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17th Mar '16 8:51:28 AM ObsidianFire
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* Even more: On the surface, ''[=BioShock=] 2'' seems like it just exchanged a Libertarian Objectivist villain for an Authoritarian Collectivist. Bit shallow, right? Especially given Levine's statement that the game's real message wasn't specifically anti-Objectivist, but that mankind's ideas of what makes a perfect society fail because we're still only human. Now think back to Sophia Lamb's philosophy and goals: "Utopia cannot precede the utopian." Her plan was to genetically reengineer everyone into "utopians", who lacked the inherent flaws of human nature. ''[[GenreSavvy She took Levine's message, and applied it!]]'' And, guess what, that failed too. She's as much a rebuttal to the ''real'' message of the first game as the superficial one. - Tropers/ThePocket

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* Even more: On the surface, ''[=BioShock=] 2'' seems like it just exchanged a Libertarian Objectivist villain for an Authoritarian Collectivist. Bit shallow, right? Especially given Levine's statement that the game's real message wasn't specifically anti-Objectivist, but that mankind's ideas of what makes a perfect society fail because we're still only human. Now think back to Sophia Lamb's philosophy and goals: "Utopia cannot precede the utopian." Her plan was to genetically reengineer everyone into "utopians", who lacked the inherent flaws of human nature. ''[[GenreSavvy She ''She took Levine's message, and applied it!]]'' it!'' And, guess what, that failed too. She's as much a rebuttal to the ''real'' message of the first game as the superficial one. - Tropers/ThePocket
30th Jan '16 9:08:15 AM nombretomado
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* Frank Fontaine seems to just have a normal name until you go back to [[SystemShock2 System Shock 2]], which has a character named [[spoiler:Prefontaine]]. Once you realize what that means, it's a clever reference.

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* Frank Fontaine seems to just have a normal name until you go back to [[SystemShock2 System Shock 2]], ''VideoGame/SystemShock2'', which has a character named [[spoiler:Prefontaine]]. Once you realize what that means, it's a clever reference.
30th Jan '16 9:07:53 AM nombretomado
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** I think the page for the game argues that this is probably intentional. This is a game that was previewed as being relatively open ala VideoGame/DeusEx or [SystemShock] and the big reveal is that you've had no freedom the entire time (and you'll continue to have no freedom, as Tennebaum has you do her will after you kill Ryan).

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** I think the page for the game argues that this is probably intentional. This is a game that was previewed as being relatively open ala VideoGame/DeusEx or [SystemShock] VideoGame/SystemShock and the big reveal is that you've had no freedom the entire time (and you'll continue to have no freedom, as Tennebaum has you do her will after you kill Ryan).
1st Dec '15 11:06:40 PM Nohbody
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** Love this theory, though it could conflict with the timeline. According to the ''Franchise/{{BioShock}}'' Wiki, Sofia Lamb met Gil and began experimenting on him around 1960; which is also, of course, the year that Jack lands in Rapture. Given that we see Sander Cohen fine and well (relatively speaking...) during the events of ''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 BioShock 1]]'', he likely wasn't involved in the experiment. If you consider the numerous achievements you can get by killing him canonical, then that also eliminates any chance of his participation after Jack leaves Rapture. This is even assuming he'd be willing to take part in a scientific experiment at all, given how he was so devoted to his quadtych masterpieces and other, um...artistic endeavours.

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** Love this theory, though it could conflict with the timeline. According to the ''Franchise/{{BioShock}}'' ''[=BioShock=]'' Wiki, Sofia Lamb met Gil and began experimenting on him around 1960; which is also, of course, the year that Jack lands in Rapture. Given that we see Sander Cohen fine and well (relatively speaking...) during the events of ''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 BioShock 1]]'', he likely wasn't involved in the experiment. If you consider the numerous achievements you can get by killing him canonical, then that also eliminates any chance of his participation after Jack leaves Rapture. This is even assuming he'd be willing to take part in a scientific experiment at all, given how he was so devoted to his quadtych masterpieces and other, um...artistic endeavours.
23rd Sep '15 12:18:04 AM Mr.Bubbles
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* Why is there such a massive imbalance of girls to boys among Rapture's children? Rapture is a society built on genetic engineering. It isn't understood why, but young girls are the only suitable hosts for the ADAM-producing sea slugs. Ryan eventually utilized some kind of pheromone to help control and pacify the populace, which means either he or Fontaine could've secretly done the same with a chemical that ensured the majority of children born in the city would be girls.
14th Aug '15 10:11:45 AM MoonByte
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** This troper always thought it was mostly since you play Subject Delta: A BIG DADDY. JUst as Little Sisters, your view is not "real". It is perfectly possible that all little sisters look the same to him - like the one little sister that he was programmed to protect, Eleanor. -MoonByte
9th May '15 1:53:40 AM sailing101
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* Sophia Lamb's goal was to use Adam to create what she called a Utopian; A person who would only work for the benefit of his (or her) fellow man (or woman). However, in her obsession with her goal, she was blind to the fact that such a person already existed. A man by the name of Augustus Sinclair. His business, Sinclair Solutions, was entirely dedicated to helping other people with whatever problem they might have had. Throughout the game, Sinclair is always thinking of how to help Delta, even going so far as promising to try and find him a way to be human again. In the end, when he is captured and turned into an Alpha Series, he would rather have Delta escape with Eleanor than try and rescue him. This is a man who was entirely selfless, a true Utopian, and Sophia failed to see it.
21st Apr '15 11:38:18 AM nombretomado
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** The statues are of a character from the GreekMythology: the Titan who holds the heavens on his back. His name? Atlas.

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** The statues are of a character from the GreekMythology: Myth/GreekMythology: the Titan who holds the heavens on his back. His name? Atlas.
18th Jan '15 7:26:38 PM Gaymer
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** The game explains that the similarities are due to mutations from people who overused plasmids. It's safe to assume that similar plasmids cause similar physical mutations.
27th Dec '14 5:40:49 PM Gojirob
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*** Also, FDR didn't fight to introduce welfare. His social programs were meant to restore hope and an economic engine devastated by the unfettered excesses of men like Andrew Ryan. The New Deal they all so despised would never have come to be if the decade prior hadn't seen men like him getting their own way in almost all things.
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