History Fridge / Elysium

11th Aug '15 3:53:43 PM Kalaong
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* If you play ''Pathfinder'' or ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.

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* If you play ''Pathfinder'' or ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] Delacourt]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.
27th Feb '15 11:56:20 AM SeptimusHeap
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* If you play ''Pathfinder'' or DungeonsAndDragons, you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.

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* If you play ''Pathfinder'' or DungeonsAndDragons, ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.
5th Dec '14 11:37:12 AM Shining_One
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* If you play PathFinder or DungeonsAndDragons, you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.

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* If you play PathFinder ''Pathfinder'' or DungeonsAndDragons, you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.
5th Dec '14 11:36:08 AM Shining_One
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*If you play PathFinder or DungeonsAndDragons, you might be savvy enough to note that each of the three villains falls into one of the [[CharacterAlignment three evil alignments]]: [[KnightTemplar Delacour]] is LawfulEvil, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Carlyle]] is NeutralEvil, and last but not least, [[PsychoForHire Kruger]] is ChaoticEvil.
23rd May '14 3:54:14 PM Euodiachloris
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* The song "Jan Pierewiet" is a traditional, pirouetting dance tune (that's the "Pierewiet" bit). The words "Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil; Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil" can be seen as directions, for all they're mostly nonsense words pretending to be a name in Afrikaans: so, "step, pirouette; step, pirouette; step, pirouette -- stand still... (repeat)". What would rebooting do to Elysium for a few seconds? Switch almost everything off... so it technically stands still for a few beats, before actively starting to turn again. At the point of singing it, Kruger knew this.

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* The song "Jan Pierewiet" ''Jan Pierewiet'' is a traditional, pirouetting dance tune (that's the "Pierewiet" bit). The words "Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil; Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil" can be seen as directions, for all they're mostly nonsense words pretending to be a name in Afrikaans: so, "step, pirouette; step, pirouette; step, pirouette -- stand still... (repeat)". What would rebooting do to Elysium for a few seconds? minutes? Switch almost everything off... so it technically stands still for a few beats, before actively starting to turn again.again (there are other, unsung verses that have "draai om" in them instead of "staan stil"... or "turn around", in English). At the point of singing it, Kruger knew this.
19th Feb '14 10:33:12 AM Gecko3
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* Carlyle only sending one droid out to face off against the attackers initially. Obviously he'd have to put up some kind of resistance, and once the attackers destroyed the first one, they may assume that he was free for the taking. So while they have a false sense of security and come out from cover, his second droid could then ambush them. And it seemed to work well, as Max and the others have a little more trouble fighting off the second droid, and had it of held out long enough, Kruger and his men would have arrived, killed them, and saved Carlyle.
8th Jan '14 6:27:03 PM MabuseTheGambler
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%% FridgeLogic goes in "Headscratchers," not here.

!!FridgeHorror:
* The film's EsotericHappyEnding, in which [[spoiler: the entire population of Earth is granted citizenship and access to medical pods, which have the potential to multiply someone's lifespan several times over. It's stated at the beginning that the Earth is already grossly overpopulated. Suddenly expanding everyone's lifespan is going to cause an ''immense'' amount of problems]].
* There's certainly a great potential for violence as [[spoiler: billions of new citizens are going to come clamoring for access to all that amazing technology on Elysium.]]

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%% FridgeLogic goes in "Headscratchers," not here.

!!FridgeHorror:
* The film's EsotericHappyEnding, in which [[spoiler: the entire population of Earth is granted citizenship and access to medical pods, which have the potential to multiply someone's lifespan several times over. It's stated at the beginning that the Earth is already grossly overpopulated. Suddenly expanding everyone's lifespan is going to cause an ''immense'' amount of problems]].
* There's certainly a great potential for violence as [[spoiler: billions of new citizens are going to come clamoring for access to all that amazing technology on Elysium.]]
here.
22nd Dec '13 12:27:48 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* The film's EsotericHappyEnding in which [[spoiler: the entire population of Earth is granted citizenship and access to medical pods, which have the potential to multiply someone's lifespan several times over. It's stated at the beginning that the Earth is already grossly overpopulated. Suddenly expanding everyone's lifespan is going to cause an ''immense'' amount of problems]].

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* The film's EsotericHappyEnding EsotericHappyEnding, in which [[spoiler: the entire population of Earth is granted citizenship and access to medical pods, which have the potential to multiply someone's lifespan several times over. It's stated at the beginning that the Earth is already grossly overpopulated. Suddenly expanding everyone's lifespan is going to cause an ''immense'' amount of problems]].
22nd Dec '13 12:26:43 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* At the film's ending, [[spoiler: Max sacrifices himself to make everyone on earth a citizen of Elysium, and thus, now able to use the station's medical machines to cure their diseases and sicknesses. A happy ending for all, right? Actually, possibly not. In fact, Max might have made things ''even worse.'' How so? Considering that the med-pods can heal pretty much anything, and regenerate cells, then that means anyone who uses it can essentially become immortal. Thus:]]
** [[spoiler:The overpopulated Earth now has upwards of 8 billion people who can be cured of anything, and have incredibly long lifespans, which means that the death rate probably isn't going to go down anytime soon. Coupled with the likely high birthrate (due to the horrific conditions, there's probably a very high infant mortality rate, which means people have more babies to compensate), people possibly becoming immortal due to full-body rejuvenation, and potentially increased population growth, conditions are likely to become even more hellish. Earth, already an overpopulated, ruined hellhole, will have it's already stretched resources stretched even thinner to feed an increased population. Jobs will become scarcer as more and more workers flood the market (and will likely be given even fewer hours each, and bare-bones pay), and aside from awesome health, the quality of life for everyone will suffer]].
*** That's basically what happened when Weasel released information on nanotechnological immortality in ''[[Manga/BattleAngelAlita Last Order]]''. They've managed, though the human cost was enormous. OTOH, the overpopulation problem is kind of self-correcting, when we take in consideration the ''artificially'' screwed economy that exists largely to fuel Elysians' egoes.
** [[spoiler: While Max may have saved countless lives, in the long run, he's likely only created a bigger disaster: Too many individuals + Too few resources = Extinction]].
*** [[spoiler: To be fair though, it's highly unlikely there's enough med-pods for everyone on Earth; even if every single mobile one was sent to Earth to be flown to different areas, and everyone was granted unlimited access to Elysium to use the ones stationed there, the sheer number of people to med-pods ratio means that many, if not most, people will still die of their injuries or diseases before getting treated. This also doesn't count into the political and economic factors surrounding the pods. Money still exists in the world of Elysium, and it's possible that corporations might try to gain control of the pods and command outrageous prices to use them, so sadly, it's a possibility that, after the initial surge in healings, most people wouldn't be able to afford them after all, which means Max's sacrifice might not mean all that much in the long run]].
*** The people of Earth [[spoiler: already have their foot in the door. The world government still works on democratic principles, and now that everyone can vote, not just the people on Elysium, they can exert political pressure to prevent a return to the old system]].
*** Of course, [[spoiler: 'corporations commanding such ridiculous fees to use them that nobody can use them' is cutting off their nose to spite their face. All you'd need to do is make free access to the health pods part of the company employee health plan and you'd no longer need to dragoon labor for your sweatshops; people would be fighting each other for places in line to get a job. Also, you could reduce the # of allowable sick days per year to 'zero', never pay worker's comp again, never have to worry about a disability settlement for job-related injuries... seriously, the plot of this movie reads like it was written by someone who thinks that corporations hate making money. 'The corps would DRM this thing on up the yinyang and try to make sure nobody ever used a pod unless they collected a user fee' makes sense; 'the corps would deliberately price themselves out of the market entirely is not'. Even digital content providers, perhaps the purest examples of selfish corporate greed easily available to point at, still actually try to sell mp3s and streaming video and etc. to anybody who will pay them for it, even if they sell them all crapped up with whatever DRM or proprietary players they can dream up. In the real world, greedy businessmen take money from anybody who will give it to them; if something is too expensive to easily buy, that's because its too expensive to easily make.]]
**** That's because the film isn't really about money, profit margins or bottom line. It is all about the good old-fashoned dominance. Elysian bigwigs may spout the learned corporate drivel, but in the end they just want to show everyone who's the boss, to cite Orwell, they want to feel their "boot stamping on the human face... forever", and to get that feeling they are prepared to throw all rationality and all efficiency out the window. Just note [[spoiler: there's exactly ''one'' orbital habitat Elysium itself. With the technology available to the humanity, such habitats might number in thousands, not counting domed cities on the Moon and the other planets, so the ovepopulation issue isn't really a problem if anyone wouldever want to solve it. Additionally, so much population is usually a bonus for the economy, if one sets the task to stimulate the internal consumption, as it servesboth as a market and a workforce.]] It's just that the Elysian elite doesn't ''want'' a reasonable economy, because they simply ''love'' flaunting their superiority before their planetside serfs.
*** [[spoiler: And if overpopulation concerns are what's stopping them from spreading the technology, there's a pragmatic fix: program all the Med-Pods, whether on Earth or Elysium, to harmlessly and permanently sterilize any adult who uses it. Make forfeiting reproduction the socially-accepted cost of using such technology to live longer, and allow everyone the informed decision to either make do with alternative medical treatments or voluntarily drop out of the gene pool.]]
** As another result of the ending,[[spoiler: -everyone- is now an Elysian citizen. Security droids, the only police force there really is, cannot arrest an Elysian citizen. The already-sky-high crime rate on Earth is only going to go up because of this...]]
*** This is largely a nonissue. [[spoiler: The droid officers cannot arrest an Elysian citizen simply because they aren't programmed to do so: they are mainly the immigration control and are meant to oppress a downtrodden underclass.]] But the only thing needed to make them an actual police is a slight change in their program.
** It's probably because [[spoiler: Spider wasn't doing anything wrong, he was just standing there.]] It's hard to arrest someone for doing nothing at all.
*** It isn't if you're a human. And a bastard.
* What's to stop [[spoiler: the vengeful Earth humans going on a bloodthirsty rampage once they reach Elysium? Or alternatively the understandably terrified Elysiumites tearing the newcomers to pieces as soon as they start leave their shuttles (the Elysiumites would have numerical superiority at least for the first wave.) The Elysium leadership has lost all power and there isn't an Earth leadership for the incoming so either way it seems there is going to be a lot of bloodshed by frightened, desperate people.]]
** [[spoiler:Presumably the security droids still have emergency protocols to prevent violent acts against Elysian citizens. Plus, Spider would probably have enough influence to convince the Earth humans not to attack.]]
* Why wouldn't Elysium citizens [[spoiler:immediately restore the system to its previous condition? even assuming they didn't have a backup, they could just strip of citizenship every person currently on the planet unless they are registered as owning property on Elysium]]. Simple, effective and totally ruins the ending but ehy, it's a CrapsackWorld.

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* At the The film's ending, EsotericHappyEnding in which [[spoiler: Max sacrifices himself to make everyone on earth a citizen of Elysium, and thus, now able to use the station's medical machines to cure their diseases and sicknesses. A happy ending for all, right? Actually, possibly not. In fact, Max might have made things ''even worse.'' How so? Considering that the med-pods can heal pretty much anything, and regenerate cells, then that means anyone who uses it can essentially become immortal. Thus:]]
** [[spoiler:The overpopulated Earth now has upwards of 8 billion people who can be cured of anything, and have incredibly long lifespans, which means that the death rate probably isn't going to go down anytime soon. Coupled with the likely high birthrate (due to the horrific conditions, there's probably a very high infant mortality rate, which means people have more babies to compensate), people possibly becoming immortal due to full-body rejuvenation, and potentially increased
entire population growth, conditions are likely of Earth is granted citizenship and access to become even more hellish. Earth, medical pods, which have the potential to multiply someone's lifespan several times over. It's stated at the beginning that the Earth is already grossly overpopulated. Suddenly expanding everyone's lifespan is going to cause an overpopulated, ruined hellhole, will have it's already stretched resources stretched even thinner to feed an increased population. Jobs will become scarcer as more and more workers flood the market (and will likely be given even fewer hours each, and bare-bones pay), and aside from awesome health, the quality ''immense'' amount of life for everyone will suffer]].
*** That's basically what happened when Weasel released information on nanotechnological immortality in ''[[Manga/BattleAngelAlita Last Order]]''. They've managed, though the human cost was enormous. OTOH, the overpopulation problem is kind of self-correcting, when we take in consideration the ''artificially'' screwed economy that exists largely to fuel Elysians' egoes.
problems]].
** * There's certainly a great potential for violence as [[spoiler: While Max may have saved countless lives, in the long run, he's likely only created a bigger disaster: Too many individuals + Too few resources = Extinction]].
*** [[spoiler: To be fair though, it's highly unlikely there's enough med-pods
billions of new citizens are going to come clamoring for everyone on Earth; even if every single mobile one was sent to Earth to be flown to different areas, and everyone was granted unlimited access to Elysium to use the ones stationed there, the sheer number of people to med-pods ratio means that many, if not most, people will still die of their injuries or diseases before getting treated. This also doesn't count into the political and economic factors surrounding the pods. Money still exists in the world of Elysium, and it's possible that corporations might try to gain control of the pods and command outrageous prices to use them, so sadly, it's a possibility that, after the initial surge in healings, most people wouldn't be able to afford them after all, which means Max's sacrifice might not mean all that much in the long run]].
*** The people of Earth [[spoiler: already have their foot in the door. The world government still works on democratic principles, and now that everyone can vote, not just the people on Elysium, they can exert political pressure to prevent a return to the old system]].
*** Of course, [[spoiler: 'corporations commanding such ridiculous fees to use them that nobody can use them' is cutting off their nose to spite their face. All you'd need to do is make free access to the health pods part of the company employee health plan and you'd no longer need to dragoon labor for your sweatshops; people would be fighting each other for places in line to get a job. Also, you could reduce the # of allowable sick days per year to 'zero', never pay worker's comp again, never have to worry about a disability settlement for job-related injuries... seriously, the plot of this movie reads like it was written by someone who thinks that corporations hate making money. 'The corps would DRM this thing on up the yinyang and try to make sure nobody ever used a pod unless they collected a user fee' makes sense; 'the corps would deliberately price themselves out of the market entirely is not'. Even digital content providers, perhaps the purest examples of selfish corporate greed easily available to point at, still actually try to sell mp3s and streaming video and etc. to anybody who will pay them for it, even if they sell them all crapped up with whatever DRM or proprietary players they can dream up. In the real world, greedy businessmen take money from anybody who will give it to them; if something is too expensive to easily buy, that's because its too expensive to easily make.]]
**** That's because the film isn't really about money, profit margins or bottom line. It is all about the good old-fashoned dominance. Elysian bigwigs may spout the learned corporate drivel, but in the end they just want to show everyone who's the boss, to cite Orwell, they want to feel their "boot stamping on the human face... forever", and to get that feeling they are prepared to throw all rationality and all efficiency out the window. Just note [[spoiler: there's exactly ''one'' orbital habitat Elysium itself. With the
amazing technology available to the humanity, such habitats might number in thousands, not counting domed cities on the Moon and the other planets, so the ovepopulation issue isn't really a problem if anyone wouldever want to solve it. Additionally, so much population is usually a bonus for the economy, if one sets the task to stimulate the internal consumption, as it servesboth as a market and a workforce.]] It's just that the Elysian elite doesn't ''want'' a reasonable economy, because they simply ''love'' flaunting their superiority before their planetside serfs.
*** [[spoiler: And if overpopulation concerns are what's stopping them from spreading the technology, there's a pragmatic fix: program all the Med-Pods, whether on Earth or Elysium, to harmlessly and permanently sterilize any adult who uses it. Make forfeiting reproduction the socially-accepted cost of using such technology to live longer, and allow everyone the informed decision to either make do with alternative medical treatments or voluntarily drop out of the gene pool.]]
** As another result of the ending,[[spoiler: -everyone- is now an Elysian citizen. Security droids, the only police force there really is, cannot arrest an Elysian citizen. The already-sky-high crime rate on Earth is only going to go up because of this...]]
*** This is largely a nonissue. [[spoiler: The droid officers cannot arrest an Elysian citizen simply because they aren't programmed to do so: they are mainly the immigration control and are meant to oppress a downtrodden underclass.]] But the only thing needed to make them an actual police is a slight change in their program.
** It's probably because [[spoiler: Spider wasn't doing anything wrong, he was just standing there.]] It's hard to arrest someone for doing nothing at all.
*** It isn't if you're a human. And a bastard.
* What's to stop [[spoiler: the vengeful Earth humans going on a bloodthirsty rampage once they reach Elysium? Or alternatively the understandably terrified Elysiumites tearing the newcomers to pieces as soon as they start leave their shuttles (the Elysiumites would have numerical superiority at least for the first wave.) The Elysium leadership has lost all power and there isn't an Earth leadership for the incoming so either way it seems there is going to be a lot of bloodshed by frightened, desperate people.]]
** [[spoiler:Presumably the security droids still have emergency protocols to prevent violent acts against Elysian citizens. Plus, Spider would probably have enough influence to convince the Earth humans not to attack.]]
* Why wouldn't Elysium citizens [[spoiler:immediately restore the system to its previous condition? even assuming they didn't have a backup, they could just strip of citizenship every person currently on the planet unless they are registered as owning property on Elysium]]. Simple, effective and totally ruins the ending but ehy, it's a CrapsackWorld.
Elysium.]]
22nd Dec '13 12:21:23 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* The song ''Jan Pierewiet''? Is actually a traditional, pirouetting dance tune (that's the "Pierewiet" bit). The words "Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil; Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil" can be seen as directions, for all they're mostly nonsense words pretending to be a name in Afrikaans: so, "step, pirouette; step, pirouette; step, pirouette -- stand still... (repeat)". What would rebooting do to ''Elysium'' for a few seconds? Switch almost everything off... so it technically stands still for a few beats, before actively starting to turn again. At the point of singing it, Kruger knew this...
* ...combining with FridgeHorror is the rest of the song, though. It's being sung as a kind of mawkish, love-bird duet between a husband and a wife about the day after the night before, but in a way that's kid-friendly and designed to [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar get under the radar]]. Which... is really, really creepy considering [[spoiler: what he's basically been threatening the mother of the girl he's singing it to with]]. You're welcome. And, no: you're not getting a translation of all the verses. There are too many of them... and, they are really, really mawkish to the point of {{Glurge}} -- you don't need it living alongside the NightmareFuel in your head. And, does anybody have any BrainBleach for what the EarWorm is doing in the context of ''Kruger'' singing it? Please?

!!FridgeLogic:
* So... why wasn't Elysium selling the medical pods to people on Earth? They can't be stolen because of how heavy they are, the people of Earth clearly still have ways to produce electricity in the future, and it appears that [[spoiler: it's very easy to load a bunch of pods on multiple ships.]] These things literally have the power to regrow a human's leg and reconstruct a human's face in under a minute, why didn't anyone see the profit that could have been made with this? And it wouldn't have caused an IdiotPlot because they could have explained that [[spoiler: Max and Matlida]] couldn't afford to buy the service of one on Earth because the people on Elysium made the price too high and only one of their droids could activate it for non-citizens.
** It's not about money.
*** The presence of such a medical technology on earth, however, would still benefit them anyway because of the increased production from their earthbound "employees."
*** Again, it's not about money.
**** But the movie makes a point about how it '''is''' about money. Those with it don't want to be near those without it unless it can make them more of it. Elsyium residents were never cast as a traditional aristocracy based on blood or other intangible elements.
***** There's more to being poor, in the eyes of the archetypal rich fuck, than not having enough money. How much money you have is a reflection of your worth as a person. The people of Earth don't have money, and are therefore disgusting subhumans who don't deserve healthcare.
**** Even leaving money out of it, the main concern of the Elysium government is preventing immigration, and the sole reason we see people trying to get to Elsyium is to use the Med-Pods (obviously, they wouldn't be allowed to stay). It seems much simpler to distribute a few dozen Med-Pods around earth. Obviously that wouldn't be enough to heal everyone, but it would mean that sick and desperate people would be fighting ''each other'' to get to the Medbays, instead of crashing Elysium and breaking into houses.
**** As it's been said below, the movie really isn't about money it is basically a neo-Marxist (neo- because orthodox Marxism assumes the rationality of both sides, which is lacking here) parable about class struggle and class envy. If you view it from this side it's pretty obvious that while people of Elysium fight and fear the immigration attempts, subconsciously they see them as a sign that they are ''better'' than the underclass on Earth, that they are envied and looked up. So, despite any indications to the contrary, they don't really want to change that feel-good situation.
** This is mainly because the central conceit of the film is class envy, the writers don't want to you point out that realistically at least [[CutLexLuthorACheck one person, somewhere, would see the profit potential in bringing medbays to earth and selling tickets]], and that would be more important to them than keeping the technology exclusively for the rich.
** Two points- one, that the pods offer effective immortality- the Earth is overpopulated as it is. Which is also why the idea of keeping the worker population healthy isn't that high on the list of priorities- there is undoubtedly a waiting list of people available for every job. Two, it appears nothing is being sold by the megacorps of Elysium to the population of Earth- we see no shops, no advertising. That's because the masses have no real spending money- they are all just getting by. There would be no profit to be made from them.
*** Then how did they become rich if not from people on Earth?
* Delacourt doesn't know if the ''President'' has any children? She doesn't know basic personal info about the most prominent politcal figure on the habitat? ''And'' he's her commander-in-chief and she's Sec Def. They'd have to work together ''every day''. If nothing else, you'd think a woman with presidential ambition would have studied up on the competition!
** She's probably just asking it to make a point. I'm sure she knows, but she's trying to illustrate that he isn't able to see the issue as well as she can.
*** This. It was pretty obvious to me that it was a rhetorical question.
* How come Max can [[spoiler: take down the security bots]] so easily? 'Cause he [[spoiler: builds them himself.]]
* Elysium has magic med-pods that can cure anything--including aging, as seen when [[spoiler:Kruger's face is blown off and rebuilt]]. So why do any citizens grow old? Population control? You'd think they'd prefer to just not reproduce and live forever.
** It is implied several times that Elysium residents are functionally immortal. I can't recall seeing any "elderly" Elysium citizens and those who were simply "mature" may have simply preferred their appearance, especially if it came with no physical downsides.


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* The song ''Jan Pierewiet''? Is actually "Jan Pierewiet" is a traditional, pirouetting dance tune (that's the "Pierewiet" bit). The words "Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil; Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet, Jan Pierewiet staan stil" can be seen as directions, for all they're mostly nonsense words pretending to be a name in Afrikaans: so, "step, pirouette; step, pirouette; step, pirouette -- stand still... (repeat)". What would rebooting do to ''Elysium'' Elysium for a few seconds? Switch almost everything off... so it technically stands still for a few beats, before actively starting to turn again. At the point of singing it, Kruger knew this...
* ...combining with FridgeHorror is the rest of the song, though. It's being sung as a kind of mawkish, love-bird duet between a husband and a wife about the day after the night before, but
this.

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in a way that's kid-friendly and designed to [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar get under the radar]]. Which... is really, really creepy considering [[spoiler: what he's basically been threatening the mother of the girl he's singing it to with]]. You're welcome. And, no: you're "Headscratchers," not getting a translation of all the verses. There are too many of them... and, they are really, really mawkish to the point of {{Glurge}} -- you don't need it living alongside the NightmareFuel in your head. And, does anybody have any BrainBleach for what the EarWorm is doing in the context of ''Kruger'' singing it? Please?

!!FridgeLogic:
* So... why wasn't Elysium selling the medical pods to people on Earth? They can't be stolen because of how heavy they are, the people of Earth clearly still have ways to produce electricity in the future, and it appears that [[spoiler: it's very easy to load a bunch of pods on multiple ships.]] These things literally have the power to regrow a human's leg and reconstruct a human's face in under a minute, why didn't anyone see the profit that could have been made with this? And it wouldn't have caused an IdiotPlot because they could have explained that [[spoiler: Max and Matlida]] couldn't afford to buy the service of one on Earth because the people on Elysium made the price too high and only one of their droids could activate it for non-citizens.
** It's not about money.
*** The presence of such a medical technology on earth, however, would still benefit them anyway because of the increased production from their earthbound "employees."
*** Again, it's not about money.
**** But the movie makes a point about how it '''is''' about money. Those with it don't want to be near those without it unless it can make them more of it. Elsyium residents were never cast as a traditional aristocracy based on blood or other intangible elements.
***** There's more to being poor, in the eyes of the archetypal rich fuck, than not having enough money. How much money you have is a reflection of your worth as a person. The people of Earth don't have money, and are therefore disgusting subhumans who don't deserve healthcare.
**** Even leaving money out of it, the main concern of the Elysium government is preventing immigration, and the sole reason we see people trying to get to Elsyium is to use the Med-Pods (obviously, they wouldn't be allowed to stay). It seems much simpler to distribute a few dozen Med-Pods around earth. Obviously that wouldn't be enough to heal everyone, but it would mean that sick and desperate people would be fighting ''each other'' to get to the Medbays, instead of crashing Elysium and breaking into houses.
**** As it's been said below, the movie really isn't about money it is basically a neo-Marxist (neo- because orthodox Marxism assumes the rationality of both sides, which is lacking here) parable about class struggle and class envy. If you view it from this side it's pretty obvious that while people of Elysium fight and fear the immigration attempts, subconsciously they see them as a sign that they are ''better'' than the underclass on Earth, that they are envied and looked up. So, despite any indications to the contrary, they don't really want to change that feel-good situation.
** This is mainly because the central conceit of the film is class envy, the writers don't want to you point out that realistically at least [[CutLexLuthorACheck one person, somewhere, would see the profit potential in bringing medbays to earth and selling tickets]], and that would be more important to them than keeping the technology exclusively for the rich.
** Two points- one, that the pods offer effective immortality- the Earth is overpopulated as it is. Which is also why the idea of keeping the worker population healthy isn't that high on the list of priorities- there is undoubtedly a waiting list of people available for every job. Two, it appears nothing is being sold by the megacorps of Elysium to the population of Earth- we see no shops, no advertising. That's because the masses have no real spending money- they are all just getting by. There would be no profit to be made from them.
*** Then how did they become rich if not from people on Earth?
* Delacourt doesn't know if the ''President'' has any children? She doesn't know basic personal info about the most prominent politcal figure on the habitat? ''And'' he's her commander-in-chief and she's Sec Def. They'd have to work together ''every day''. If nothing else, you'd think a woman with presidential ambition would have studied up on the competition!
** She's probably just asking it to make a point. I'm sure she knows, but she's trying to illustrate that he isn't able to see the issue as well as she can.
*** This. It was pretty obvious to me that it was a rhetorical question.
* How come Max can [[spoiler: take down the security bots]] so easily? 'Cause he [[spoiler: builds them himself.]]
* Elysium has magic med-pods that can cure anything--including aging, as seen when [[spoiler:Kruger's face is blown off and rebuilt]]. So why do any citizens grow old? Population control? You'd think they'd prefer to just not reproduce and live forever.
** It is implied several times that Elysium residents are functionally immortal. I can't recall seeing any "elderly" Elysium citizens and those who were simply "mature" may have simply preferred their appearance, especially if it came with no physical downsides.

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