil worse than Godzilla.
*** Adding to this, if Godzilla hadn't been inadvertently freed by the Saradian agent in GodzillavsBiollante, Godzilla vs Biollante, indirectly causing most everything post Mothra, Destroyah would've utterly destroyed all life on earth since there wouldn't be powerful enough monsters and tech to stop him.
** In the 1964 film, ''Mothra VS Godzilla'', the egg hatches into twin Mothra larvae. Ok, nothing scary about that. But, the next film that came out the same year, ''Ghidorah: The Three-Headed Monster'', there's now only '''one''' Mothra larvae. So, what happened to the other one? [[spoiler: It's implied in the film that the other Mothra larvae died. And, remember how Godzilla wanted to ''eat'' the egg in MVG?]]. Also Also, its injuries fighting Godzilla may also be a factor as Godzilla smacks the poor thing with his tail.



* In ''Film/DestroyAllMonsters'', The monsters, namely Godzilla knew where the Kilaaks's base was. If you think about this, that means the original Godzilla ''[[ItCanThink knows]]'' where and what he's [[AcceptableTargets targeting]].
** It's been explicitly stated that Godzilla absolutely ''hates'' humanity (with only a few notable exceptions) due to them mutating him into a monster via nuclear radiation. You think a giant monster mindlessly rampaging across a city is bad? Try dealing with a monster that not only ''knows'' where he is and what he's doing, but is deliberately trying to wipe out all of humanity as an act of vengence.

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* In ''Film/DestroyAllMonsters'', The monsters, namely Godzilla knew where the Kilaaks's Kilaak base was. If you think about this, that means the original Godzilla ''[[ItCanThink knows]]'' where and what he's [[AcceptableTargets targeting]].
** It's been explicitly stated that Godzilla absolutely ''hates'' humanity (with only a few notable exceptions) due to them mutating him into a monster via nuclear radiation. You think a giant monster mindlessly rampaging across a city is bad? Try dealing with a monster that not only ''knows'' where he is and what he's doing, but is deliberately trying to wipe out all of humanity as an act of vengence.vengeance.



* Obviously, Godzilla's already [[NightmareFuel pretty]] [[GiantFootOfStomping frighteninng]] in concept, but then take into account all the other kaiju in existance in the series and compare them to the mecha/weapon count, and you realize that the continuities are likely fuel for a CrapsackWorld:

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* Obviously, Godzilla's already [[NightmareFuel pretty]] [[GiantFootOfStomping frighteninng]] in concept, but then take into account all the other kaiju in existance existence in the series and compare them to the mecha/weapon count, and you realize that the continuities are likely fuel for a CrapsackWorld:



The kaiju always seem to outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity); which is Fridge Horror, when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.

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The kaiju always seem to outnumber the mecha/weapons (outside the Heisei continuity); which is Fridge Horror, when you remember the destruction just ''one'' kaiju is capable of; imagine 6, or 9, or 18 kaiju all working together to destroy a city, and there'd be almost ''nothing'' that could stop them.
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** Actually, this troper read both the official screenplay and novelezation. Quite a bit was cut for the movie. The screenplay explicitly states that the only part of the 1954 movie that is "canon" to the 1998 film is the legend. In the film, "Gojira" is merely the term for a gigantic, marine dragon from Japanese myth. The cook was referring to Zilla as a MYTHICAL CREATURE, likely one his grandparents told him about.

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** Actually, this troper read both the official screenplay and novelezation.novelization. Quite a bit was cut for the movie. The screenplay explicitly states that the only part of the 1954 movie that is "canon" to the 1998 film is the legend. In the film, "Gojira" is merely the term for a gigantic, marine dragon from Japanese myth. The cook was referring to Zilla as a MYTHICAL CREATURE, likely one his grandparents told him about.

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