History FreudianExcuse / AnimeAndManga

25th Aug '17 10:02:38 PM HighCrate
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* Why is Tetsuo from ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' not on the list yet?! After enduring years of [[KidsAreCruel kids bullying him]] and trying to make him [[TheWoobie cry]], and being the youngest member of a biker gang who is looked down on by everyone, including his best friend... he discovers he has power greater than all of them. [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity And]]... cue his RoaringRampageOfRevenge.

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* Why is Tetsuo from ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' not on the list yet?! ''Manga/{{Akira}}'': After enduring years of [[KidsAreCruel kids bullying him]] and trying to make him [[TheWoobie cry]], and being the youngest member of a biker gang who is looked down on by everyone, including his best friend... he discovers he has power greater than all of them. [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity And]]... cue his RoaringRampageOfRevenge.
25th Aug '17 9:56:26 PM HighCrate
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** Sasuke takes a turn down a dark path of vengeance because his older brother killed the rest of their family and {{Mind Rape}}d him, twice. And after the death of Itachi he decides kill all the people in Konoha because he knew his now late older brother did everything he did for protection Sasuke and Konoha, and [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery decides that Konoha too good than him.]]

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** Sasuke takes a turn down a dark path of vengeance because his older brother killed the rest of their family and {{Mind Rape}}d him, twice. And after the death of Itachi he decides kill all the people in Konoha because he knew his now late older brother did everything he did for protection Sasuke and Konoha, and [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery decides that Konoha too good than him.]]
14th Apr '17 5:48:19 PM mouschilight
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*** Interestingly enough, unlike many other Freudian Excuse villains, his [[MoralEventHorizon most despicable acts]] in the eyes of the fanbase [[spoiler:(killing Jiraiya and Kakashi, destroying Konoha, and then almost killing Hinata)]] occurred '''after''' his FreudianExcuse was revealed, almost as though to counteract any sympathy we might feel for him when he expands upon it afterwards. As some fans believe, while Pain has a tragic backstory, it isn't enough to justify the extent of his plans and actions.

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*** Interestingly enough, unlike many other Freudian Excuse villains, his [[MoralEventHorizon most despicable acts]] in the eyes of the fanbase [[spoiler:(killing [[BadassTeacher Jiraiya and Kakashi, Kakashi]], destroying Konoha, and then almost killing Hinata)]] [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Hinata]] [[ForcedToWatch right in front of Naruto]])]] occurred '''after''' his FreudianExcuse was revealed, almost as though to counteract any sympathy we might feel for him when he expands upon it afterwards. As some fans believe, while Pain has a tragic backstory, it isn't enough to justify the extent of his plans and actions.
12th Apr '17 2:10:39 PM mouschilight
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*** Interestingly enough, unlike many other Freudian Excuse villains, his [[MoralEventHorizon most despicable acts]] in the eyes of the fanbase [[spoiler:(killing Jiraiya, destroying Konoha, and almost killing Hinata)]] occurred '''after''' his FreudianExcuse was revealed, almost as though to counteract any sympathy we might feel for him when he expands upon it afterwards. As some fans believe, while Pain has a tragic backstory, it isn't enough to justify the extent of his plans and actions.

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*** Interestingly enough, unlike many other Freudian Excuse villains, his [[MoralEventHorizon most despicable acts]] in the eyes of the fanbase [[spoiler:(killing Jiraiya, Jiraiya and Kakashi, destroying Konoha, and then almost killing Hinata)]] occurred '''after''' his FreudianExcuse was revealed, almost as though to counteract any sympathy we might feel for him when he expands upon it afterwards. As some fans believe, while Pain has a tragic backstory, it isn't enough to justify the extent of his plans and actions.
18th Mar '17 8:35:04 AM ArcaneAzmadi
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*** It's worth noting that Tobi marks the point in the manga where the fanbase considered Masashi Kishimoto to have milked this trope too many times (and in this case [[{{Wangst}} executed it too weakly]]), making him UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. And amazingly, it still got worse with the following entry.
16th Mar '17 7:14:30 PM nombretomado
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*** Spoofed in ''NarutoTheAbridgedSeries'', when Sakura tells Sasuke she's not interested in Naruto because he's got such a downer background, yet isn't using it as an excuse to be emo.

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*** Spoofed in ''NarutoTheAbridgedSeries'', ''WebVideo/NarutoTheAbridgedSeries'', when Sakura tells Sasuke she's not interested in Naruto because he's got such a downer background, yet isn't using it as an excuse to be emo.
1st Mar '17 7:18:22 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in ''{{Literature/Durarara}}'', where Shizuo is more than a little distraught that his [[HairTriggerTemper anger]] [[UnstoppableRage issues]] ''aren't'' the result of abuse or childhood trauma.

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* ''{{LightNovel/Durarara}}'':
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Subverted in ''{{Literature/Durarara}}'', where Shizuo is more than a little distraught that his [[HairTriggerTemper anger]] [[UnstoppableRage issues]] ''aren't'' the result of abuse or childhood trauma.



** AND played straight in Durarara!!×2, specifically, [[spoiler: Aoba]]'s case. That guy is evil alright, but that comes from his childhood, when he was heavily abused by his elder brother. Whose room he burned down eventually.

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** AND played Played straight in Durarara!!×2, specifically, [[spoiler: Aoba]]'s case. That guy is evil alright, but that comes from his childhood, when he was heavily abused by his elder brother. Whose room he burned down eventually.
18th Feb '17 5:40:15 AM Nyame
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* Luxus, one of the biggest Jerkasses in ''Manga/FairyTail'' [[spoiler: prior to his defeat and HeelFaceTurn anyway]] used to be a cheerful kid who loved his grandpa Markarov. That changed when Markarov kicked Luxus's father Ivan out of Fairy Tail for endangering his comrades. After that Luxus resented both his grandfather for valuing his TrueCompanions more than his family and the concept of friendship that close and strong in general. Since, as mentioned earlier, he's one of the ''biggest assholes in the series'', who even went so far as to [[spoiler: threaten to destroy the guild's hometown if Makarov didn't hand it over to him because he wanted to make Fairy Tail stronger]], it's not a very good excuse.
** Minerva has one too, though hers makes far more sense.
* From ''Manga/DeathNote'', we have Misa Amane, a SerialKiller who generally shows no signs of sympathy for her victims nor hesitation to kill them. These people can be anyone who gets in her way. Her excuse is that [[spoiler: her parents were murdered before her eyes in a robbery. This makes her support the original Kira, Light Yagami, who punished her parents' killer after he escaped conventional justice]]. This explains, but does not excuse, her behavior.
** Subverted with Teru Mikami, an even [[AxCrazy crazier]] prosecutor turned serial killer whose victims include even the unemployed, eventually. However, when one looks at his past, we see that it was nothing more than a particularly bad case of middle school bullying that he blew way out of proportion, making it quite clear that there was something wrong with him from the beginning. To emphasize this, he's the only one to get a flashback sequence, reflecting how much he's obsessed with these events. Also, when his mother, and the bullies, died, he wasn't disturbed - simply viewed this as what was meant to happen.

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* Luxus, Laxus, one of the biggest Jerkasses in ''Manga/FairyTail'' [[spoiler: prior to his defeat and HeelFaceTurn anyway]] used to be a cheerful kid who loved his grandpa Markarov. That changed when Markarov kicked Luxus's Laxus's father Ivan out of Fairy Tail for endangering his comrades. After that Luxus Laxus resented both his grandfather for valuing his TrueCompanions more than his family and the concept of friendship that close and strong in general. Since, as mentioned earlier, he's one of the ''biggest assholes in the series'', who even went so far as to [[spoiler: threaten [[spoiler:threaten to destroy the guild's hometown if Makarov didn't hand it over to him because he wanted to make Fairy Tail stronger]], it's not a very good excuse.
excuse. He eventually got better.
** Minerva has one too, though hers makes far more sense.
sense. [[spoiler:Her father abused her while training, pounding into her head that MightMakesRight and all that jazz. Minerva acts the way she does because that's how she was taught, and it's greatly implied that deep down, she knew it was wrong, but didn't know how to stop]].
** Zeref lost the two most important people in his life, and their deaths shaped him into becoming the dreaded Black Wizard the world fears so much. [[spoiler:His younger brother, Natsu, died alongside their parents in a dragon attack. Zeref loved him so much that he studied taboo magic in order to find a way to revive him, and was cursed by a god in the process. Constantly surrounded by death, he was ostracized by society and labeled "evil" as a result. Then there was Mavis. Mavis was one of the few to ever show him empathy and kindness. Eventually, she was cursed like he was, and became the only person who would ever be able understand him. They fell in love, and kissed -- [[YankTheDogsChain which killed her]]. Or rather, killed her body, leaving her a spirit only visible to members of Fairy Tail. Zeref, having been denied a chance at happiness with the person who brought light back into his world, knowing that she was still among the living but could not be a part of his life, continued his downward spiral and resolved himself to annihlate humanity]].
* From ''Manga/DeathNote'', we have Misa Amane, a SerialKiller who generally shows no signs of sympathy for her victims nor hesitation to kill them. These people can be anyone who gets in her way. Her excuse is that [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her parents were murdered before her eyes in a robbery. This makes her support the original Kira, Light Yagami, who punished her parents' killer after he escaped conventional justice]]. This explains, but does not excuse, her behavior.
** Subverted with Teru Mikami, an even [[AxCrazy crazier]] prosecutor turned serial killer whose victims include even the unemployed, eventually. However, when one looks at his past, we see that it was nothing more than a particularly bad case of middle school bullying that he blew way out of proportion, making it quite clear that there was something wrong with him from the beginning. To emphasize this, he's the only one to get a flashback sequence, reflecting how much he's obsessed with these events. Also, when his mother, and the bullies, died, he wasn't disturbed - -- simply viewed this as what was meant to happen.
12th Feb '17 12:27:42 AM ILikeRobots
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* Russia of ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' was a [[UsedToBeASweetKid timid, sweet-tempered child]] who [[IJustWantToHaveFriends just wanted to make friends]]...but a combination of being relentlessly bullied by the nations around him and his turbulent history resulted in a SanitySlippage that turned him into a PsychopathicManchild.

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* ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia:''
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Russia of ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' was a [[UsedToBeASweetKid timid, sweet-tempered child]] who [[IJustWantToHaveFriends just wanted to make friends]]...but a combination of being relentlessly bullied by the nations around him and his turbulent history resulted in a SanitySlippage that turned him into a PsychopathicManchild.
27th Jan '17 10:02:11 AM kido-kun
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** AND played straight in Durarara!!×2, specifically, [[spoiler: Aoba]]'s case. That guy is evil alright, but that comes from his childhood, when he was heavily abused by his elder brother. Whose room he burned down eventually.
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