History Fridge / AtlantisTheLostEmpire

16th Jul '17 12:30:02 PM AuraXtreme
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* It seems strange that the Atlanteans can speak just about every language under the sun and then some, but can't read their own. However, when a human learns their primary language, it's spoken first, and reading comes later. The king notes that Atlantis was at war with other countries, implying that other languages had developed even before Atlantis sank. Among the crystals' blessings seems to be a preservation of mind, given that 8000 years would take its toll on a human mind. Taking into account the arguments on reading a couple sections down, it's possible that the crystals have preserved their knowledge of spoken language, but lack of using the written language has caused those skills to atrophy.


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** Given Vinny's KirkSummation to Rourke, and Milo's attitude when he calls Rourke a mercenary, it's entirely possible that's just an insult. The majority of the group seems to be glorified thieves rather than actual guns for hire.
1st May '17 5:21:54 AM Willy2537
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* The Leviathan is still functional somewhere out there deep in the ocean, and it's also implied from the beginning of the film that it might not be the only one out there. If Milo and the Atlanteans can't figure out a way to control it, it would be a nightmare for seafarers or deep sea explorers everywhere, both during the film's time period and in its future.
14th Apr '17 7:11:05 PM abscake
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* When the toddler Kida loses her toy at the beginning of the movie, as they flee the incoming destruction, her mother says not to go back to get it because there's no time. She ''kneels on the ground'', calmly and slowly explains this to her daughter, and takes several more seconds than it would have taken for Kida to actually dash back and grab her toy.

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* When the toddler Kida loses her toy at the beginning of the movie, as they flee the incoming destruction, her mother says not to go back to get it because there's no time. She ''kneels on the ground'', calmly and slowly explains this to her daughter, and takes several more seconds than it would have taken for Kida to actually dash back and grab her toy. She prioritizes reassuring her daughter because she knows this may be goodbye.



* So the movie needs a group of heroes for the finale, but it's bugging me that the mercenaries are suddenly squeamish about making the biggest payday of their lives. How is killing people not part and parcel of a mercenary expedition like this? Did they not ever expect to kill anyone as mercenaries?

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* So the movie needs a group of heroes for the finale, but it's bugging me is it not out of character that the mercenaries are suddenly squeamish about making the biggest payday of their lives. lives? How is killing people not part and parcel of a mercenary expedition like this? Did they not ever expect to kill anyone as mercenaries?



** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So I assume her mom was just bonded to it for a bit to long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.
** That, and with Kida, all it needed to do was turn on the shield. With the queen, it had to turn on the shield, sink the city, create an air bubble in the upper mantle, AND generate an endless suply of fresh drinkable water. Logically, the latter would require a lot more power than just activating the guardians for the shield.

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** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So I assume presumably her mom was just bonded to it for a bit to long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.
** That, and with Kida, all it needed to do was turn on the shield. With the queen, her mother, it had to turn on the shield, sink the city, create an air bubble in the upper mantle, AND generate an endless suply of fresh drinkable water. Logically, the latter would require a lot more power than just activating the guardians for the shield.
14th Apr '17 6:45:19 PM abscake
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** Granted, he was more likely watching his wife and the mother of his young daughter sacrifice herself for the sake of his people instead of just staring at the big shiny.



* Kida often brings up that Atlantis is in ruins. We see for ourselves that the city during the story is pretty much unrecognizable as the preserved safe area that was protected from the wave in the prologue, and even have Milo and Kida's swim to show us just how much of Atlantis is flooded and uninhabitable even inside their safe haven bubble under the sea. It begs the question as to why no one tried to repair the buildings. Then we learn about the Crystal being the power source of Atlantis. It's not a stretch to think that after the Crystal was sealed in the chamber, the power keeping the city functioning weakened to the point where they could no longer operate the technology to make big repairs and were forced to abandon large parts of the city as they flooded or collapsed over the years.
* When Milo gives his "it's all about money, huh?" chastisement, all of his friends are in the middle of leaving him behind in Atlantis to die with the Atlanteans, and are subsequently convinced to instead do the right thing because of his speech. We all see them actively change their minds and walk over to stand with Milo. Except for Sweet. As we see only moments later, Sweet has been inside the palace tending to the dying king, not among the other mercenaries even though he had originally been part of their plan. The crew was clearly only seconds from driving away before being convinced by Milo, so we can only assume that they fully intended to leave Sweet behind too. Which can only mean that Sweet had a HeelFaceTurn even ''before'' Milo's speech, most likely right when Rourke punched the king and he immediately tried to help him, saying, "This was not part of the plan." All it took was hurting one defenseless old man to make him forget all about the countless riches he could have had, his nature as a doctor prevailing over all. And that's awesome.

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* Atlantis is in ruins, as Kida often brings up that Atlantis is in ruins. We see for ourselves that the city during the story is pretty much unrecognizable as up. Just compare the preserved safe area that was protected from the wave in the prologue, and even have Milo and Kida's swim prologue to show us just how much the city during the remainder of the story. Atlantis is flooded still so flooded, Milo and Kida have to swim through uninhabitable even inside their safe haven bubble under the sea.parts. It begs the question as to why no one tried to repair the buildings. Then we learn about the Crystal being the power source of Atlantis. It's not a stretch to think that after the Crystal was sealed in the chamber, the power keeping the city functioning weakened to the point where they could no longer operate the technology to make big repairs and were forced to abandon large parts of the city as they flooded or collapsed over the years.
* When Milo gives his "it's all about money, huh?" chastisement, all of his friends are in the middle of leaving him behind in Atlantis to die with the Atlanteans, and are subsequently convinced to instead do the right thing because of his speech. We all see them They're seen actively change changing their minds and walk walking over to stand with Milo. Except for Sweet. As we see seen, only moments later, Sweet has been inside the palace tending to the dying king, not among the other mercenaries even though he had originally been part of their plan. The crew was clearly only seconds from driving away before being convinced by Milo, so we it can only assume be assumed that they fully intended to leave Sweet behind too. Which can only mean that Sweet had a HeelFaceTurn even ''before'' Milo's speech, most likely right when Rourke punched the king and he immediately tried to help him, saying, "This was not part of the plan." All it took was hurting one defenseless old man to make him forget all about the countless riches he could have had, his nature as a doctor prevailing over all. And that's awesome.



** Maybe they'll just start aging normally from that point? Still FridgeHorror since because they normally life for a very long time, they're not prepared to have children at a population sustaining rate for their new lifespans, including at best a 40 year window for the women.
** It's never stated or implied Atlanteans of non-royal blood have the same aging process as royalty. We also see children in Atlantis, so they're clearly still having children at a population sustaining rate. It makes sense for only the royalty to age extremely slowly, since the crystal needs them and if the commoners are still having children without eventually passing on, Atlantis would be grossly overpopulated.
* Milo's surface life is effectively ended before he leaves on the mission: his books are in storage, his clothes are packed, and his resignation has been sent. It's implied he has little to no relationships, so that's fine, too. But he never sees his cat again, although either Audrey or Whitmore adopts the cat, since it's sitting on her lap in the last scene in Whitmore's house.
* Before he dies, the King of Atlantis gravely warns Rourke and his crew about taking the (very angry) mother crystal. We find out why [[BodyHorror when Rourke gets cut by a crystal shard.]] Had Kida/the Crystal reached the surface, countless others might have suffered this fate.
* The king says that the reason the city sank was because he tried to weaponize the crystal. We're never shown how it would work, but whatever it did caused a mushroom cloud and a tsunami. Now consider that this movie takes place in 1914 and the first World War had just begun...
** Helga subtly [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this when she says (when they are talking about the crystal's unequalled power) "I can think of a few countries who'd pay ''anything'' to find out..."

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** Maybe they'll they'd just start aging normally from that point? Still FridgeHorror since because they normally life for a very long time, they're not prepared to have children at a population sustaining rate for their new lifespans, including at best a 40 year window for the women.
** It's never stated or implied Atlanteans of non-royal blood have the same aging process as royalty. We also see children Children are seen in Atlantis, so they're clearly still having children at a population sustaining rate. It makes sense for only the royalty to age extremely slowly, since the crystal needs them and if the commoners are still having children without eventually passing on, Atlantis would be grossly overpopulated.
* Milo's surface life is effectively ended before he leaves on the mission: his books are in storage, his clothes are packed, and his resignation has been sent. It's implied he has little to no relationships, so that's fine, too. But he never sees his cat again, although either again. Either Audrey or Whitmore adopts the cat, since it's sitting on her lap in the last scene in Whitmore's house.
* Before he dies, the King of Atlantis gravely warns Rourke and his crew about taking the (very angry) mother God crystal. We find out why [[BodyHorror when Rourke gets cut by a crystal shard.]] Had Kida/the Crystal reached the surface, countless others might have suffered this fate.
* The king says that the reason the city sank was because he tried to weaponize the crystal. We're never shown how How it would work, work is never shown, but whatever it did caused a mushroom cloud and a tsunami. Now consider that this movie takes place in 1914 and the first World War had just begun...
** Helga subtly [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this when she says (when they are talking about the crystal's unequalled power) power. "I can think of a few countries who'd pay ''anything'' to find out..."
5th Apr '17 7:17:27 PM PerAnkh
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** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So I assume her mom was just bonded to it for a bit to long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.

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** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So I assume her mom was just bonded to it for a bit to long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.her.
**That, and with Kida, all it needed to do was turn on the shield. With the queen, it had to turn on the shield, sink the city, create an air bubble in the upper mantle, AND generate an endless suply of fresh drinkable water. Logically, the latter would require a lot more power than just activating the guardians for the shield.
1st Jan '17 4:21:25 PM LB7979
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** Helga subtly [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this when she says (when they are talking about the crystal's unequalled power) "I can think of a few countries who'd pay ''anything'' to find out..."
30th Dec '16 8:45:15 PM arisboch
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* Before he dies, the King of Atlantis gravely warns Rourke and his crew about taking the (very angry)mother crystal. We find out why [[BodyHorror when Rourke gets cut by a crystal shard.]] Had Kida/the Crystal reached the surface, countless others might have suffered this fate.

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* Before he dies, the King of Atlantis gravely warns Rourke and his crew about taking the (very angry)mother angry) mother crystal. We find out why [[BodyHorror when Rourke gets cut by a crystal shard.]] Had Kida/the Crystal reached the surface, countless others might have suffered this fate.
12th Nov '16 7:20:12 PM maxwellsilver
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* Pay very close attention to the scene when Rourke throws Helga off his blimp. As Helga is being tossed over the gondola's railing, you can see her fall in the direction of the blimp's propellers, which are located just below the gondola. She misses them, but it's not hard to imagine what might've happened otherwise.
** It certainly isn't, considering that's what happened to Rourke just minutes later.
12th Nov '16 7:19:22 PM maxwellsilver
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* Pay very close attention to the scene when Rourke throws Helga off his blimp. As Helga is being tossed over the gondola's railing, you can see her fall in the direction of the blimp's propellers, which are located just below the gondola. She misses them, but it's not hard to imagine what might've happened [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath otherwise]].
** It certainly isn't, considering what happened to Rourke just minutes later.

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** It's never stated or implied Atlanteans of non-royal blood have the same aging process as royalty. We also see children in Atlantis, so they're clearly still having children at a population sustaining rate. It makes sense for only the royalty to age extremely slowly, since the crystal needs them and if the commoners are still having children without eventually passing on, Atlantis would be grossly overpopulated.
* Pay very close attention to the scene when Rourke throws Helga off his blimp. As Helga is being tossed over the gondola's railing, you can see her fall in the direction of the blimp's propellers, which are located just below the gondola. She misses them, but it's not hard to imagine what might've happened [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath otherwise]].
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** It certainly isn't, considering that's what happened to Rourke just minutes later.
12th Nov '16 7:11:05 PM maxwellsilver
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** FridgeBrilliance: The whole sub was filling up, without that engine door closed, more of the sub would be flooded, and [[TheNeedOfTheMany more lives would be lost.]]

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** FridgeBrilliance: The whole sub was filling up, without that engine door closed, more of the sub would be flooded, and [[TheNeedOfTheMany [[TheNeedsOfTheMany more lives would be lost.]]
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