History Fridge / Ghostbusters

27th Mar '16 6:21:38 PM worldbreaker
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** Maybe Venkman only knew Hoover's name, and had never bothered to look at a picture of the former FBI chief. Come to think of it, a recognizable name with no physical appearance attached to it wouldn't be a bad solution to 'thinking of nothing.'

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** Maybe Venkman only knew Hoover's name, and had never bothered to look at a picture of the former FBI chief. Come to think of it, a recognizable name with no physical appearance attached to it wouldn't be a bad solution to 'thinking of nothing.''
* Why is it that the Ghostbusters were accused as frauds in the second film when clearly the ghost were running rampant during the final act of the film and everyone clearly saw a 100ft Marshmallow Man causing destruction in NY? Not to mention why didn't the Ghostbusters counter sue when it wasn't them that released the Ghostbusters from the containment unit?
11th Mar '16 8:07:04 PM Sharlee
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** Given their ages and how political history isn't something any of the four seems to be interested in, it's possible that none of them actually knows what J. Edgar Hoover ''looked'' like. Presumably Gozer can't concoct his 50-foot duplicate from just a name.

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** Given their ages and how political history isn't something any of the four seems to be interested in, it's possible that none of them actually knows what J. Edgar Hoover ''looked'' like. Presumably Gozer can't concoct his 50-foot duplicate from just a name.
11th Mar '16 8:05:38 PM Sharlee
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** Given their ages and how political history isn't something any of the four seems to be interested in, it's possible that none of them actually knows what J. Edgar Hoover ''looked'' like. Presumably Gozer can't concoct his 50-foot duplicate from just a name.
15th Feb '16 2:48:59 PM Dragon101
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** Alternatively, it belongs to Dana, taking it to deal with the stress of having a dog in her fridge (or, maybe, she just leads a stressful life). Peter raids her bathroom for something, anything, that might help him deal with a demon-possessed Sigourney Weaver, and he comes across her Thorazine. Giving her 300ccs of the stuff is probably more an indication of how much it took to knock Zuul out rather than Peter risking negligent homicide. The novelisation uses this interpretation of events, though the drug he used is Valium



*** Exactly. Merely throwing an example out there is very different from saying/thinking, [[ErnestScaredStupid "Yea, I call thee forth, (__________)!"]]
*** In the game, Egon notes in Tobin's Spirit Guide (Wii/PS2 version, I'm not sure Egon's notes appear in the other versions) that they were lucky that Ray picked Stay Puft. He muses on the fact, that if they had successfully thought of nothing Gozer could had picked someone else other than the Busters to choose... or it could have gone with [[NothingIsScarier Nothing]] as its Destructor Form. And how exactly do you fight [[TheNeverendingStory Nothing]]?
*** It's exactly right. Even though this is PlayedForLaughs in the film, Ray did a variation of TookAThirdOption and chose "something that could never possibly destroy us". A 500-foot-tall Marshmallow Man, while a major nuisance to the immediate area, would not bring about a cataclysm that the architect Ivo Shandor hoped for. All the Ghostbusters needed to figure out was how to defeat him, and close the portal, and they (barely) accomplished both at the same time.

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*** **** Exactly. Merely throwing an example out there is very different from saying/thinking, [[ErnestScaredStupid "Yea, I call thee forth, (__________)!"]]
*** **** In the game, Egon notes in Tobin's Spirit Guide (Wii/PS2 version, I'm not sure Egon's notes appear in the other versions) that they were lucky that Ray picked Stay Puft. He muses on the fact, that if they had successfully thought of nothing Gozer could had picked someone else other than the Busters to choose... or it could have gone with [[NothingIsScarier Nothing]] as its Destructor Form. And how exactly do you fight [[TheNeverendingStory Nothing]]?
*** **** It's exactly right. Even though this is PlayedForLaughs in the film, Ray did a variation of TookAThirdOption and chose "something that could never possibly destroy us". A 500-foot-tall Marshmallow Man, while a major nuisance to the immediate area, would not bring about a cataclysm that the architect Ivo Shandor hoped for. All the Ghostbusters needed to figure out was how to defeat him, and close the portal, and they (barely) accomplished both at the same time.
15th Feb '16 2:42:11 PM Dragon101
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*** This is later expanded on in the animated series, as the containment unit is shown as a place all but the most incorrigible ghosts actually greatly prefer to the living world - a quiet, peaceful existence free of all the things that can piss off a traumatized human being lacking a physical body. It's often implied to be a scientific equivalent to a ''very'' high quality resting place; as in a ''pharaoh's tomb''. Ghosts have been known to seek the 'Busters out just so they can go in of their own free will.

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*** This is later expanded on in the animated series, as the containment unit is shown as a place all but the most incorrigible ghosts actually greatly prefer to the living world - a quiet, peaceful existence free of all the things that can piss off a traumatized human being lacking a physical body. It's often implied to be a scientific equivalent to a ''very'' high quality resting place; as in a ''pharaoh's tomb''. Ghosts have been known to seek the 'Busters out just so they can go in of their own free will. It also happens to be BiggerOnTheInside, to the point it is basically it's own self-contained alternate dimension.
24th Jan '16 1:33:45 AM Miso
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** ''A'' syringe? Venkman says he knocked Dana out with around ''300 ccs'' of Thorazine, which is more than a cup of the stuff and would require SEVERAL syringes. Who the hell carries around around a cup and a half of a powerful sedative and enough syringes to administer it?! Worse yet, that much Thorazine would probably ''kill'' Dana; of course, her surviving a lethal dose of powerful tranquilizer might be a side effect of being possessed, but ''still''!

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** ''A'' syringe? Venkman says he knocked Dana out with around ''300 ccs'' of Thorazine, which is more than a cup of the stuff and would require SEVERAL syringes. Who the hell carries around around a cup and a half of a powerful sedative and enough syringes to administer it?! Worse yet, that much Thorazine would probably ''kill'' Dana; of course, her surviving a lethal dose of powerful tranquilizer might be a side effect of being possessed, but ''still''!




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* Stay-Puft melted into endless rivers of molten marshmallow, not ash, indicating the explosion wasn't hot enough to reduce him to ash (given the Ghostbusters, Dana, and Louis survived it, that probably goes without saying). If Gozer had taken Peter's suggestion of a giant J. Edgar Hoover or some other human, would New York City have been coated in LudicrousGibs instead of just a bunch of s'more filler?
28th Dec '15 8:33:45 PM LBHills
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** Because Ray had already thought of Stay Puft. They were screwed even before Venkman started his spiel.

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** Because Ray had already thought of Stay Puft. They were screwed even before Venkman started his spiel.spiel.
** Maybe Venkman only knew Hoover's name, and had never bothered to look at a picture of the former FBI chief. Come to think of it, a recognizable name with no physical appearance attached to it wouldn't be a bad solution to 'thinking of nothing.'
27th Nov '15 11:11:34 AM nombretomado
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* The ''concept'', once you [[FridgeLogic stop and think it through]]. [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] -- ''plural'' -- exist and actively plot TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The rank-and-file supernatural nasties, down the most benign, harmless minions of said Abominations, are still capable of causing untold destruction and chaos. Ordinary humans who are willing to do insanely [[MoralEventHorizon sick]] [[NietzscheWannabe twisted]] [[OmnicidalManiac shit]] in life can subsequently obtain ridiculous amounts of supernatural power once they die. Periodically, humanity has to face the threat of "Old Testament, real wrath-of-God-type stuff." And who's left to defend the planet from all this? A science nerd, an occult nerd, a uni bludger and a blue-collar guy who just needed a job with a steady paycheck, all armed with MadScience. In a nutshell, the world needs Superman and it's got the cast of ''[[SaturdayNightLive SNL]]''.

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* The ''concept'', once you [[FridgeLogic stop and think it through]]. [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] -- ''plural'' -- exist and actively plot TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The rank-and-file supernatural nasties, down the most benign, harmless minions of said Abominations, are still capable of causing untold destruction and chaos. Ordinary humans who are willing to do insanely [[MoralEventHorizon sick]] [[NietzscheWannabe twisted]] [[OmnicidalManiac shit]] in life can subsequently obtain ridiculous amounts of supernatural power once they die. Periodically, humanity has to face the threat of "Old Testament, real wrath-of-God-type stuff." And who's left to defend the planet from all this? A science nerd, an occult nerd, a uni bludger and a blue-collar guy who just needed a job with a steady paycheck, all armed with MadScience. In a nutshell, the world needs Superman and it's got the cast of ''[[SaturdayNightLive ''[[Series/SaturdayNightLive SNL]]''.
4th Nov '15 10:15:05 PM Headrock
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* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a UsedCarSalesman, but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun.


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* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a UsedCarSalesman, [[HonestJohnsDealership Used Car Salesman]], but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun.

4th Nov '15 10:13:56 PM Headrock
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\n* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a UsedCarSalesman, but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun.

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