History Fridge / Dragonball

18th Apr '17 10:27:51 AM TheFuzzyKnight
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** Parenting is a struggle for those who grew up in abusive environments. Often the initial reaction to a child's behavior is the same reaction their parents would have. It takes a conscious effort to check that reaction and choose a different response. In a series with so many fantastic elements, Vegeta's efforts to be better than his father are poignantly ''real''.
15th Apr '17 5:56:05 AM SomeoneElse17
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** Even Goku Black, the black-clad evil double of Goku seen in the Future Trunks saga of ''Dragon Ball Super'', doesn't quite fall into the straightforward "Goku as a villain" stock trope. He calls Trunks "Saiyan" as if he himself isn't one and wears a green Potara-like earring as well as possesses a Ring of Time. He seems to be able to actively manipulate smoke clouds in ways no one else has been seen doing to this point in the series, and his eyes glow a bright menacing red[[note]]in ''Dragon Ball'', red glowing eyes are usually reserved for one of four uses; intentionally-vague "flashback" scenes, Shenron or a counterpart granting a wish, or as an indicator of demonic activity and/or brainwashing[[/note]] when he's covered under smoke. Indeed, he may not even be a Saiyan at all. He does away with the smoke tactic after his face is shown on-screen, but is still vastly different from Goku due to his Kai artifacts, no-nonsense murderous snobbishness, and an AxCrazy belief in his own OmniscientMoralityLicense to declare that HumansAreTheRealMonsters similar to that of a rogue Supreme Kai apprentice named Zamasu in Universe 10. [[spoiler:Then it turns out that he (A) is tag team partners with the version of Zamasu from Trunks' future, and (B) is an alternate version of present Zamasu himself who successfully kills his master to become a Kai, wishes on the Super Dragon Balls to ''steal Goku's body'', and ''kills Goku and his family in cold blood before recruiting his future self. He's not so much "the anti-Goku" as opposed to "a SatanicArchetype who successfully pulled a permanent Ginyu."]]]]

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** Even Goku Black, the black-clad evil double of Goku seen in the Future Trunks saga of ''Dragon Ball Super'', doesn't quite fall into the straightforward "Goku as a villain" stock trope. He calls Trunks "Saiyan" as if he himself isn't one and wears a green Potara-like earring as well as possesses a Ring of Time. He seems to be able to actively manipulate smoke clouds in ways no one else has been seen doing to this point in the series, and his eyes glow a bright menacing red[[note]]in ''Dragon Ball'', red glowing eyes are usually reserved for one of four uses; intentionally-vague "flashback" scenes, Shenron or a counterpart granting a wish, or as an indicator of demonic activity and/or brainwashing[[/note]] when he's covered under smoke. Indeed, he may not even be a Saiyan at all. He does away with the smoke tactic after his face is shown on-screen, but is still vastly different from Goku due to his Kai artifacts, no-nonsense murderous snobbishness, and an AxCrazy belief in his own OmniscientMoralityLicense to declare that HumansAreTheRealMonsters similar to that of a rogue Supreme Kai apprentice named Zamasu in Universe 10. [[spoiler:Then it turns out that he (A) is tag team partners with the version of Zamasu from Trunks' future, and (B) is an alternate version of present Zamasu himself who successfully kills his master to become a Kai, wishes on the Super Dragon Balls to ''steal Goku's body'', and ''kills Goku and his family in cold blood before recruiting his future self.self''. He's not so much "the anti-Goku" as opposed to "a SatanicArchetype who successfully pulled a permanent Ginyu."]]]]"]]
20th Mar '17 2:49:01 AM JackWhitehead
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** His tendency to spare his enemies goes back to him letting Piccolo Jr. live at the end of ''Dragon Ball.'' It's a dramatic departure from his earlier attitude of killing his enemies without hesitation. What happened in the interim? He lived with God for three years! Kami didn't just made Goku stronger physically, he refined him spiritually.




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* The passing of the torch at the end of the Cell arc (temporary though it may have been) is even more poignant when you take into account Cell's genetic makeup. Specifically, he is a combination of the last three [[ArcVillain arc villains]] (Piccolo, Vegeta and Freeza) that was created by the story's first true ArcVillain, the Red Ribbon Army. By killing Cell and saving the world Gohan not only takes his father's place as savior of the world, he does it by defeating all of the major enemies Goku defeated in his lifetime. It's the ultimate rite-of-passage.
19th Mar '17 10:06:00 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Ginyu's ability to body switch is unblockable because the Z-fighters were caught off guard the first time and have never encountered another technique like it before or since, which makes developing countermeasures difficult. Its hard to believe that Frieza would not have a defence against it given how long they have worked together or that he wouldn't keep Ginyu away from him at all times given the risk. Frieza is prideful, not stupid. The other problem is that we simply do not know enough about how it, it may not even work on someone as powerful or as biologically different as Frieza.
19th Mar '17 12:50:44 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* By the time he was in his Perfect form, Cell was already stronger than any of the Z-Fighters and it took SSJ2 Gohan to take him down; and like Frieza, he's never trained a day in his life. He ''also'' has Frieza genes and thus his potential, combined with potential from the cells inherited from other Z-Fighters. Thought Golden Frieza was powerful? Imagine what Cell could become if he trained for four months. Hell, even if he trained during the nine-day wait for the Cell games(or just decided to call things off so he could reach his potential)? Like with Frieza, the universe is really lucky {{Pride}} is his FatalFlaw.
18th Mar '17 11:27:42 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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** Captain Ginyu's ability to body switch [[StoryBreakerPower is practically unbeatable]], and he has [[TimeStandsStill Guldo]] to potentially help. Given what we've seen, he's in no means BrilliantButLazy. Imagine if [[HijackingCthulhu he stole Freeza's body]]. Goku and friends should thank their lucky stars [[UndyingLoyalty Ginyu's so loyal to Freeza]].




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* Dr Gero's mosquito robots took DNA from every major arc except for the Namek arc, and Freeza/King Cold when they arrived to Earth. Cell, the product of this, is one of the most daunting foes the Z-Fighters have faced and inherited all their techniques. Had Dr Gero manage to follow them to Namek, he would've had accessed to Guldo's DNA and thus [[TimeStandsSkill his time-stop]]. And since Cell doesn't need to breathe, the only thing limiting Guldo's power (having to hold his breath) is gone and can use it as long as he wishes. You know how [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders The World]] is a terrifying ability the heroes were barely able to overcome? [[OhCrap Now imagine a foe that lack Dio's time limit]].
* Vegeta was just a few second from getting his wish for immortality before the Grand Elder died. The thought of a still evil Vegeta becoming unkillable is bad enough, but you have to wonder how it would affect his Zenkai boosts. Would being torn apart and magically resurrecting because of his immortality count as a near-death blow? If Cell, who's already [[FromASingleCell all but immortal]], still gets Zenkai boosts from being eradicated, it probably would.
5th Mar '17 11:30:34 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Frieza was scared of the Super Saiyan legend, not Beerus. That would be a huge retcon even for this show.
5th Mar '17 10:19:35 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Why does Frieza [[ImmortalitySeeker want immortality so badly]]? Well, there's [[Characters/DragonBallBeerus a certain God of Destruction]] he's terrified of...
15th Feb '17 11:19:39 AM EDP
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* When he thought Goku had been killed by King Piccolo, Yajirobe considered eating him. He also thought Goku was human. [[ImAHumanitarian Did he ever eat people?]]
30th Jan '17 3:54:45 AM EDP
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** That also explains how and why Goku whips out a [[WrestlerInAllOfUs Boston Crab]] when fighting Tenshinhan: he wasn't taught any move by the Turtle Hermit, but his first teacher was another of his students who may have learned the skills, or at least the idea, from him, and Goku, after not using them out of personal preference, saw how effective they were against that same opponent.
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