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22nd Jan '17 5:13:26 AM EDP
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* Muten Roshi's rarely used grappling skills are a hint to his ability as a master: pretty much all fighters use some form of Kenpō and are striking-focused, so they find themselves out of their depht when confronted with grappling moves, allowing to him to counter otherwise-superior opponents, as shown by him casually manhandling ''Tenshinhan'' when he came too close in their fight.
17th Jan '17 8:33:48 PM NickFalcon
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*** This would ''also'' explain Goku's desperation to get Gohan to finish Cell later in the series, as he's already made the mistake of wanting an enemy to suffer, only to have that CruelMercy come back to bite him.
5th Jan '17 9:58:33 AM EDP
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* Goku expresses disgust when Yajirobe kills and ''eats'' Cymbal. Yet, Vegeta and Nappa are seen eating enemies they've just killed. Amazingly as it sounds, by Saiyan standards Goku is a ''PickyEater''!
30th Dec '16 6:27:34 AM EDP
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* When Shenron resurrects Bora his eyes don't just flash for a moment but continue shining until after Bora has climbed out of his grave (we get to see his eyes as Bora is still inside and they're still shining, and stop as soon as he's out), while in any other resurrection shown his eyes flashed just for a moment. There's a difference between this and the other resurrections: with everyone else Shenron was either recreating their bodies or teleporting an otherwordly body to Earth, while Bora resurrected in his own old body while after it had been already buried-[[BenevolentGenie after bringing back Bora he kept him alive and gave him the energy to climb out even if he had no oxygen in his lungs (Bora even takes a few deep breaths as soon as he's out)]].
12th Dec '16 8:17:55 AM Doug86
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* In early ''DragonBallZ'', Bulma and Roshi ask Baba if she can see the outcome of the fight against the Saiyans. Specifically, they ask whether the earth is intact one year from now. There was no apparant reason for her not to see the outcome, except for not spoiling the fight, of course. Then this troper realized that, if Roshi and Bulma asked her about this only a month or so before the fight, then the reason she couldn't see the a year ahead into the future anymore was because of Cell travelling to the past before that point. Remember that Cell arrived a year before Trunks, and the Freeza saga lasted barely over a month, with only a years time between then and Trunks arriving. Once time travel becomes involved, Baba can't see the future anymore! Must have hurt her business.
* In ''DragonBallZ'' a friend of mine pointed out that Goku starts the series wearing an emblem on his outfit, then about midway through the series he stops wearing it. Neither me or my friend could figure out why he suddenly stopped wearing it, figuring that maybe the animators just got tired of it. My friend then remarked that it could be symbolic. He started the show as a student of Roshi and King Kai. Then after he became a Super Saiyan, he stopped wearing the symbols because he's now the master.--Sketchpad

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* In early ''DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Bulma and Roshi ask Baba if she can see the outcome of the fight against the Saiyans. Specifically, they ask whether the earth is intact one year from now. There was no apparant reason for her not to see the outcome, except for not spoiling the fight, of course. Then this troper realized that, if Roshi and Bulma asked her about this only a month or so before the fight, then the reason she couldn't see the a year ahead into the future anymore was because of Cell travelling to the past before that point. Remember that Cell arrived a year before Trunks, and the Freeza saga lasted barely over a month, with only a years time between then and Trunks arriving. Once time travel becomes involved, Baba can't see the future anymore! Must have hurt her business.
* In ''DragonBallZ'' ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' a friend of mine pointed out that Goku starts the series wearing an emblem on his outfit, then about midway through the series he stops wearing it. Neither me or my friend could figure out why he suddenly stopped wearing it, figuring that maybe the animators just got tired of it. My friend then remarked that it could be symbolic. He started the show as a student of Roshi and King Kai. Then after he became a Super Saiyan, he stopped wearing the symbols because he's now the master.--Sketchpad
8th Dec '16 4:51:53 AM Twoeyesshort
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** Better still, it might have been both. Being beaten by a "lowly Saiyan" would be the kind of push that might knock Frieza off his high horse and change him significantly, and would only be a FateWorseThanDeath if he didn't undergo any CharacterDevelopment. If he did eventually redeem himself, his defeat at Goku's hands (and the subsequent energy dosage to make sure he lived) would undoubtedly be the start of that paradigm shift.
6th Nov '16 12:16:27 PM DannWoolf
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* Dr. Gero's ability to create killer robots, augmented humans, and bio-android creatures capable of dwarfing a baseline Super Saiyan and pre-''Resurrection ‘F’'' Freeza, at the time thought to be the most powerful beings in the universe, using only basic Earth technology, seems to be preposterous at first. However, it's become a building block to {{foreshadow|ing}} two facts critical to understanding future developments in the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise. First, the power scale in the universe is exponentially leagues beyond what even the Saiyans and Freeza had achieved at the time. Second, the vast technological potential of Dragon World Earth's natural elements, which Bulma and her father already showed with the Dragon Radar, the capsules, and chronologically later on the Time Machine [[spoiler:(which future media confirms is a violation of even ''divine natural law'')]], can even be used to harness some of this same grand power, making the InsignificantLittleBluePlanet far more important than it would appear. [[spoiler:Goku and Vegeta are able to overcome Gero's creations, become strong enough to defeat Kai-killing universal threat Majin Buu, and become {{Physical God}}s capable of giving Beerus the God of Destruction a good fight and even defeating Freeza by attrition when he finally trains and reaches that same level of power. [[labelnote:For reference,]]Beerus and Buu were the two creatures that pre-training Freeza was told by his father to never mess with.[[/labelnote]] Bulma is able to look at a force field that a god-attendant used her powers to create capable of containing the reach of many ultra-powerful fighters including said Physical Gods, and then do a pretty good (albeit imperfect) job of imitating that herself using Earth technology.]]

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* Dr. Gero's ability to create killer robots, augmented humans, and bio-android creatures capable of dwarfing a baseline Super Saiyan and pre-''Resurrection ‘F’'' Freeza, at the time thought to be the most powerful beings in the universe, using only basic Earth technology, seems to be preposterous at first. However, it's become a building block to {{foreshadow|ing}} two facts critical to understanding future developments in the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise. First, the power scale in the universe is exponentially leagues beyond what even the Saiyans and Freeza had achieved at the time. Second, the vast technological potential of Dragon World Earth's natural elements, which Bulma and her father already showed with the Dragon Radar, the capsules, and chronologically later on the Time Machine [[spoiler:(which future media confirms is a violation of even ''divine natural law'')]], can even be used to harness some of this same grand power, making the InsignificantLittleBluePlanet far more important than it would appear. [[spoiler:Goku and Vegeta are able to overcome Gero's creations, become strong enough to defeat Kai-killing universal threat Majin Buu, and become {{Physical God}}s capable of giving Beerus the God of Destruction a good fight and even defeating Freeza by attrition when he finally trains and reaches that same level of power. [[labelnote:For reference,]]Beerus and Buu were the two creatures that pre-training Freeza was told by his father to never mess with.[[/labelnote]] Bulma is able to look at a force field that a god-attendant used her powers to create capable of containing the reach of many ultra-powerful fighters including said Physical Gods, and then do a pretty good (albeit imperfect) job of imitating that herself using Earth technology.]]
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28th Oct '16 10:36:19 AM SomeoneElse17
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** [[spoiler:And now this may have been broken. Via ''Dragon Ball Super'' we now have a "Black Goku" character who dresses in clothes the color of his name and terrorized the world of Future Trunks' timeline years after Trunks finally eradicated the Android threat, necessitating yet another mission back into our main timeline. However, there are several hints that he's actually even less of a straightforward "Goku as a villain" character than Turles is. He's referred to only as Black in official story material despite clearly having Goku's face, hinting that "Black Goku" is only a promotional teaser, not part of the character's actual identity. He calls Trunks "Saiyan" as if he himself isn't one and wears green Potara-like earrings much like [[VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse Demon God Demigra]]. He seems to be able to actively manipulate smoke clouds in ways no one else has been seen doing to this point in the series, and his eyes glow a bright menacing red[[note]]in ''Dragon Ball'', red glowing eyes are usually reserved for one of four uses; intentionally-vague "flashback" scenes, Shenron or a counterpart granting a wish, or as an indicator of demonic activity and/or brainwashing[[/note]] when he's covered under smoke. Indeed, he may not even be a Saiyan at all.]]

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** [[spoiler:And now this may have been broken. Via Even Goku Black, the black-clad evil double of Goku seen in the Future Trunks saga of ''Dragon Ball Super'' we now have a "Black Goku" character who dresses in clothes the color of his name and terrorized the world of Future Trunks' timeline years after Trunks finally eradicated the Android threat, necessitating yet another mission back Super'', doesn't quite fall into our main timeline. However, there are several hints that he's actually even less of a the straightforward "Goku as a villain" character than Turles is. He's referred to only as Black in official story material despite clearly having Goku's face, hinting that "Black Goku" is only a promotional teaser, not part of the character's actual identity. stock trope. He calls Trunks "Saiyan" as if he himself isn't one and wears a green Potara-like earrings much like [[VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse Demon God Demigra]].earring as well as possesses a Ring of Time. He seems to be able to actively manipulate smoke clouds in ways no one else has been seen doing to this point in the series, and his eyes glow a bright menacing red[[note]]in ''Dragon Ball'', red glowing eyes are usually reserved for one of four uses; intentionally-vague "flashback" scenes, Shenron or a counterpart granting a wish, or as an indicator of demonic activity and/or brainwashing[[/note]] when he's covered under smoke. Indeed, he may not even be a Saiyan at all.]] He does away with the smoke tactic after his face is shown on-screen, but is still vastly different from Goku due to his Kai artifacts, no-nonsense murderous snobbishness, and an AxCrazy belief in his own OmniscientMoralityLicense to declare that HumansAreTheRealMonsters similar to that of a rogue Supreme Kai apprentice named Zamasu in Universe 10. [[spoiler:Then it turns out that he (A) is tag team partners with the version of Zamasu from Trunks' future, and (B) is an alternate version of present Zamasu himself who successfully kills his master to become a Kai, wishes on the Super Dragon Balls to ''steal Goku's body'', and ''kills Goku and his family in cold blood before recruiting his future self. He's not so much "the anti-Goku" as opposed to "a SatanicArchetype who successfully pulled a permanent Ginyu."]]]]
16th Oct '16 5:02:00 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Or (and this is both FridgeBrilliance and FridgeHorror depending on your POV) this is just a natural consequence of being fully aware that DeathIsCheap. There are two sets of Dragonballs that are easily obtainable and have resurrected almost everyone he knows, the Senzu Bean and Dende can heal anything barring death or serious disease like the heart virus, and he is fully aware that the afterlife exists and that Videl will probably be going to Heaven. FriendToAllLivingThings he may be, but that doesn't stop him from becoming jaded to something that hasn't mattered since arguably the end of the original Dragonball series.
15th Oct '16 5:17:47 PM DoctorTItanX
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* This is a rather small moment, but when Goku teleported to the Lookout to get a senzu bean for Videl after her disastrous fight with Spopovitch, he ended up delayed in a task that should have taken him seconds, due to the fact that he stopped to eat - not because he couldn't have eaten at the tournament, but because ''the food at the Lookout was better''. Granted, Videl's life was not in danger, and the whole thing was treated as comedy, but that doesn't change the fact that Goku prioritized stuffing his face over ending the suffering of a teenage girl who also happened to be his son's girlfriend. Given that Goku was always held up as the perfect compassionate hero and a FriendToAllLivingThings, this scene comes across as positively chilling when one stops to think about it.
* This one concerns the character from ''Manga/DoctorSlump''. We all remember the episode where Goku wound up in Penguin Village, right? So, we could assume that both ''Dr. Slump'' and ''Dragon Ball'' shared the same universe, right? Now, remember Super Buu's Genocide Attack? Since that attack tracks down every human on Earth, that means almost every one in Penguin Village(save for Arale and a couple others) are killed off. And to twist the knife even further, Kid Buu later destroys Earth so every character from ''Dr. Slump'' are now dead. Granted, Goku wished everybody back but could Shenron bring robots like Arale and Obotchaman back to life?
** No, no they could'nt've. As Arale and Obatchaman aren't technically living beings. Remember when everyone killed by the androids and Cell were revived? Android 16 wasn't brought back because he technically wasn't a living being. The reason Arale and Obatchaman WOULD be brought back though is because Porunga not only brought back Earth, he restored it EXACTLY the way it was on the day of the World Martial Arts Tournament, this includes fixing buildings and MACHINERY! So Arale and Obatchaman as well as every other robot were the first beings brought back after Kid Buu destroyed Earth, which brings about some more minor fridge horror: after that wish Dende still thought Nameks Dragon Balls COULDN'T bring back everyone on Earth which could've lead to a RobotUprising Utopian Society.
** Not exactly, since the robots would only be in control for a few months. If they couldn't revive everybody with one wish, then they would have used their second wish to revive Gohan and their third to bring him to the Planet of the Kais. Dende is still alive, and with the Earth restored, so were the dragonballs, albeit, still needing recharge time, and Gohan could beat Kid Buu, especially with help available. After 130 days, they would use the Namekian balls again to revive Vegeta, Krillin, and Trunks (the first two were revived by Shenron once before, and it would be best not to take the chance that reviving the time-traveling Trunks used up this Trunks' one revival). Then, once the Earth's dragonballs have recharged, revive everyone killed by Babidi or Majin Buu. This wouldn't help the ones who were killed by Vegeta, Cell or King Piccolo, but it would revive most of the population. Tien then reminds them that they forgot about Chaotzu, so Goku and Tien go to New Namek one last time revive Chaotzu and also Master Roshi.

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* This is a rather small moment, but when Goku teleported to the Lookout to get a senzu bean Senzu Bean for Videl after her disastrous fight with Spopovitch, he ended up delayed in a task that should have taken him seconds, due to the fact that he stopped to eat - not because he couldn't have eaten at the tournament, but because ''the food at the Lookout was better''. Granted, Videl's life was not in danger, and the whole thing was treated as comedy, but that doesn't change the fact that Goku prioritized stuffing his face over ending the suffering of a teenage girl who also happened to be his son's girlfriend. Given that Goku was always held up as the perfect compassionate hero and a FriendToAllLivingThings, this scene comes across as positively chilling when one stops to think about it.
* This one concerns the character from ''Manga/DoctorSlump''. We all remember the episode where Goku wound up in Penguin Village, right? So, we could assume that both ''Dr. Slump'' and ''Dragon Ball'' shared the same universe, right? Now, remember Super Buu's Genocide Attack? Since that attack tracks down every human on Earth, that means almost every one in Penguin Village(save Village (save for Arale and a couple others) are killed off. And to twist the knife even further, Kid Buu later destroys Earth so every character from ''Dr. Slump'' are now dead. Granted, Goku wished everybody back back, but could Shenron bring robots like Arale and Obotchaman back to life?
** No, no they could'nt've.couldn't have. As Arale and Obatchaman aren't technically living beings. Remember when everyone killed by the androids and Cell were revived? Android 16 wasn't brought back because he technically wasn't a living being. The reason Arale and Obatchaman WOULD be brought back though is because Porunga not only brought back Earth, he restored it EXACTLY the way it was on the day of the World Martial Arts Tournament, this includes fixing buildings and MACHINERY! So Arale and Obatchaman as well as every other robot were the first beings brought back after Kid Buu destroyed Earth, which brings about some more minor fridge horror: after that wish wish, Dende still thought Nameks Dragon Balls COULDN'T bring back everyone on Earth Earth, which could've lead to a RobotUprising Utopian Society.
** Not exactly, since the robots would only be in control for a few months. If they couldn't revive everybody with one wish, then they would have used their second wish to revive Gohan and their third to bring him to the Planet of the Kais. Dende is still alive, and with the Earth restored, so were the dragonballs, Dragon Balls, albeit, still needing recharge time, and Gohan could beat Kid Buu, especially with help available. After 130 days, they would use the Namekian balls again to revive Vegeta, Krillin, and Trunks (the first two were revived by Shenron once before, and it would be best not to take the chance that reviving the time-traveling Trunks used up this Trunks' one revival). Then, once the Earth's dragonballs Dragon Balls have recharged, revive everyone killed by Babidi or Majin Buu. This wouldn't help the ones who were killed by Vegeta, Cell or King Piccolo, but it would revive most of the population. Tien then reminds them that they forgot about Chaotzu, so Goku and Tien go to New Namek one last time revive Chaotzu and also Master Roshi.



** Adding to this, it's fully possible that Goku could have used the Super Kaioken ability on Namek should push have come to shove, doubling his power at least, at which point Frieza could never hope to keep up. In other words, Frieza never stood a chance from the start, unless his hypothesis was right that Goku couldn't breathe in space— a hypothesis that in and of itself faces scrutiny. Considering now that Goku's power level could have shot up to 300,000,000 for moments, and it's possible he could survive the planet's explosion in some way, this troper feels that Goku really was overcome by animosity towards Frieza and only prolonged his suffering just to physically and psychologically torture him. That's the brutal nature of a recently-procured Super Saiyan transformation!

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** Adding to this, it's fully possible that Goku could have used the Super Kaioken ability on Namek should push have come to shove, doubling his power at least, at which point Frieza could never hope to keep up. In other words, Frieza never stood a chance from the start, unless his hypothesis was right that Goku couldn't breathe in space— space — a hypothesis that in and of itself faces scrutiny. Considering now that Goku's power level could have shot up to 300,000,000 for moments, and it's possible he could survive the planet's explosion in some way, this troper feels that Goku really was overcome by animosity towards Frieza and only prolonged his suffering just to physically and psychologically torture him. That's the brutal nature of a recently-procured Super Saiyan transformation!



* During the filler fight between Buu and Vegetto before the latter goes Super Saiyan. Buu creates a giant energy sphere in an attempt to destroy the Earth but before tossing it. He states that every time he has destroyed a planet, he was taken a piece of that planet's energy and the energy sphere he has made to kill Vegetto is the collective energy of all the planets he has destroyed. If the filler is to be considered canon, then Buu's rampage across the universe would make him truly invincible and considering that he can distort reality, would make him a god capable of killing all reality.

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* During the filler fight between Buu and Vegetto before the latter goes Super Saiyan. Buu creates a giant energy sphere in an attempt to destroy the Earth but before tossing it. He it, he states that every time he has destroyed a planet, he was taken a piece of that planet's energy and the energy sphere he has made to kill Vegetto is the collective energy of all the planets he has destroyed. If the filler is to be considered canon, then Buu's rampage across the universe would make him truly invincible and considering that he can distort reality, would make him a god capable of killing all reality.



* Given what we now know about the Saiyan's zenkai ability it's entirely possible that the ultra divine water really was just poison.

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* Given what we now know about the Saiyan's zenkai ability Zenkai ability, it's entirely possible that the ultra divine water Ultra Divine Water really was just poison.



* There's some fridge horror in Seventeen and Eighteen's names. We know they were origninally human, and almost certainly wouldn't have been named Android Number Seventeen, and Android Number eighteen. We also know they hated Gero, and rebelled against them. So why is it they always use the numbers he assigned to them? That even after she marries Krillin, he still only calls her Eighteen? Whatever Dr. Gero did to the twins either made them forget their own names, or made them feel so distanced from their previous lives that they no longer feel any reason but to use the names he assigned them.

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* There's some fridge horror in Seventeen and Eighteen's names. We know they were origninally originally human, and almost certainly wouldn't have been named Android Number Seventeen, and Android Number eighteen. We also know they hated Gero, and rebelled against them. So why is it they always use the numbers he assigned to them? That even after she marries Krillin, he still only calls her Eighteen? Whatever Dr. Gero did to the twins either made them forget their own names, or made them feel so distanced from their previous lives that they no longer feel any reason but to use the names he assigned them.



* Given that Beers is canonically capable of destroying galaxies and that his sun-like energy ball is supposedly his strongest attack, it follows that even if Goku had actually deflected it, he still wouldn't have saved the Earth from the blast radius. (Is it possible that he actually knew this and was trying to absorb it all along?)

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* Given that Beers Beerus is canonically capable of destroying galaxies and that his sun-like energy ball is supposedly his strongest attack, it follows that even if Goku had actually deflected it, he still wouldn't have saved the Earth from the blast radius. (Is it possible that he actually knew this and was trying to absorb it all along?)



* During Vegeta's fight with Perfect Cell, Trunks accuses him of using too much energy that will surely destroy the planet. In the Final Flash's after math, Trunks realizes Vegeta was able to focus most of his energy on Cell, leaving Earth relatively unharmed (indeed, the rockets that launch the space shuttle probably leave more collateral damage despite Vegeta's attack traveling much faster). The scary thing is, this concept was explained by King Kai back when he taught Goku the Spirit Bomb. Trunks, even when too weak to stop 17 and 18, was still several hundred times more powerful than Goku was then. The basic techniques that keep the planets intact, Trunks apparently lived his whole life to that point without knowing them, making him a potentially bigger threat to all life than the Androids through sheer ignorance. In fact, after he achieved his ultra-muscular grade Super Saiyan transformation, if Cell had been of near-equal rather than superior in overall power Trunks would've more likely destroyed the Earth than Cell! Of course Vegeta would know this because he wasn't in the business of destroying planets, but wiping out their native populations and selling them to the highest bidder.
* Even though Frieza is downgraded to a joke villain from the Androids saga on, really, when you think about all the implications of his powers, he's ''terrifying''. As stated in Resurrection F, Frieza has never had to train so much as a ''day'' in his life before; all that power we see in the Namek saga? That's just natural talent and fighting instincts. Then, In Resurrection F, after only training for ''four months'', Frieza manages to raise his power level to the point he can actually pose a decent challenge to Goku in Super Saiyan GOD form, which is currently Goku's ultimate form. It took Goku years of training against some of the most powerful fighters around and defeating big-name bad guys like Majin Buu and Beerus to unlock this state, and then Frieze manages to pump himself up to threat level for it in a less than half a year. Just how powerful could Frieza ''get'' if he actually trained anywhere near as hard as Goku does?
* The [[WhatAnIdiot/DragonBall What an Idiot]] page goes on and on about the mistake about saving Dende and Hercule and not Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo. However, think about that situation. No Dende means no Dragon Balls and no Hercule means no Spirit Bomb or Good Buu return. And despite all their power, the kids have flaws that would cause them to fall to Kid Buu. Between Gohan's sadistic tendencies at full power and Gotenks' childish arrogance, they could easily find themselves toying with Kid Buu and giving him enough time to heal back on full strength and kill or even ''[[FromBadToWorse absorb]]'' them due to his PhysicalGod status and HealingFactor that puts '''[[FromASingleCell Cell's]]''' to shame, or worse yet, causing his [[HairTriggerTemper temper]] to flare up and kill everyone out of rage — all things the slightly more composed Super Buu has either successfully or nearly done on ''several occasions''. Meaning, if Goku had saved his family, [[SenselessSacrifice he would have]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt doomed the universe]].

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* During Vegeta's fight with Perfect Cell, Trunks accuses him of using too much energy that will surely destroy the planet. In the Final Flash's after math, aftermath, Trunks realizes Vegeta was able to focus most of his energy on Cell, leaving Earth relatively unharmed (indeed, the rockets that launch the space shuttle probably leave more collateral damage despite Vegeta's attack traveling much faster). The scary thing is, this concept was explained by King Kai back when he taught Goku the Spirit Bomb. Trunks, even when too weak to stop 17 and 18, was still several hundred times more powerful than Goku was then. The basic techniques that keep the planets intact, Trunks apparently lived his whole life to that point without knowing them, making him a potentially bigger threat to all life than the Androids through sheer ignorance. In fact, after he achieved his ultra-muscular grade Super Saiyan transformation, if Cell had been of near-equal rather than superior in overall power Trunks would've more likely destroyed the Earth than Cell! Of course course, Vegeta would know this because he wasn't in the business of destroying planets, but wiping out their native populations and selling them to the highest bidder.
* Even though Frieza is downgraded to a joke villain from the Androids saga on, onwards, really, when you think about all the implications of his powers, he's ''terrifying''. As stated in Resurrection F, Frieza has never had to train so much as a ''day'' in his life before; all that power we see in the Namek saga? That's just natural talent and fighting instincts. Then, In Resurrection F, after only training for ''four months'', Frieza manages to raise his power level to the point he can actually pose a decent challenge to Goku in Super Saiyan GOD form, which is currently Goku's ultimate form. It took Goku years of training against some of the most powerful fighters around and defeating big-name bad guys like Majin Buu and Beerus to unlock this state, and then Frieze Frieza manages to pump himself up to threat level for it in a less than half a year. Just how powerful could Frieza ''get'' if he actually trained anywhere near as hard as Goku does?
* The [[WhatAnIdiot/DragonBall What an Idiot]] page goes on and on about the mistake about saving Dende and Hercule and not Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo. However, think about that situation. situation critically. No Dende means no Dragon Balls and no Hercule means no Spirit Bomb or Good Buu Buu's return. And despite all their great power, the kids have flaws that would cause them to fall to Kid Buu. Between Gohan's sadistic tendencies at full power and Gotenks' childish arrogance, they could easily find themselves toying with Kid Buu and giving him enough time to heal back on to full strength and kill or even ''[[FromBadToWorse absorb]]'' them due to his PhysicalGod status and HealingFactor that puts '''[[FromASingleCell Cell's]]''' to shame, or worse yet, causing his [[HairTriggerTemper temper]] to flare up and kill everyone out of rage — all things the slightly more composed Super Buu has either successfully or nearly done on ''several occasions''. Meaning, if Goku had saved his family, [[SenselessSacrifice he would have]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt doomed the universe]].
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