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2nd Sep '17 12:17:51 PM Octoya
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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that a medical doctor, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all sat there for several seconds unwilling to help a woman who was choking. Daphne only starts to get up after Martin and Niles pass the buck to her via eye-movement, and Frasier moves **much** quicker when he realizes she was actually choking. It's played for laughs as a joke on how horrible Julia is, but in a real life situation that kind of hesitation could have meant the difference between Julia storming out or leaving in an ambulance.

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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that a medical doctor, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all sat there for several seconds unwilling to help a woman who was choking. Daphne only starts to get up after Martin and Niles pass the buck to her via eye-movement, and Frasier moves **much** ''much'' quicker when he realizes she was actually choking. It's played for laughs as a joke on how horrible Julia is, but in a real life situation that kind of hesitation could have meant the difference between Julia storming out or leaving in an ambulance.
2nd Sep '17 12:16:04 PM Octoya
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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that two medical doctors, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all stood still and did nothing while a woman was choking. Played for laughs, and it's indicated they thought she was making sarcastic choking noises, but if any of them thought it was serious and still didn't move speaks volumes about [[{{WhatYouAreInTheDark}} who they really are]].
** In ''Frasier's'' defence on this one at least, his back was turned because he was distracted by looking for something and by all appearances he genuinely ''wasn't'' fully aware of the situation; as soon as he realises what's happening he immediately comes to her assistance.

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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that two a medical doctors, doctor, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all stood still and did nothing while sat there for several seconds unwilling to help a woman who was choking. Played for laughs, Daphne only starts to get up after Martin and it's indicated they thought Niles pass the buck to her via eye-movement, and Frasier moves **much** quicker when he realizes she was making sarcastic choking noises, actually choking. It's played for laughs as a joke on how horrible Julia is, but if any in a real life situation that kind of them thought it was serious and still didn't move speaks volumes about [[{{WhatYouAreInTheDark}} who they really are]].
** In ''Frasier's'' defence on this one at least, his back was turned because he was distracted by looking for something and by all appearances he genuinely ''wasn't'' fully aware of
hesitation could have meant the situation; as soon as he realises what's happening he immediately comes to her assistance. difference between Julia storming out or leaving in an ambulance.
18th Aug '17 7:45:14 PM Octoya
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* Martin's characterization as a grumpy, bitter, insecure old HasBeen in season 1 looks like a case of CharacterizationMarchesOn when in later seasons he was characterized as terminally cheerful, flippant and deadpan, and unwilling to let anything rattle him. But this later characterization can be explained as being his "original" personality all along his demeanor in season 1 could easily be explained away as temporary depression due to his career-ending injury, on top of being bitter over his recently deceased wife and distant sons.

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* Martin's characterization as a grumpy, bitter, insecure old HasBeen has-been in season 1 looks like a case of CharacterizationMarchesOn when in later seasons he was characterized as terminally cheerful, flippant and deadpan, and unwilling to let anything rattle him. But this later characterization can be explained as being his "original" personality all along his demeanor in season 1 could easily be explained away as temporary depression due to his career-ending injury, on top of being bitter over his recently deceased wife and distant sons.
18th Aug '17 7:44:52 PM Octoya
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* From ''[=Frasier=]'', the names of two of the titular character's coworkers being Roz and Gil [[Theatre/RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead suddenly became funny]].

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* From ''[=Frasier=]'', the The names of two of the titular character's Frasier's coworkers being Roz and Gil [[Theatre/RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead suddenly became funny]].
18th Aug '17 7:41:56 PM Octoya
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* In "Room Full Of Heroes", while imitating Martin (who he's dressed as), Niles goes on and on about how "he" considers his sons "failures and disappointments". Yet he came to the party dressed as him. So despite genuinely believing that his father thinks he's a failure, Niles still considers him his hero. Very akin to an abuse victim still desperate for the love and approval of their abuser.

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* In "Room Full Of Heroes", while imitating Martin (who he's dressed as), Niles goes on and on about how "he" considers his sons "failures and disappointments". Yet he came to the party dressed as him. So despite genuinely believing that his father thinks he's a failure, Niles still considers him his hero. Very akin If he didn't dress up like Martin just to an abuse victim still desperate for the love suck up to him, it says a lot about how Niles sees himself and approval of their abuser.
his own life.
18th Aug '17 7:35:31 PM Octoya
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* In the season 10 finale, Roz hates Frasier's new girlfriend Julia and thinks she's all wrong for him, which causes Frasier and her to get into a big fight. After accusations about trust and loyalty have been hurled back and forth, Roz tells Frasier that if he doesn't trust her judgment and dump Julia, she'll walk out of his life. In response, Frasier loftily stalks over to Julia, puts his arm around her, and glares at Roz. This always bothered this troper. Although Roz ''was'' over the line, Frasier's response seemed rather out of character. Frasier is the man who sustained a close bond with his brother despite having [[ManipulativeBastard Maris]] [[RichBitch Crane]] as a sister-in-law for fifteen years -- he's the very last person in the world who you should ''ever'' try the "I don't like her, so dump her or we're through" line on.

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* In the season 10 finale, Roz hates Frasier's new girlfriend Julia and thinks she's all wrong for him, which causes Frasier and her to get into a big fight. After accusations about trust and loyalty have been hurled back and forth, Roz tells Frasier that if he doesn't trust her judgment and dump Julia, she'll walk out of his life. In response, Frasier loftily stalks over to Julia, puts his arm around her, and glares at Roz. This always bothered this troper. Although Roz ''was'' over the line, Frasier's response seemed seems rather out of character. character, but then again, Frasier is the man who sustained a close bond with his brother despite having [[ManipulativeBastard Maris]] [[RichBitch Crane]] as a sister-in-law for fifteen years -- he's the very last person in the world who you should ''ever'' try the "I don't like her, so dump her or we're through" line on.



* In ''The Two-Hundredth Episode'', the plot is this; Frasier is missing one of his early aircheck tapes. He is apparently obsessed with collecting all of his own tapes (common enough for people working in radio). Daphne admits she damaged the tape accidentally. Frasier announces on the air that if anyone happens to have this missing tape, they should call the station. So a man named Tom calls in, and Frasier and Niles head to his apartment. Turns out that Tom is ''obsessed'' with Frasier, replacing his entire Seattle skyline window with his pictures, having quit his job so he wouldn't miss the show (becoming a doorman instead) and having every single one of Frasier's shows on tape. Frasier tries to subtly break it to him that his life could have much more to it. He doesn't get the message, and Frasier and Niles leave, Tom being ecstatic due to meeting his idol. At home, when Daphne and his dad (I forget his name) ask if he got the tape, Frasier says he decided to let Tom keep the tape, as he has [[TearJerker "seen an example tonight of how an obsession can take over someones life."]] Two FridgeHorror examples jump to mind; the first, Frasier didn't help him. He'll spend the rest of his life, obsessed. The second, the finale revolves around [[spoiler:Frasier completing his last show.]] Hopefully Tom has moved on by then, because otherwise he's sure going to have a rough time.

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* In ''The Two-Hundredth Episode'', the plot is this; Frasier is missing one of his early aircheck tapes. He is apparently obsessed with collecting all of his own tapes (common enough for people working in radio). Daphne admits she damaged the tape accidentally. Frasier announces on the air that if anyone happens to have this missing tape, they should call the station. So a man named Tom calls in, and Frasier and Niles head to his apartment. Turns out that Tom is ''obsessed'' with Frasier, replacing his entire Seattle skyline window with his pictures, having quit his job so he wouldn't miss the show (becoming a doorman instead) and having every single one of Frasier's shows on tape. Frasier tries to subtly break it to him that his life could have much more to it. He doesn't get the message, and Frasier and Niles leave, Tom being ecstatic due to meeting his idol. At home, when Daphne and his dad (I forget his name) Martin ask if he got the tape, Frasier says he decided to let Tom keep the tape, as he has [[TearJerker "seen an example tonight of how an obsession can take over someones life."]] Two FridgeHorror examples jump to mind; the first, Frasier didn't help him. He'll spend the rest of his life, obsessed. The second, the finale revolves around [[spoiler:Frasier completing his last show.]] Hopefully Tom has moved on by then, because otherwise he's sure going to have a rough time.
18th Aug '17 7:32:38 PM Octoya
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* Something I dismissed as CharacterizationMarchesOn was Martin's characterization as a grumpy, bitter, insecure old HasBeen in season 1, whereas he was later characterized as terminally cheerful, flippant and deadpan, and unwilling to let anything rattle him. Later, it occurred to me that this later characterization was probably his "original" personality all along his demeanor in season 1 could easily be explained away as temporary depression due to his career-ending injury, on top of being bitter over his recently deceased wife and distant sons.
* In the season 10 finale, Roz hates Frasier's new girlfriend Julia and thinks she's all wrong for him, which causes Frasier and her to get into a big fight. After accusations about trust and loyalty have been hurled back and forth, Roz tells Frasier that if he doesn't trust her judgment and dump Julia, she'll walk out of his life. In response, Frasier loftily stalks over to Julia, puts his arm around her, and glares at Roz. This always bothered this troper. Although Roz ''was'' over the line, Frasier's response seemed rather out of character. But then it occurred to me that Frasier is the man who sustained a close bond with his brother despite having [[ManipulativeBastard Maris]] [[RichBitch Crane]] as a sister-in-law for fifteen years -- he's the very last person in the world who you should ''ever'' try the "I don't like her, so dump her or we're through" line on.

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* Something I dismissed as CharacterizationMarchesOn was Martin's characterization as a grumpy, bitter, insecure old HasBeen in season 1, whereas 1 looks like a case of CharacterizationMarchesOn when in later seasons he was later characterized as terminally cheerful, flippant and deadpan, and unwilling to let anything rattle him. Later, it occurred to me that But this later characterization was probably can be explained as being his "original" personality all along his demeanor in season 1 could easily be explained away as temporary depression due to his career-ending injury, on top of being bitter over his recently deceased wife and distant sons.
* In the season 10 finale, Roz hates Frasier's new girlfriend Julia and thinks she's all wrong for him, which causes Frasier and her to get into a big fight. After accusations about trust and loyalty have been hurled back and forth, Roz tells Frasier that if he doesn't trust her judgment and dump Julia, she'll walk out of his life. In response, Frasier loftily stalks over to Julia, puts his arm around her, and glares at Roz. This always bothered this troper. Although Roz ''was'' over the line, Frasier's response seemed rather out of character. But then it occurred to me that Frasier is the man who sustained a close bond with his brother despite having [[ManipulativeBastard Maris]] [[RichBitch Crane]] as a sister-in-law for fifteen years -- he's the very last person in the world who you should ''ever'' try the "I don't like her, so dump her or we're through" line on.




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* There's a bit of poetry from the events of the episode "Liar! Liar!": In the episode, Frasier feels guilty over accidentally leading an old bully down a life of crime by, in prep school, blaming him for his and Niles setting off a fire alarm to avoid the presidential fitness test. He decides to help him with his marriage by counseling his wife, and eventually ends up trapped in the man's room while they're about to have sex. How did he get out of the situation? By setting off the fire alarm, which the former bully assumes his wife did. The irony isn't remarked upon in the episode itself, but its very clear on reflection.
25th May '17 7:57:57 AM HumanTorch2
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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that two medical doctors, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all stood still and did nothing while a woman was choking. Played for laughs, and it's indicated they thought she was making sarcastic choking noises, but if any of them thought it was serious and still didn't move speaks volumes about who they really are.

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* No matter what your feelings are about Julia, it is worth noting that two medical doctors, a healthcare worker, and a retired police officer all stood still and did nothing while a woman was choking. Played for laughs, and it's indicated they thought she was making sarcastic choking noises, but if any of them thought it was serious and still didn't move speaks volumes about [[{{WhatYouAreInTheDark}} who they really are.are]].
15th Mar '17 8:16:52 AM DoctorNemesis
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** In ''Frasier's'' defence on this one at least, his back was turned because he was distracted by looking for something and by all appearances he genuinely ''wasn't'' fully aware of the situation; as soon as he realises what's happening he immediately comes to her assistance.
15th Aug '16 7:50:24 PM DrOO7
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* In "Room Full Of Heroes", while imitating Martin (who he's dressed as), Niles goes on and on about how "he" considers his sons "failures and disappointments". Yet he came to the party dressed as him. So despite genuinely believing that his father thinks he's a failure, Niles still considers him his hero. Very akin to an abuse victim still desperate for the love and approval of their abuser.
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