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18th Dec '15 11:52:59 AM Harem-author
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* Ariel's reaction to [[spoiler:finding out Mel is her mother]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=7849 at first looks]] like just another case of naivety or refusing to believe it, but considering that she's a shapeshifter it's not that far fetched, especially since she's never actually seen [[spoiler:Mel and Quain]] standing next to each other.

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* Ariel's reaction to [[spoiler:finding out Mel is her mother]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=7849 at first looks]] like just another case of naivety or refusing to believe it, but considering that she's a shapeshifter it's not that far fetched, especially since she's never actually seen [[spoiler:Mel and Quain]] standing next to each other.other, but she ''did'' see Mel shapeshift [[spoiler: right before throwing Syphille down the stairs.]]
23rd Aug '15 3:38:29 AM Agares
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* [[spoiler:Snadhya having Kalki torn apart by summons does come off as a showing of how much of a monster she really is.]] But think about Snadhya's ideology. Snadhya has been consistent in opposing the clan system and wishing to burn it to ashes for a new order to rise. [[spoiler: Word of God confirmed that Kalki was never Snadhya's heir to any of her holdings besides possibly Orthorbbae, nor was she the heir to the Nidraa'chal. Kalki had repeatedly shown herself to embody the negative habits of Vals, especially when one considers her insolence. She acted as a girl who knew she would get special treatment no matter how horrific or foolish she behaved. By having her only daughter torn apart, Snadhya in her bloody way demonstrated that she's committed to shifting society away from the hereditary-based clans.]]

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* [[spoiler:Snadhya having Kalki torn apart by summons does come off as a showing of how much of a monster she really is.]] But think about Snadhya's ideology. Snadhya has been consistent in opposing the clan system and wishing to burn it to ashes for a new order to rise. [[spoiler: Word of God confirmed that Kalki was never Snadhya's heir to any of her holdings besides possibly Orthorbbae, nor was she the heir to the Nidraa'chal. Kalki had repeatedly shown herself to embody the negative habits of Vals, especially when one considers her insolence. She acted as a girl who knew she would get special treatment no matter how horrific or foolish she behaved. By having her only daughter torn apart, Snadhya in her bloody way demonstrated that she's committed to shifting society away from the hereditary-based clans.hereditary focused clan system with its Vals.]]
23rd Aug '15 3:36:32 AM Agares
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* [[spoiler:Snadhya having Kalki torn apart by summons does come off as a showing of how much of a monster she really is.]] But think about Snadhya's ideology. Snadhya has been consistent in opposing the clan system and wishing to burn it to ashes for a new order to rise. [[spoiler: Word of God confirmed that Kalki was never Snadhya's heir to any of her holdings besides possibly Orthorbbae, nor was she the heir to the Nidraa'chal. Kalki had repeatedly shown herself to embody the negative habits of Vals, especially when one considers her insolence. She acted as a girl who knew she would get special treatment no matter how horrific or foolish she behaved. By having her only daughter torn apart, Snadhya in her bloody way demonstrated that she's committed to shifting society away from the hereditary-based clans.]]
21st Feb '15 9:11:21 AM Katsuhagi
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** Post chapter 46 it also takes on a somewhat sadder implication, since if that was actually [[spoiler:Mel's]] dress Kalki might've worn it to feel some connection to her. Also notice her hair is down, not unlike how [[spoiler:Snadhya'rune]] usually styles it. She probably ''was'' actually playing dressup and the fact it doesn't fit even sadder in light of what happened later.
31st Oct '14 1:03:34 PM Katsuhagi
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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone who's heavily tainted and slowly dying like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't have the the pain to warn them to stop whatever's damaging them and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.

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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone who's heavily tainted and slowly dying like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be sounds like an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't have the the pain to warn response telling them to stop whatever's damaging them their bodies and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.
31st Oct '14 1:02:56 PM Katsuhagi
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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't have the the pain to warn them to stop whatever's damaging them and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.

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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone who's heavily tainted and slowly dying like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't have the the pain to warn them to stop whatever's damaging them and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.
31st Oct '14 1:01:13 PM Katsuhagi
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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't know when to stop and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.

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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't know when have the the pain to warn them to stop whatever's damaging them and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.
31st Oct '14 1:00:14 PM Katsuhagi
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* One of the admins [[http://forums.drowtales.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18459&start=15#p819174 clarified]] that "merged" tainted like Kiel, Snadhya'rune and Kalki have a normal pain response as opposed to the FeelNoPain effect someone like Naal'suul or Rann'dirk experiences. At first this might seem like odd since not feeling pain might be an advantage in a fight, but if you look at real people who have conditions like CIPA you realize that it's actually a huge ''dis''advantage when it comes to long term survival, since real life people with the condition tend to overtax their bodies since they don't know when to stop and tend to die from complications from this sooner rather than later. Since Snadhya'rune wants those she "chooses" to live as long as possible and make up her new empire she wouldn't intentionally introduce anything that might lessen their life expectancy.
27th Oct '14 10:36:22 PM Randomfan11
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* The fact that Quain'tana apparently never considered having another heir through Laelle'aell, who unlike Mel [[EmptyShell probably could not resist]] has some pretty disturbing implications. The most benign is that Laelle was already barren prior to her "accident" (supported by WordOfGod having stated that she had two sons and a stillborn daughter prior) while the more horrifying ones suggest that either Quain didn't want to do that to her, suggesting major ParentalFavoritism (which is already canon) or that whatever happened to Laelle and/or what Sil'lice did in her attempt to "cure" her was ''so'' awful that it means she now ''can't''. Add to that the theory that Laelle may have been deliberately tainted by someone, possibly in the Sharen, with the specific aim of rendering her barren after what happened to Quain to ''ensure'' the bloodline would die out or that the only one capable of producing an heir was Mel and you have some horrifying implications.

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* The fact that Quain'tana apparently never considered having another heir through Laelle'aell, who unlike Mel [[EmptyShell probably could not resist]] has some pretty disturbing implications. The most benign is that Laelle was already barren prior to her "accident" (supported by WordOfGod having stated that she had two sons and a stillborn daughter prior) while the more horrifying ones suggest that either Quain didn't want to do that to her, suggesting major ParentalFavoritism (which is already canon) or that whatever happened to Laelle and/or what Sil'lice did in her attempt to "cure" her was ''so'' awful that it means she now ''can't''. Add to that the theory that Laelle may have been deliberately tainted by someone, possibly in the Sharen, with the specific aim of rendering her barren after what happened to Quain to ''ensure'' the bloodline would die out or that the only one capable of producing an heir was Mel and you have some horrifying implications.implications.
* In Chapter 5, before kiling [[AssholeVictim Mir'kiin Vel'Vloz'ress]] with a mace club on orders from Quain'tana, a few pages back [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=4503 Ariel's first weapon of choice was shown to be a sword]], as she was intending to grab one from the weapon barracks nearby, and expresses reluctance when she accepts the mace from Quain'tana. Now in RealLife, swords make much cleaner kills, but mace clubs deal LOTS of blunt force trauma and ensures a slower and more painful death. Even though Quain'tana's motives were obvious, her reasons for giving Ariel that mace clearly shows that Quain'tana wanted to show her how brutal the world can be, as well as shape her into a powerful and ruthless warrior...by exposing Ariel to violence firsthand in making her brutally kill Mir'kiin.
24th Jul '14 5:49:35 PM Katsuhagi
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* Snadhya'rune [[spoiler:deliberately placing faulty seeds in her own clan]] becomes even more disturbing when she later reveals a way to supposedly remove the negative aspects of tainting. [[spoiler:She's been preparing her PoisonAndCureGambit for a very long time, right under her sisters' noses. This means she was already plotting against them even when they first betrayed their mother.]]

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* Snadhya'rune [[spoiler:deliberately placing faulty seeds in her own clan]] becomes even more disturbing when she later reveals a way to supposedly remove the negative aspects of tainting. [[spoiler:She's been preparing her PoisonAndCureGambit for a very long time, right under her sisters' noses. This means she was already plotting against them even when they first betrayed their mother.]]]]
* The fact that Quain'tana apparently never considered having another heir through Laelle'aell, who unlike Mel [[EmptyShell probably could not resist]] has some pretty disturbing implications. The most benign is that Laelle was already barren prior to her "accident" (supported by WordOfGod having stated that she had two sons and a stillborn daughter prior) while the more horrifying ones suggest that either Quain didn't want to do that to her, suggesting major ParentalFavoritism (which is already canon) or that whatever happened to Laelle and/or what Sil'lice did in her attempt to "cure" her was ''so'' awful that it means she now ''can't''. Add to that the theory that Laelle may have been deliberately tainted by someone, possibly in the Sharen, with the specific aim of rendering her barren after what happened to Quain to ''ensure'' the bloodline would die out or that the only one capable of producing an heir was Mel and you have some horrifying implications.
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