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23rd May '16 6:57:55 PM Anddrix
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** WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker shows that Batman is so completely dedicated to his mission, the rest of the Batfamily members and potential lovers (Selina, Diana, Zatanna, Lois, etc.) had no other choice to abandon him. [[GrowingUpSucks They want to grow up, have families, much more of life that playing an infinite]] CycleOfRevenge that implies being the TheCowl, leaving him LonelyAtTheTop. The disturbing conclusion is that the only relationship that ever worked for Batman was the FoeRomanceSubtext SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker had with him. He was the only one capable of accepting Batman as the {{Determinator}}, and that thought is the reason Batman never speaks of him.

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** WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker shows that Batman is so completely dedicated to his mission, the rest of the Batfamily members and potential lovers (Selina, Diana, Zatanna, Lois, etc.) had no other choice to abandon him. [[GrowingUpSucks They want to grow up, have families, much more of life that playing an infinite]] CycleOfRevenge that implies being the TheCowl, leaving him LonelyAtTheTop. The disturbing conclusion is that the only relationship that ever worked for Batman was the FoeRomanceSubtext SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker had with him. He was the only one capable of accepting Batman as the {{Determinator}}, and that thought is the reason Batman never speaks of him.
11th May '16 10:26:53 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* During Joker's fight with Bruce, he misdirected Batman with his right hand while flicking the knife into his left. It's a very basic magic trick, and probably would never have worked if Batman wasn't so upset. It also symbolizes how what he did appeared to just be brainwashing Tim, but he was ''actually'' making a backup of himself.

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* During Joker's fight with Bruce, he misdirected Batman with his right hand while flicking the knife into his left. It's a very basic magic trick, and probably would never have worked if Batman wasn't so upset. It also symbolizes how what he did appeared to just be brainwashing Tim, but he was ''actually'' making a backup of himself.himself.
** If you listen closely, he even makes a joke about it. "I/eye on the other hand..."
26th Jan '16 10:00:30 AM batsyjokes
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*** But it was also shown in "Make 'Em Laugh" that the Joker ''is'' funny, at least to the citizens of Gotham, and the thing that keeps people from laughing at his jokes is the fact that he's recognized as one of the most dangerous criminals in the entire city. When he was disguised, he had the entire room in stitches. It was ''only'' when they realized he was the Joker that they didn't laugh. Although, for his second act, he revealed himself immediately, so that may not be the best gauge of his comedic talent.
19th Jan '16 9:00:48 PM Rebu
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* Joker's meltdown in response to Terry's insults becomes even more brilliant when you remember that no comedian can stand a heckler.

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* Joker's meltdown in response to Terry's insults becomes even more brilliant when you remember that no comedian can stand a heckler.heckler.
* During Joker's fight with Bruce, he misdirected Batman with his right hand while flicking the knife into his left. It's a very basic magic trick, and probably would never have worked if Batman wasn't so upset. It also symbolizes how what he did appeared to just be brainwashing Tim, but he was ''actually'' making a backup of himself.
7th Jan '16 11:38:17 AM CaptainTedium
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* Bruce Wayne falls victim to Joker's toxin at one point in the film. Given his advanced age, there's no telling how much the excessive laughter has shortened his lifespan.
28th Dec '15 3:25:15 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Unlike many of his other incarnations, [[spoiler:"Joker Beyond" doesn't get very distinctive last words -- he goes from sneering, "I can't hear you!" to "GAAAAAH!" But in between? Batman gives him a "Ha... ha." Batman got the last laugh.]]

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* Unlike many of his other incarnations, [[spoiler:"Joker Beyond" doesn't get very distinctive last words -- he goes from sneering, "I can't hear you!" to "GAAAAAH!" But in between? Batman gives him a "Ha... ha." Batman got the last laugh.]]]]
* Joker's meltdown in response to Terry's insults becomes even more brilliant when you remember that no comedian can stand a heckler.
18th Oct '15 9:11:50 AM Diseasicon1
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** [[spoiler: Joker is able to cheat death by implanting his personality on a microchip on Tim's neck. At first it seems like this was his back-up plan, just in case something went wrong. It's a lot more horrifying when you realize that he intended to kill Batman and live, and that he was planning to body-jack Tim from the beginning, and essentially grant himself a second life.]]
15th Apr '15 4:37:55 AM Anicomicgeek
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* Dean Stockwell was likely chosen for the role of an adult Tim Drake because of his background as a child actor, but the Joker connection may have been inspired by one of his earliest roles as the lead in "The Boy with Green Hair".
26th Mar '15 8:13:38 AM CasWarner
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* Dean Stockwell was likely chosen for the role of an adult Tim Drake because of his background as a child actor, but the Joker connection may have been inspired by one of his earliest roles as the lead in "The Boy with Green Hair".

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* Dean Stockwell was likely chosen for the role of an adult Tim Drake because of his background as a child actor, but the Joker connection may have been inspired by one of his earliest roles as the lead in "The Boy with Green Hair".Hair".
* Unlike many of his other incarnations, [[spoiler:"Joker Beyond" doesn't get very distinctive last words -- he goes from sneering, "I can't hear you!" to "GAAAAAH!" But in between? Batman gives him a "Ha... ha." Batman got the last laugh.]]
15th Apr '14 5:21:08 PM Kereea
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** The movie could be seen as a deconstruction of the character as a clown at all. As much as The Joker bills himself as the Clown Prince of Crime, he's not really a clown beyond his superficial gimmicks as see in the ''Batman: The Animated Series'' episode "To Be a Clown" where he impersonates a party clown: he can do some impressive "magic" tricks and slight of hand, but he never actually makes anyone laugh or find anything funny (beyond one clown-obsessed boy who is really more awed than anything). The clown thing is more a convenient theme than anything else, since despite not being ''funny'' the Joker is a competent showman in regards to getting and keeping attention and so would choose a theme to let him do that on some level. T
*** The classic clown tricks he uses as weapons, like the joybuzzer, flower, and so on, are only funny as clown tricks when ''acted'' properly, something the Joker doesn't do (he loves drama and terror too much to manage to get laughs), or with a partner who reacts, which the Joker does not have in his chosen partner of Batman. Thus showing how the Joker failed to even see how the items he was using were supposed to be thought of as funny in the first place.
*** Also, as Terry notes during his heckling, the original Batman really didn't have a sense of humor, so he had no reason to call out the Joker's tricks as not being funny since he didn't find anything funny. ''Terry'' meanwhile has a reference point and so can definitively call the Joker out as not being funny.
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