History FreudianExcuse / Literature

17th Jan '18 12:51:17 PM Derkhan
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* ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has the Crippled God, whose fall from the heavens did not do good things to his sanity. The fact that most of the pantheon has periodically gotten together and chained him up for, from his perspective, no real reason didn't help either. Even some of the characters in-series recognize that his wanton destruction of the world is more akin to someone lashing out in hurt and desperation, than an act of evil itself.

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* The ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' has the Crippled God, whose fall from the heavens did not do good things to his sanity. The fact that most of the pantheon has periodically gotten together and chained him up for, from his perspective, no real reason didn't help either. Even some of the characters in-series recognize that his wanton destruction of the world is more akin to someone lashing out in hurt and desperation, than an act of evil itself.
12th Jan '18 2:04:45 PM TheJ0ker
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* ''Literature/{{Mavericks}} main protagonist, Jessica Napier, has her {{Jerkass}} tendencies implied to stem from her [[{{Tykebomb}} less than ideal]] childhood, her [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes mostly loving]] [[EvilMatriarch but still villainous mother]] and Blackburn in general being a ViceCity that keeps kicking her in the teeth.
16th Nov '17 5:50:35 PM iroanxi
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* ''Literature/SmallerAndSmallerCircles'': [[spoiler:Alex Carlos was raped by his gym teacher in high school,]] which leads to [[spoiler:his]] vengeful and psychopathic actions in the present.
21st Oct '17 9:32:53 AM Silverblade2
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* In the short story collection ''The Further Adventures of the Joker'', [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker the eponymous Joker]] gets a story devoted to a snapshot of his childhood with an abusive father (''SMILE, I SAID!'') as the centerpiece. That, and killing small animals [[spoiler:and collecting the bones to make grotesque sculptures]]. Perhaps most notably, we get some insight into how his father got to where he is. Big surprise -- it involves ''his'' father.

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* In the short story collection ''The Further Adventures of the Joker'', [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker the eponymous Joker]] gets a story devoted to a snapshot of his childhood with an abusive father (''SMILE, I SAID!'') as the centerpiece. That, and killing small animals [[spoiler:and collecting the bones to make grotesque sculptures]]. Perhaps most notably, we get some insight into how his father got to where he is. Big surprise -- it involves ''his'' father.
18th Oct '17 12:10:50 PM WillBGood
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** ''"I had a hard life. Hard for my parents, I mean. It wasn't that bad for me."'' - Drake Merwin.

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** ''"I --->"I had a hard life. Hard for my parents, I mean. It wasn't that bad for me."'' - Drake Merwin."
30th Sep '17 6:37:56 PM CnHGirl
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** Draco Malfoy has the fairly obvious excuse of being raised by his family to be just as bigoted and elitist as them, but his deeper motivations change and deteriorate as he grows older and becomes more embroiled in [[spoiler: Voldemort's]] plans: [[spoiler: he is bitterly jealous of Harry Potter's Messianic status in the wizarding world, since in his mind, a half-blood wizard raised by Muggles isn't supposed to amount to anything. For that matter, neither is a Muggle-born witch or a pure-blood who doesn't care about blood purity. His early years at Hogwarts are spent trying to mirror or diminish Harry's life (ratting out the trio during the dragon incident, joining the Slytherin Quidditch team as a Seeker) with little benefit to himself, culminating in him being "chosen" to assassinate Dumbledore, a task he admits he was forced to accept on pain of death. His FreudianExcuse is continuously challenged and deconstructed by showing that being TheChosenOne is ''not'' a never-ending ticker tape parade regardless of your alignment, and that the elitist world of blood purity and Muggle subjugation Voldemort is working towards isn't feasible and achieving it will more than likely cost Malfoy his life, a price he almost paid twice as a Death Eater.

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** Draco Malfoy has the fairly obvious excuse of being raised by his family to be just as bigoted and elitist as them, but his deeper motivations change and deteriorate as he grows older and becomes more embroiled in [[spoiler: Voldemort's]] plans: [[spoiler: he is bitterly jealous of Harry Potter's Messianic status in the wizarding world, since in his mind, a half-blood wizard raised by Muggles isn't supposed to amount to anything. For that matter, neither is a Muggle-born witch or a pure-blood who doesn't care about blood purity. His early years at Hogwarts are spent trying to mirror or diminish Harry's life (ratting out the trio during the dragon incident, joining the Slytherin Quidditch team as a Seeker) with little benefit to himself, culminating in him being "chosen" to assassinate Dumbledore, a task he admits he was forced to accept on pain of death. His FreudianExcuse is continuously challenged and deconstructed by showing that being TheChosenOne is ''not'' a never-ending ticker tape parade regardless of your alignment, and that the elitist world of blood purity and Muggle subjugation Voldemort is working towards isn't feasible and achieving it will more than likely cost Malfoy his life, a price he almost paid twice as a Death Eater.Eater]].
30th Sep '17 6:37:27 PM CnHGirl
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** Draco Malfoy has the fairly obvious excuse of being raised by his family to be just as bigoted and elitist as them, but his deeper motivations change and deteriorate as he grows older and becomes more embroiled in [[spoiler: Voldemort's]] plans: [[spoiler: he is bitterly jealous of Harry Potter's Messianic status in the wizarding world, since in his mind, a half-blood wizard raised by Muggles isn't supposed to amount to anything. For that matter, neither is a Muggle-born witch or a pure-blood who doesn't care about blood purity. His early years at Hogwarts are spent trying to mirror or diminish Harry's life (ratting out the trio during the dragon incident, joining the Slytherin Quidditch team as a Seeker) with little benefit to himself, culminating in him being "chosen" to assassinate Dumbledore, a task he admits he was forced to accept on pain of death. His FreudianExcuse is continuously challenged and deconstructed by showing that being TheChosenOne is ''not'' a never-ending ticker tape parade regardless of your alignment, and that the elitist world of blood purity and Muggle subjugation Voldemort is working towards isn't feasible and achieving it will more than likely cost Malfoy his life, a price he almost paid twice as a Death Eater.
28th Aug '17 5:44:19 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Oh, it's worse than that: [[spoiler: Snape's only friend and love interest growing up was Lily Evans, but his poor lifestyle choices (hanging with would-be-Death Eaters and supporting their racist cause, even though that cause is racist against people like Lily) ended up pushing her away from him. Who'd she end up marrying? ''James Potter''. Harry is not only James' son, but the son of James ''and the woman Snape loved'', something Snape is always reminded of when looking at Harry (who has his father's face, but his mother's eyes.) To Snape's credit, Harry being Lily's son is also the reason he protects him, despite his bullying of him. Furthermore, he never blamed James for Lily, but blamed himself. This probably meant that even if Lily wasn't in the picture, Snape would still be TheResenter to James. ]]
** Invoked and consciously averted with Voldemort. His upbringing as an orphan was far from ideal, but others (most notably Harry himself) were brought up in worse conditions without using it as an excuse to become Wizard Hitler. And it's pretty clear he was just born a sociopath. In fact, he was the ''cause'' of most of the misery in the orphanage.

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** Oh, it's worse than that: [[spoiler: Snape was a very unpopular kid growing up, with his only real friend being Lily Evans, Harry's mother (who he had a crush on). He also hung out with a group of kids who would grow up to be Death Eaters, and absorbed their racist views- resulting in Lily breaking off their friendship when he called her a "mudblood". Lily later went on to marry James Potter, once Snape's only friend and love interest growing up was Lily Evans, but his poor lifestyle choices (hanging with would-be-Death Eaters and supporting their racist cause, even though that cause is racist against people like Lily) ended up pushing her away from him. Who'd she end up marrying? ''James Potter''. Harry is not only chief bully. Harry, having inherited James' son, looks but the son of James ''and the woman Lily's eyes, constantly reminds Snape loved'', something Snape is always reminded of when looking at Harry (who has his father's face, but his mother's eyes.) how he lost her. To Snape's credit, Harry being Lily's son is also the reason he protects him, despite his bullying of him. Furthermore, he never blamed James for Lily, but blamed himself. This probably meant that even if Lily wasn't in the picture, Snape would still be TheResenter to James. And ''then'', with nowhere else to go, he ended up becoming a Death Eater and overhearing part of a prophecy about a kid who'd grow up to defeat the Dark Lord- which Voldemort interpreted as referring to Lily's kid and deciding to kill her along with her family. Snape plead with him to spare her, but he ended up killing her when she wouldn't get out of his way and let him kill her one-year-old baby.]]
** Invoked and consciously averted with Voldemort. His upbringing as an orphan He was far from ideal, but others (most notably Harry himself) were conceived when his mother, a StalkerWithACrush, used a love potion on her crush. She was heartbroken when he left her and died in childbirth, leaving Tom to be raised at an orphanage. Though it's suggested that he might be TheSociopath partially because there was no love involved in his conception, his actual past is never brought up in worse conditions without using it as being an excuse to become Wizard Hitler. And it's pretty clear for what he did. The orphanage was just born a sociopath. In fact, he not pleasant, yes- but ''he was the ''cause'' of most of the misery worst thing in the orphanage. it'', having learned early how to manipulate magic in order to hurt others.


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** Filch is partially so mean to Hogwarts students because he's jealous- he himself is a [[MuggleBornOfMages Squib]].
11th Aug '17 8:14:36 PM TheJ0ker
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* ''Literature/{{Mavericks}} main protagonist, Jessica Napier, has her {{Jerkass}} tendencies implied to stem from her [[{{Tykebomb}} less than ideal]] childhood, her [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes mostly loving]] [[EvilMatriarch but still villainous mother]] and Blackburn in general being a ViceCity that keeps kicking her in the teeth.
5th Aug '17 4:29:46 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/{{Domina}}'':
** Quite a few of the main characters have lost parents or otherwise had tragedies in their lives that shape their thinking. In a subversion, this is so common that no one actually cares. When you live in a WretchedHive, you're ''expected'' to have lost family members and friends in acts of senseless violence. Orphans are more common than people with even a single living parent.
** Subverted with Alex, who tries to spin off out a unique and interesting backstory... only for Kelly to tell him to knock it off. Turns out that other than growing up in an orphanage, his childhood was quiet and peaceful.
--->'''Alex:''' Saints ''above'' vampire, can't you just let me have my cool origin story?
** Subverted in another direction when it turns out that [[spoiler:Alex and Kelly are siblings, and the only reason that Alex had a peaceful childhood is because their mother sent him away from their father. Pity she couldn't do the same for Kelly, who grew up a drug-addled maniac who tortured people for fun. Necessarius managed to get her off the drugs, but she eventually had to return to her old culture--and the drugs--to take control of the culture and possibly do something constructive with it]].
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