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26th Feb '17 4:47:33 PM nombretomado
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* Literature/{{Dune}} I totally just realised that Spice is Oil. It's the only thing that enables interstellar travel, you get it from a desert, the only thing stopping me from realising this was that if I drank a gallon of oil I wouldn't see visions of the future (well I might but they probably wouldn't be true; then I'd die)

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* Literature/{{Dune}} I totally just realised that Spice is Oil. It's the only thing that enables interstellar travel, you get it from a desert, the only thing stopping me from realising this was that if I drank a gallon of oil I wouldn't see visions of the future (well I might but they probably wouldn't be true; then I'd die)



** Read Dune, then go watch ''LawrenceOfArabia'', or read about the real Major Lawrence. Lawrence goes into the desert where the war between great civilized world powers is being waged, and harnesses the incredible overlooked strength of the native badasses to swing the outcome, and is (at least in the movie) revered and almost worshipped by his fighters.

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** Read Dune, then go watch ''LawrenceOfArabia'', ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'', or read about the real Major Lawrence. Lawrence goes into the desert where the war between great civilized world powers is being waged, and harnesses the incredible overlooked strength of the native badasses to swing the outcome, and is (at least in the movie) revered and almost worshipped by his fighters.
24th Feb '17 2:47:46 PM Nopperabo
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* The ''gom jabbar'' ordeal wasn't intended to weed out candidates who couldn't master their animal impulses, as Reverend Mother Mohiam suggests. It was meant to weed out the ''disobedient''. Bene Gesserit leaders expect absolute obedience from initiates, even in matters as intimate as relationships, marriage, sex, and motherhood. Thus, they use the ''gom jabbar'' test to eliminate candidates who disobey and select candidates who obey a command under extreme suffering.
5th Jan '17 11:19:32 AM SeptimusHeap
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** If subtlety wasn't Frank Herbert's strong point, [[FreudWasRight one wonders what he was trying to say about a group of indigenous savages riding gigantic phalluses and swallowing up entire armies just by opening their mouths. Or the fact that when a small phallus is immersed in water, it excretes 'the water of life' and then ''dies.'']]

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** If subtlety wasn't Frank Herbert's strong point, [[FreudWasRight one wonders what he was trying to say about a group of indigenous savages riding gigantic phalluses and swallowing up entire armies just by opening their mouths. Or the fact that when a small phallus is immersed in water, it excretes 'the water of life' and then ''dies.'']]''
30th Oct '16 11:25:24 AM airforceteacher
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** Herbert specifically calls this out in the author's note, actually.
26th Oct '16 6:26:04 AM wistan
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** In addition, all those chapter quotes are from books written by Irulan. Which as you're reading, makes you think that Irulan survived the story and became a great expert on Mau'dib/Paul - maybe even indicating that Paul never succeeded in his aim to topple the Emperor. Then at the end of the book when Chani is upset that Paul must marry Irulan for the sake of politics, Jessica consoles her by saying that she hears Irulan has aspirations to be a writer - a good thing as she will need something to fill her time, given that Paul will never, ever be a real husband to her. And suddenly you realise that what those chapter quotes really prove is that Jessica was right, and Irulan lived a meaningless life as a trophy bride for Paul.
23rd Jul '16 4:39:42 PM MikeK
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* The first ''Dune'' book puts various quotations from in-universe documents as epigraphs for the chapters, which often cryptically foreshadow things that happen later in the book. Thus, the quotes sort of work the same way Paul's visions of the future do: The reader knows something in advance about later plot points, but often doesn't have the context to work out their significance yet.

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* The first ''Dune'' book puts various quotations from in-universe documents as epigraphs for the chapters, which often cryptically foreshadow things that happen later in the book. Thus, the quotes sort of work the same way Paul's visions of the future do: The do, and the reader knows is given a small taste of experiencing the novel as he experiences his life: You know something in advance about later plot points, but often doesn't don't have the context to work out their significance yet.
23rd Jul '16 4:25:59 PM MikeK
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* The first ''Dune'' book puts various quotations from in-universe documents as epigraphs for the chapters, which often cryptically foreshadow things that happen later in the book. Thus, the quotes sort of work the same way Paul's visions of the future do: The reader knows something in advance about later plot points, but often doesn't have the context to work out their significance yet.
26th Jun '16 9:49:31 PM LDSTroper1
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*** Exposure to the Spice turn your eyes blue. The bluer Paul's eyes are, the more GoingNative had he become. Creator/PeterOToole, who played Lawrence in the movie [[https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/peter-otoole-lawrence-of-arabia.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1 had the bluest eyes I have ever seen.]]

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*** Exposure to the Spice turn your eyes blue. The bluer Paul's eyes are, grew, the more GoingNative he had he become. Creator/PeterOToole, who played Lawrence in the movie [[https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/peter-otoole-lawrence-of-arabia.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1 had the bluest eyes I have ever seen.]]
13th Jun '16 2:23:40 PM ObsessiveLurker
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*** Also, T. E. Lawrence was born out of wedlock (and in a time period, when it was considered a big deal). Paul is the son of Leto's
*** Exposure to the Spice turn your eyes blue. The bluer Pauls eues are, the more GoingNative had he become. Creator/PeterOToole, who played Lawrence in the movie [[https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/peter-otoole-lawrence-of-arabia.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1 had the bluest eyes I have ever seen.]]

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*** Also, T. E. Lawrence was born out of wedlock (and in a time period, when it was considered a big deal). Paul is the son of Leto's
Leto's relationship with his concubine Jessica.
*** Exposure to the Spice turn your eyes blue. The bluer Pauls eues Paul's eyes are, the more GoingNative had he become. Creator/PeterOToole, who played Lawrence in the movie [[https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/peter-otoole-lawrence-of-arabia.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1 had the bluest eyes I have ever seen.]]
18th Mar '16 2:08:51 PM Mareon
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*** Also, T. E. Lawrence was born out of wedlock (and in a time period, when it was considered a big deal). Paul is the son of Leto's concubine.

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*** Also, T. E. Lawrence was born out of wedlock (and in a time period, when it was considered a big deal). Paul is the son of Leto's concubine.Leto's
*** Exposure to the Spice turn your eyes blue. The bluer Pauls eues are, the more GoingNative had he become. Creator/PeterOToole, who played Lawrence in the movie [[https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/peter-otoole-lawrence-of-arabia.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1 had the bluest eyes I have ever seen.]]
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