History Fridge / DCAU

19th Jan '16 11:34:17 AM nombretomado
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* Okay, so I just realized this while reading this article. ''Return of the Joker'' = ROTJ = ''ReturnOfTheJedi''. Who's returning in both movies? MarkHamill. - {{psychothumbs}}

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* Okay, so I just realized this while reading this article. ''Return of the Joker'' = ROTJ = ''ReturnOfTheJedi''. Who's returning in both movies? MarkHamill.Creator/MarkHamill. - {{psychothumbs}}



* ''StaticShock'' had the episode "Hard as Nails", where Batman makes an offhand comment about Robin joining the Teen Titans and how Static would meet them someday. In context, it comes off as an attempt to add the Titans into the DCAU, which never happened. Geoff Johns had also been trying to add Static to the main DC Comics titles without success. Then, years later, a combination of the animated Static and the comic Static was folded into the main DC Universe. It may have taken place in an entirely different universe, but watching that episode now just makes for brilliant foreshadowing. --[=TheRoguePenguin=]

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* ''StaticShock'' ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'' had the episode "Hard as Nails", where Batman makes an offhand comment about Robin joining the Teen Titans and how Static would meet them someday. In context, it comes off as an attempt to add the Titans into the DCAU, which never happened. Geoff Johns had also been trying to add Static to the main DC Comics titles without success. Then, years later, a combination of the animated Static and the comic Static was folded into the main DC Universe. It may have taken place in an entirely different universe, but watching that episode now just makes for brilliant foreshadowing. --[=TheRoguePenguin=]
3rd Nov '15 10:35:50 AM firejewel
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12th Aug '15 3:27:26 AM MechWarrior
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** Also, this is a man who spent probably twenty to thirty years getting the shit kicked out of him in about a million different ways by everyone from SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker to {{Darkseid}}. That can't be good for your heart.

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** Also, this is a man who spent probably twenty to thirty years getting the shit kicked out of him in about a million different ways by everyone from SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker to {{Darkseid}}.{{ComicBook/Darkseid}}. That can't be good for your heart.
12th Aug '15 3:24:55 AM MechWarrior
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** I would have to agree. The episode works not only to demystify the Terry backstory, but also ties together several loose threads from [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the original series]] by cramming in so much audacious plotting that it really does take half a dozen viewings to catch all the references. At first, it appears to be a massive {{Retcon}} and very disrespectful to the legacy, but given time, it actually makes me think the whole thing was an attempt to make the {{DCAU}} ''more'' epic and thought-provoking, and with this in mind, it made rewatching the entire run of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' more enjoyable. It gives the older, heartless Wayne a much-needed dose of lingering humanity well-hidden behind his tough facade. Without too much hyperbole, I personally now regard this as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome that stacks up well to any others in the {{DCAU}} and one of my top five ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' episodes overall. --DarthWiki/MrBrownstone
** I also agree about how important multiple viewings was to this episode. It took me quite a while to realize that ''every single one'' of the DeliberatelyMonochrome flashback scenes were not, in fact, flashbacks, but mental hypothetical scenarios that went through Terry's mind after the devastating revelation. Once I figured that out, the episode [[TookALevelInBadass took about five levels in]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]]. -Batfan

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** I would have to agree. The episode works not only to demystify the Terry backstory, but also ties together several loose threads from [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the original series]] by cramming in so much audacious plotting that it really does take half a dozen viewings to catch all the references. At first, it appears to be a massive {{Retcon}} and very disrespectful to the legacy, but given time, it actually makes me think the whole thing was an attempt to make the {{DCAU}} ''more'' epic and thought-provoking, and with this in mind, it made rewatching the entire run of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' more enjoyable. It gives the older, heartless Wayne a much-needed dose of lingering humanity well-hidden behind his tough facade. Without too much hyperbole, I personally now regard this as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome that stacks up well to any others in the {{DCAU}} and one of my top five ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' episodes overall. --DarthWiki/MrBrownstone
** I also agree about how important multiple viewings was to this episode. It took me quite a while to realize that ''every single one'' of the DeliberatelyMonochrome flashback scenes were not, in fact, flashbacks, but mental hypothetical scenarios that went through Terry's mind after the devastating revelation. Once I figured that out, the episode [[TookALevelInBadass took about five levels in]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]]. -Batfan
14th Jul '15 5:23:59 PM nombretomado
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** Yet another from this ep: The "Justice Lords" incident, as well as the times Franchise/{{Superman}} went rogue, probably impressed upon all concerned that the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague functions best when all of the Big 7 are around. Of them, only Franchise/{{Batman}} was in danger of leaving a hole when he finally died for real. Superman, Franchise/WonderWoman, and MartianManhunter are all [[{{Immortality}} nigh-immortal]], TheFlash has had various successors, the Comicbook/{{Green Lantern}}s regularly recruit new members, and Hawkgirl would produce Warhawk in at least one continuity. Only Batman was seriously in danger of leaving no heir. Thus, he's the only one for which a "Beyond" project is even necessary, but he's ''important'' enough for it to be ''imperative''. -Tropers/GamerFromJump

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** Yet another from this ep: The "Justice Lords" incident, as well as the times Franchise/{{Superman}} went rogue, probably impressed upon all concerned that the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague functions best when all of the Big 7 are around. Of them, only Franchise/{{Batman}} was in danger of leaving a hole when he finally died for real. Superman, Franchise/WonderWoman, and MartianManhunter ComicBook/MartianManhunter are all [[{{Immortality}} nigh-immortal]], TheFlash has had various successors, the Comicbook/{{Green Lantern}}s regularly recruit new members, and Hawkgirl would produce Warhawk in at least one continuity. Only Batman was seriously in danger of leaving no heir. Thus, he's the only one for which a "Beyond" project is even necessary, but he's ''important'' enough for it to be ''imperative''. -Tropers/GamerFromJump



** On a related vote, since GL abstained from the vote, the remaining voting leaguers were Flash, Franchise/WonderWoman, Superman, Batman, and MartianManhunter. Since it's quite obvious that Flash would've voted "for keeping her", just as it's obvious that WonderWoman would've voted "against", and it was explicitly stated that Superman voted "for", the remaining votes were Batman and MartianManhunter. Though we don't know which way they voted, we know that the two of them split. This, then, is the silent acknowledgment that the issue was so complex that a psychic (though he couldn't work ''as well'' on Thanagarians, he's still had experience) and [[MemeticMutation The Goddamn]] Franchise/{{Batman}} couldn't reach an agreement. - WanderlustWarrior

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** On a related vote, since GL abstained from the vote, the remaining voting leaguers were Flash, Franchise/WonderWoman, Superman, Batman, and MartianManhunter. ComicBook/MartianManhunter. Since it's quite obvious that Flash would've voted "for keeping her", just as it's obvious that WonderWoman would've voted "against", and it was explicitly stated that Superman voted "for", the remaining votes were Batman and MartianManhunter.ComicBook/MartianManhunter. Though we don't know which way they voted, we know that the two of them split. This, then, is the silent acknowledgment that the issue was so complex that a psychic (though he couldn't work ''as well'' on Thanagarians, he's still had experience) and [[MemeticMutation The Goddamn]] Franchise/{{Batman}} couldn't reach an agreement. - WanderlustWarrior
21st Jun '15 4:53:52 PM nombretomado
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*** This was intentional, and taken directly from KingdomCome where his Secret Identity was blown, villains destroyed Wayne Manor and he lives full time in the cave and only answers to "Batman".

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*** This was intentional, and taken directly from KingdomCome ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' where his Secret Identity was blown, villains destroyed Wayne Manor and he lives full time in the cave and only answers to "Batman".
16th Jun '15 6:35:51 PM nombretomado
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* The FullyAbsorbedFinale of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' in ''JusticeLeague'', "Epilogue", was a strange mash-up of ideas. It integrated the Cadmus storyline of Justice League into the "Beyond" future by having [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne being the biological father of Terry. Terry's assumed dad was secretly genetically reprogrammed by the principle project workers behind Cadmus]]. It was an obvious {{Retcon}} that had most message board posts going "WTF?!?!", and I was one of them, at least initially. The more I thought about it, the more I liked certain aspects of it, like Amanda Waller's lesson to Terry that he chose his own path. [[http://anbat.toonzone.net/bb/epilogue.htm This review]] convinced me of how brilliant this episode truly is, that it is supposed to be almost unbelievable. It is a {{Deconstruction}} of the SuperHeroOrigin story. --KJMackley

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* The FullyAbsorbedFinale of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' in ''JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', "Epilogue", was a strange mash-up of ideas. It integrated the Cadmus storyline of Justice League into the "Beyond" future by having [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne being the biological father of Terry. Terry's assumed dad was secretly genetically reprogrammed by the principle project workers behind Cadmus]]. It was an obvious {{Retcon}} that had most message board posts going "WTF?!?!", and I was one of them, at least initially. The more I thought about it, the more I liked certain aspects of it, like Amanda Waller's lesson to Terry that he chose his own path. [[http://anbat.toonzone.net/bb/epilogue.htm This review]] convinced me of how brilliant this episode truly is, that it is supposed to be almost unbelievable. It is a {{Deconstruction}} of the SuperHeroOrigin story. --KJMackley



** Yet another from this ep: The "Justice Lords" incident, as well as the times Franchise/{{Superman}} went rogue, probably impressed upon all concerned that the JusticeLeague functions best when all of the Big 7 are around. Of them, only Franchise/{{Batman}} was in danger of leaving a hole when he finally died for real. Superman, Franchise/WonderWoman, and MartianManhunter are all [[{{Immortality}} nigh-immortal]], TheFlash has had various successors, the Comicbook/{{Green Lantern}}s regularly recruit new members, and Hawkgirl would produce Warhawk in at least one continuity. Only Batman was seriously in danger of leaving no heir. Thus, he's the only one for which a "Beyond" project is even necessary, but he's ''important'' enough for it to be ''imperative''. -Tropers/GamerFromJump

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** Yet another from this ep: The "Justice Lords" incident, as well as the times Franchise/{{Superman}} went rogue, probably impressed upon all concerned that the JusticeLeague WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague functions best when all of the Big 7 are around. Of them, only Franchise/{{Batman}} was in danger of leaving a hole when he finally died for real. Superman, Franchise/WonderWoman, and MartianManhunter are all [[{{Immortality}} nigh-immortal]], TheFlash has had various successors, the Comicbook/{{Green Lantern}}s regularly recruit new members, and Hawkgirl would produce Warhawk in at least one continuity. Only Batman was seriously in danger of leaving no heir. Thus, he's the only one for which a "Beyond" project is even necessary, but he's ''important'' enough for it to be ''imperative''. -Tropers/GamerFromJump



* Also ''JusticeLeague'', in the episode "Dead Reckoning", Grodd's big plan is to transform every human on the planet into an ape. It fails, of course, and at the end, Luthor tells Grodd off for it [[spoiler: as he usurps Grodd's place as leader of the Legion of Doom]] in a very snarky [[Awesome/JusticeLeague Crowning Moment of Awesome.]] It was only a long while later, reflecting on the ''JLA'' "Tower of Babel" arc that I realized something about Grodd's plan. If he had succeeded, he would have not only created an intensive ''worldwide'' panic, which means a lot of rioting (rioting done by gorillas, no less), he would have made it impossible for humanity to use almost all of their technological creations. Cars, guns, factories, pencils... none of that stuff was intended to be used by gorillas. The economy, emergency services, educational system - every human-made internal structure would have collapsed under the panic, rioting, and incompatibility with gorillas. The Justice League would have been stretched to the breaking point containing the damage, leaving Grodd and his Legion free to do whatever they wanted--J the Drafter

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* Also ''JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', in the episode "Dead Reckoning", Grodd's big plan is to transform every human on the planet into an ape. It fails, of course, and at the end, Luthor tells Grodd off for it [[spoiler: as he usurps Grodd's place as leader of the Legion of Doom]] in a very snarky [[Awesome/JusticeLeague Crowning Moment of Awesome.]] It was only a long while later, reflecting on the ''JLA'' "Tower of Babel" arc that I realized something about Grodd's plan. If he had succeeded, he would have not only created an intensive ''worldwide'' panic, which means a lot of rioting (rioting done by gorillas, no less), he would have made it impossible for humanity to use almost all of their technological creations. Cars, guns, factories, pencils... none of that stuff was intended to be used by gorillas. The economy, emergency services, educational system - every human-made internal structure would have collapsed under the panic, rioting, and incompatibility with gorillas. The Justice League would have been stretched to the breaking point containing the damage, leaving Grodd and his Legion free to do whatever they wanted--J the Drafter



* I was wondering for years why in the ''JusticeLeague'' episode "Hereafter", as Wonder Woman goes after Toyman for the apparent death of Superman, she was crying, something that struck me as somewhat out of character. But then after a recent rewatching of the episode, I saw that the blast that hit Superman would have hit Wonder Woman and Batman if he hadn't [[TakingTheBullet taken the blast.]] She's going through [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]]! ---Brainiac0982

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* I was wondering for years why in the ''JusticeLeague'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' episode "Hereafter", as Wonder Woman goes after Toyman for the apparent death of Superman, she was crying, something that struck me as somewhat out of character. But then after a recent rewatching of the episode, I saw that the blast that hit Superman would have hit Wonder Woman and Batman if he hadn't [[TakingTheBullet taken the blast.]] She's going through [[SurvivorGuilt survivor's guilt]]! ---Brainiac0982



* When Batman met up with Clayface in ''JusticeLeague'', he was even more of a dick to the tragic supervillain than usual. Why? I just realized that one of Clayface's last appearances in BTAS has him [[spoiler: commit a murder by absorbing the little girl Annie, who split off from him and in front of Batman and Robin, who was falling for her, to boot.]] WhatMeasureIsANonHuman aside, would you have sympathy for a [[spoiler: person who killed the closest thing he had to a daughter]] and laughed it off? Hell no!- koolkame

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* When Batman met up with Clayface in ''JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', he was even more of a dick to the tragic supervillain than usual. Why? I just realized that one of Clayface's last appearances in BTAS has him [[spoiler: commit a murder by absorbing the little girl Annie, who split off from him and in front of Batman and Robin, who was falling for her, to boot.]] WhatMeasureIsANonHuman aside, would you have sympathy for a [[spoiler: person who killed the closest thing he had to a daughter]] and laughed it off? Hell no!- koolkame



* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Bruce would don a more aggressive voice when wearing the cowl, and have a more relaxed voice when he was simply Bruce. KevinConroy doesn't switch up the voices in ''JusticeLeague''. That's because whenever Bruce appears out of costume, he was with his teammates, meaning there was no reason to revert back to his playboy persona. @/{{Lionheart0}}

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Bruce would don a more aggressive voice when wearing the cowl, and have a more relaxed voice when he was simply Bruce. KevinConroy doesn't switch up the voices in ''JusticeLeague''.''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague''. That's because whenever Bruce appears out of costume, he was with his teammates, meaning there was no reason to revert back to his playboy persona. @/{{Lionheart0}}
14th Apr '15 4:26:38 PM scifilovr
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*In the Justice League episode "Injustice for All", it is revealed that Lex Luthor is dying from cancer caused by his carrying around a chunk of kryptonite for years. This is a significant development because it turns the traditional version of kryptonite on its head. Kryptonite is supposed to be dangerous only to Superman, but it's killing Luthor. However, this is actually revealed way back in Superman: The Animated Series. In "World's Finest," the past owners of the kryptonite dragon are noted to have died prematurely. So we were told kryptonite was lethal to humans long before it gave Lex Luthor cancer.
3rd Dec '14 10:17:58 PM TimeArrow
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** Actually, she is a natural brunette who used to dye her hair blond...then realized those dyes were all animal tested. It's explained in the tie-in comic Batman: Gotham Adventures #4.
13th May '14 6:40:39 PM SteveMB
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*** Superman might be able to literally see it in his DNA (given that we've seen the DCAU Superman use both X-Ray and microscopic vision) -Tropers/SteveMB
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