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21st May '17 3:30:18 PM ErikModi
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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.

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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.medbay.
** Also, Ash wasn't known to be an android initially. He was a last-second replacement by the Company (because they wanted TheMole to help them get the Alien). Just keeping the potentially infected crewmember outside the ship for 24 hours while you run every decontamination protocol known to man is far more effective.
23rd Apr '17 9:38:54 AM bogslug
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** Development on androids was probably slowed due to a lot of red tape -- their predecessors, the Replicants, caused a lot of problems when they rebelled and nobody wanted a repeat of the Roy Batty incident.
22nd Apr '17 7:01:25 AM bogslug
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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.
* If [[Film/ALIEN]] and [[Film/BLADE RUNNER]] depict the same continuity, then Jonesy is an android cat.

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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.
* If [[Film/ALIEN]] and [[Film/BLADE RUNNER]] depict the same continuity, then Jonesy is an android cat.
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22nd Apr '17 7:00:39 AM bogslug
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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.

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** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.medbay.
* If [[Film/ALIEN]] and [[Film/BLADE RUNNER]] depict the same continuity, then Jonesy is an android cat.
4th Sep '16 2:58:13 PM Sharlee
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** The dog was also considerably smaller a human or Predator host, with a narrower, shorter thoracic cavity in which to gestate, so the embryo inside the former may have had to cut short its development early, before it had acquired a complete set of species-specific traits.
25th Jul '16 11:14:45 AM ritzoreo
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* Robots are difficult to build and expensive AF in the Alien Franchise... If {{Prometheus}} is canon, robots were already a thing some 30 years before the first ''Alien'' film. But David seems to be a novelty and works as some sort of personal assistant for millionaire Peter Weyland. Then, in ''Alien'', Ash doesn't come across as a more advanced robot than David. Moreover, howcome humans are still necessary to man the ''Nostromo'' ship instead of just putting there a couple of robots to run the whole operation? If Ash can pass for a science officer, why not some other robot(s) as a navigator or ship engineer? Then in ''Aliens'', again only Bishop is a robot. I can sort of understand that robots may not be trusted to function as colonial marines, but why isn't there any mention of robots as colonists? Instead of sending dozens of humans to colonize, why not send a handful of robots as an avantgarde? Centuries later, in ''Resurrection'', Call is again the only robot in the film, not only that, but the models seem to be getting worse and worse, since by now they question orders. But the real people don't even seem to keep any Ash, David or Bishop models (Bishop being so far the only seemingly trust-worthy model in the entire franchise universe). This implies that the field of robotics is more difficult than thought, and also that robots are super-expensive despite decades of progress between the films, so much so, that they still haven't really replaced humans in menial/dangerous jobs.
20th Jun '16 3:06:12 PM timemonkey
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* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?

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* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?after"?
** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.
12th Mar '16 3:44:51 PM Korbl
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** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.

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** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.advantage.
* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?
9th Feb '16 10:07:34 AM ErikModi
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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.

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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.better.
** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.
9th Feb '16 10:03:19 AM ErikModi
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* A lot of the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology things that don't make sense]] about the Xenomorph make a lot of sense if you consider the possibility that they were designed as [[LivingWeapon weapons]]- HollywoodAcid for blood: defense mechanism as well as the 'living battery' idea proposed in the comics. Ability to reproduce with almost any species: A perfect way of making more of them that demoralizes the enemy in the process, as well as incorporating the abilities of other species in the Xenomorph's 'design'.

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* A lot of the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology things that don't make sense]] about the Xenomorph make a lot of sense if you consider the possibility that they were designed as [[LivingWeapon weapons]]- HollywoodAcid for blood: defense mechanism as well as the 'living battery' idea proposed in the comics. Ability to reproduce with almost any species: A perfect way of making more of them that demoralizes the enemy in the process, as well as incorporating the abilities of other species in the Xenomorph's 'design'. Taking on the characteristics of the animal they hatch from is even more sensible: that creature was already adapted to its environment, so the Xenomorph is adapted to it, as well, and adding its own advantages. And odds are the Xenomorph is taking as hosts the dominant lifeform in a given ecosystem (i.e., humans for most of the franchise), making it that much more capable.
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