History Franchise / Zorro

20th Jul '16 11:09:29 AM HighCrate
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** In Isabel Allende's novel Diego has a second Zorro outfit and sword made for Bernardo to throw villains for a loop, and Isabel de Romeu butts in with Bernardo's Zorro costume when the villain is DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to have both Diego imprisoned and his men keep an eye on Bernardo in case he donned the Zorro outfit. The epilogue makes clear that in the end Diego is the main Zorro, but both Bernardo and Isabel would wear his costume if needed and can kick just as much ass as him.

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** In Isabel Allende's novel Diego has a second Zorro outfit and sword made for Bernardo to throw villains for a loop, and Isabel de Romeu butts in with Bernardo's Zorro costume when the villain is DangerouslyGenreSavvy smart enough to have both Diego imprisoned and his men keep an eye on Bernardo in case he donned the Zorro outfit. The epilogue makes clear that in the end Diego is the main Zorro, but both Bernardo and Isabel would wear his costume if needed and can kick just as much ass as him.
10th Jul '16 3:43:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo and attempting to murder Diego's family. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order.

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*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy smart enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo and attempting to murder Diego's family. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order.



* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army and its commander were clearly hated by the populace but Raymond proved adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and place to make himself look more generous than he really was. A notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and looking like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. So while Raymond didn't have a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.

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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army and its commander were clearly hated by the populace but Raymond proved adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and place to make himself look more generous than he really was. A notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and looking like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. So while Raymond didn't have a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.
20th Apr '16 7:46:49 PM PaulA
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Think ''TheScarletPimpernel'' moved to California.

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Think ''TheScarletPimpernel'' ''Literature/TheScarletPimpernel'' moved to California.
14th Apr '16 7:42:10 PM overman2099
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army and its commander were clearly hated by the populace. In spite of that, however, Raymond proved quite adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and right place to make himself look more generous and reasonable than he really was. A notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and looking like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. So while Raymond didn't have a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.

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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army and its commander were clearly hated by the populace. In spite of that, however, populace but Raymond proved quite adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and right place to make himself look more generous and reasonable than he really was. A notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and looking like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. So while Raymond didn't have a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.
14th Apr '16 7:40:02 PM overman2099
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** The episode "Killer Guitar" introduced Sabat, an assassin and a sniper who hid his rifle inside his guitar. His episode marked the first time a villain actually killed another character on-screen(a newspaper guy who had been writing against the army). Sabat also came dangerously close to killing Zorro but fortunately, Zorro was prepared and wore bullet-proof padding to block the bullet. Sabat was the only one-shot villain whose legacy lasted beyond a single episode as his brother would come back for revenge against Zorro in a later episode.
*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo and attempting to murder Diego's family. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order. He also fell into the TooDumbToLive category after he fell into his own death trap and refused Zorro's help because his pride and hatred for Zorro was too strong.

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** The episode "Killer Guitar" introduced Sabat, an assassin and a sniper who hid his rifle inside his guitar. His episode marked the first time a villain actually killed another character on-screen(a newspaper guy who had been writing against the army). Sabat also came dangerously close to killing Zorro but fortunately, Zorro was prepared and wore bullet-proof padding to block blocked the bullet. bullet with armor. Sabat was also the only one-shot villain whose legacy lasted beyond a single episode as his brother would come back for revenge against Zorro in a later episode.
*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo and attempting to murder Diego's family. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order. He also fell into the TooDumbToLive category after he fell into his own death trap and refused Zorro's help because his pride and hatred for Zorro was too strong.



** Epically {{Subverted}} in "The Sword from Japan": the episode revolves around a [[KatanasAreJustBetter katana]], [[AbsurdlySharpBlade believed to be able to cut through another sword and kill the man wielding it]], and the three-way fight between the soldiers supposed to deliver it to the governor (Raymund had bought it as a gift for the governor), a group of bandits that want its incredible cutting power, and Zorro, who aims to keep it out of from anyone who could use it for evil, but when the bandit leader gets his hands on it and attacks Zorro is discovered it was a ''bamboo fake''. HilarityEnsues when the governor and Raymund find out.

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** Epically {{Subverted}} in "The Sword from Japan": the episode revolves around a [[KatanasAreJustBetter katana]], [[AbsurdlySharpBlade believed to be able to cut through another sword and kill the man wielding it]], and the three-way fight between the soldiers supposed to deliver it to the governor (Raymund had bought it as a gift for the governor), a group of bandits that want its incredible cutting power, and Zorro, who aims to keep it out of from anyone who could use it for evil, but when the bandit leader gets his hands on it and attacks Zorro is discovered it was a [[HilarityEnsues ''bamboo fake''. HilarityEnsues when the governor and Raymund find out.fake'']]
14th Apr '16 7:37:43 PM overman2099
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army was clearly detested by the populace for its corrupt behavior and as head of the army, Raymond himself naturally received that popular disdain as well. In spite of that, however, Raymond proved quite adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and right place to make himself look more generous and reasonable than he really was. One instance was where he clamped down on Gabriel's obsession for Lolita, stopping Gabriel's stalker-esque behavior on its tracks not out of the goodness of his own heart but to avoid having the army hit with more scandals. Another notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and making himself look like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. More often than not, he was seen lecturing his underlings like Gabriel and Kapital, informing them how to behave in the public eye and telling them that they shouldn't harass certain figures who had the love and respect of the townspeople. So while Raymond may not have had a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to manipulate public opinion and make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.

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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army was and its commander were clearly detested hated by the populace for its corrupt behavior and as head of the army, Raymond himself naturally received that popular disdain as well.populace. In spite of that, however, Raymond proved quite adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and right place to make himself look more generous and reasonable than he really was. One instance was where he clamped down on Gabriel's obsession for Lolita, stopping Gabriel's stalker-esque behavior on its tracks not out of the goodness of his own heart but to avoid having the army hit with more scandals. Another A notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and making himself look looking like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. More often than not, he was seen lecturing his underlings like Gabriel and Kapital, informing them how to behave in the public eye and telling them that they shouldn't harass certain figures who had the love and respect of the townspeople. So while Raymond may not didn't have had a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to manipulate public opinion and make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.
14th Apr '16 7:33:26 PM overman2099
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** The episode "Killer Guitar" introduced Sabat, an assassin and a sniper who hid his rifle inside his guitar. His episode marked the first time a villain actually killed another character on-screen(a newspaper guy who had been writing against the army). Sabat also came dangerously close to killing Zorro but fortunately, Zorro was prepared and wore bullet-proof padding to block the bullet. "Killer Guitar" also established just how ruthless Commander Raymond was as he promptly ordered Sabat's execution at the mere possibility that the guitar sniper could testify against him in court. Also, Sabat was the only one-shot villain whose legacy lasted beyond a single episode as his brother would come back for revenge against Zorro in a later episode.
*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo. And while army officials like Commander Raymond and Lieutenant Gabriel had made attempts before to ruin Diego's family in the past, Sodom went above and beyond, attempting to murder the family maid Maria and brutally beat Diego's father, tying him up and using him as bait to lure Zorro into a death trap. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order. He also fell into the TooDumbToLive category after he fell into his own death trap and refused Zorro's help because his pride and hatred for Zorro was too strong.
** "Tears of Clown" introduced a magician named Black with a magical pendant that gave him both telekinetic and hypnotic powers. Black's magical powers proved potent enough that with the help of his pendant, he was able to inflict some serious injuries to Zorro, via telekinesis and psychically tossing Zorro all over the place. Up to that point, most villains were fortunate to land so much as a scratch on Zorro. It's likely that Black could have unmasked Zorro and handed him to the army but thanks to a distraction by some of Zorro's allies, Zorro regained his [[HeroicSecondWind heroic second wind]] and turned the tables on Black.
** "The Order To Kill Zorro" introduced Teo Angelo, a former schoolmate of Diego's and the man who taught Zorro everything he knew about fencing. After falling from grace and deciding that one needed to have money in order to be powerful, Teo took on an assignment to kill Zorro, his former friend and pupil. In the two fights they had, not only did Teo prove that he could keep up with Zorro, he showed that he was actually superior to Zorro in swordsmanship. Up until that point, practically no other villain could keep up with Zorro in a pure sword fight, making Teo quite possibly the only man in any Zorro continuity who can defeat the masked hero in a contest of swordplay.
** "A Prelude To the Collapse" introduced an enforcer for the South India Trading Company named Death, quite possibly the single most powerful enemy Zorro has faced in any incarnation. Originally sent in to bring Kapital back to Spain, Death became embroiled in a dispute with Zorro who wanted him to hand over Kapitol's notebook in order to bring the South India Trading Company official to trial. In the ensuing battle, not only did Death prove capable of defeating Zorro, he left Diego in a serious critical condition, taking him out of action for the rest of the episode. Towards the end, the South India Trading Company inspector pretty much got to [[TheBadGuyWins sail off into the sunset with Kapital]] with Zorro being unable to do anything about the situation. Though he did show himself to be somewhat of a [[NobleDemon Noble Demon]] as he promised Zorro at the end of the episode that the South India Trading Company would never harass California again(while in the Japanese version with English subtitles, he promises Zorro that Kapital would be put on trial and made to pay for his crimes, in addition to encouraging Zorro to continue to fight for peace and justice).

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** The episode "Killer Guitar" introduced Sabat, an assassin and a sniper who hid his rifle inside his guitar. His episode marked the first time a villain actually killed another character on-screen(a newspaper guy who had been writing against the army). Sabat also came dangerously close to killing Zorro but fortunately, Zorro was prepared and wore bullet-proof padding to block the bullet. "Killer Guitar" also established just how ruthless Commander Raymond was as he promptly ordered Sabat's execution at the mere possibility that the guitar sniper could testify against him in court. Also, Sabat was the only one-shot villain whose legacy lasted beyond a single episode as his brother would come back for revenge against Zorro in a later episode.
*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo. And while army officials like Commander Raymond Bernardo and Lieutenant Gabriel had made attempts before to ruin Diego's family in the past, Sodom went above and beyond, attempting to murder the family maid Maria and brutally beat Diego's father, tying him up and using him as bait to lure Zorro into a death trap.family. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order. He also fell into the TooDumbToLive category after he fell into his own death trap and refused Zorro's help because his pride and hatred for Zorro was too strong.
** "Tears of Clown" introduced a magician named Black with a magical pendant that gave him both telekinetic and hypnotic powers. Black's magical powers proved potent enough that with the help of his pendant, he was able to inflict some a serious injuries to psychic beatdown on Zorro, via telekinesis and psychically tossing Zorro throwing him all over the place. Up to After that point, most villains were fortunate to land so much as a scratch on Zorro. It's likely that [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp]], Black could have nearly unmasked Zorro and handed him to the army but thanks to a distraction by some of Zorro's his allies, Zorro regained his [[HeroicSecondWind heroic second wind]] HeroicSecondWind and turned the tables on Black.
** "The Order To Kill Zorro" introduced Teo Angelo, a former schoolmate of Diego's and the man who taught Zorro everything he knew about fencing. After falling from grace and deciding that one needed to have money in order to be powerful, Teo took on an assignment to kill Zorro, his former friend and pupil. In pupil and was able to defeat Zorro in the two fights they had, not only did Teo prove that he could keep up with Zorro, he showed that he was actually superior to Zorro in swordsmanship. Up until that point, practically no other villain could keep up with Zorro in a pure sword fight, making Teo quite possibly him the only man opponent in any the series who was able to out-fence Zorro continuity who can defeat the masked hero in a contest of swordplay.
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** "A Prelude To the Collapse" introduced an enforcer for the South India Trading Company named Death, Death who was quite possibly the single Zorro's most powerful enemy Zorro has faced opponent in any incarnation. Originally sent in to bring Kapital back to Spain, Death became embroiled he found himself fighting Zorro in a dispute with over Kapital's notebook. After leaving Zorro who wanted him to hand over Kapitol's notebook in order to bring the South India Trading Company official to trial. In the ensuing battle, not only did Death prove capable of defeating Zorro, he left Diego in a serious critical condition, taking him out of action for the rest of the episode. Towards the end, the South India Trading Company inspector pretty much got to [[TheBadGuyWins sail off into the sunset with Kapital]] with Zorro being unable to do anything about the situation. Though Kapital]], though he did show himself to be somewhat of a [[NobleDemon Noble Demon]] as he promised Demon]], promising Zorro at the end of the episode that the South India Trading Company would never harass California again(while in the Japanese version with English subtitles, he promises Zorro that Kapital would be put on trial and made to pay for his crimes, in addition to encouraging Zorro to continue to fight for peace and justice).



*** Beyond epically subverted with [[spoiler: AntiClimaxBoss and the BigBad of the series, Commander Raymond himself. Even though he was THE main villain of the series and the final opponent Zorro faced, he doesn't really last much longer than most of the other One-Shot villains who fought against Zorro and got cut down. In his first duel with Zorro, Raymond appeared to be evenly matched with Zorro who escaped the army with some help from his friends. In the second and final time they face, however, Raymond attacks Zorro and the fight only lasts for a few seconds before Zorro kills him for good and ends his reign as army commander.]]

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*** Beyond epically subverted with [[spoiler: AntiClimaxBoss and the BigBad of the series, Commander Raymond himself. Even though he was THE main villain of the series and the final opponent Zorro faced, he doesn't really last much longer than most of the other One-Shot villains who fought against Zorro and got cut down. In his first duel with Zorro, Raymond appeared to be evenly matched with Zorro who escaped the army with some help from his friends. In the second and final time they face, however, Raymond battle of the series, he attacks Zorro and the fight but only lasts fares for a few seconds before Zorro kills him for good and ends his reign as army commander.good.]]
14th Apr '16 5:18:13 PM FGHIK
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But who is this mysterious Zorro behind his mask? Well, it is certain that it cannot be [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Don Diego (de la) Vega]], even though Don Diego is certainly the right age and of good family. For Don Diego is a useless fop who reads poetry, disdains violence and any form of sweat-inducing activity, and sniffs a perfumed handkerchief when in the presence of his lessers. No, it cannot be he.

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But who is this mysterious Zorro behind his mask? Well, it is certain that it cannot be [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass Don Diego (de la) Vega]], even though Don Diego is certainly the right age and of good family. [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob For Don Diego is a useless fop who reads poetry, disdains violence and any form of sweat-inducing activity, and sniffs a perfumed handkerchief when in the presence of his lessers.lessers]]. No, it cannot be he.
30th Mar '16 10:51:07 PM overman2099
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Zig-zagged with Commander Raymond in the Kaiketsu Zorro anime. The Spanish army was clearly detested by the populace for its corrupt behavior and as head of the army, Raymond himself naturally received that popular disdain as well. In spite of that, however, Raymond proved quite adept at manipulating public opinion, always positioning himself at the right time and right place to make himself look more generous and reasonable than he really was. One instance was where he clamped down on Gabriel's obsession for Lolita, stopping Gabriel's stalker-esque behavior on its tracks not out of the goodness of his own heart but to avoid having the army hit with more scandals. Another notable instance was where Zorro had implicated the army and a corrupt merchant named Diaz in stealing grain from the people. As soon as he was exposed, Raymond acted quickly, shooting Diaz and then promising the people that they could have their grain back while allowing Zorro to leave unharmed as a gesture of good will for "helping" the army uncover Diaz's corruption, thereby avoiding an angry riot and making himself look like a ReasonableAuthorityFigure. More often than not, he was seen lecturing his underlings like Gabriel and Kapital, informing them how to behave in the public eye and telling them that they shouldn't harass certain figures who had the love and respect of the townspeople. So while Raymond may not have had a one hundred percent approval rating, he was still smart and GenreSavvy enough to know how to manipulate public opinion and make himself look reasonable enough in the public eye to avoid outright rioting.
30th Mar '16 10:26:39 PM overman2099
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*** Zig-zagged with the guitar killer's brother, Sodom. In terms of pure villainy, he took it a step further than most other villains, being GenreSavvy enough to figure out Zorro's identity after hypnotizing the entire town until he found out Diego was the man behind the mask from Bernardo. And while army officials like Commander Raymond and Lieutenant Gabriel had made attempts before to ruin Diego's family in the past, Sodom went above and beyond, attempting to murder the family maid Maria and brutally beat Diego's father, tying him up and using him as bait to lure Zorro into a death trap. However, when it came to actual fighting prowess, Sabat's brother ended up faring no better than most of the other One-Shot villains and was defeated by Zorro in short order. He also fell into the TooDumbToLive category after he fell into his own death trap and refused Zorro's help because his pride and hatred for Zorro was too strong.
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