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12th Nov '16 5:46:51 PM Litzfed81
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* Why the vault security armour from vault 34 has better protection rating than its vault 101 counterpart in fallout 3 makes sense from both gameplay and in lore viewpoints. The gameplay reason is that Vault 101 security armour is at the start of the game and is a low level armour that would be quickly rendered obsolete, while vault 34 security armour is encountered at a much later point of the game and would have to require better stats to be viable. A in lore explanation is that the conditions of Vault 34 and Vault 101 are completely different. In vault 101 the secuirty at most would on a regular have to deal with troublesome youths and radroaches which could be easily be dealt with so they don't need anything heavier than 10mm pistols and the vault armoury was secured on a tight control from the overseer. However vault 34 was filled with easy access guns and explosive weapons, meaning the chance of somebody of suddenly just losing and go on a shooting rampage was extremely high. This results in the vault security requiring to needing a better standard of protection to be able to preform their duties.
7th Nov '16 11:01:57 AM Nylsa
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* If you take a look at Caesar's SPECIAL stats you will find out that he only ranks 4 in both charisma and intelligence. It first seem like FridgeLogic since he is suppose to be extremely charismatic and possess super intellect. But after you find out [[spoiler:that he is suffering from a brain tumor,]] it makes sense that his skills were being affected as a result of it.
* Additionally, he acts extremely rude to the Courier, and trusts them, and only them, to deal with a problem, without any way of preventing the Courier of doing something benefiting House.
* In the deck of cards that come with the collector's edition, [[ColonelBadass Colonel Cassandra Moore]] is the Queen of Hearts. She's a ball-buster. The King of Hearts? President Kimball. Fittingly the Suicide King because of his [[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive obstinate insistence]] of making a frontline visit with a wily [[CombatPragmatist pragmatic]] foe just over the hill]]. The two Jokers in the deck, Benny and the Courier, have those cards for more reasons than just being the Wild Cards. First, in Euchre, the Joker is called the "Benny" card. Second, the Joker cards in Tarot have significant meaning, one Joker meaning the Fool, the other the Magician. The Fool, being the Courier, is the spirit in search of experience (although XP might be a better word for it), and represents [[CrazyAwesome mystical cleverness, not bound by normal reason]], and possessing an ability to tune into the inner workings of the world, and is often represented by a wanderer walking aimless, often one foot hanging over a void, a step away from falling to his death. Meanwhile, the Magician, being Benny, is a man who practices sleight of hand, trickery, and deception, a stage magician with the initial appearance of great power, but later revealed to have no ability of his own, and can also indicate a manipulator, a trickster, and the ego, as well as the pursuit of personal power, and is often associated with the first step in the Fool's Journey, as well as the potential for new adventure.
* While we're talking about the collector deck of cards... We already mentioned Kimball is the King of Hearts. The other kings are Caesar (Clubs), Mr House (Diamonds), and the King (Spades). Does this selection of four [=NPCs=] remind you something? [[spoiler: They are the four characters you need to eat in order to gain the Meat of Champions hidden perk.]]
* Another point on the collector's deck: While three of the Kings make sense, despite his name The King sounds like the odd man out. He is the leader of a gang that you meet relatively early, but plays little part in the grand scheme of the Mohave. So why is he so notable? [[spoiler: He represents the Wild Card ending. He says that the philosophy he learned from the School of Impersonation is that "Every man is a King." The Wild Card ending has you prove his philosophy right as you go from a simple courier to the leader of an independent New Vegas.]]

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* If you take a look at Caesar's SPECIAL stats you will find out that he only ranks 4 in both charisma and intelligence. It first seem like FridgeLogic since he is suppose to be extremely charismatic and possess super intellect. But after you find out [[spoiler:that he is suffering from a brain tumor,]] tumor]], it makes sense that his skills were being affected as a result of it.
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Additionally, he acts extremely rude to the Courier, and trusts them, and only them, to deal with a problem, without any way of preventing the Courier of doing something benefiting House.
* In the deck of cards that come with the collector's edition, [[ColonelBadass Colonel Cassandra Moore]] is the Queen of Hearts. She's a ball-buster. The King of Hearts? President Kimball. Fittingly the Suicide King because of his [[spoiler: [[TooDumbToLive obstinate insistence]] of making a frontline visit with a wily [[CombatPragmatist pragmatic]] foe just over the hill]].
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The two Jokers in the deck, Benny and the Courier, have those cards for more reasons than just being the Wild Cards. First, in Euchre, the Joker is called the "Benny" card. Second, the Joker cards in Tarot have significant meaning, one Joker meaning the Fool, the other the Magician. The Fool, being the Courier, is the spirit in search of experience (although XP might be a better word for it), and represents [[CrazyAwesome mystical cleverness, not bound by normal reason]], and possessing an ability to tune into the inner workings of the world, and is often represented by a wanderer walking aimless, often one foot hanging over a void, a step away from falling to his death. Meanwhile, the Magician, being Benny, is a man who practices sleight of hand, trickery, and deception, a stage magician with the initial appearance of great power, but later revealed to have no ability of his own, and can also indicate a manipulator, a trickster, and the ego, as well as the pursuit of personal power, and is often associated with the first step in the Fool's Journey, as well as the potential for new adventure.
* ** While we're talking about the collector deck of cards... We already mentioned Kimball is the King of Hearts. The other kings are Caesar (Clubs), Mr House (Diamonds), and the King (Spades). Does this selection of four [=NPCs=] remind you something? [[spoiler: They are the four characters you need to eat in order to gain the Meat of Champions hidden perk.]]
* ** Another point on the collector's deck: While three of the Kings make sense, despite his name The King sounds like the odd man out. He is the leader of a gang that you meet relatively early, but plays little part in the grand scheme of the Mohave. So why is he so notable? [[spoiler: He represents the Wild Card ending. He says that the philosophy he learned from the School of Impersonation is that "Every man is a King." The Wild Card ending has you prove his philosophy right as you go from a simple courier to the leader of an independent New Vegas.]]



* How do you make [[BulletTime Turbo]]? By using chems and poison from one of the fastest, most jittery enemies in the game, the [[DemonicSpiders Cazador]]

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* How do you make [[BulletTime Turbo]]? By using chems and poison from one of the fastest, most jittery enemies in the game, the [[DemonicSpiders Cazador]]Cazador]].



* The talking armor in Old World Blues is lonely because as a stealth suit she can't be seen.

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* The talking armor in Old World Blues is lonely because because, as a stealth suit suit, she can't be seen.



* Boone always inexplicably uses melee weapons, even though he's a sniper. There's a semi-serious possibility that he does this so he can run up to the person he's killing and make sure he's hostile, thus preventing another Bitter Springs. He may also be practicing in case any Legionnaire escapes his scope. There's a darker side to this as well, which combines FridgeBrilliance with FridgeHorror: the more you learn about his DarkAndTroubledPast, the clearer it becomes that a combination of grief over [[TearJerker what happened to his wife]] and guilt over [[PoorCommunicationKills what happened at Bitter Springs]] have made Boone at least [[DeathSeeker borderline suicidal]].

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* Boone always inexplicably uses melee weapons, even though he's a sniper. There's a semi-serious possibility that he does this so he can run up to the person he's killing and make sure he's they're hostile, thus preventing another Bitter Springs. He may also be practicing in case any Legionnaire escapes his scope. There's a darker side to this as well, which combines FridgeBrilliance with FridgeHorror: the more you learn about his DarkAndTroubledPast, the clearer it becomes that a combination of grief over [[TearJerker what happened to his wife]] and guilt over [[PoorCommunicationKills what happened at Bitter Springs]] have made Boone at least [[DeathSeeker borderline suicidal]].
23rd Oct '16 3:22:52 PM SuperFeatherYoshi
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* In Dead Money, you can exchange your Sierra Madre chips for pre-war cash. However, the exchange rate seems ridiculous: a bundle of cash for a single chip. That is until you realize that the currency is highly inflated before the war: in Fallout 3, a single copy of newspaper costs 56 dollars!
9th Oct '16 11:26:41 PM WanderingBrowser
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** Just because the numbers exist, and we've known there were over a hundred vaults for a long time, doesn't mean that the experiments run in the "real" Vaults 69 and 68 actually match up with the ones run in the Penny Arcade comic. Heck, even though there was that ShoutOut to the comic's Vault 77 in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', that doesn't necessarily ''prove'' that the Penny Arcade Vaults are real, anymore than the fact that running into the [[Franchise/DoctorWho TARDIS]] in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' or the fact Dogmeat's former owner is dressed like ''Film/MadMax'' "proves" that the two universes are connected. EasterEgg, anyone?



** As for the other and likely more prominent reason, Elvis Presley, being a fervent christian who also dabbled in gospel music, was big on Jesus Christ and thus did not appreciate being given a title that was akin to idolatry.
** Note where The Kings take up residence; an Elvis ''impersonation'' school, filled with all sorts of romanticized paraphernalia. The King didn't do research on "The King", who was an enigma to them, but pre-war society's ''idea'' of "The King", taking up the legacy of the fans.


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** As for the other and likely more prominent reason, Elvis Presley, being a fervent christian Christian who also dabbled in gospel music, was big on Jesus Christ and thus did not appreciate being given a title that was akin to idolatry.
** *** Note where The Kings take up residence; an Elvis ''impersonation'' school, filled with all sorts of romanticized paraphernalia. The King didn't do research on "The King", who was an enigma to them, but pre-war society's ''idea'' of "The King", taking up the legacy of the fans.

fans. So, FridgeLogic becomes FridgeBrilliance; King doesn't even know Elvis' '''name''', why would he know anything like that??
28th Sep '16 5:49:31 PM Sizniche
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**This explains how the Sole Survivor gets more out of blood packs in Fallout 4 as well; the protagonist has lived before the war, and understands the concept of a blood transfusion.
9th Sep '16 7:32:31 PM Steam_Lord
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* There are several hints suggesting that at least a good number of people in the days leading up to the War itself were aware that it was only a matter of time before the end. Whether it's Mr. House's ridiculously accurate predictions (and preparations), Sinclair's hastiness in building the Sierra Madre Villa or the details in Randall Clark's holotapes, the idea that folks knew that doomsday was coming, with most of them likely to die anyway and ''no way to avert it'' would have made Pre-War America essentially as horrifying as Cold War era America, which is terrifying for children and millenials.

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* There are several hints suggesting that at least a good number of people in the days leading up to the War itself were aware that it was only a matter of time before the end. Whether it's Mr. House's ridiculously accurate predictions (and preparations), Sinclair's hastiness in building the Sierra Madre Villa or the details in Randall Clark's holotapes, the idea that folks knew that doomsday was coming, with most of them likely to die anyway and ''no way to avert it'' would have made Pre-War America essentially as horrifying as Cold War era America, which is terrifying for children and millenials. terrifying.
4th Sep '16 8:33:13 PM JAG001
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* Despite being clearly signed as a school for Elvis impersonation, the Kings' headquarters doesn't play any Elvis music, nor does any radio station in the game. Because there are no surviving records of Elvis' music; the last recordings of the man's voice broke down years ago. If there were any, Mr. New Vegas would be playing them, and/or you would be asked to retrieve them for the King.
4th Sep '16 2:05:06 PM Vyerron
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** Casinos also provide an easy access to booze and prostitutes. Thus, a lot of chances of getting alcohol intoxication or an STD.
3rd Sep '16 11:03:57 AM Discar
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* At first, it seems like FridgeLogic that wearing Brotherhood of Steel power armor will get you shot on sight by NCR, while no one in the Wastes bats an eyelid at you storming around in a suit of Enclave power armor. Then you realize that, not only have the Enclave been gone for a couple generations, but also the number of Wastelanders who've ever actually seen an Enclave soldier ''and lived to tell the tale'' is probably extremely small.
** On similar note, the non-faction T-51b Power Armor does not get you shot by NCR, despite being the same armor the Brotherhood uses. Brotherhood Paladins keep their equipment well-maintained according to Brotherhood standards, so their armors are always silver and well-kept. The non-faction T-51b is rusted and weathered with age. You don't look Brotherhood wearing that armor. You look like some schmuck that got lucky and found a bitchin' suit of old PoweredArmor in the cave somewhere. And you very likely did; all three non-faction T-51bs in non-DLC ''Fallout: New Vegas'' are found underground.

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* Power armor factions:
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At first, it seems like FridgeLogic that wearing Brotherhood of Steel power armor will get you shot on sight by NCR, while no one in the Wastes bats an eyelid at you storming around in a suit of Enclave power armor. Then you realize that, not only have the Enclave been gone for a couple generations, but also the number of Wastelanders who've ever actually seen an Enclave soldier ''and lived to tell the tale'' is probably extremely small.
** On a similar note, the non-faction T-51b Power Armor does not get you shot by NCR, despite being the same armor the Brotherhood uses. Brotherhood Paladins keep their equipment well-maintained according to Brotherhood standards, so their armors are always silver and well-kept. The non-faction T-51b is rusted and weathered with age. You don't look Brotherhood wearing that armor. You look like some schmuck that got lucky and found a bitchin' suit of old PoweredArmor in the cave somewhere. And you very likely did; all three non-faction T-51bs in non-DLC ''Fallout: New Vegas'' are found underground.



** The abundance of homosexual men makes a lot of sense when one considers that the Legion has a strong presence in the Mojave -- like their inspirational ancestors, the Legion are vehement misogynists who consider women fit only for producing new generations. However, the Romans (and the Greeks before them), for much the same misogynistic reason, considered male homosexuality to be purer and more natural than heterosexuality. Thusly, the Legion probably has a very strong policy of understanding & acceptance for male homosexuals, if not encouraging men to sleep with each other when not "doing their duty" to produce future soldiers. And between the Legion's considering it normal, and their perfect willingness to murder or brutalize people who are stupid enough to be homophobic around Legionaries, well, that's one way to influence culture.
*** In fact, a male Courier with Confirmed Bachelor who hints at their sexuality when Cass shoots down any potential flirting actually elicits the response of the Courier having a "Legion point of view", which obliquely confirms that the Legion is full of homosexual men.
*** That logical train of thought applies in-universe, as well. The only people who mention homosexuality in the Legion are outsiders like Cass or Veronica. But if the player has a chat with Westside prostitute, Jimmy, he'll explain that homosexuality is punished by death in the Legion. And he would actually ''know,'' since he's a former slave.

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** The abundance of homosexual men makes a lot of sense when one considers that the Legion has a strong presence in the Mojave -- like their inspirational ancestors, the Legion are vehement misogynists who consider women fit only for producing new generations. However, the Romans (and the Greeks before them), for much the same misogynistic reason, considered male homosexuality to be purer and more natural than heterosexuality. Thusly, the Legion probably has a very strong policy of understanding & acceptance for male homosexuals, if not encouraging men to sleep with each other when not "doing their duty" to produce future soldiers. And between the Legion's considering it normal, and their perfect willingness to murder or brutalize people who are stupid enough to be homophobic around Legionaries, well, that's one way to influence culture.
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culture. In fact, a male Courier with Confirmed Bachelor who hints at their sexuality when Cass shoots down any potential flirting actually elicits the response of the Courier having a "Legion point of view", which obliquely confirms that the Legion is full of homosexual men.
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men. That logical train of thought applies in-universe, as well. The only people who mention homosexuality in the Legion are outsiders like Cass or Veronica. But if the player has a chat with Westside prostitute, Jimmy, he'll explain that homosexuality is punished by death in the Legion. And he would actually ''know,'' since he's a former slave.



*** Note where The Kings take up residence; an Elvis ''impersonation'' school, filled with all sorts of romanticized paraphernalia. The King didn't do research on "The King", who was an enigma to them, but pre-war society's ''idea'' of "The King", taking up the legacy of the fans.


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*** ** Note where The Kings take up residence; an Elvis ''impersonation'' school, filled with all sorts of romanticized paraphernalia. The King didn't do research on "The King", who was an enigma to them, but pre-war society's ''idea'' of "The King", taking up the legacy of the fans.

3rd Sep '16 9:34:12 AM Dephlogisticate
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\n*** Note where The Kings take up residence; an Elvis ''impersonation'' school, filled with all sorts of romanticized paraphernalia. The King didn't do research on "The King", who was an enigma to them, but pre-war society's ''idea'' of "The King", taking up the legacy of the fans.

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