History Fridge / Bleach

3rd Jan '16 10:23:13 AM TallTroper
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*** Furthermore, some people question why such skilled healers as Unohana, Tenjiro, or hell, even Mayrui, haven't simply stepped in and healed him.[[spoiler: The Mimihagi represents, according to Mayuri, stagnation, or stillness. He's been locked into a perceptual state of stillness or sickness, because it's literally divine intervention that he can't be killed or cured by it!]]
29th Dec '15 3:51:15 PM MajorXenos
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*When Ichigo prepared to fight Kenpachi, as Ganju runs off with Yamada, he notes that he has a few questions to ask Ichigo once they return to the Rukongai. Could those questions have something to do with Ichigo's [[spoiler: similar appearance to Kaien Shiba?]] If that were the case, then Ichigo would've learned about [[spoiler: his Father's status as a former Shinigami Captain, and more humorously, that Ichigo is technically Ganju's cousin]].
26th Dec '15 6:47:00 PM Wyldchyld
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and Nozomi gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] with superior abilities.]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and Nozomi gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? Mary Sues? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] with superior abilities.]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
26th Dec '15 6:23:56 PM Wyldchyld
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* [[spoiler: The new BigBad, Tsukishima, is [[MagnificentBastard genius]], [[GoodScarsEvilScars scarred]], {{pretty boy}} who can cut anything with a katana made from a bookmark and, as of Chapter 456, has effectively [[SpotlightStealingSquad hijacked]] [[TheProtagonist Ichigo's]] life story. He basically [[InvokedTrope weaponized]] [[MartyStu Marty Stu]].]] FridgeBrilliance AND FridgeHorror.
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* [[spoiler: The new BigBad, Tsukishima, is [[MagnificentBastard genius]], [[GoodScarsEvilScars scarred]], {{pretty boy}} who can cut anything with a katana made from a bookmark and, as of Chapter 456, has effectively [[SpotlightStealingSquad hijacked]] [[TheProtagonist Ichigo's]] life story. He basically [[InvokedTrope weaponized]] [[MartyStu Marty Stu]].]] FridgeBrilliance AND FridgeHorror.
26th Dec '15 6:15:37 PM Wyldchyld
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and Nozomi gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] [[GodModeSue with superior abilities]].]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and Nozomi gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] [[GodModeSue with superior abilities]].abilities.]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
15th Dec '15 5:49:44 PM Discar
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and [[MacGuffinGirl Nozomi]] gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] [[GodModeSue with superior abilities]].]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why have [[FillerVillain Kageroza]] and [[MacGuffinGirl Nozomi]] Nozomi gained such a reputation as {{Mary Sue}}s? [[spoiler: Because they were constructed so by their creator, Ouko Yushima. Yushima himself lacked any notable combat ability, and thus used his mod soul creation experience to create [[AuthorAvatar a version of himself]] [[GodModeSue with superior abilities]].]] Exactly like a bad FanFic writer might make a character that's essentially him/herself but with SuperpowerLottery winning powers.
9th Dec '15 7:19:47 AM zerohelix
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* Aizen having a kido that speeds up one's perception of time doesn't seem quite so contrived (as the one thing that could drive off Yhwach) when you consider how useful such a thing would be in prison. [[/folder]] [[folder:Fridge Brilliance Zanpakuto and Bankai]]

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7th Dec '15 2:19:23 PM MajorXenos
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* In the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc, Nanao meets the materialized spirit of [[spoiler: Kyokotsu, one of the two spirits of Shunsui Kyoraku's Zanpakuto, Katen Kyokotsu,]] and forms a friendly relationship with her. How is this Fridge Brilliance? [[spoiler: Kyokotsu was created by her "sister", Katen, to house Nanao's Zanpakuto! Nanao was essientially hanging out with her own Zanpakuto Spirit!]]
26th Nov '15 1:37:14 PM SomeoneElse17
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** Captains normally need 10 years training with their bankai after gaining it meaning that they have to center their fighting style on their bankai. Ichigo's bankai, however , fits around his fighting style rather than forcing him to change it when he uses his bankai.
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** Captains normally need 10 years training with their bankai after gaining it meaning that they have to center their fighting style on their bankai. Ichigo's bankai, however , however, fits around his fighting style rather than forcing him to change it when he uses his bankai.

*** Thanks for making me realize that above troper. Another plus for Ichigo is that he stays in his bankai longer then should he be, making me question why at first. Sure he has a crap ton of reiatsu but so do most captains. This makes me think that EVERY bankai(bar Ichigo's) sacrifices most of their reiatsu to enter bankai. Ichigo's just takes a little reiatsu to activate and leaks off little leading to why he just sits in it even an hour after a fight with no minus whatsoever. So with the fight with Byakuya he didn't just overwhelm him but also wear him down by just showcasing his speed. Hell, the longest time we have seen him hold it is from when he fought (in order) Ulquiorra, lost, came back, killed Ulquiorra, healed injuries, saved Rukia, fired a Gestuga at Yammy, walked through the Garganta with Unohana for what can be assumed to be an hour BEFORE she offers to heal his reiatsu. And through all that he ended up at 40-50%. In terms of time that's round about 2-3 hours. Just wow. -- AvergeNOOB
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*** Thanks for making me realize that above troper. Another plus for Ichigo is that he stays in his bankai longer then should he be, making me question why at first. Sure he has a crap ton of reiatsu but so do most captains. This makes me think that EVERY bankai(bar bankai (bar Ichigo's) sacrifices most of their reiatsu to enter bankai. Ichigo's just takes a little reiatsu to activate and leaks off little leading to why he just sits in it even an hour after a fight with no minus whatsoever. So with the fight with Byakuya he didn't just overwhelm him but also wear him down by just showcasing his speed. Hell, the longest time we have seen him hold it is from when he fought (in order) Ulquiorra, lost, came back, killed Ulquiorra, healed injuries, saved Rukia, fired a Gestuga at Yammy, walked through the Garganta with Unohana for what can be assumed to be an hour BEFORE she offers to heal his reiatsu. And through all that he ended up at 40-50%. In terms of time that's round about 2-3 hours. Just wow. -- AvergeNOOB

*** Once you rethink the entire 1000-year Blood war arc do you realize why Ichigo's Bankai can never be stolen: 1) His "zagetsu" is actually his quincy power, and seeing that even Yuhabach cannot take it during his his purge, the lesser quincies cannot touch it either. 2) His real zanpakutou is permanently infused with Hollow power, which as demonstrated by Urahara, allows stolen bankai to be returned to its original owner. In short, even consider his current Zangetsu set as seperate swords, their very nature means they cannot be stolen by Quincy.
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*** Once you rethink the entire 1000-year Blood war arc do you realize why Ichigo's Bankai can never be stolen: 1) His "zagetsu" "Zangetsu" is actually his quincy power, and seeing that even Yuhabach Yhwach cannot take it during his his purge, the lesser quincies cannot touch it either. 2) His real zanpakutou is permanently infused with Hollow power, which as demonstrated by Urahara, allows stolen bankai to be returned to its original owner. In short, even consider his current Zangetsu set as seperate swords, their very nature means they cannot be stolen by Quincy.

*** Once you rethink The name Tensa has a second meaning hinting at this. Aside from its actual Japanese meaning, there's also the entire 1000-year Blood war arc do you realize why Ichigo's Bankai can never be stolen: 1) His "zagetsu" is actually his quincy power, and seeing fact that even Yuhabach cannot take it during his his purge, sounds similar to the lesser quincies cannot touch it either. 2) His real zanpakutou is permanently infused with Hollow power, which as demonstrated by Urahara, allows stolen bankai to be returned to its original owner. In short, even consider his current Zangetsu set as seperate swords, their very nature means they cannot be stolen by Quincy.English adjective ''tense''.

* Everyone has been saying that the Vandenreich curb-stomped Soul Society, and in a way they did, but...how big a victory was it really? Vandenreich started the battle with approx 18-20 Sternritter, counting Yhwach, both Lloyds, and Kirge Opie; they had stolen 1 bankai. Soul Society started with 13 captains, and Ichigo (& co.) in HM. Zaraki killed 3 sternritter. Yamamoto killed 1, and since that guy had the stolen bankai the quincy presumably lost it when he died. Then he killed the three who tried to jump him, and Royd Lloyd, the other Yourself. Then Bach stole Yama's bankai and killed him. In HM Opie got cut in half and Ichigo got to Soul Society as reinforcements, and the sternritter retreated. During the battle they stole 4 other bankai, too. BUT, two of the sternritter who stole bankai were killed killed by Yamamotot, so we assume that those bankai were lost too. All in all the only important Shinigami who actually was Yamamoto, and Soul society has info on how the quincy work to prepare for next time. Meanwhile, the quincy lost a minimum of NINE (Kenpachi's 3 + the Overkill + Yama's 3+ the Yourself+ Kirge Opie=9) sternritter and come out with a total of 3 banks, instead of the potential 6 they could have had. Plus, the changes caused by Yama's death will only make things worse for the quincy in the next battle, as the powered up fighters return to the field.
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* Everyone has been saying that the Vandenreich curb-stomped Soul Society, and in a way they did, but...how big a victory was it really? Vandenreich started the battle with approx 18-20 Sternritter, counting Yhwach, both Lloyds, and Kirge Opie; they had stolen 1 bankai. Soul Society started with 13 captains, and Ichigo (& co.) in HM. Zaraki killed 3 sternritter. Yamamoto killed 1, and since that guy had the stolen bankai the quincy presumably lost it when he died. Then he killed the three who tried to jump him, and Royd Lloyd, the other Yourself. Then Bach Yhwach stole Yama's bankai and killed him. In HM Opie got cut in half and Ichigo got to Soul Society as reinforcements, and the sternritter retreated. During the battle they stole 4 other bankai, too. BUT, two of the sternritter who stole bankai were killed killed by Yamamotot, so we assume that those bankai were lost too. All in all the only important Shinigami who actually was Yamamoto, and Soul society has info on how the quincy work to prepare for next time. Meanwhile, the quincy lost a minimum of NINE (Kenpachi's 3 + the Overkill + Yama's 3+ the Yourself+ Kirge Opie=9) sternritter and come out with a total of 3 banks, instead of the potential 6 they could have had. Plus, the changes caused by Yama's death will only make things worse for the quincy in the next battle, as the powered up fighters return to the field.
26th Nov '15 1:26:34 PM SomeoneElse17
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* More on the revelation of [[spoiler: Masaki being a Quincy and Ichigo having Quincy powers.]] Very early on in the series, Zangetsu explained to Ichigo that, while Ichigo did lose the Shinigami powers Rukia gave him, he still had his own dormant Shinigami powers that Rukia's reiatsu awakened. How did Juha Bach explain Ichigo having [[spoiler: Quincy powers]]? They awakened when Quilge's reiatsu, after Ichigo exhausted his reiryoku trying to break out of "The Jail", [[spoiler: was absorbed by Ichigo which awakened Ichigo's Quincy powers at their very roots.]] In other words, Kubo used the same explanation he did to explain Ichigo having Shinigami powers to explain Ichigo's [[spoiler: Quincy powers]].
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* More on the revelation of [[spoiler: Masaki being a Quincy and Ichigo having Quincy powers.]] Very early on in the series, Zangetsu explained to Ichigo that, while Ichigo did lose the Shinigami powers Rukia gave him, he still had his own dormant Shinigami powers that Rukia's reiatsu awakened. How did Juha Bach Yhwach explain Ichigo having [[spoiler: Quincy powers]]? They awakened when Quilge's reiatsu, after Ichigo exhausted his reiryoku trying to break out of "The Jail", [[spoiler: was absorbed by Ichigo which awakened Ichigo's Quincy powers at their very roots.]] In other words, Kubo used the same explanation he did to explain Ichigo having Shinigami powers to explain Ichigo's [[spoiler: Quincy powers]].

* So in this arc, we learn that Juha Bach has taken a special interest in [[spoiler:Uryu]] because of the fact that [[spoiler:he's the only Gemischt (mixed-ancestry) Quincy who survived Selektion. You know who else we found out is Gemischt Quincy, who also evidently survived the Selektion process? Ichigo.]]
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* So in this arc, we learn that Juha Bach Yhwach has taken a special interest in [[spoiler:Uryu]] because of the fact that [[spoiler:he's the only Gemischt (mixed-ancestry) Quincy who survived Selektion. You know who else we found out is Gemischt Quincy, who also evidently survived the Selektion process? Ichigo.]]

*** Also, it's possible that they can't steal the bankai of the Visoreds. [[spoiler:Yamamoto's bankai, Zanka no Tachi, concentrated his flames into his sword and Juha Bach stole it anyway, but none of the visoreds have lost their bankai yet.]]
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*** Also, it's possible that they can't steal the bankai of the Visoreds. [[spoiler:Yamamoto's bankai, Zanka no Tachi, concentrated his flames into his sword and Juha Bach Yhwach stole it anyway, but none of the visoreds have lost their bankai yet.]]

** He's MORE than 1,000 years old. The first war with Juha Bach happened 1,000 years ago, and he was already middle-aged and bankai capable then, so he was several centuries old when he became the Captain-Commander.
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** He's MORE than 1,000 years old. The first war with Juha Bach Yhwach happened 1,000 years ago, and he was already middle-aged and bankai capable then, so he was several centuries old when he became the Captain-Commander.

* [[spoiler: The fact that Juha Bach can control whether he can steal powers from his Quincy brethren]], this puts a creepy, new perspective into the death of a few of the Vandenreich.
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* [[spoiler: The fact that Juha Bach Yhwach can control whether he can steal powers from his Quincy brethren]], this puts a creepy, new perspective into the death of a few of the Vandenreich.

* Everyone has been saying that the Vandenreich curb-stomped Soul Society, and in a way they did, but...how big a victory was it really? Vandenreich started the battle with approx 18-20 Sternritter, counting Juha Bach, both Lloyds, and Kirge Opie; they had stolen 1 bankai. Soul Society started with 13 captains, and Ichigo (& co.) in HM. Zaraki killed 3 sternritter. Yamamoto killed 1, and since that guy had the stolen bankai the quincy presumably lost it when he died. Then he killed the three who tried to jump him, and Royd Lloyd, the other Yourself. Then Bach stole Yama's bankai and killed him. In HM Opie got cut in half and Ichigo got to Soul Society as reinforcements, and the sternritter retreated. During the battle they stole 4 other bankai, too. BUT, two of the sternritter who stole bankai were killed killed by Yamamotot, so we assume that those bankai were lost too. All in all the only important Shinigami who actually was Yamamoto, and Soul society has info on how the quincy work to prepare for next time. Meanwhile, the quincy lost a minimum of NINE (Kenpachi's 3 + the Overkill + Yama's 3+ the Yourself+ Kirge Opie=9) sternritter and come out with a total of 3 banks, instead of the potential 6 they could have had. Plus, the changes caused by Yama's death will only make things worse for the quincy in the next battle, as the powered up fighters return to the field.
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* Everyone has been saying that the Vandenreich curb-stomped Soul Society, and in a way they did, but...how big a victory was it really? Vandenreich started the battle with approx 18-20 Sternritter, counting Juha Bach, Yhwach, both Lloyds, and Kirge Opie; they had stolen 1 bankai. Soul Society started with 13 captains, and Ichigo (& co.) in HM. Zaraki killed 3 sternritter. Yamamoto killed 1, and since that guy had the stolen bankai the quincy presumably lost it when he died. Then he killed the three who tried to jump him, and Royd Lloyd, the other Yourself. Then Bach stole Yama's bankai and killed him. In HM Opie got cut in half and Ichigo got to Soul Society as reinforcements, and the sternritter retreated. During the battle they stole 4 other bankai, too. BUT, two of the sternritter who stole bankai were killed killed by Yamamotot, so we assume that those bankai were lost too. All in all the only important Shinigami who actually was Yamamoto, and Soul society has info on how the quincy work to prepare for next time. Meanwhile, the quincy lost a minimum of NINE (Kenpachi's 3 + the Overkill + Yama's 3+ the Yourself+ Kirge Opie=9) sternritter and come out with a total of 3 banks, instead of the potential 6 they could have had. Plus, the changes caused by Yama's death will only make things worse for the quincy in the next battle, as the powered up fighters return to the field.
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