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10th Nov '15 4:33:46 PM EmperorZim
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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint ...You lost me.]]
12th Jul '15 3:38:16 PM Fireblood
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* In ''15 Million Merits'', people who are fat are discriminated, as they do no exercise and do not power up the screens that everyone uses. Because of this, they are given either menial jobs such as cleaning, or are made to appear on TV where they are abused for the entertainment of those watching. Oh, and you can shoot them in computer games. So to sum up, the people who are considered to be a waste to society are abused on TV as entertainment and given menial jobs where they suffer everyday. Sound familiar?

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* In ''15 Million Merits'', people who are fat are discriminated, discriminated against, as they do no exercise and do not power up the screens that everyone uses. Because of this, they are given either menial jobs such as cleaning, or are made to appear on TV where they are abused for the entertainment of those watching. Oh, and you can shoot them in computer games. So to sum up, the people who are considered to be a waste to society are abused on TV as entertainment and given menial jobs where they suffer everyday. Sound familiar?



*** He did mean what he was saying: It was largely unplanned, and he countered one of the judges when he described it as an "act". The problem was that he had no plan beyond saying it, and the judges were "swayed", but not in the way he was expecting. They then decide to ''let him'' say all that stuff and even put it in a timeslot, while the crowd goads him into doing it. Regardless of whether it was true or not, or was a genuine tirade against the entertainment industry, a simple rant isn't going to change the system, but it's more likely the system will [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan assimilate the person doing it.]] [[spoiler:Bing clearly feels as unfulfilled in his new role as he was on the bikes.]] That's what the scenes were meant to illustrate.

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*** He did mean what he was saying: It it was largely unplanned, and he countered one of the judges when he described it as an "act". The problem was that he had no plan beyond saying it, and the judges were "swayed", but not in the way he was expecting. They then decide to ''let him'' say all that stuff and even put it in a timeslot, while the crowd goads him into doing it. Regardless of whether it was true or not, or was a genuine tirade against the entertainment industry, a simple rant isn't going to change the system, but it's more likely the system will [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan assimilate the person doing it.]] [[spoiler:Bing clearly feels as unfulfilled in his new role as he was on the bikes.]] That's what the scenes were meant to illustrate.



* In ''Be Right Back'' why didn't Martha just [[spoiler: call the company that made Ash and have him taken away, rather than telling him to literally jump off a cliff.]]

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* In ''Be Right Back'' why didn't Martha just [[spoiler: call the company that made Ash and have him taken away, rather than telling him to literally jump off a cliff.]]cliff?]]



* FridgeBrilliance time (and crosses into FridgeHorror as per this show's norm): in ''The White Bear'' the Observers are initially set up as brainwashed masses who do nothing but give the "hunters" an audience under the infulence of some malignant signal. [[spoiler: After the reveal it's made clear that the "observers" are just extras from the public put there to enhance the terrifying experience for the condemned as well as, which is outlined in the last few minutes, to "have fun." Meaning they are there willingly, doing pretty much what their characters are doing, the only difference is they have free will and are doing it ''for fun.'']] This makes the already blunt TakeThat of the Observers that little bit more sinister.
* Fridge Logic: In the UK (Where judging by the accents, we assume the ''White Bear'' episode is set), the government actually signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture bill, which would forbid them of practising torture of this calibre. If they broke this bill, the convention and its subsequent nations would intervene very, very swiftly, meaning the White Bear Justic Park wouldn't exist without serious argument with other countries...

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* FridgeBrilliance time (and crosses into FridgeHorror as per this show's norm): in ''The White Bear'' the Observers are initially set up as brainwashed masses who do nothing but give the "hunters" an audience under the infulence influence of some malignant signal. [[spoiler: After the reveal it's made clear that the "observers" are just extras from the public put there to enhance the terrifying experience for the condemned as well as, which is outlined in the last few minutes, to "have fun." Meaning they are there willingly, doing pretty much what their characters are doing, the only difference is they have free will and are doing it ''for fun.'']] This makes the already blunt TakeThat of the Observers that little bit more sinister.
* Fridge Logic: In the UK (Where (where judging by the accents, we assume the ''White Bear'' episode is set), the government actually signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture bill, Torture, which would forbid them of practising torture of this calibre. If they broke this bill, the convention and convention, its subsequent nations would intervene very, very swiftly, meaning the White Bear Justic Justice Park wouldn't exist without serious argument with other countries...



* A pretty simple one, but I only realized it later. In the Christmas Special, Greta complains that her toast is overdone and sends it back, although she (or her cookie's internal monologue, or both -- it's not clear which) worries that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her. She's exactly the sort of person who ''would'' want a "cookie" to micromanage her environment for her. (Also, she worries about clearing her inbox. Maybe the "cookie" takes care of that too?) And of course this is emphasized by Matt getting Cookie!Greta to try controlling the toaster and then eating the toast throughout their conversation. Also, considering the fact she worried that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her, does she really understand how "cookies" work, and does she ever worry if her "cookie" hates her?

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* A pretty simple one, but I only realized it later. In the Christmas Special, Greta complains that her toast is overdone and sends it back, although she (or her cookie's internal monologue, or both -- it's not clear which) worries that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her. She's exactly the sort of person who ''would'' want a "cookie" to micromanage her environment for her. (Also, her (also, she worries about clearing her inbox. Maybe the "cookie" takes care of that too?) too?). And of course this is emphasized by Matt getting Cookie!Greta to try controlling the toaster and then eating the toast throughout their conversation. Also, considering the fact she worried that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her, does she really understand how "cookies" work, and does she ever worry if her "cookie" hates her?
16th Jan '15 3:43:22 AM ProMole
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** It doesn't need to be connected to anything, if the wheels are constructed in a certain fashion with magnetic material and the base has an electric circuit, then it could be an induction generator, and any other work consequence of the activity can just be connected to the base, hidden wires and all(or, why not, wirelessly; it's the future!) Going into the nitty-gritty of how much power a human being can actually generate as such will probably not wield very impressive values, though, so we enter "Matrix's giant human battery" territory: the message is more important than the factual nature of the mechanism.
13th Jan '15 2:51:23 AM robinjohnson
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** Astonishingly, there's currently some fairly clouty tabloid-led opposition to human rights legislation in the UK, so getting out of those treaties in the near future is sadly one of the least implausible things in Black Mirror.
7th Jan '15 10:58:33 AM mynameislegion
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*** He did mean what he was saying: It was largely unplanned, and he countered one of the judges when he described it as an "act". The problem was that he had no plan beyond saying it, and the judges were "swayed", but not in the way he was expecting. They then decide to ''let him'' say all that stuff and even put it in a timeslot, while the crowd goads him into doing it. Regardless of whether it was true or not, or was a genuine tirade against the entertainment industry, a simple rant isn't going to change the system, but it's more likely the system will assimilate the person doing it. [[spoiler:Bing clearly feels as unfulfilled in his new role as he was on the bikes.]] That's what the scenes were meant to illustrate.

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*** He did mean what he was saying: It was largely unplanned, and he countered one of the judges when he described it as an "act". The problem was that he had no plan beyond saying it, and the judges were "swayed", but not in the way he was expecting. They then decide to ''let him'' say all that stuff and even put it in a timeslot, while the crowd goads him into doing it. Regardless of whether it was true or not, or was a genuine tirade against the entertainment industry, a simple rant isn't going to change the system, but it's more likely the system will [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan assimilate the person doing it. it.]] [[spoiler:Bing clearly feels as unfulfilled in his new role as he was on the bikes.]] That's what the scenes were meant to illustrate.
3rd Jan '15 9:43:22 AM mynameislegion
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* The name "cookie" itself: it has been named after [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie#Uses browser cookies]]. You know, the ones that websites use to build a profile of your online activities and personalise all content delivered to you. Black Mirror's cookies are this very idea taken to its LogicalExtreme.

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** Since Matt has to explain how cookies work ''to Greta's cookie'', and that [[spoiler:cookies are shown to preserve memories of their hosts]], it is implied that Greta doesn't know; moreover, given that he explains it ''to Potter'', it seems to be a quite closely guarded trade secret.
* The name "cookie" itself: it has been named it's after [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie#Uses browser cookies]]. You know, the ones that websites use to build a profile of your online activities and personalise all content delivered to you. Black Mirror's Smartelligence's cookies are this very idea taken to its LogicalExtreme.
3rd Jan '15 9:32:42 AM mynameislegion
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* A pretty simple one, but I only realized it later. In the Christmas Special, Greta complains that her toast is overdone and sends it back, although she (or her cookie's internal monologue, more exactly) worries that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her. She's exactly the sort of person who ''would'' want a "cookie" to micromanage her environment for her. (Also, she worries about clearing her inbox. Maybe the "cookie" takes care of that too?) And of course this is emphasized by Matt getting Cookie!Greta to try controlling the toaster and then eating the toast throughout their conversation. Also, considering the fact she worried that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her, does she really understand how "cookies" work, and does she ever worry if her "cookie" hates her?

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* A pretty simple one, but I only realized it later. In the Christmas Special, Greta complains that her toast is overdone and sends it back, although she (or her cookie's internal monologue, more exactly) or both -- it's not clear which) worries that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her. She's exactly the sort of person who ''would'' want a "cookie" to micromanage her environment for her. (Also, she worries about clearing her inbox. Maybe the "cookie" takes care of that too?) And of course this is emphasized by Matt getting Cookie!Greta to try controlling the toaster and then eating the toast throughout their conversation. Also, considering the fact she worried that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her, does she really understand how "cookies" work, and does she ever worry if her "cookie" hates her?her?
* The name "cookie" itself: it has been named after [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie#Uses browser cookies]]. You know, the ones that websites use to build a profile of your online activities and personalise all content delivered to you. Black Mirror's cookies are this very idea taken to its LogicalExtreme.
1st Jan '15 8:43:49 PM Lullabee
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* At the end of "White Bear", Baxter says it will take about half an hour to erase Victoria's memory of the day. She apparently spends the entire half hour in excruciating pain. If around 12 hours have passed since she woke up (which seems a reasonable estimate), then the device takes roughly an hour to erase 24 hours' worth of memories. Based on that ratio, Victoria may have spent over a ''year'' in agony having her twentysomething (or more) years wiped ''before her sentence even began''.

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* At the end of "White Bear", Baxter says it will take about half an hour to erase Victoria's memory of the day. She apparently spends the entire half hour in excruciating pain. If around 12 hours have passed since she woke up (which seems a reasonable estimate), then the device takes roughly an hour to erase 24 hours' worth of memories. Based on that ratio, Victoria may have spent over a ''year'' in agony having her twentysomething (or more) years wiped ''before her sentence even began''.began''.
* A pretty simple one, but I only realized it later. In the Christmas Special, Greta complains that her toast is overdone and sends it back, although she (or her cookie's internal monologue, more exactly) worries that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her. She's exactly the sort of person who ''would'' want a "cookie" to micromanage her environment for her. (Also, she worries about clearing her inbox. Maybe the "cookie" takes care of that too?) And of course this is emphasized by Matt getting Cookie!Greta to try controlling the toaster and then eating the toast throughout their conversation. Also, considering the fact she worried that the woman who brought her breakfast will hate her, does she really understand how "cookies" work, and does she ever worry if her "cookie" hates her?
24th Dec '14 8:02:23 PM NotGodot
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** According to Brooker, they at most run the screens and it's more about preserving social structure and keeping people busy than actually producing any power.
9th Dec '14 5:17:22 PM FierceArtist
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*** He did mean what he was saying: It was largely unplanned, and he countered one of the judges when he described it as an "act". The problem was that he had no plan beyond saying it, and the judges were "swayed", but not in the way he was expecting. They then decide to ''let him'' say all that stuff and even put it in a timeslot, while the crowd goads him into doing it. Regardless of whether it was true or not, or was a genuine tirade against the entertainment industry, a simple rant isn't going to change the system, but it's more likely the system will assimilate the person doing it. [[spoiler:Bing clearly feels as unfulfilled in his new role as he was on the bikes.]] That's what the scenes were meant to illustrate.
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