History Fridge / Bleach

13th Jan '18 3:19:09 PM thatsnumberwang
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** That would be a very big deal if hollows could recover their hearts to the point that it never being mentioned in the entire run of the show/book is proof in itself that they can't. In my opinion, Nel's Hollow Hole is in the center of one of her breasts. Think about it: What is the most noticeable physical difference between a girl and a woman? What does she lose when she is stuck as a child? Its symbolism, one that Kubo probably couldn't get away with due to censorship.
13th Jan '18 2:43:17 PM thatsnumberwang
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** Well Gin's Shinso isn't that big either, sure it can extend but its normal size is not much bigger than a knife

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** Well Gin's Shinso isn't that big either, sure it can extend but its normal size is not much bigger than a knifeknife.
** Is Hanotaro's popularity with women a mystery though? He is cute, well-mannered, good-natured, reasonably intelligent, loyal, and is far braver than he at first appears. He is actually quite a catch.
3rd Jan '18 6:18:49 AM Ivaryna
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** If it was "all families adopt" Yoruichi and her brother or Ichigo and Kaien wouldn't look alike, so its only the Rukongai people/actual dead people who can't reproduce. So it's EITHER just those with low Reiatsu that can't reproduce and formerly human souls like Rukia and Renji CAN because they have Reiatsu or it's got something do to with Rukia being adopted into the Kuchiki Clan. (Or you're right and its bad writing.)
28th Dec '17 11:48:11 AM markband
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* This is bothering the hell out of me but how can Renji and Rukia have a kid? Does Kubo just forget the shit he writes about in the beginning of the series? First, they're ghost/souls/spirits and thus incapable of biological reproduction (their bodies are just solidified spirit energy in soul society and a giga is just a lifelike marionette.) Next, all families in soul society adopt the children. while the souls of family members may be together if they died around the same time, all children in soul society are usually adopted. Problem is that the kid is clearly meant to be their biological child as she has Renji's hair style and color with Rukia's features. What the hell?
16th Sep '17 7:31:22 AM darksoul4242
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** It's even more brilliant when you consider Yamamoto's words about Ichigo's bankai. Yamamoto himself claims that, because Ichigo only got his bankai recently, his bankai still has plenty of room to evolve, and that's why the Vandenreich couldn't [[spoiler:steal it]]. It's not just a case of the bankai fitting the owner's needs,it's also the case of Ichigo having an incomplete bankai!

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** It's even more brilliant when you consider Yamamoto's words about Ichigo's bankai. Yamamoto himself claims that, because Ichigo only got his bankai recently, his bankai still has plenty of room to evolve, and that's why the Vandenreich couldn't [[spoiler:steal it]]. It's not just a case of the bankai fitting the owner's needs,it's needs, it's also the a case of Ichigo having an incomplete bankai!
16th Sep '17 7:19:22 AM darksoul4242
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** It also explains WHY no Shinigami ever heard of the "Kurosaki" name even though Isshin is a former Captain...
16th Sep '17 7:15:55 AM darksoul4242
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** Possibly heading into WMG territory, but since the latest arc showed that Ichigo's "true" Zanpakuto is a DualWield that represents aspects of both his Shinigami/Hollow and Quincy powers, it's possible that while "Zangetsu" may not be the actual Zanpakuto ''per say'', he's still deeply connected to it. He's shown using those powers in order to teach Ichigo, even though they weren't his. Maybe Ichigo's "true zanpakuto" is actually an amalgamation, with the Old Man and the Hollow being representations of that, sort of like Kyoraku and Ukitake's swords? Alternatively, maybe the Old Man just thought it would be a bad idea if the Hollow/Zanpakuto was set loose with absolutely no way to reign him in. After all, the Hollow's deepest desire is to apparently murder and consume all of Ichigo's loved ones (if you believe he was being truthful), making a "freed" version FridgeHorror in itself.

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** Possibly heading into WMG territory, but since the latest arc showed that Ichigo's "true" Zanpakuto is a DualWield that represents aspects of both his Shinigami/Hollow and Quincy powers, it's possible that while "Zangetsu" may not be the actual Zanpakuto ''per say'', he's still deeply connected to it. He's shown using those powers in order to teach Ichigo, even though they weren't his. Maybe Ichigo's "true zanpakuto" is actually an amalgamation, with the Old Man and the Hollow being representations of that, sort of like Kyoraku and Ukitake's swords? Alternatively, maybe the Old Man just thought it would be a bad idea if the Hollow/Zanpakuto was set loose with absolutely no way to reign rein him in. After all, the Hollow's deepest desire is to apparently murder and consume all of Ichigo's loved ones (if you believe he was being truthful), making a "freed" version FridgeHorror in itself.
16th Sep '17 7:11:55 AM darksoul4242
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* So in this arc, we learn that Yhwach has taken a special interest in [[spoiler:Uryu]] because of the fact that [[spoiler:he's the only Gemischt (mixed-ancestry) Quincy who survived Selektion. You know who else we found out is Gemischt Quincy, who also evidently survived the Selektion process? Ichigo.]]

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* So in this arc, we learn that Yhwach has taken a special interest in [[spoiler:Uryu]] because of the fact that [[spoiler:he's the only Gemischt (mixed-ancestry) Quincy who survived Selektion. You know who else we found out is a Gemischt Quincy, who also evidently survived the Selektion process? Ichigo.]]



* Hm... In 588, the [[BewareTheSillyOnes until then quirky and cute]] Giselle flies into a rage when Yumichika accuses her of being CreepyCrossdresser because she reeks of semen. This can easily seen, however, as Yumi SlutShaming Giselle (because a heterosexual/bisexual woman wouldn't likely smell of semen unless she was sleeping around recently), and/or as him [[spoiler: discovering that she was carrying Bambietta's zombified corpse around; since Bambietta ''did'' have sex with a guy a little before the invasion, it's likely that '''she''' (or better said, her zombified body) was reeking of semen, not Giselle]]. With these details in consideration, Giselle [[LetsGetDangerous going completely serious]] can potentially take a '''completely''' new meaning: in two {{Armor Piercing Question}}s Yumichika misgendered her, caller her a slut, ''and'' [[spoiler: uncovered her secret and probably most powerful weapon.]] Let's see if it's confirmed or {{jossed}}.

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* Hm... In 588, the [[BewareTheSillyOnes until then quirky and cute]] Giselle flies into a rage when Yumichika accuses her of being a CreepyCrossdresser because she reeks of semen. This can easily seen, however, as Yumi SlutShaming Giselle (because a heterosexual/bisexual woman wouldn't likely smell of semen unless she was sleeping around recently), and/or as him [[spoiler: discovering that she was carrying Bambietta's zombified corpse around; since Bambietta ''did'' have sex with a guy a little before the invasion, it's likely that '''she''' (or better said, her zombified body) was reeking of semen, not Giselle]]. With these details in consideration, Giselle [[LetsGetDangerous going completely serious]] can potentially take a '''completely''' new meaning: in two {{Armor Piercing Question}}s Yumichika misgendered her, caller her a slut, ''and'' [[spoiler: uncovered her secret and probably most powerful weapon.]] Let's see if it's confirmed or {{jossed}}.



* All of Yhwach's incredible powers begin to make sense with the revelation that [[spoiler:he is the son of the Soul King]]. He is able to bring out the latent powers of the Stern Ritter through the Schrift, just as the Soul King was able to bestow the Squad Zero members with the Ouken, only the Soul King can also bestow abilities relating to the title he gives the Squad Zero members ("Hot Spring Demon" Kirinji can manipulate his hot spring waters in battle; "King of Grains" Hikifune can grow things from her own body such as the '''Cage of Life'''; "The Monk Who Calls The True Name" Ichibei has power over "Names" that even allows him to heal himself when someone calls his name). While the Soul King's scope of power is not known outside of him being the "linchpin" of all of reality, one can see how [[spoiler:Yhwach is his son]].
** On a related note, there's Yhwach's Schrift, [[spoiler:The Almighty]]. It gives His Majesty [[StoryBreakerPower the utterly devastating, eight ways from Sunday ability]] to [[AdaptiveAbility effectively shut down anything that's been thrown at him]] so long as he has seen it and comprehended the full scale of his opponent's powers. With this in mind, the Vandenreich's interest in three of the known Special War Powers is understandable, as Yhwach knew ''nothing'' about the full extent of their powers: Kenpachi had yet to learn his Zanpakuto's name at the time and thus achieve Shikai or Bankai, Aizen--assuming the Hogyoku were to miraculously start working for him again--could continually evolve to counteract Yhwach's "omnipotence"/"omniscience," and Ichigo, [[ShonenUpgrade being]] [[HeinzHybrid Ichigo]], is a being like no other, one whose very existence almost defies all logic. Comparatively, Yamamoto was excluded from this list not only because he had grown soft(er) in the intervening 1000 years, but because Yhwach knew every trick the Head Captain was capable of, allowing him to NoSell like there's no tomorrow.

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* All of Yhwach's incredible powers begin to make sense with the revelation that [[spoiler:he is the son of the Soul King]]. He is able to bring out the latent powers of the Stern Ritter through the Schrift, just as the Soul King was able to bestow the Squad Zero members with the Ouken, only the Soul King can also bestow abilities relating to the title he gives the Squad Zero members ("Hot Spring Demon" Kirinji can manipulate his hot spring waters in battle; "King of Grains" Hikifune can grow things from her own body such as the '''Cage of Life'''; "The Monk Who Calls The True Name" Ichibei has power over "Names" that even allows him to heal himself when someone calls his name). While the Soul King's scope of power is not known outside of him being the "linchpin" "lynchpin" of all of reality, one can see how [[spoiler:Yhwach is his son]].
** On a related note, there's Yhwach's Schrift, [[spoiler:The Almighty]]. It gives His Majesty [[StoryBreakerPower the utterly devastating, eight ways from Sunday ability]] to [[AdaptiveAbility effectively shut down anything that's been thrown at him]] so long as he has seen it and comprehended the full scale of his opponent's powers. With this in mind, the Vandenreich's interest in three of the known Special War Powers is understandable, as Yhwach knew ''nothing'' about the full extent of their powers: Kenpachi had yet to learn his Zanpakuto's name at the time and thus achieve Shikai or Bankai, Aizen--assuming the Hogyoku were to miraculously start working for him again--could continually evolve to counteract Yhwach's "omnipotence"/"omniscience," and Ichigo, [[ShonenUpgrade being]] [[HeinzHybrid Ichigo]], is a being like no other, one whose very existence almost defies all logic. Comparatively, Yamamoto was excluded from this list not only because he had grown soft(er) in the intervening 1000 years, but because Yhwach knew every trick the Head Captain was capable of, allowing him to NoSell him like there's no tomorrow.



* Gremmy Thoumeaux [[spoiler: died because He tried to imagine himself as stronger than Kenpachi. ]] this is actually justified. Kenpachi's [[spoiler: bankai constantly increases his strength with no defined limit. It's only weakness is Kenpachi himself starts to break down because his body can't handle it. ''Kenpachi'' can't handle the full strength of ''his own bankai''. No wonder Gremmy died. He literally tried to imagine himself stronger than infinity.]]

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* Gremmy Thoumeaux [[spoiler: died because He tried to imagine himself as stronger than Kenpachi. ]] this This is actually justified. Kenpachi's [[spoiler: bankai constantly increases his strength with no defined limit. It's only weakness is Kenpachi himself starts to break down because his body can't handle it. ''Kenpachi'' can't handle the full strength of ''his own bankai''. No wonder Gremmy died. He literally tried to imagine himself stronger than infinity.]]
16th Sep '17 7:02:43 AM darksoul4242
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* A common complaint amongst fans has long been that Ichigo's training seems to bring greater results than others get from theirs, the most common argument being that the Shinigami have trained for over a hundred years at the least, and Ichigo only half a year.[[spoiler: This makes perfect sense after the revelation of Zangetsu's true identity. The nature of Ichigo's power was, from the very beginning, closer to an Arrancar's than a Shinigami's. Shinigami bond and develop their zanpakuto, and grow along with it, achieving more and more power as they grow. Arrancar seal off their full power, and simply release more and more of it rather than grow with it, the exact opposite of what Shinigami do, in precisely the same way that Zangetsu has always sealed off Ichigo's true reiatsu, and only given him as much as he needed at any given time. He's exactly like an Arrancar who's control over their power was governed by a split personality!]]

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* A common complaint amongst fans has long been that Ichigo's training seems to bring greater results than others get from theirs, the most common argument being that the Shinigami have trained for over a hundred years at the least, and Ichigo only half a year.[[spoiler: This makes perfect sense after the revelation of Zangetsu's true identity. The nature of Ichigo's power was, from the very beginning, closer to an Arrancar's than a Shinigami's. Shinigami bond and develop their zanpakuto, and grow along with it, achieving more and more power as they grow. Arrancar seal off their full power, and simply release more and more of it rather than grow with it, the exact opposite of what Shinigami do, in precisely the same way that Zangetsu has always sealed off Ichigo's true reiatsu, and only given him as much as he needed at any given time. He's exactly like an Arrancar who's whose control over their power was governed by a split personality!]]
13th Sep '17 12:19:26 AM darksoul4242
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* A bit of FridgeBrilliance from reading Chapter 461. It explained why ''Rukia's'' actions in the beginning were illegal! Why would transferring one's powers to a human be illegal unless it had done before? Laws are rarely made preemptively. To me, it made the whole series make more sense.
** Fridge brilliance is an accidental interpretation but Kubo's set this information up for a long time so it's not really fridge brilliance, it's more a case of tying up loose ends or at least answering questions some fans have had for a very long time: In Chapter 1, Rukia knew this method of transferring power to a human existed, so it was obvious even then that there had to be a history of it happening. The fact it was against the law simply reinforced that notion. Then there was Ukitake at the end of the Soul Society arc when he gave the substitute badge to Ichigo, telling him it was given to any substitute that proved useful to Soul Society and the badge was invisible to humans because it was dangerous in the wrong human's hands. That immediately told us that Ichigo wasn't their first substitute and it even inferred that they must have had substitutes that didn't prove useful as well as proving useful. Then there's the idea of actually knowing that a substitute's badge is a problem if it falls into the wrong hands, suggesting that it's happened in the past for them to know about it. Yes, Kubo's given a lot of information for fans to ask questions about for a very long time. It's nice to see him addressing it at last.

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* A bit of FridgeBrilliance from reading Chapter 461. It explained why ''Rukia's'' actions in the beginning were illegal! Why would transferring one's powers to a human be illegal unless it had been done before? Laws are rarely made preemptively. To me, it made the whole series make more sense.
** Fridge brilliance is an accidental interpretation but Kubo's set this information up for a long time so it's not really fridge brilliance, it's more a case of tying up loose ends or at least answering questions some fans have had for a very long time: In Chapter 1, Rukia knew this method of transferring power to a human existed, so it was obvious even then that there had to be a history of it happening. The fact it was against the law simply reinforced that notion. Then there was Ukitake at the end of the Soul Society arc when he gave the substitute badge to Ichigo, telling him it was given to any substitute that proved useful to Soul Society and the badge was invisible to humans because it was dangerous in the wrong human's hands. That immediately told us that Ichigo wasn't their first substitute and it even inferred that they must have had substitutes that didn't prove useful useful, as well as others proving useful. Then there's the idea of actually knowing that a substitute's badge is a problem if it falls into the wrong hands, suggesting that it's happened in the past for them to know about it. Yes, Kubo's given a lot of information for fans to ask questions about for a very long time. It's nice to see him addressing it at last.



* In the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc, Nanao meets the materialized spirit of [[spoiler: Kyokotsu, one of the two spirits of Shunsui Kyoraku's Zanpakuto, Katen Kyokotsu,]] and forms a friendly relationship with her. How is this Fridge Brilliance? [[spoiler: Kyokotsu was created by her "sister", Katen, to house Nanao's Zanpakuto! Nanao was essientially hanging out with her own Zanpakuto Spirit!]]

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* In the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc, Nanao meets the materialized spirit of [[spoiler: Kyokotsu, one of the two spirits of Shunsui Kyoraku's Zanpakuto, Katen Kyokotsu,]] and forms a friendly relationship with her. How is this Fridge Brilliance? [[spoiler: Kyokotsu was created by her "sister", Katen, to house Nanao's Zanpakuto! Nanao was essientially essentially hanging out with her own Zanpakuto Spirit!]]



* The reason why Ikkaku was never forced to become captain along with Renji right after Aizen's betrayal is because Yama's lieutenant is exactly the same as them. [[spoiler: Yama's lieutenant, Sasakibe actually ''knows'' Bankai, but never took a captain's position]] because he strictly kept his loyalty to Yama and no one else. Yama is no idiot. He would've known Ikkaku had Bankai, but because he was strictly loyal to Kenpachi, he respected his wish because he has a lieutenant who is exactly the same.

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* The reason why Ikkaku was never forced to become a captain along with Renji right after Aizen's betrayal is because Yama's lieutenant is exactly the same as them. [[spoiler: Yama's lieutenant, Sasakibe actually ''knows'' Bankai, but never took a captain's position]] because he strictly kept his loyalty to Yama and no one else. Yama is no idiot. He would've known Ikkaku had Bankai, but because he was strictly loyal to Kenpachi, he respected his wish because he has a lieutenant who is exactly the same.
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