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4th Sep '16 2:58:13 PM Sharlee
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** The dog was also considerably smaller a human or Predator host, with a narrower, shorter thoracic cavity in which to gestate, so the embryo inside the former may have had to cut short its development early, before it had acquired a complete set of species-specific traits.
25th Jul '16 11:14:45 AM ritzoreo
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* Robots are difficult to build and expensive AF in the Alien Franchise... If {{Prometheus}} is canon, robots were already a thing some 30 years before the first ''Alien'' film. But David seems to be a novelty and works as some sort of personal assistant for millionaire Peter Weyland. Then, in ''Alien'', Ash doesn't come across as a more advanced robot than David. Moreover, howcome humans are still necessary to man the ''Nostromo'' ship instead of just putting there a couple of robots to run the whole operation? If Ash can pass for a science officer, why not some other robot(s) as a navigator or ship engineer? Then in ''Aliens'', again only Bishop is a robot. I can sort of understand that robots may not be trusted to function as colonial marines, but why isn't there any mention of robots as colonists? Instead of sending dozens of humans to colonize, why not send a handful of robots as an avantgarde? Centuries later, in ''Resurrection'', Call is again the only robot in the film, not only that, but the models seem to be getting worse and worse, since by now they question orders. But the real people don't even seem to keep any Ash, David or Bishop models (Bishop being so far the only seemingly trust-worthy model in the entire franchise universe). This implies that the field of robotics is more difficult than thought, and also that robots are super-expensive despite decades of progress between the films, so much so, that they still haven't really replaced humans in menial/dangerous jobs.
20th Jun '16 3:06:12 PM timemonkey
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* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?

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* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?after"?
** Because you contaminate everything between the airlock and the medbay just getting them there. And there's no guarantee that they'd be able to neutralise any dangerous contaminate even if they managed to restrict it to the medbay.
12th Mar '16 3:44:51 PM Korbl
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** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.

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** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.advantage.
* If you have quarantine procedures, and a medbay, why would those procedures not include "isolate in (specific part of) medbay, send in the android science officer to examine/operate, sterilize android after"?
9th Feb '16 10:07:34 AM ErikModi
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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.

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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.better.
** If you're fighting a stand-up war, sure. But Xenomorphs clearly aren't a weapon of war, they're a weapon of terror. They're designed to be as frighteningly efficient at killing as possible, and even if you can defend yourself against them, their acid blood will do a good job at damaging or destroying nearby infrastructure. They may make an easy target clustered in hives, but first you have to find the hive, and Xenomorphs are sneaky above all else. Adding all this up means that, while Xenomorphs might not win you a war, they'll certainly distract and disrupt your enemy, giving you the advantage.
9th Feb '16 10:03:19 AM ErikModi
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* A lot of the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology things that don't make sense]] about the Xenomorph make a lot of sense if you consider the possibility that they were designed as [[LivingWeapon weapons]]- HollywoodAcid for blood: defense mechanism as well as the 'living battery' idea proposed in the comics. Ability to reproduce with almost any species: A perfect way of making more of them that demoralizes the enemy in the process, as well as incorporating the abilities of other species in the Xenomorph's 'design'.

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* A lot of the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology things that don't make sense]] about the Xenomorph make a lot of sense if you consider the possibility that they were designed as [[LivingWeapon weapons]]- HollywoodAcid for blood: defense mechanism as well as the 'living battery' idea proposed in the comics. Ability to reproduce with almost any species: A perfect way of making more of them that demoralizes the enemy in the process, as well as incorporating the abilities of other species in the Xenomorph's 'design'. Taking on the characteristics of the animal they hatch from is even more sensible: that creature was already adapted to its environment, so the Xenomorph is adapted to it, as well, and adding its own advantages. And odds are the Xenomorph is taking as hosts the dominant lifeform in a given ecosystem (i.e., humans for most of the franchise), making it that much more capable.
9th Oct '15 9:20:34 AM Darkmage7280
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* Do you remember the scene toward the end of ''Film/{{Alien}}'' when, after hearing the sounds of Parker and Lambert being killed by the creature over the radio, Ripley rushes to the scene and sees the bloody corpses? Look more closely next time you watch it. You can clearly Parker's dead face, but it took me several re-watches to realize that the corpse in the foreground has dark skin, not Lambert's pale skin. That isn't two corpses: it's Parker torn into two pieces. A deleted scene was to have Lambert still alive and being turned into an egg.
7th Oct '15 4:06:57 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Not true at all: the corpse, or rather Lambert's dangling legs, has a pale skin. See it here: [[https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/picture042.jpg]]



* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.
** Maybe for colonial/land-based weapons, but Xenomorphs are ideal to take down, say, a heavily-armed military ship. All you have to do is get a few on board. Admittedly, that would probably be no easy task, but it would be far from impossible. Once the facehuggers attack the crew, even IF they did know how to deal with the Xenomorphs (which is unlikely given how closely-guarded a secret like that would be to a corporation like W-Y), they wouldn't be effectively able to because every Xeno they killed could potentially be the one that dooms their ship due to acid blood. Once everyone on board is dead, you just blow up the defenseless ship with your own, because you wanted it destroyed in the first place. And even IF the crew was able to hold off Xenomorphs, they would be distracted and vulnerable to actual ship-to-ship fire. As an added bonus, especially for a shady company like W-Y, if the aliens killed everyone on board it could be reasonably passed off as some sort of containment breach instead of an actual attack. There may indeed be more powerful direct weapons, but as an support weapon the possibilities are endless, which is to say nothing of their effectiveness as a psychological weapon.

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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.
** Maybe for colonial/land-based weapons, but Xenomorphs are ideal to take down, say, a heavily-armed military ship. All you have to do is get a few on board. Admittedly, that would probably be no easy task, but it would be far from impossible. Once the facehuggers attack the crew, even IF they did know how to deal with the Xenomorphs (which is unlikely given how closely-guarded a secret like that would be to a corporation like W-Y), they wouldn't be effectively able to because every Xeno they killed could potentially be the one that dooms their ship due to acid blood. Once everyone on board is dead, you just blow up the defenseless ship with your own, because you wanted it destroyed in the first place. And even IF the crew was able to hold off Xenomorphs, they would be distracted and vulnerable to actual ship-to-ship fire. As an added bonus, especially for a shady company like W-Y, if the aliens killed everyone on board it could be reasonably passed off as some sort of containment breach instead of an actual attack. There may indeed be more powerful direct weapons, but as an support weapon the possibilities are endless, which is to say nothing of their effectiveness as a psychological weapon.
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6th Oct '15 1:29:27 PM lobster
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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.

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* How could the Xenomorphs make effective biological weapons? Their only method of killing relies on getting close to their enemies, which makes them easy to kill at a distance. Since they cluster in hives, it should also be relatively easy to bomb them from the safety of the air. Even if you were to disperse a bunch of facehuggers in a densely populated area, it would become impractical once the enemy knows what they're up against and would learn to kill anyone who's been infected after the first use. You could use something that's not a Xenomorph and that something else would likely be able to do it better.better.
** Maybe for colonial/land-based weapons, but Xenomorphs are ideal to take down, say, a heavily-armed military ship. All you have to do is get a few on board. Admittedly, that would probably be no easy task, but it would be far from impossible. Once the facehuggers attack the crew, even IF they did know how to deal with the Xenomorphs (which is unlikely given how closely-guarded a secret like that would be to a corporation like W-Y), they wouldn't be effectively able to because every Xeno they killed could potentially be the one that dooms their ship due to acid blood. Once everyone on board is dead, you just blow up the defenseless ship with your own, because you wanted it destroyed in the first place. And even IF the crew was able to hold off Xenomorphs, they would be distracted and vulnerable to actual ship-to-ship fire. As an added bonus, especially for a shady company like W-Y, if the aliens killed everyone on board it could be reasonably passed off as some sort of containment breach instead of an actual attack. There may indeed be more powerful direct weapons, but as an support weapon the possibilities are endless, which is to say nothing of their effectiveness as a psychological weapon.
9th Sep '15 1:46:59 PM Darkmage7280
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** Not true at all: the corpse, or rather Lambert's dangling legs, has a pale skin. See it here: [[https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/picture042.jpg]]
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