History Fridge / AdventureTime

26th Apr '18 5:39:59 PM Purplestuff2003
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** Spongebob is a show which features a similar back story only it has less magic and a more real history (Bikini Atoll and the Operation Crossroads 'Baker' nuclear test shot).

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** Spongebob is a show which features a similar back story backstory, only it has less magic and a more real history (Bikini Atoll and the Operation Crossroads 'Baker' nuclear test shot).
26th Apr '18 5:37:41 PM Purplestuff2003
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* Why have we never seen Flame Princess before? Two reasons: 1. It wouldn't make much sense for the Ice King to go to the Fire Kingdom. 2. She's Finn's age, so even if Ice King was Suicidal enough to go for her, he wouldn't touch her since she's underage.

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* Why have we never seen Flame Princess before? Two reasons: 1. It wouldn't make much sense for the Ice King to go to the Fire Kingdom. 2. She's Finn's age, so even if Ice King was Suicidal suicidal enough to go for her, he wouldn't touch her since she's underage.



* Two points of FridgeBrilliance related to Lemongrab's strange attitudes towards children: One) Lemongrab was shut away in his castle for (presumably) years. He likely never encountered a child while he was there. Two) many candy people are very small, child-sized regardless of age (Starchy, for instance), and all of them are [[GenericCuteness generically cute]], so there's really no visual cue to engender a "protect the small thing" response from Lemongrab. He doesn't interact with any children in "Too Young" (outside of the storyboard) besides the fairly competent Finn and the aged-down Bubblegum, and the Pup Gang in "You Made Me" are pretty awful to him (for further [[SympatheticPOV perception]], view their treatment of him less from the perspective of a [[ControlFreak control freak adult]], and more the perspective of an already mentally unbalanced ''kid''). He likely didn't even ''comprehend'' what distinguished a child from anything else until he [[BabiesMakeEverythingBetter started making]] [[PapaWolf his own]], so he'd have no particular qualms hurting them, either.

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* Two points of FridgeBrilliance related to Lemongrab's strange attitudes towards children: One) One, Lemongrab was shut away in his castle for (presumably) years. He likely never encountered a child while he was there. Two) Two, many candy people are very small, child-sized regardless of age (Starchy, for instance), and all of them are [[GenericCuteness generically cute]], so there's really no visual cue to engender a "protect the small thing" response from Lemongrab. He doesn't interact with any children in "Too Young" (outside of the storyboard) besides the fairly competent Finn and the aged-down Bubblegum, and the Pup Gang in "You Made Me" are pretty awful to him (for further [[SympatheticPOV perception]], view their treatment of him less from the perspective of a [[ControlFreak control freak adult]], and more the perspective of an already mentally unbalanced ''kid''). He likely didn't even ''comprehend'' what distinguished a child from anything else until he [[BabiesMakeEverythingBetter started making]] [[PapaWolf his own]], so he'd have no particular qualms hurting them, either.



* '''Betty is dead'''
** Betty obviously died in the mushroom war as the Ice King's logs started way before the bombs began to fall, meaning that [[spoiler: he is doomed to wander the Earth, still searching for his 'Princess' forever, because the crown keeps him alive and his madness keeps him from remembering that ''Betty has been dead of over 1000 years''.]]

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* In the first episode, Cinnamon Bun is seen attempting to do a backflip, and ends up hitting his head as a result. Episodes after that, Cinnamon Bun speaks and acts like a person with serious mental problems. '''Cinnamon Bun got brain damage.'''
* '''Betty is dead'''
probably dead.'''
** Betty obviously died in the mushroom war as the Ice King's logs started way before the bombs began to fall, meaning that [[spoiler: he is doomed to wander the Earth, still searching for his 'Princess' "princess" forever, because the crown keeps him alive and his madness keeps him from remembering that ''Betty has been dead of for over 1000 1,000 years''.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has a really huge one. The series is implies that Finn and Jake are running around in post-apocalyptic Earth. Multiple times throughout the series, they reference a great war that took place many years ago. Finn is apparently the only human left in this multicolored world riddled with artifacts of human life, like broken down cars, computer stuff, and the occasional human skull. Now if you look at the opening sequence to every Adventure Time episode, there are three nukes, embedded into the hillside. The entire world of Adventure Time is full of sentient candy, giant monsters, evil creatures, and humanoid animal crosses. What kind of horrible radiation storm took place to make all of that?

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has a really huge one. The series is implies that Finn and Jake are running around in a post-apocalyptic Earth. Multiple times throughout the series, they reference a great war that took place many years ago. Finn is apparently the only human left in this multicolored world riddled with artifacts of human life, like broken down cars, computer stuff, and the occasional human skull. Now if you look at the opening sequence to every Adventure Time episode, there are three nukes, embedded into the hillside. The entire world of Adventure Time is full of sentient candy, giant monsters, evil creatures, and humanoid animal crosses. What kind of horrible radiation storm took place to make all of that?



** Think about The Lich for a moment. Ageless, endless creature who is also known for trying to end the world as we all know it? Who's to say he didn't succeed the first time. Perhaps HE [[spoiler: is the cause of the Apocalypse.]]

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** Think about The Lich for a moment. Ageless, endless creature who is also known for trying to end the world as we all know it? Who's to say he didn't succeed the first time. time? Perhaps HE [[spoiler: is the cause of the Apocalypse.]]



*** Here comes the kicker. Early production of Adventure Time had Princess Bubblegum's first name as [[spoiler: Betty]]. If indeed we're dealing with the [[spoiler: same person]], every time Finn defeats the Ice King and saves PB, he is [[spoiler: keeping the fiancees apart]]. This makes Finn [[spoiler: the evil one]].

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*** Here comes the kicker. Early production of Adventure Time had Princess Bubblegum's first name as [[spoiler: Betty]]. If indeed we're dealing with the [[spoiler: same person]], every time Finn defeats the Ice King and saves PB, he is [[spoiler: keeping the two fiancees apart]]. This makes Finn Finn, in the Ice King's point of view, [[spoiler: the evil one]].



** [[StalkerWithACrush Stalker with a crush?]]

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** [[StalkerWithACrush Stalker with a crush?]]crush, maybe?]]



* Jesse Moynihan recently said that Princess Bubblegum isn't just Lemongrab's creator... She's his MOTHER. That's right- Too Young was basically a whole episode about a mother abandoning her mentally unstable child, and bullying him. It isn't as funny to watch her push him to the ground, call him names, incessantly cause him physical pain by spicing, cause him to fall out of a castle window and smash his head into the ground, fall out of a tree... He may not be a nice person, but it's Princess Bubblegum's fault that he's like that. Instead of helping him, it seems as if she's more content to stick him a castle and have him raised by servants in isolation, and be borderline abusive to him. With this knowledge in mind, Too Young isn't really as funny anymore- it's really freaking depressing and disturbing. Even more-so that the creators of the show always manage to justify PB's abuse and neglect.

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* Jesse Moynihan recently said that Princess Bubblegum isn't just Lemongrab's creator... She's his MOTHER. That's right- Too Young was basically a whole episode about a mother abandoning her mentally unstable child, and bullying him. It isn't as funny to watch her push him to the ground, call him names, incessantly cause him physical pain by spicing, cause him to fall out of a castle window and smash his head into the ground, fall out of a tree... He may not be a nice person, but it's Princess Bubblegum's fault that he's like that. Instead of helping him, it seems as if she's more content to stick him in a castle and have him raised by servants in isolation, and be borderline abusive to him. With this knowledge in mind, Too Young isn't really as funny anymore- it's really freaking depressing and disturbing. Even more-so that the creators of the show always manage to justify PB's abuse and neglect.



* Does Lemongrab know that he's a failed experiment, and know how messed-up he is in the head? For a combination of FridgeHorror and a HUUUGE FridgeTearJerker, we have Princess Bubblegum saying: "He was the first one of my experiments gone wrong," RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. Also, Ian James-Quartey said, about Lemongrab's birthday, it's the day he remembers that "someone tried to play God and messed up." What kind of horrible, twisted, mangled excuse for a self concept does this poor bastard have?!

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* Does Lemongrab know that he's a failed experiment, and know how messed-up he is in the head? For a combination of FridgeHorror and a HUUUGE FridgeTearJerker, we have Princess Bubblegum saying: "He was the first one of my experiments gone wrong," RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. Also, Ian James-Quartey Jones-Quartey said, about Lemongrab's birthday, it's the day he remembers that "someone tried to play God and messed up." What kind of horrible, twisted, mangled excuse for a self concept does this poor bastard have?!



* Goliad is no longer heir to the throne, seeing as how she is physically unable to rule. If PB dies... that means ''Lemongrab'' will inherit the throne. *shudder* Imagine Too Young, on a much more epic scale; only imagine Lemongrab after he's been informed that his creator (who has been implied to be his mom, and therefore the only family he has) has passed away. Take a guy who's emotionally unstable already, then kill his mom, and make him the ruler of a kingdom he DESPISES. Yup- the candy people are doomed.

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* Goliad is no longer heir to the throne, seeing as how she is physically unable to rule. If PB dies... that means ''Lemongrab'' will inherit the throne. *shudder* Imagine Too Young, "Too Young", on a much more epic scale; only imagine Lemongrab after he's been informed that his creator (who has been implied to be his mom, and therefore the only family he has) has passed away. Take a guy who's emotionally unstable already, then kill his mom, and make him the ruler of a kingdom he DESPISES. Yup- the candy people are doomed.



* Lemongrab is unable to read social cues, has intensely narrow interests and obsessions, lacks social recipricocy and empathy, is often angry, depressed, and anxious, doesn't understand humor, has an irregular manner of speaking, has difficulty controlling the volume of his voice, is an exceedingly picky eater, is obsessed with order, has few self-help skills, and expresses his emotions in ways that confuse people. The earl clearly meets all of the diagnostic criteria for autism, and nobody is helping him to adjust or be happy. This autistic troper is horrified that even the earl's own MOM doesn't give a damn about the poor sour bastard's mental well-being.
** Lacking empathy is not a trait of autism, not is being angry or not understanding humour.
*** They're not traits for autism, but they can be side effects. Lemongrab's life isn't exactly a happy one. And not understanding humor makes sense, since many forms of humor involve not meeting social expectations and Lemongrab doesn't understand social expectations. And speaking as a person on the spectrum, it's not a matter of lacking empathy but not knowing how to show it.

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* Lemongrab is unable to read social cues, has intensely narrow interests and obsessions, lacks social recipricocy and empathy, is often angry, depressed, and anxious, doesn't understand humor, has an irregular manner of speaking, has difficulty controlling the volume of his voice, is an exceedingly picky eater, is obsessed with order, has few self-help skills, and expresses his emotions in ways that confuse people. The earl clearly meets all of the diagnostic criteria for autism, sociopathy and nobody is helping him to adjust or be happy. This autistic troper is horrified that even the earl's own MOM doesn't give a damn about the poor sour bastard's mental well-being.
** Lacking empathy is not a trait of autism, not is being angry or not understanding humour.
*** They're not traits for autism, but they can be side effects. Lemongrab's life isn't exactly a happy one. And not understanding humor makes sense, since many forms of humor involve not meeting social expectations and Lemongrab doesn't understand social expectations. And speaking as a person on the spectrum, it's not a matter of lacking empathy but not knowing how to show it.



** [[spoiler: you totally called it]]

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** [[spoiler: you totally called it]]it.]]
24th Apr '18 9:21:09 AM Keniko
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* A wonderful example involving [[spoiler: the two known Ice Elementals (not counting Ice King, as his powers come from the crown and are unnatural)]] who have very meaningful names. [[spoiler: Urgence Evergreen]] was in an extinction event that needed to be taken care of immediately. [[spoiler: Patience St. Pim]] decided that, instead of being reincarnated, [[spoiler: froze herself to live through the Mushroom War]] which led to an extreme amount of waiting.

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* A wonderful example involving [[spoiler: the two known Ice Elementals (not counting Ice King, as his powers come from the crown and are unnatural)]] who have very meaningful names. [[spoiler: Urgence Evergreen]] was in an extinction event that needed to be taken care of immediately. [[spoiler: Patience St. Pim]] decided that, instead of being reincarnated, [[spoiler: froze she would freeze herself to live through the Mushroom War]] which led to an extreme amount of waiting.
28th Mar '18 6:52:36 PM Neechan
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* A wonderful example involving [[spoiler: the two known Ice Elementals (not counting Ice King, as his powers come from the crown and are unnatural)]] have two very meaningful names. [[spoiler: Urgence Evergreen]] was in an extinction event that needed to be taken care of immediately. [[spoiler: Patience St. Pim]] decided that, instead of being reincarnated, [[spoiler: froze herself to live through the Mushroom War]] which led to an extreme amount of waiting.

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* A wonderful example involving [[spoiler: the two known Ice Elementals (not counting Ice King, as his powers come from the crown and are unnatural)]] who have two very meaningful names. [[spoiler: Urgence Evergreen]] was in an extinction event that needed to be taken care of immediately. [[spoiler: Patience St. Pim]] decided that, instead of being reincarnated, [[spoiler: froze herself to live through the Mushroom War]] which led to an extreme amount of waiting.
28th Mar '18 6:50:59 PM Neechan
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* A wonderful example involving [[spoiler: the two known Ice Elementals (not counting Ice King, as his powers come from the crown and are unnatural)]] have two very meaningful names. [[spoiler: Urgence Evergreen]] was in an extinction event that needed to be taken care of immediately. [[spoiler: Patience St. Pim]] decided that, instead of being reincarnated, [[spoiler: froze herself to live through the Mushroom War]] which led to an extreme amount of waiting.
24th Mar '18 10:36:51 PM Neechan
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** Besides being [[WordofGod Word of God]], it was revealed in Billy's Bucket List (by Finn) that [[Joshua is dead and that Finn and Jake buried him behind... something.]] He ends up getting interrupted, but that's besides the point.

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** Besides being [[WordofGod Word of God]], it was revealed in Billy's Bucket List (by Finn) that [[Joshua [[spoiler:Joshua is dead and that Finn and Jake buried him behind... something.]] He ends up getting interrupted, but that's besides the point.
24th Mar '18 10:35:38 PM Neechan
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** Besides being [[WordofGod Word of God]], it was revealed in Billy's Bucket List (by Finn) that [[Joshua is dead and that Finn and Jake buried him behind... something.]] He ends up getting interrupted, but that's besides the point.
24th Mar '18 9:51:06 PM Neechan
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** There's extra brilliance in this scene that this troper hasn't seen anyone mention... When the above occurs, [[spoiler:Finn appears to be 'high fiving' the Lich.]] In other words, he was [[spoiler:[[LiteralMetaphor "giving him some skin."]]]]



** There's extra brilliance in this scene that this troper hasn't seen anyone mention... When the above occurs, [[spoiler:Finn appears to be 'high fiving' the Lich.]] In other words, he was [[spoiler:[[LiteralMetaphor "giving him some skin."]]]]
24th Mar '18 9:49:45 PM Neechan
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** There's extra brilliance in this scene that this troper hasn't seen anyone mention... When the above occurs, [[spoiler:Finn appears to be 'high fiving' the Lich.]] In other words, he was [[spoiler:[[LiteralMetaphor "giving him some skin."]]]]
24th Mar '18 7:19:22 PM Neechan
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*** Scary to think what happened if he had found more than one of those crowns... one was bad enough.
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