History Fridge / Dinotopia

19th Oct '17 8:45:19 AM SkidTroper
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19th Oct '17 8:45:01 AM SkidTroper
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* The dinosaurs are depicted as having found some path to peace, to the point that even with the issue of CarnivoreConfusion addressed, the carnivores and herbivores can get along, but this doesn't explain how the dinosaurs found this path and why they chose it. Though CarnivoreConfusion is addressed, this story relies heavily on the HerbivoresAreFriendly trope. The carnivores are said to be "hungry by nature and have no stomach for civilization" so it doesn't make sense that they would agree this path. Second, herbivores themselves can be nasty (as discussed on the trope page for HerbivoresAreFriendly) so it doesn't explain how they all get along, especially when they would go through food very quickly and how they resolve disagreements such as a LoveTriangle or human traits such as greed, pride, envy and deceit. Third, this society is dangerously vulnerable to a military invasion force (the closest Dinotopia has to an army are the non-weapon wielding Skybax and the natural weapons of the dinosaurs, assuming [[GodzillaThreshold they don't call in help from the carnivores]]... and they'd better pray to God that if an army manages to arrive that they doesn't have weapons (I don't think even the Posedian robots had weapons on them).

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* The dinosaurs are depicted as having found some path to peace, to the point that even with the issue of CarnivoreConfusion addressed, the carnivores and herbivores can get along, but this doesn't explain how the dinosaurs found this path and why they chose it. Though CarnivoreConfusion is addressed, this story relies heavily on the HerbivoresAreFriendly trope. The carnivores are said to be "hungry by nature and have no stomach for civilization" so it doesn't make sense that they would agree this path. Second, herbivores themselves can be nasty (as discussed on the trope page for HerbivoresAreFriendly) so it doesn't explain how they all get along, especially when they would go through food very quickly and how they resolve disagreements such as a LoveTriangle or human traits such as greed, pride, envy and deceit. Third, this society is dangerously vulnerable to a military invasion force (the closest Dinotopia has to an army are the non-weapon wielding Skybax and the natural weapons of the dinosaurs, assuming [[GodzillaThreshold they don't call in help from the carnivores]]... ), and they'd better pray to God that if an army manages to arrive that they doesn't have weapons (I don't think even the Posedian robots had weapons on them).
19th Oct '17 8:40:14 AM SkidTroper
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** There must be a larger variety of things that the [[TalkingAnimal dinosaurs]] can donate their bodies to: [[ForScience Science]], one of several causes that [[HumanResources need the materials for building]], and [[ImaHumanitarian Culinary]]. Humans can only donate their bodies [[ForScience for scientific uses]].

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** There must be a larger variety of things that the [[TalkingAnimal dinosaurs]] can donate their bodies to: [[ForScience Science]], one of several causes that [[HumanResources need the materials for building]], and [[ImaHumanitarian Culinary]]. Humans can only donate their bodies [[ForScience for scientific uses]].uses]].

* The dinosaurs are depicted as having found some path to peace, to the point that even with the issue of CarnivoreConfusion addressed, the carnivores and herbivores can get along, but this doesn't explain how the dinosaurs found this path and why they chose it. Though CarnivoreConfusion is addressed, this story relies heavily on the HerbivoresAreFriendly trope. The carnivores are said to be "hungry by nature and have no stomach for civilization" so it doesn't make sense that they would agree this path. Second, herbivores themselves can be nasty (as discussed on the trope page for HerbivoresAreFriendly) so it doesn't explain how they all get along, especially when they would go through food very quickly and how they resolve disagreements such as a LoveTriangle or human traits such as greed, pride, envy and deceit. Third, this society is dangerously vulnerable to a military invasion force (the closest Dinotopia has to an army are the non-weapon wielding Skybax and the natural weapons of the dinosaurs, assuming [[GodzillaThreshold they don't call in help from the carnivores]]... and they'd better pray to God that if an army manages to arrive that they doesn't have weapons (I don't think even the Posedian robots had weapons on them).
16th Apr '17 3:43:00 PM JamesSwann
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** He says that ''Dinotopia'' no longer appears on modern maps. He never states that it doesn't appear ''under another name''; it could have been renamed over the years to keep it hidden; someone in modern day -- like in Jurassic Park, for example -- would go right in there at the mention of "dinosaur" and a "Utopia" to retrieve or enslave a dinosaur, so it may have just been renamed for its own safety.
21st Nov '16 6:23:46 PM ElSquibbonator
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*** It gets even more confusing in the prequel novel ''First Flight.'' In it, we're introduced to "Northies", or ''Quetzalcoatlus northrop''. This species was named after Jack Northrop, meaning that the Dinotopians somehow know the name of an animal named after ''a person who wasn't even born yet!''



** There must be a larger variety of things that the [[TalkingAnimal dinosaurs]] can donate their bodies to: [[ForScience Science]], one of several causes that [[HumanResources need the materials for building]], and [[ImaHumanitarian Culinary]]. Humans can only donate their bodies [[ForScience for scientific uses]].

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** There must be a larger variety of things that the [[TalkingAnimal dinosaurs]] can donate their bodies to: [[ForScience Science]], one of several causes that [[HumanResources need the materials for building]], and [[ImaHumanitarian Culinary]]. Humans can only donate their bodies [[ForScience for scientific uses]].
12th Sep '14 4:18:09 PM JenBurdoo
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** Not the only terms either; words such as "taxi" didn't exist yet either.

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** Not the only terms either; words such as "taxi" and "helium" didn't exist yet either.
12th Sep '14 1:10:26 PM JenBurdoo
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** Not the only terms either; words such as "taxi" didn't exist yet either.



*** The fact that the Latin translation of ''Tyrannosaurus rex'' is a minor plot point in ''The World Beneath'' rules out TranslationConvention.

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*** The fact that the Latin translation of ''Tyrannosaurus rex'' is a minor plot point in ''The World Beneath'' rules out TranslationConvention.
TranslationConvention. Denison also expresses fear of them -- in 1862, four decades before the species was named.
5th Jun '14 8:11:32 PM schoi30
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** More likely he meant it is simply long forgotten by the rest of the world (it is a LostWorld, after all). Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].

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** More likely he meant it is simply long forgotten by the rest of the world (it is a LostWorld, after all). Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].
hiding]]. Or it could even be a PocketDimension.
5th Jun '14 8:09:28 PM schoi30
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** More likely he meant it is long forgotten by the rest of the world. Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].

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** More likely he meant it is simply long forgotten by the rest of the world.world (it is a LostWorld, after all). Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].
23rd Aug '13 9:57:51 PM schoi30
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** Or at least long forgotten by the rest of the world. Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].

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** Or at least More likely he meant it is long forgotten by the rest of the world. Maybe like in the animated film, [[HesJustHiding it's just hiding]].
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