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4th Nov '15 6:50:01 AM TheWanderer
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* RegretfulTraitor: Deconstructed several times. ** Roland's father had a cook who was a FriendToAllChildren, was kind to Roland and his friends when Roland was a kid, and was reluctant to obey Farson's orders to poison guests to a feast. After the cook was caught and executed, Roland's father summed it up by saying that the man only betrayed them reluctantly... but that reluctance wouldn't have stopped children from dying in agony after being poisoned. ** Several of the higher-ups of Mejis from ''Wizard and Glass'' have private thoughts where they regret allying with Farson and come to doubt that any good will come of it. They never do anything to make up for the betrayal, however, and are promptly killed by [[TheHeavy Jonas and the Coffin Hunters]] for being a potential liability and to frame Roland and friends.
15th Sep '15 10:31:25 AM drbreakfast
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* AIIsACrapshoot: The robots are all at least thousands of years old. Most of these that have not broken down completely have become homicidal. Blaine the Mono and Andy the Messenger Robot are two of the worst examples. Nigel and Stuttering Bill are the only two who remain friendly and helpful. There is also one robot wandering around the dead town of Fedic advertising for a brothel that has probably not operated for Gan knows how long, which just emphasises that the world has moved on.

* AIIsACrapshoot: The robots are all at least thousands of years old. Most of these that have not broken down completely have become homicidal. Blaine the Mono and Andy the Messenger Robot are two of the worst examples. Nigel and Stuttering Bill are the only two who remain friendly and helpful. There is also one robot wandering around the dead town of Fedic advertising for a brothel that has probably not operated for Gan knows how long, which just emphasises that the world has moved on.
15th Sep '15 10:30:53 AM drbreakfast
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* {{AKA47}}: Roland's revolvers go by a handful of generic names like Sandalwood Guns, and the text never specifies which real-world firearm they're supposed to represent. Based on the details given, they're a nearly perfect match for the Colt New Service.
11th Aug '15 12:58:38 AM Mad_Spy
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* {{Retcon}}: In ''Literature/TheWasteLands,'' Oy is distinguished from his fellow billy-bumblers by missing his tail. In later books, he is described wrapping his long cork-screw tail around himself occasionally. This is never explained. Later editions remove the mentions of him being tailless. He merely has sever scarring on his haunches, and the ka-tet theorizes he was forcibly kicked out of his pack for being a chatterbox.
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* {{Retcon}}: In ''Literature/TheWasteLands,'' Oy is distinguished from his fellow billy-bumblers by missing his tail. In later books, he is described wrapping his long cork-screw tail around himself occasionally. This is never explained. Later editions remove the mentions of him being tailless. He merely has sever severe scarring on his haunches, and the ka-tet theorizes he was forcibly kicked out of his pack for being a chatterbox.
11th Aug '15 12:50:48 AM Mad_Spy
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** Shardik, an enourmous and ancient cyborg bear, is defeated by Suzanne with a shot to its weak spot.
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** Shardik, an enourmous enormous and ancient cyborg bear, is defeated by Suzanne with a shot to its weak spot.
22nd Jul '15 11:55:09 AM Bishop999
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** The entire town of Tull, including a strangely formidable cult leader, turns against Roland all at once. He slaughters everyone without ever being in danger.
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** The entire town of Tull, including a strangely formidable cult leader, turns against Roland all at once. He slaughters everyone without ever being with only a few wounds that do nothing at all to slow him down, although in danger.the second book it's revealed that killing them cost him almost half his remaining ammunition.
14th Jun '15 5:21:47 PM nombretomado
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* WritersCannotDoMath: It's inconsistent what year Susannah came from. In the second book, it's stated that it's been three months since the assassination of [[JohnFKennedy JFK]]; that means it's February 1964. Not much later, it's stated that August 19, 1959 (when she lost her legs) was five and a half years before; that means it's February 1965. In the third book, the year is several times said to be 1963. In the following books, it's consistently stated to be 1964. However, in the sixth book, she reminiscences about the murders of Civil Rights activists James Cheney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner, which happened in June 1964. It might be a [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] on this that Susannah thinks in the seventh book that she lived in America until 1964 "or was it '65?".
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* WritersCannotDoMath: It's inconsistent what year Susannah came from. In the second book, it's stated that it's been three months since the assassination of [[JohnFKennedy [[UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy JFK]]; that means it's February 1964. Not much later, it's stated that August 19, 1959 (when she lost her legs) was five and a half years before; that means it's February 1965. In the third book, the year is several times said to be 1963. In the following books, it's consistently stated to be 1964. However, in the sixth book, she reminiscences about the murders of Civil Rights activists James Cheney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner, which happened in June 1964. It might be a [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] on this that Susannah thinks in the seventh book that she lived in America until 1964 "or was it '65?".
5th Jun '15 5:16:43 PM TinyTedDanson
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* RaceAgainstTime: Outside of the whole "reach the Dark Tower" for the central objective, there tends to be a "serious impending deadline" plot-thread [[OncePerEpisode once per book]]: ** ''The Drawing of Three'': Roland spends the book racing to draw his three before the lobstrocity poison can work it's way into his heart. ** ''The Wastelands'': Jake must be pulled back to Mid-World with a perfect key at the right time lest he be killed. Later, after Jake is kidnapped by Gasher of the Greys, Roland and Oy must follow Gasher through several booby-traps before they lose his scent. Finally, the ka-tet must escape Lud before it is destroyed around them. ** ''Wizard and Glass'': Blaine the Mono has to be bested in a game of riddles before they reach the end of the line, where Blaine will deliberately crash and kill the passengers in spite. ** ''Song of Susannah'': One of the primary plot threads, as [[spoiler:the ka-tet effectively sidelines the Dark Tower to rescue Susannah from Mia, among other things.]] ** ''The Dark Tower'': [[spoiler:Firstly the ka-tet has to liberate Thunderclap before the Beam is broken, and then must save Stephen King from being hit and killed by a van.]]
3rd Jun '15 4:17:12 PM TinyTedDanson
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Unspoiled readers should use caution when reading this article. Although major spoilers are blocked out, some of the descriptions have minor spoilers for events later on in the books.
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Unspoiled '''Unspoiled readers should use caution when reading this article. Although the later and more major spoilers are blocked out, some of the descriptions have minor spoilers for events later on in from the books. first four books[[note]]''The Gunslinger'', ''The Drawing Of Three'', ''The Wastelands'' and ''Wizard and Glass''[[/note]] can and will be unmarked.'''

* AntiHero: Roland, at first. [[spoiler:He allows Jake Chambers to fall to his death, rather than be delayed to try and save him.]] * AnyoneCanDie: And most do. [[spoiler:Only Susannah and Roland survive of the ''ka-tet'', and most of the supporting cast is also dead.]]
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* AntiHero: Roland, at first. [[spoiler:He He allows Jake Chambers to fall to his death, rather than be delayed to try and save him.]] risk losing The Man In Black. * AnyoneCanDie: And most do. [[spoiler:Only Susannah Come the series finale, [[spoiler:Susannah and Roland survive are the only survivors of the ''ka-tet'', and most of the supporting cast is also dead.]]

* AntiHero: Roland, at first. [[spoiler:He allows Jake Chambers ** "Dad-a-chum, dud-a-chee, not to fall to his death, rather than be delayed to try and save him.]] * AnyoneCanDie: And most do. [[spoiler:Only Susannah and Roland survive of worry, you've got the ''ka-tet'', and most of the supporting cast is also dead.]]key." ** "Ka?" "Ka." "Kaka."

* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Roland climbs the Tower, entering room after room where he's shown imagery of key events from his life. He finally reaches the top, and finds a door which he opens. The door opens onto the desert in the first book, and Roland realizes the horrible truth: he's been here before. Many times over. And each and every time, he is cast on to the desert, with his wounds healed and memories erased. However, this time he has the Horn of Eld, which he had previously abandoned in haste, in his possession, and it's implied that if he does it right, this time might the final time he's forced to re-walk his path to the Tower.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: The series finale, on two counts: ** Firstly, [[spoiler:Susannah decides she's tired of being a gunslinger and, weary from losing Eddie and Jake, has Patrick create a final "Unfound" door for her. After a bitter goodbye with Roland and Oy, she crosses over even though it could lead to todash darkness. An epilogue shows she went to another New York, meeting a parallel-universe Eddie and Jake, who are brothers in this universe and partially carry the memories of their dead selves. Feeling her own memories of Midworld fading, the three settle back into normal life, apparently crossing paths with an alternate Oy in the near future.]] ** Secondly, [[spoiler:Roland climbs the Tower, entering room after room where he's shown imagery of key events from his life. He finally reaches the top, and finds a door which he opens. The door opens onto the desert in the first book, and Roland realizes the horrible truth: he's been here before. Many times over. And each and every time, he is cast on to the desert, with his wounds healed and memories erased. However, this time he has the Horn of Eld, which he had previously abandoned in haste, in his possession, and it's implied that if he does it right, this time might the final time he's forced to re-walk his path to the Tower.]]

** Played with in ''Literature/TheDrawingOfTheThree'', when [[spoiler:it causes the gun to explode in the holder's face.]]
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** Played with in ''Literature/TheDrawingOfTheThree'', when [[spoiler:it it causes the gun to explode in the holder's face.]]

* BookEnds: [[spoiler:"The man in black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed." is the first and last sentence in the series, from an internal perspective.]]
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* BookEnds: [[spoiler:"The The whole series [[spoiler:has "The man in black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed." is as the first and last sentence in the series, from an internal perspective.]]

* ChasedOffIntoTheSunset: Used in a very spoileriffic fashion. [[spoiler:[[BookEnds The last line of the last book is the same as the first line of the first book]]: "The Man In Black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed."]] * TheChessmaster: Marten Broadcloak in the back-story of Roland's homeland of Gilead, who was responsible for organizing the forces that wrought its downfall. [[spoiler:Marten's other alias, Walter, who organizes several "traps" for Roland in the Mohaine Desert.]] * ComedyAsAWeapon: Eddie does this literally in ''Literature/WizardAndGlass''. [[spoiler:When it turns out that Roland is losing to Blaine the Mono in a riddling contest, Eddie realises that some of his nonsensical jokes technically pass as riddles. Blaine gradually breaks down mentally and eventually commits "suicide" when he realises he's lost.]]
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* ChasedOffIntoTheSunset: Used in a very spoileriffic fashion. [[spoiler:[[BookEnds The In ''The Dark Tower'', [[spoiler:The last line of the last book is the same as the first line of the first book]]: book: "The Man In Black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed."]] * TheChessmaster: Marten Broadcloak in the back-story of Roland's homeland of Gilead, who was responsible for organizing the forces that wrought its downfall. [[spoiler:Marten's Marten's other alias, Walter, who organizes several "traps" for Roland in the Mohaine Desert.]] Desert. * ComedyAsAWeapon: Eddie does this literally in ''Literature/WizardAndGlass''. [[spoiler:When When it turns out that Roland is losing to Blaine the Mono in a riddling contest, Eddie realises that some of his nonsensical jokes technically pass as riddles. Blaine gradually breaks down mentally and eventually commits "suicide" when he realises he's lost.]]

* CompoundInterestTimeTravelGambit: [[spoiler:Eddie's plan to make the Tet Corporation more powerful than Sombra rests on making investments in 1977 that will reap huge profits by 1987.]]
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* CompoundInterestTimeTravelGambit: In ''The Dark Tower'', [[spoiler:Eddie's plan to make the Tet Corporation more powerful than Sombra rests on making investments in 1977 that will reap huge profits by 1987.]]

* DarkIsNotEvil: The title Dark Tower [[spoiler:is the axis upon which the countless realities and universes spin, and is implied to be the manifestation of the creator Gan Itself]]
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* DarkIsNotEvil: The title Dark Tower [[spoiler:is the axis upon which the countless realities and universes spin, and is implied to be the manifestation of the creator Gan Itself]]Itself.]]

* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler:Jake. The first time by falling to his death, the second time by leaping in front of a car to push Stephen King to safety.]]
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* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler:Jake. The first time by falling to his death, Jake, who falls soundlessly into the second time by leaping an abyss in front of a car to push Stephen King to safety.]]''The Gunslinger''.

* FullFrontalAssault: In ''Drawing of the Three'', Balazar forces Eddie to strip naked to prove that he's not hiding his cocaine. Once Eddie figures out that [[spoiler:Balazar killed his brother]], he and Roland have an all-out gun battle with Balazar's goons. ''While'' Eddie's naked. * GainaxEnding: [[spoiler:Susannah goes off to live in an alternate universe with ReplacementGoldfish versions of her dead friends, and Roland finds out that he's been stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop his entire life. Also, the Dark Tower turns out to be filled with relics from Roland's life, and its top floor houses a time warp that takes him back to the beginning of his quest. The only thing that stops it from being a full blown example of this trope is that now Roland has the Horn of Gilead in his bag, marking the first significant change in the loop thus far]].
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* FullFrontalAssault: In ''Drawing of the Three'', Balazar forces Eddie to strip naked to prove that he's not hiding his cocaine. Once Eddie figures out that [[spoiler:Balazar Balazar killed his brother]], brother, he and Roland have an all-out gun battle with Balazar's goons. ''While'' Eddie's naked. * GainaxEnding: In the last book, [[spoiler:Susannah goes off to live in an alternate universe with ReplacementGoldfish versions of her dead friends, and Roland finds out that he's been stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop his entire life. Also, the Dark Tower turns out to be filled with relics from Roland's life, and its top floor houses a time warp that takes him back to the beginning of his quest. The only thing that stops it from being a full blown example of this trope is that now Roland has the Horn of Gilead in his bag, marking the first significant change in the loop thus far]].

* JediMindTrick: [[spoiler:Jake's key in Book III, Susannah's turtle in Book VI.]]
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* JediMindTrick: [[spoiler:Jake's Jake's key in Book III, III. [[spoiler:Also Susannah's turtle in Book VI.]]

* KudzuPlot: [[spoiler: King adds an increasingly large number of side-plots and characters in the later books. We have Father Callahan, Mia and her "chap", the storyline with Stephen King, their attempts to get Calvin Tower to sign over the least for the plot with the Rose, and so forth.]]
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* KudzuPlot: [[spoiler: King adds an increasingly large number of side-plots and characters in the later books. We [[spoiler:We have Father Callahan, Mia and her "chap", the storyline with Stephen King, their attempts to get Calvin Tower to sign over the least for the plot with the Rose, and so forth.]]

* LostTechnology: The Great Old Ones left a wide range of advanced relics behind when they destroyed themselves, including [[spoiler:Blaine the Slow Trans Mono Train, Shardik the Bear, war machines such as tanks, and so forth.]]
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* LostTechnology: The Great Old Ones left a wide range of advanced relics behind when they destroyed themselves, including [[spoiler:Blaine Blaine the Slow Trans Mono Train, Shardik the Bear, war machines such as tanks, and so forth.]]

* MustMakeAmends: Roland, the "good guy," ends up [[spoiler:letting Jake, a boy he has grown to love, fall to his death by dropping him off an underground railway into a bottomless cavern in order to continue his quest]]. However, [[spoiler:Jake]] is only in the same universe as Roland because he re-incarnated there after being killed in New York City. Roland unexpectedly ends up in [[spoiler:Jake]]'s New York, and, because Roland still loves him and regrets his previous decision, takes the opportunity to prevent the original death. This not only saves [[spoiler:Jake]], but creates a horrible paradox solved only when Roland helps him cross again to his world, where he embraces him as a son and trains him to take part in his quest.\\\ To borrow from Creator/GeorgeRRMartin, Stephen King (in-universe and in RealLife) is a Gardener-type of author; that is, he doesn't ''plan'' his novels so much as lets the writing itself dictate the story. What Roland did is what King felt was true and in-character for him, so really [[spoiler: he can't decide if Jake's death is his own fault, or Roland's, but either way he was too disturbed to write the story for a long while afterwards]].
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* MustMakeAmends: Roland, the "good guy," ends up [[spoiler:letting letting Jake, a boy he has grown to love, fall to his death by dropping him off an underground railway into a bottomless cavern in order to continue his quest]]. quest. However, [[spoiler:Jake]] Jake is only in the same universe as Roland because he re-incarnated there after being killed in New York City. Roland unexpectedly ends up in [[spoiler:Jake]]'s Jake's New York, and, because Roland still loves him and regrets his previous decision, takes the opportunity to prevent the original death. This not only saves [[spoiler:Jake]], Jake, but creates a horrible paradox solved only when Roland helps him cross again to his world, where he embraces him as a son and trains him to take part in his quest.\\\ To quest. **To borrow from Creator/GeorgeRRMartin, Stephen King (in-universe and in RealLife) is a Gardener-type of author; that is, he doesn't ''plan'' his novels so much as lets the writing itself dictate the story. What Roland did is what King felt was true and in-character for him, so really [[spoiler: he can't decide if Jake's death is his own fault, or Roland's, but either way he was too disturbed to write the story for a long while afterwards]].afterwards.

* OneSteveLimit: {{Subverted}}, as two pivotal characters going by variations of Sue -- Susan Delgado, Roland's first love, and Susannah [[spoiler:Dean]], an eventual member of Roland's ka-tet.
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* OneSteveLimit: {{Subverted}}, as two pivotal characters going by variations of Sue -- Susan Delgado, Roland's first love, and Susannah [[spoiler:Dean]], Dean, an eventual member of Roland's ka-tet.

* ReplacementGoldfish: [[spoiler:After Eddie and Jake are killed in the final book, Susannah goes off to live in an alternate universe where they're still alive. In the new universe, they're brothers named Eddie Toren and Jake Toren. The commentary from King suggests that they will eventually get a replacement Oy to be the family dog]].
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* ReplacementGoldfish: Invoked somewhat with Jake, who dies in the first book, but comes back when Roland later prevents his death and causes a paradox; granted, he carries the same thoughts and is effectively the same person, but the fact remains he's not the same entity that Roland left to die. ** Also invoked in the final book. [[spoiler:After Eddie and Jake are killed in the final book, for real. Susannah goes off to live in an alternate universe where they're still alive. In the new universe, they're brothers named Eddie Toren and Jake Toren.Toren, who know and love Susannah by proxy as they carrying their alternative selves' thoughts through dreams. The commentary from King suggests that they will eventually get a replacement Oy to be the family dog]].

%%* ShootTheDog: [[spoiler:Roland leaves Jake for dead.]]
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%%* * ShootTheDog: [[spoiler:Roland As per Walter's taunts and Jake's premonition, Roland charges across the collapsing bridge and leaves Jake for dead.]]clinging to the side. Roland narrowly makes it, living to catch Walter and further pursue the tower, but at the cost of the boy he adopted and loved.
2nd Jun '15 2:23:07 PM TinyTedDanson
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Removed Five Bad Band, characters assigned didn't fit archetypes very well (two were assigned to two roles) and only totalled four.
%%* FiveBadBand %%** The BigBad -- The Crimson King %%** TheDragon/The EvilGenius -- Randall Flagg %%** TheBrute[=/=]EnfantTerrible -- Mordred Deschain %%** TheDarkChick -- Mia
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%%* FiveBadBand %%** * FiveManBand: The BigBad -- The Crimson King %%** TheDragon/The EvilGenius -- Randall Flagg %%** TheBrute[=/=]EnfantTerrible -- Mordred Ka-Tet of Nineteen. At it's largest (''Wolves of the Calla'') it contains: ** TheLeader: Roland Deschain %%** TheDarkChick -- Mia** TheLancer: Eddie Dean ** TheChick: Susannah Dean ** TheSmartGuy: Jake Chambers ** TeamPet: Oy ** SixthRanger: [[spoiler:Father Callahan]]
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