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25th Dec '16 1:02:29 PM Aquillion
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* Consider Final Fantasy 7 from Aerith's perspective. Her boyfriend disappears and is almost certainly dead. Years later, some random stranger cosplaying as him crashes through her ceiling. This guy has patterned his entire life on Zack and is obviously pretending to be him (to the point of impersonating a SOLDIER 1st Class.) Aerith would know immediately that he's a fake - she's been on the run from Shinra for a while, and it's not like there are that many SOLDIER 1st Class out there. So what's the logical conclusion from her perspective? *She suspects Cloud has murdered her boyfriend and stolen his life.* After all, from her perspective Cloud is a violent, mentally unbalanced terrorist wearing her boyfriend's worn, tattered clothes and constantly impersonating him (badly.) The logical assumption is that Cloud was connected to Zack's death. This is why she travels with him. If you do the Golden Saucer date with her, the reason she's there isn't because she feels anything for Cloud, it's because she's trying to (discretely) probe for information on Zack's death. But she can't be too obvious, because for all she knows Cloud is a serial killer, and if he catches on that she's connected to Zack, he'll kill her, too.

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* Consider Final Fantasy 7 from Aerith's perspective. Her boyfriend disappears and is almost certainly dead. Years later, some random stranger cosplaying as him crashes through her ceiling. This guy has patterned his entire life on Zack and is obviously pretending to be him (to the point of impersonating a SOLDIER 1st Class.) Aerith would know immediately that he's a fake - she's been on the run from Shinra for a while, and it's not like there are that many SOLDIER 1st Class out there. So what's the logical conclusion from her perspective? *She ''She suspects Cloud has murdered her boyfriend and stolen his life.* '' After all, from her perspective Cloud is a violent, mentally unbalanced terrorist wearing her boyfriend's worn, tattered clothes and constantly impersonating him (badly.) The logical assumption is that Cloud was connected to Zack's death. This is why she travels with him. If you do the Golden Saucer date with her, the reason she's there isn't because she feels anything for Cloud, it's because she's trying to (discretely) probe for information on Zack's death. But she can't be too obvious, because for all she knows Cloud is a serial killer, and if he catches on that she's connected to Zack, he'll kill her, too.
25th Dec '16 1:01:53 PM Aquillion
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* Consider Final Fantasy 7 from Aerith's perspective. Her boyfriend disappears and is almost certainly dead. Years later, some random stranger cosplaying as him crashes through her ceiling. This guy has patterned his entire life on Zack and is obviously pretending to be him (to the point of impersonating a SOLDIER 1st Class.) Aerith would know immediately that he's a fake - she's been on the run from Shinra for a while, and it's not like there are that many SOLDIER 1st Class out there. So what's the logical conclusion from her perspective? *She suspects Cloud has murdered her boyfriend and stolen his life.* After all, from her perspective Cloud is a violent, mentally unbalanced terrorist wearing her boyfriend's worn, tattered clothes and constantly impersonating him (badly.) The logical assumption is that Cloud was connected to Zack's death. This is why she travels with him. If you do the Golden Saucer date with her, the reason she's there isn't because she feels anything for Cloud, it's because she's trying to (discretely) probe for information on Zack's death. But she can't be too obvious, because for all she knows Cloud is a serial killer, and if he catches on that she's connected to Zack, he'll kill her, too.
6th Nov '16 3:04:30 PM kjelfalconer
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* The identity of the spy was in fact hinted at from the moment they joined. [[spoiler: After all, what materia does Cait Sith join with? Manipulate.]]
23rd Oct '16 8:53:42 AM dlchen145
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* When Shinra opts to drop the Sector 7 plate onto the slums, it seems like overkill to take out an OddlySmallOrganization, and demonstrates just what a ruthless pack of immoral bastards most of the higher-ups are. And then we remember that it happened not long after Cloud presented himself to the president as an ex-SOLDIER. ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' showed that [=SOLDIERs=] are so {{Badass}} that they needed to send a small army in just to deal with one who had gone rogue. As far as Shinra is concerned, AVALANCHE had crossed the GodzillaThreshold by taking in a rogue SOLDIER.

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* When Shinra opts to drop the Sector 7 plate onto the slums, it seems like overkill to take out an OddlySmallOrganization, and demonstrates just what a ruthless pack of immoral bastards most of the higher-ups are. And then we remember that it happened not long after Cloud presented himself to the president as an ex-SOLDIER. ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' showed that [=SOLDIERs=] are so {{Badass}} badass that they needed to send a small army in just to deal with one who had gone rogue. As far as Shinra is concerned, AVALANCHE had crossed the GodzillaThreshold by taking in a rogue SOLDIER.
6th Sep '16 10:10:21 AM SteelEdge
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* This might just be FauxSymbolism, but Cloud's sword is outright stated to be larger than he is. Perhaps it's a metaphor for [[spoiler: the fact that he took up the tough persona of a SOLDIER, but he couldn't live up to it. He's trying to bite off more than he can chew.]]
22nd Aug '16 8:46:49 AM MrDeath
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*** We know exactly when she died. When the whole town is on fire, Cloud goes into his mother's house, then comes out in silent rage and grief. That makes it pretty clear. I'm sure she did have something to say about her kid being blamed, but what's she going to do? She doesn't control the town. And he doesn't say or think about her after he pulls himself together because, what ''would'' he say about her? She's still dead, and her death wasn't really a focal point for his memory break.
22nd Aug '16 7:05:50 AM PurpleAlert
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**** He does, but there's no mention of ''when'' she died. Cloud's Mom only appears in that one scene, she's conspicuously absent from the rest of the game (especially the flashbacks to Cloud's childhood memories with Tifa; shouldn't a mother have something to say about a bunch of adults blaming her son for Tifa's injury?) and almost all of Cloud's memories that can't be verified through either Tifa or Zack are either fake or jumbled. He also doesn't spare her any thought once he's got himself together again, it's not likely that the "mom" in Nibelheim existed the way we see her.
5th Aug '16 12:04:04 AM sinmenon
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* It is even more scary when you go back and look where [[spoiler: Jenova]] was being held. When you examine it the game will show you a message saying that [[spoiler: it was pried open from the '''inside''']]. Along with many lines in the game and the battles when you encounter it is implied that [[spoiler: you have been chasing after Jenova, taking the appearance of Sephiroth. It is said that she is a virus-like organism that infects others, and they have a degree of hive mind]]. Of course that all the sequels and retcons might have something to say about it, but it's still terrifying.
6th Jun '16 3:49:40 PM thekeyofe
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* Cloud being so powerful compared to everyone else in-game seems odd, but then you remember than [[spoiler:even though he never officially became a SOLDIER, he still had mako inside him, making him canonically stronger than his teammates.]]

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* Cloud being so powerful compared to everyone else in-game seems odd, but then you remember than that [[spoiler:even though he never officially became a SOLDIER, he Cloud still had mako inside him, making him canonically stronger than his teammates.teammates. Also, after the Nibelheim incident Hojo experimented on both Cloud and Zack. We don't know what those experiments entailed, and they may have included additional augmentations beyond mako infusions and Jenova cells.]]
6th Jun '16 3:35:52 PM thekeyofe
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**** The eventual death of the world is already assumed. That's the whole point of the Omega WEAPON existing, to start new life elsewhere after the world has died of natural causes (as opposed to being choked to death as Jenova and Sephiroth wanted, or being drained to death as Shinra was doing).
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