History Franchise / WhenTheyCry

17th Jul '16 10:54:45 AM AlienPatch
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He wanted to scare them.

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[[SurpriseCreepy He wanted to scare them.
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17th Jul '16 10:40:46 AM AlienPatch
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5th Jun '16 11:11:33 AM nombretomado
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* MultipleEndings: In Umineko, you are given the choice between a "trick" ending and a "magic" ending at the very end. In Higurashi, this may be the case if you consider ''Matsuribayashi'' (the original ending) and ''Miotsukushi'' (the PS2 ending) to be equally valid.

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* MultipleEndings: In Umineko, you are given the choice between a "trick" ending and a "magic" ending at the very end. In Higurashi, this may be the case if you consider ''Matsuribayashi'' (the original ending) and ''Miotsukushi'' (the PS2 [=PS2=] ending) to be equally valid.
23rd May '16 6:35:57 AM sorako
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For examples and series-specific notes, please see ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' and ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''. Also see ''Manga/HiganbanaNoSakuYoruNi'', a manga/visual novel penned by Ryukishi07, and ''VisualNovel/RoseGunsDays'', a visual novel by 07th Expansion, neither of which are related to the main series games.

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For examples and series-specific notes, please see ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' and ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''. Also see ''Manga/HiganbanaNoSakuYoruNi'', a manga/visual novel penned by Ryukishi07, [=Ryukishi07=], and ''VisualNovel/RoseGunsDays'', a visual novel by 07th Expansion, neither of which are related to the main series games.
23rd May '16 6:34:13 AM sorako
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** In Umineko, anything the main character sees with his own eyes, (as in, is narrated in first person) is the gospel truth. Anything presented with red text is the gospel truth. Anything that does not fall into one of those two categories may or may not be true, and in fact may not even be such than the statement "That scene really happened that way" is true ''or'' false.
** In Higurashi this is used a lot in the question arcs, simply put, in any of the first 3 novels, from the point where it begins to get weird or scary, it means the main character is hallucinating, being fooled, or anything of the like.

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** In Umineko, ''Umineko'', anything the main character sees with his own eyes, (as in, is narrated in first person) is the gospel truth. Anything presented with red text is the gospel truth. Anything that does not fall into one of those two categories may or may not be true, and in fact may not even be such than the statement "That scene really happened that way" is true ''or'' false.
** In Higurashi ''Higurashi'' this is used a lot in the question arcs, simply put, in any of the first 3 novels, from the point where it begins to get weird or scary, it means the main character is hallucinating, being fooled, or anything of the like.
20th May '16 8:58:06 AM XFllo
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** Okonogi is... Okonogi, though it's unclear whether or not they are one and the same.
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** Featherine, who is made to [[TrollingCreator make the readers wrack their brains]] over a (probably non-existent) connection with Hanyū.

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** Featherine, who is made to [[TrollingCreator make the readers wrack their brains]] brains over a (probably non-existent) connection with Hanyū.Hanyū.
%% ** Okonogi is... Okonogi, though it's unclear whether or not they are one and the same.
20th May '16 8:55:34 AM XFllo
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Is more-or-less guaranteed to happen to at least one character in an adaptation.
* AFateWorseThanDeath - Pity the poor character who actually remembers all the different murders.
* AbusiveParents - Satoko's EvilUncle Teppei and Rosa Ushiromiya both qualify pretty well for this trope, as does Mion and Shion's Abusive Grandparent, Oryou. Rosa is shown to have her reasons for being so abusive (even though her behavior still isn't excusable), and Oryou has a HiddenHeartOfGold, but Teppei is [[ForTheEvulz just evil for the sake of being evil]].
* AllThereInTheManual - The TIPS as well as different arcs that are unique to one medium only.
* AlternateUniverse
* AnyoneCanDie - Multiple times, in fact.
* {{Arc}} - The repetitions. The main games and anime are divided into "Question Arcs" and "Answer Arcs", each of the latter corresponding to one of the former but using different perspectives to solve various mysteries.
** In Umineko, the arcs are stated by WordOfGod to ''not'' be considered "Answer Arcs" and the FanNickname "Core Arcs" has quickly spread.
* BadFuture - Himatsubushi-hen, Yoigoshi-hen, and Onisarashi-hen and its spinoffs, as well as simply the endings for most of the other arcs for Higurashi. Ange's part in Umineko shows a future where only [[spoiler:her aunt Eva]] came back alive from Rokkenjima and pretty much ruined Ange's life.
* BadassFamily - The Sonozakis and the Ushiromiyas, respectively.
* BlandNameProduct
* CainAndAbel
* CassandraTruth
* CreepyChild - Rika and Maria
* CruelAndUnusualDeath
* CuteAndPsycho - As a general rule, the [[DeliberatelyCuteChild cuter the girl]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes the more disturbing]] TheReveal is going to be.
* DeathIsCheap - Initially it seems this way, since the GroundhogDayLoop is in effect, [[spoiler:but in both series, it's subverted. The characters may be alive and kicking again at the beginning of each arc, but their selves who died in the previous world are actually dead for good.]]
* DeconstructorFleet - Umineko purposefully subverts a lot of tropes that were played straight in Higurashi.

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%% * AdaptationDyeJob: Is more-or-less guaranteed to happen to at least one character in an adaptation.
* AFateWorseThanDeath - AFateWorseThanDeath: Pity the poor character who actually remembers all the different murders.
* AbusiveParents - Satoko's EvilUncle Teppei and Rosa Ushiromiya both qualify pretty well for this trope, as does %%* AbusiveParents:
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Mion and Shion's Abusive Grandparent, Oryou. Oryou has a HiddenHeartOfGold.
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Rosa Ushiromiya is shown to have her reasons for being so abusive (even though her behavior still isn't excusable), and Oryou has a HiddenHeartOfGold, but Teppei is [[ForTheEvulz just evil for the sake of being evil]].
excusable).
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* AllThereInTheManual - AllThereInTheManual: The TIPS as well as different arcs that are unique to one medium only.
* %%* AlternateUniverse
%% * AnyoneCanDie - AnyoneCanDie: Multiple times, in fact.
* {{Arc}} - {{Arc}}: The repetitions. The main games and anime are divided into "Question Arcs" and "Answer Arcs", each of the latter corresponding to one of the former but using different perspectives to solve various mysteries.
** In Umineko, the arcs are stated by WordOfGod to ''not'' be considered "Answer Arcs" and the FanNickname "Core Arcs" has quickly spread.
* BadFuture - BadFuture: Himatsubushi-hen, Yoigoshi-hen, and Onisarashi-hen and its spinoffs, as well as simply the endings for most of the other arcs for Higurashi. Ange's part in Umineko shows a future where only [[spoiler:her aunt Eva]] came back alive from Rokkenjima and pretty much ruined Ange's life.
%% * BadassFamily - The Sonozakis and the Ushiromiyas, respectively.
%% * BlandNameProduct
%% * CainAndAbel
%% * CassandraTruth
%% * CreepyChild - Rika and Maria
%% * CruelAndUnusualDeath
* CuteAndPsycho - CuteAndPsycho: As a general rule, the [[DeliberatelyCuteChild cuter the girl]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes the more disturbing]] disturbing TheReveal is going to be.
* DeathIsCheap - : Initially it seems this way, since the GroundhogDayLoop is in effect, [[spoiler:but in both series, it's subverted. The characters may be alive and kicking again at the beginning of each arc, but their selves who died in the previous world are actually dead for good.]]
%% * DeconstructorFleet - Umineko purposefully subverts a lot of tropes that were played straight in Higurashi.



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* {{Determinator}} - Just about every last main character and at least one of the villains.
* DoingInTheWizard - Played with; in ''Higurashi'', [[spoiler:Oyashiro-sama does exist, but has no involvement in the murders]]. In ''Umineko'', the game is to break "the illusion of the witch" and explain the murders with one or several human culprits. [[spoiler:As for the Witches and the Meta-World, whether or not they actually exist is pretty much left for the reader to decide.]]
* EarnYourHappyEnding - Ryukishi07 is fond of putting his characters through the wringer. This just makes it all the more worth it when the happy ending is finally achieved. [[spoiler:While this is played straight in Higurashi, not everyone gets their happy ending in Umineko, making it more [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]].]]

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%% * {{Determinator}} - {{Determinator}}: Just about every last main character and at least one of the villains.
%% * DoingInTheWizard - DoingInTheWizard: Played with; in ''Higurashi'', [[spoiler:Oyashiro-sama does exist, but has no involvement in the murders]]. In ''Umineko'', the game is to break "the illusion of the witch" and explain the murders with one or several human culprits. [[spoiler:As for the Witches and the Meta-World, whether or not they actually exist is pretty much left for the reader to decide.]]
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* EarnYourHappyEnding - EarnYourHappyEnding: Ryukishi07 is fond of putting his characters through the wringer. This just makes it all the more worth it when the happy ending is finally achieved. [[spoiler:While this is played straight achieved in Higurashi, not everyone gets their happy ending in Umineko, making it more [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet]].]]''Higurashi''.



* [[spoiler: EnemyWithout: Bernkastel is one to Rika Furude.]]
* EpilogueLetter - Always in the first arc.
* {{Expy}} - Higurashi's own notable one is Chie-sensei, who is a {{Homage}} to [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Ciel]]. And Umineko has several ones from Higurashi.

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%% * [[spoiler: EnemyWithout: Bernkastel is one to Rika Furude.]]
Furude.
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* EpilogueLetter - Always in the first arc.
* {{Expy}} - {{Expy}}:
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Higurashi's own notable one is Chie-sensei, who is a {{Homage}} to [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Ciel]]. And Umineko has several ones from Higurashi.Ciel]].



** Okonogi is… Okonogi, though it's unclear whether or not they are one and the same.
** Same as above, Amakusa is one of Higurashi's [[TheMenInBlack Men in Black]] called Hibari 13.
** And then there is Featherine, who is made to [[TrollingCreator make the readers wrack their brains]] over a (probably non-existent) connection with Hanyū.
* FailureIsTheOnlyOption - ''When They Cry'' has an interesting tendency to [[spoiler:invert this]].
* FallenHero - [[spoiler: Whatever is carried over from Rika Furude (the actual main character of Higurashi) to the Witch Bernkastel (actual antagonist of Umineko)]]
** More likely [[spoiler: what you would get if you took all the suffering of thousands of cycles of death and didn't carry over the single final "happy end" memories. [[EnemyWithout It explains.....quite a bit.]]]]
* FutureBadass - Mion in Higurashi, Ange in Umineko.
* {{Gorn}}
* GoOutWithASmile
* GroundhogPeggySue
* ImmortalImmaturity
* InfantImmortality - [[AvertedTrope Ahahahahaha...no]]. Just because you're a youngster, don't think for a ''second'' that your safety is guaranteed.
* InvisibleToNormals - Hanyuu in Higurashi, and witches and other magical beings to some extent in Umineko [[spoiler:since from an anti-fantasy perspective, many of them are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]]]].
* JigsawPuzzlePlot
* KillEmAll - This series is infamous for its abuse of this trope.
* LoveMakesYouCrazy - And when you have that, LoveMakesYouEvil too.

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** Okonogi is… is... Okonogi, though it's unclear whether or not they are one and the same.
%%%% What? This example should be explained. Non-fans might read this page also.
** Same as above, Amakusa is one of Higurashi's [[TheMenInBlack Men in Black]] called Hibari 13.
** And then there is Featherine, who is made to [[TrollingCreator make the readers wrack their brains]] over a (probably non-existent) connection with Hanyū.
%% * FailureIsTheOnlyOption - ''When They Cry'' has an interesting tendency to [[spoiler:invert this]].
%% * FallenHero - [[spoiler: Whatever is carried over from Rika Furude (the actual main character of Higurashi) to the Witch Bernkastel (actual antagonist of Umineko)]]
**
Umineko)]] More likely [[spoiler: what you would get if you took all the suffering of thousands of cycles of death and didn't carry over the single final "happy end" memories. [[EnemyWithout It explains.....quite a bit.]]]]
%% * FutureBadass - Mion in Higurashi, Ange in Umineko.
* %%* {{Gorn}}
* %%* GoOutWithASmile
* %%* GroundhogPeggySue
* %%* ImmortalImmaturity
* InfantImmortality - [[AvertedTrope Ahahahahaha...no]].InfantImmortality: AvertedTrope. Just because you're a youngster, don't think for a ''second'' that your safety is guaranteed.
%% * InvisibleToNormals - InvisibleToNormals: Hanyuu in Higurashi, and witches and other magical beings to some extent in Umineko [[spoiler:since from an anti-fantasy perspective, many of them are [[ImaginaryFriend Imaginary Friends]]]].
%% * JigsawPuzzlePlot
%% * KillEmAll - This series is infamous for its abuse of this trope.
%% * LoveMakesYouCrazy - And when you have that, LoveMakesYouEvil too.



* MindScrew
** MindScrewdriver - ''Kai'' in relation to the first season of ''Higurashi''.
*** Similarly, ''Chiru'' in relation to the Umineko Question Arcs, although by a lesser degree since these arcs are meant to provide hints rather than give outright answers. ''Requiem of the Golden Witch'' is the closest thing Umineko has to an actual answer arc.
* MistakenForMurderer
* MoodWhiplash - Higurashi's arcs always begin cute and light-hearted and end… less cute and less light-hearted. Umineko follows a similar pattern in the first four arcs, but much less so in ''Chiru''.
* MultipleEndings - In Umineko, you are given the choice between a "trick" ending and a "magic" ending at the very end. In Higurashi, this may be the case if you consider ''Matsuribayashi'' (the original ending) and ''Miotsukushi'' (the PS2 ending) to be equally valid.
* TheMultiverse - The sea of Fragments. Each Fragment represents an alternate reality, and there are quadrillions of them. The {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s in both series actually use this.
* NeverOneMurder - Never EVER.
* NiceHat: Rena from Higurashi and Kanon from Umineko both have nice berets. [[ShoutOut And nice cleavers.]] Virgilia also has a magnificent hat.
* OffModel - The anime started off looking awful in the first season of ''Higurashi'', but ArtEvolution has slowly taken place; ''Higurashi Kai'' and ''Rei'' have very pretty character work, and ''Umineko'' has settled into a happy medium between the characters and [[SceneryPorn the backgrounds]]. The Umineko anime has had a few severely off-model scenes, but seems to be more consistent generally.
* OneSideOfTheStory

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%% * MindScrew
** MindScrewdriver - ''Kai'' in relation to the first season of ''Higurashi''.
*** Similarly,
MindScrew: ''Chiru'' in relation to the Umineko Question Arcs, although by a lesser degree since these arcs are meant to provide hints rather than give outright answers. ''Requiem of the Golden Witch'' is the closest thing Umineko has to an actual answer arc.
%% * MindScrewdriver - ''Kai'' in relation to the first season of ''Higurashi''.
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* MistakenForMurderer
* MoodWhiplash - MoodWhiplash: Higurashi's arcs always begin cute and light-hearted and end… less cute and less light-hearted. Umineko follows a similar pattern in the first four arcs, but much less so in ''Chiru''.
* MultipleEndings - MultipleEndings: In Umineko, you are given the choice between a "trick" ending and a "magic" ending at the very end. In Higurashi, this may be the case if you consider ''Matsuribayashi'' (the original ending) and ''Miotsukushi'' (the PS2 ending) to be equally valid.
* TheMultiverse - TheMultiverse: The sea of Fragments. Each Fragment represents an alternate reality, and there are quadrillions of them. The {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s in both series actually use this.
%% * NeverOneMurder - NeverOneMurder: Never EVER.
%% * NiceHat: Rena from Higurashi and Kanon from Umineko both have nice berets. [[ShoutOut And nice cleavers.]] Virgilia also has a magnificent hat.
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* OffModel - OffModel: The anime started off looking awful in the first season of ''Higurashi'', but ArtEvolution has slowly taken place; ''Higurashi Kai'' and ''Rei'' have very pretty character work, and ''Umineko'' has settled into a happy medium between the characters and [[SceneryPorn the backgrounds]]. The Umineko anime has had a few severely off-model scenes, but seems to be more consistent generally.
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* PaintingTheMedium - In Umineko, anything said in "Red text" is true. Don't ask me how the concept of red text makes any sense to people speaking out loud, but that's how even they refer to it. Blue text also eventually gets a special rule attached to it.
** In the anime, when red or blue text is being used it appears in front of the person speaking.
* ParentWithNewParamour: Rena's father with Rina, and Rudolf with Kyrie. The latter doesn't quite go as badly as the former [[spoiler:unless you think that Kyrie unleashed the Rokkenjima massacre, that is…]]
* PeggySue
* PsychologicalHorror

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* PaintingTheMedium - PaintingTheMedium: In Umineko, anything said in "Red text" is true. Don't ask me how the concept of red text makes any sense to people speaking out loud, but that's how even they refer to it. Blue text also eventually gets a special rule attached to it.
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it. In the anime, when red or blue text is being used it appears in front of the person speaking.
%% * ParentWithNewParamour: Rena's father with Rina, and Rudolf with Kyrie. The latter doesn't quite go as badly as the former [[spoiler:unless you think that Kyrie unleashed the Rokkenjima massacre, that is…]]
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* PeggySue
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* RedOniBlueOni
* ReligiousHorror: Higurashi with Shintoism, and Umineko with Western occult lore in general while mainly focusing on Christianity.
* SelfMadeOrphan
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong - Both [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Ange]] and [[spoiler:[[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Rika]]]] set out to do this. [[spoiler:Rika succeeds, Ange doesn't.]]
* [[spoiler:SilentScapegoat - Hanyuu/Oyashiro-sama, Beatrice and Eva Ushiromiya.]]
* SlidingScaleOfComedyAndHorror - The series draws on both sides.
* SlidingScaleOfFateVsFreeWill - Type 2.
* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism - Draws from both sides of the scale. Higurashi is quite idealistic, Umineko less so.

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%% * ReligiousHorror: Higurashi with Shintoism, and Umineko with Western occult lore in general while mainly focusing on Christianity.
%% * SelfMadeOrphan
%% * SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong - SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Both [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Ange]] and [[spoiler:[[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Rika]]]] set out to do this. [[spoiler:Rika succeeds, Ange doesn't.]]
%% * [[spoiler:SilentScapegoat SilentScapegoat - Hanyuu/Oyashiro-sama, Beatrice and Eva Ushiromiya.]]
Ushiromiya.
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* SlidingScaleOfComedyAndHorror - The series draws on both sides.
%% * SlidingScaleOfFateVsFreeWill - Type 2.
%% * SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism - Draws from both sides of the scale. Higurashi is quite idealistic, Umineko less so.



* StoryToGameplayRatio - The original computer games' is 1:0. They're more or less...well, novels; the only trait that could merit calling these "games" is the fact that they happen to be software. The video game console ports and installments for ''Higurashi'' add the ''slightest'' bit of gameplay to decide what path you're stuck on for that reading and in the second and third games in the DS remakes, [[MultipleEndings determine your ending in some arcs]]. ''Umineko'' doesn't get any gameplay added to it in its remakes, and the only choices the player can make are in [=EP8=] during the puzzle minigame and towards the end, which determines one of two endings to the series.
* SwitchedAtBirth - In Umineko [[spoiler:Rudolf somehow swiched the children of his wife Asumu (who was stillborn) and of his mistress and current wife Kyrie (who gave birth to Battler), making it look like Battler was Asumu's child.]] In Higurashi, it's not exactly a case of switch at birth, but rather of a TwinSwitch gone wrong [[spoiler:Shion took the place of her sister for a special event and received the Oni tatoo by mistake, forcing her to become Mion for the rest of her life.]]

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* StoryToGameplayRatio - StoryToGameplayRatio: The original computer games' is 1:0. They're more or less...well, less novels; the only trait that could merit calling these "games" is the fact that they happen to be software. The video game console ports and installments for ''Higurashi'' add the ''slightest'' bit of gameplay to decide what path you're stuck on for that reading and in the second and third games in the DS remakes, [[MultipleEndings determine your ending in some arcs]]. ''Umineko'' doesn't get any gameplay added to it in its remakes, and the only choices the player can make are in [=EP8=] during the puzzle minigame and towards the end, which determines one of two endings to the series.
* SwitchedAtBirth - SwitchedAtBirth: In Umineko [[spoiler:Rudolf somehow swiched the children of his wife Asumu (who was stillborn) and of his mistress and current wife Kyrie (who gave birth to Battler), making it look like Battler was Asumu's child.]] In Higurashi, it's not exactly a case of switch at birth, but rather of a TwinSwitch gone wrong [[spoiler:Shion took the place of her sister for a special event and received the Oni tatoo by mistake, forcing her to become Mion for the rest of her life.]]



* ThirdPersonPerson - Rena and, to a higher degree, Maria.
* TookALevelInBadass -
* {{Troll}}: Lots of them at that. Umineko is nick named "Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls".
* {{Tsundere}} - Several, yet none of them are really conventional examples. Mion in Higurashi and Jessica in Umineko are both relatively balanced between their "tsun" and their "dere". Rosa can't decide whether she loves her daughter or wishes she was never born. Lambdadelta is this towards Bernkastel in a rather… [[{{Yandere}} creepy sort of way.]] And then there is [[spoiler:Beatrice, who mistreats this trope as much as she mistreats Battler.]]
* UnreliableNarrator - Used and sort of inverted. Anything the main character sees with his own eyes, (as in, is narrated in first person) is the gospel truth. Anything presented with red text is the gospel truth. Anything that does not fall into one of those two categories may or may not be true, and in fact may not even be such than the statement "That scene really happened that way" is true ''or'' false.
** The above is Umineko only, in Higurashi [[spoiler:this is used a lot in the question arcs, simply put, in any of the first 3 novels, from the point where it begins to get weird or scary, it means the main character is hallucinating, being fooled, or anything of the like]].
** The golden rule for the games is pretty much don't trust anything you see/read/hear until you go through the answer arc (Higurashi) or until something is confirmed that you can trust it (Umineko)
* VerbalTic: Quite a few characters have this:
** ''Higurashi'' has Rika's "mii" (the sound a kitten makes) and "nipaa" (a Japanese onomatopoeia for smiling), as well as Hanyuu's "hau au au" whenever she gets scared or upset. Hanyuu mentions that [[TheDitz she heard the sound from a porn video and thought it sounded cute]] in an episode preview.
** ''Umineko'' has Maria's "uu-". This isn't just a random noise, however, since [[spoiler:Maria believes that it's a spell for happiness]]. It's also [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], since the sound of it irritates Rosa to the point that she'll [[AbusiveParents hit Maria for saying it too much]], and it's one of the reasons why other children bully her.
* [[spoiler:VillainBasedFranchise]] Kinda sorta… [[spoiler:Rika wasn't a villain in Higurashi, and it's unclear whether Frederical Bernkastel and Umineko's Bernkastel are one and the same.]]
* TheWatcher - Actually, the same character in both (… maybe) - (Frederica) Bernkastel.

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%% * ThirdPersonPerson - ThirdPersonPerson: Rena and, to a higher degree, Maria.
%% * TookALevelInBadass -
TookALevelInBadass
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* {{Troll}}: Lots of them at that. Umineko is nick named "Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls".
trolls".
* {{Tsundere}} - Several, yet none of them are really conventional examples. {{Tsundere}}: Rosa can't decide whether she loves her daughter or wishes she was never born.
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Mion in Higurashi and Jessica in Umineko are both relatively balanced between their "tsun" and their "dere". Rosa can't decide whether she loves her daughter or wishes she was never born. "dere".
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Lambdadelta is this towards Bernkastel in a rather… [[{{Yandere}} creepy sort of way.]] And then there is [[spoiler:Beatrice, way]].
%% ** Beatrice,
who mistreats this trope as much as she mistreats Battler.]]
Battler.
* UnreliableNarrator - Used and sort of inverted. Anything UnreliableNarrator: The golden rule for the games is pretty much don't trust anything you see/read/hear until you go through the answer arc (Higurashi) or until something is confirmed that you can trust it (Umineko).
** In Umineko, anything
the main character sees with his own eyes, (as in, is narrated in first person) is the gospel truth. Anything presented with red text is the gospel truth. Anything that does not fall into one of those two categories may or may not be true, and in fact may not even be such than the statement "That scene really happened that way" is true ''or'' false.
** The above is Umineko only, in In Higurashi [[spoiler:this this is used a lot in the question arcs, simply put, in any of the first 3 novels, from the point where it begins to get weird or scary, it means the main character is hallucinating, being fooled, or anything of the like]].
like.
* VerbalTic:
** The golden rule for the games is pretty much don't trust anything you see/read/hear until you go through the answer arc (Higurashi) or until something is confirmed that you can trust it (Umineko)
* VerbalTic: Quite a few characters have this:
** ''Higurashi'' has
''Higurashi'':
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Rika's "mii" (the sound a kitten makes) and "nipaa" (a Japanese onomatopoeia for smiling), as well as smiling)
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Hanyuu's "hau au au" whenever she gets scared or upset. Hanyuu mentions that [[TheDitz she heard the sound from a porn video and thought it sounded cute]] in an episode preview.
** ''Umineko'' has Maria's "uu-". This isn't just a random noise, however, since [[spoiler:Maria believes that it's a spell for happiness]]. It's also [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], since the The sound of it irritates Rosa to the point that she'll [[AbusiveParents hit Maria for saying it too much]], and it's one of the reasons why other children bully her.
%% * [[spoiler:VillainBasedFranchise]] VillainBasedFranchise: Kinda sorta… [[spoiler:Rika wasn't a villain in Higurashi, and it's unclear whether Frederical Bernkastel and Umineko's Bernkastel are one and the same.]]
%% * TheWatcher - Actually, the same character in both (… maybe) - TheWatcher: (Frederica) Bernkastel.



* {{Yandere}}: [[spoiler:[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Shion. Freaking. Sonozaki.]]]] That is all.
** [[spoiler:Kyrie. Freaking. Ushiromiya.]] in Umineko.
* YouCantFightFate - [[spoiler:Subverted in Higurashi, played straight in Umineko.]]

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%% * {{Yandere}}: {{Yandere}}:
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[[spoiler:[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Shion. Freaking. Sonozaki.]]]] That is all.
%% ** [[spoiler:Kyrie. Freaking. Ushiromiya.]] in Umineko.
%% * YouCantFightFate - YouCantFightFate: [[spoiler:Subverted in Higurashi, played straight in Umineko.]]
21st Feb '16 6:59:15 AM Phoenixion
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** ''Onikakushi-hen'' (鬼隠し編, "Abducted By Demons Arc"). The "Keiichi arc". Keiichi moves into Hinamizawa and suspects Rena and Mion of involvement with the murders after he finds that they've been lying to him about the village's past.

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** ''Onikakushi-hen'' [[/index]]''Onikakushi-hen'' (鬼隠し編, "Abducted By Demons Arc"). The "Keiichi arc". Keiichi moves into Hinamizawa and suspects Rena and Mion of involvement with the murders after he finds that they've been lying to him about the village's past.



[[index]]



** ''Tsukiotoshi-hen'' (憑落し編, "Exorcism chapter"). A [=PS2=]-exclusive arc that resembles ''Tatarigoroshi-hen'' in that Satoko's uncle Teppei is the main threat. Keiichi still takes matters into his own hands, but this time, he is accompanied by Shion and Rena, and all of them start to hallucinate afterward.

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** ''Tsukiotoshi-hen'' [[/index]]''Tsukiotoshi-hen'' (憑落し編, "Exorcism chapter"). A [=PS2=]-exclusive arc that resembles ''Tatarigoroshi-hen'' in that Satoko's uncle Teppei is the main threat. Keiichi still takes matters into his own hands, but this time, he is accompanied by Shion and Rena, and all of them start to hallucinate afterward.



[[index]]



** ''Nekogoroshi-hen'' (猫殺し編, "Cat Killing chapter"). Mion relates the story of a murdered friend. This was also made into a bonus OVA between the release of the first and second seasons.

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** ''Nekogoroshi-hen'' [[/index]]''Nekogoroshi-hen'' (猫殺し編, "Cat Killing chapter"). Mion relates the story of a murdered friend. This was also made into a bonus OVA between the release of the first and second seasons.



[[index]]



** ''Legend of the golden witch''. The "Beatrice Arc." Like ''Onikakushi-hen'', this is an introduction to the setting and to the legend of the witch Beatrice. A sorority of witches, each with her own motivations, begins to give Battler cryptic clues. Natsuhi is the prominent adult character of the arc.

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** ''Legend [[/index]]''Legend of the golden witch''. The "Beatrice Arc." Like ''Onikakushi-hen'', this is an introduction to the setting and to the legend of the witch Beatrice. A sorority of witches, each with her own motivations, begins to give Battler cryptic clues. Natsuhi is the prominent adult character of the arc.



[[/index]]
31st Jan '16 1:07:22 PM Lyendith
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Added DiffLines:

In 2016 started ''Hotarubi no Tomoru Koro ni'', a manga drawn by Koike Nokuto and published in the new magazine ''Monthly Action''. It stars Higurashi's character Takano as a protagonist.
17th Jan '16 5:44:42 AM Smeagol17
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*** ''Tokihogushi-hen'' (解々し編, "Untangling Chapter"). A DS-Port Prequel chapter that involves Tomoe Minai in a case of Rena Ryugu in 1982, one year prior to the event of the story.

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*** ''Tokihogushi-hen'' (解々し編, "Untangling Chapter"). A DS-Port Prequel chapter that involves Tomoe Minai in a case of Rena Ryugu in 1982, one year prior to the event events of the story.
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