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22nd Aug '16 8:46:49 AM MrDeath
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*** We know exactly when she died. When the whole town is on fire, Cloud goes into his mother's house, then comes out in silent rage and grief. That makes it pretty clear. I'm sure she did have something to say about her kid being blamed, but what's she going to do? She doesn't control the town. And he doesn't say or think about her after he pulls himself together because, what ''would'' he say about her? She's still dead, and her death wasn't really a focal point for his memory break.
22nd Aug '16 7:05:50 AM PurpleAlert
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**** He does, but there's no mention of ''when'' she died. Cloud's Mom only appears in that one scene, she's conspicuously absent from the rest of the game (especially the flashbacks to Cloud's childhood memories with Tifa; shouldn't a mother have something to say about a bunch of adults blaming her son for Tifa's injury?) and almost all of Cloud's memories that can't be verified through either Tifa or Zack are either fake or jumbled. He also doesn't spare her any thought once he's got himself together again, it's not likely that the "mom" in Nibelheim existed the way we see her.
5th Aug '16 12:04:04 AM sinmenon
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* It is even more scary when you go back and look where [[spoiler: Jenova]] was being held. When you examine it the game will show you a message saying that [[spoiler: it was pried open from the '''inside''']]. Along with many lines in the game and the battles when you encounter it is implied that [[spoiler: you have been chasing after Jenova, taking the appearance of Sephiroth. It is said that she is a virus-like organism that infects others, and they have a degree of hive mind]]. Of course that all the sequels and retcons might have something to say about it, but it's still terrifying.
6th Jun '16 3:49:40 PM thekeyofe
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* Cloud being so powerful compared to everyone else in-game seems odd, but then you remember than [[spoiler:even though he never officially became a SOLDIER, he still had mako inside him, making him canonically stronger than his teammates.]]

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* Cloud being so powerful compared to everyone else in-game seems odd, but then you remember than that [[spoiler:even though he never officially became a SOLDIER, he Cloud still had mako inside him, making him canonically stronger than his teammates.teammates. Also, after the Nibelheim incident Hojo experimented on both Cloud and Zack. We don't know what those experiments entailed, and they may have included additional augmentations beyond mako infusions and Jenova cells.]]
6th Jun '16 3:35:52 PM thekeyofe
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**** The eventual death of the world is already assumed. That's the whole point of the Omega WEAPON existing, to start new life elsewhere after the world has died of natural causes (as opposed to being choked to death as Jenova and Sephiroth wanted, or being drained to death as Shinra was doing).
3rd Jun '16 4:47:29 PM Dave85
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* Materia is heralded by many as the knowledge of the Ancients, i.e. the Cetra, who are played up as peaceful nomads since the one we know is a kindhearted young woman. However, Aerith was '''not''' raised as a Cetra. She was taken as a baby by Hojo after he killed her father and took her and her mother for use in his experiments. After her mother escaped with her, she was witness to her mother dying of wounds and then taken in by Elmyra. She was raised by a bog-standard human without practically any Cetra cultural influence other than what she could piece together herself. The knowledge of the Ancients? [[FireIceLightning Fire. Ice. Thunder.]] [[UniversalPoison Poison.]] Curses. ''[[SummonMagic Army-smashing summoned monsters.]]'' '''''World-ending spells that exist in opposition to each other.''''' The Cetra were ''not'' a peaceful people. Granted, if the monsters infesting the wilderness in the modern day are any example, the Planet is a DeathWorld par excellence, but if that's not the case (and it's hinted that Shin-Ra's practices are having a mutative effect upon the wildlife), who were the Cetra fighting? Each other? Jenova? Just how long did it take the EldritchAbomination to nearly exterminate the Cetra tribes? Was there time for them to become ProudWarriorRaceGuys, or were they already that way and overcome all the same?
23rd May '16 11:35:16 AM SasquatchX
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* All the talk of Cloud being a "puppet" by Sephiroth [[spoiler: or Jenova, depending on your view]] seems just a kind of cheesy and stereotypical villain talk... [[spoiler: Until you examine Cloud going catatonic. The moment he was made to abandon Zack's persona, he became like a lifeless, unresponsive doll. The puppet metaphor is ''literal'', because before Tifa managed to help him piece back together what little of himself remained, without being controlled by someone else there was ''nothing inside Cloud''. You were essentially playing as an ''empty, soulless shell'' for the entire game to that point.]]
4th May '16 12:21:37 PM dsollen
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** But all Materia is crystallized life stream, so where does the energy for the new Materia come from? Think about it, as materia grows in AP it gains new abilities, explained as accessing the memories of the past, so the increased AP must mean more of the lifestream is somehow being 'stored' in the materia so that more memories are available, when it fills up the excess goes to birthing new materia. How do you gain AP, killing things, the stronger the thing the more AP. The best explination is that your capturing some of the Mako energy that was stored within the things you killed, the energy that would have otherwise returned to the lifestream, and that is the AP that fuels materia growth. Your materia just gained access to Fire 2 because you captured and harnessed (part) of the souls of every sentient being you fought!
*** Worse, if that's true that means that even without Mako reactors running or new Materia being created part of the lifestream is going to be siphoned off into materia any time anyone uses non-mastered materia. With how useful Materia is most people are going to keep using them. That means the world may still be doomed as the lifestream is slowly syphoned away, all the heros did is slow the eventual death of the world.
6th Apr '16 10:29:59 AM wesker56
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* Another spooky thing about Midgar: We all remember the scene when [=Shinra=] blows up the support beam holding up Sector 7, right? And how Reno mentions how its self-destruct is set to go off if anyone messes with it too much... while this was undoubtedly to prevent anyone from messing with it once they'd set it to get ready to blow, this opens a whole other can of worms. Think about it: A team of 8 people could get to each tower's control unit, goof around mindlessly a few times, and ''completely wipe out the entire city.''

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* Another spooky thing about Midgar: We all remember the scene when [=Shinra=] blows up the support beam holding up Sector 7, right? And how Reno Tseng mentions how its self-destruct is set to go off if anyone messes with it too much... while this was undoubtedly to prevent anyone from messing with it once they'd set it to get ready to blow, this opens a whole other can of worms. Think about it: A team of 8 people could get to each tower's control unit, goof around mindlessly a few times, and ''completely wipe out the entire city.''
22nd Dec '15 8:28:41 PM Gingerkitteh
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* Cloud's blood-type is AB, making him an universal recipient. Many Japanese believe blood-type to be an indicator of personality. The table [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture here]] describes the negative traits of Cloud's blood-type as ''Critical, indecisive, forgetful, irresponsible, "split personality"''. The other characters all have blood-type A, B, O, or "Unknown".

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* Cloud's blood-type is AB, making him an a universal recipient. Many Japanese believe blood-type to be an indicator of personality. The table [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture here]] describes the negative traits of Cloud's blood-type as ''Critical, indecisive, forgetful, irresponsible, "split personality"''. The other characters all have blood-type A, B, O, or "Unknown".
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