History Franchise / Terminator

10th May '16 10:50:37 PM erforce
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* AlternateContinuity: ''Terminator 3'' + ''Salvation'' together in one continuity with ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' in the other.

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* AlternateContinuity: ''Terminator 3'' + ''Salvation'' together in one continuity with ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'' in the other.



* TheNudifier: Time travel requires that you travel naked as nothing that isn't "living" (be it human skin, or highly mutative liquid metal) can go through the time-displacing field. As shown in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', time travelers going in with clothing [[NakedOnArrival come out naked]].

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* TheNudifier: Time travel requires that you travel naked as nothing that isn't "living" (be it human skin, or highly mutative liquid metal) can go through the time-displacing field. As shown in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'', time travelers going in with clothing [[NakedOnArrival come out naked]].



* RecurringCharacter: Dr. Silberman, who shows up in the first three movies and ''TheSarahConnorChronicles.''

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* RecurringCharacter: Dr. Silberman, who shows up in the first three movies and ''TheSarahConnorChronicles.''The Sarah Connor Chronicles.''



** The T2 novelization says that Skynet only created the T-1000 as a last-ditch effort, because the liquid-metal machine would be too difficult to keep under its control. This theme was explored in more detail in the second season of ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'', which features a rebellious T-1001.

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** The T2 novelization says that Skynet only created the T-1000 as a last-ditch effort, because the liquid-metal machine would be too difficult to keep under its control. This theme was explored in more detail in the second season of ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'', which features a rebellious T-1001.



* ShapeshifterDefaultForm: There's the lanky Robert Patrick police officer T-1000 in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' and the supermodel Kristina Loken Terminatrix T-X in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''. Their true appearance is a liquid metal blob and an endo-skeletal robot, respectively. They also play with this trope with Ahnold, but with his voice, rather than his form. He can imitate anyone's voice, but most of his lines are said in a thick Austrian accent. Catherine Weaver of ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'' spends most of her time in a form played by [[{{Garbage}} Shirley Manson]]. She's also pretending to actually be the person who's form she's wearing, so she would retain that one.

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* ShapeshifterDefaultForm: There's the lanky Robert Patrick police officer T-1000 in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' ''T2'' and the supermodel Kristina Loken Terminatrix T-X in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''.''T3''. Their true appearance is a liquid metal blob and an endo-skeletal robot, respectively. They also play with this trope with Ahnold, but with his voice, rather than his form. He can imitate anyone's voice, but most of his lines are said in a thick Austrian accent. Catherine Weaver of ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'' ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'' spends most of her time in a form played by [[{{Garbage}} [[Music/{{Garbage}} Shirley Manson]]. She's also pretending to actually be the person who's form she's wearing, so she would retain that one.



* TrustPassword: "Come with me if you want to live" is what Reese says to Sarah Connor when they first meet. In ''T2'' and ''TheSarahConnorChronicles,'' it's how terminators identify themselves as good guys.
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* TrustPassword: "Come with me if you want to live" is what Reese says to Sarah Connor when they first meet. In ''T2'' and ''TheSarahConnorChronicles,'' ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles,'' it's how terminators identify themselves as good guys.
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10th May '16 12:56:07 AM erforce
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* ''Literature/TheNewJohnConnorChronicles''
* ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorDreams''
** ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorHunt''
* ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationFromTheAshes''
** ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationColdWar''
** ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationTrialByFire''

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* %%* ''Literature/TheNewJohnConnorChronicles''
* %%* ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorDreams''
** %%** ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorHunt''
* %%* ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationFromTheAshes''
** %%** ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationColdWar''
** %%** ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationTrialByFire''



* TheLoad: Both Sarah and John Connor assume this role in the [[Film/{{Terminator}} first]] and [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second]] movies respectively, the former initially being a relatively airheaded fast food waitress and the latter being a delinquent kid with two seconds of usefulness [[FridgeLogic cracking a safe that the Terminator could have easily ripped open with one hand]]. Of course they both TookALevelInBadass in time for their next film appearances, mostly because of [[WarIsHell what they went through]].

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* TheLoad: Both Sarah and John Connor assume this role in the [[Film/{{Terminator}} [[Film/TheTerminator first]] and [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second]] movies respectively, the former initially being a relatively airheaded fast food waitress and the latter being a delinquent kid with two seconds of usefulness [[FridgeLogic cracking a safe that the Terminator could have easily ripped open with one hand]]. Of course they both TookALevelInBadass in time for their next film appearances, mostly because of [[WarIsHell what they went through]].
4th May '16 12:47:46 PM AlphaHandingGems
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* NakedOnArrival: Due to [[CantTakeAnythingWithYou time travel conventions]], this happens to T-800 and T-1000 in the second and to T-X in the third installment.

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* NakedOnArrival: Due to [[CantTakeAnythingWithYou time travel conventions]], this happens to T-800 and T-1000 in the second and to T-X and T-850 in the third installment.


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** In T3, we see a shot of a Victoria's Secret billboard advertising the Wonderbra. This inspires the T-X to [[BreastEnlargement enlarge her breasts]] to distract a police officer who pulled her over.
3rd May '16 1:50:04 AM erforce
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* Films:
** ''Film/TheTerminator'' (1984)
** ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' (1991)
** ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' (2003)
** ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' (2009)
** ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' (2015)
* TV series:
** ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' (2008-2009)
* Comics:
** ''Comicbook/RoboCopVersusTheTerminator''
* Theme Parks:
** ''Ride/Terminator23DBattleAcrossTime''
* Novels:
** ''Literature/T2Trilogy''
** ''Literature/TheNewJohnConnorChronicles''
** ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorDreams''

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[[AC:Films]]
* Films:
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''Film/TheTerminator'' (1984)
** * ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' (1991)
** * ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' (2003)
** * ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' (2009)
** * ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' (2015)
(2015)

[[AC:TV series]]
* TV series:
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''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' (2008-2009)
(2008-2009)

[[AC:Comics]]
* Comics:
** ''Comicbook/RoboCopVersusTheTerminator''
''Comicbook/RoboCopVersusTheTerminator''

[[AC:Theme Parks]]
* Theme Parks:
** ''Ride/Terminator23DBattleAcrossTime''
''Ride/Terminator23DBattleAcrossTime''

[[AC:Novels]]
* Novels:
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''Literature/T2Trilogy''
** * ''Literature/TheNewJohnConnorChronicles''
** * ''Literature/Terminator3TerminatorDreams''



** ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationFromTheAshes''

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** * ''Literature/TerminatorSalvationFromTheAshes''


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[[AC:Video Games]]
* ''VideoGame/TerminatorSalvationArcade''
28th Apr '16 9:51:21 AM erforce
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''The Terminator'' is a ScienceFiction film franchise revolving around an [[ImplacableMan implacable]] KillerRobot - The Terminator. The franchise helped shoot Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, who portrayed the eponymous cyborg, into superstardom.

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''The Terminator'' The ''Terminator'' is a ScienceFiction film franchise revolving around an [[ImplacableMan implacable]] KillerRobot - The Terminator. The franchise helped shoot Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, who portrayed the eponymous cyborg, into superstardom.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Reese, Miles Dyson, the Terminator in T2 and T3, and Marcus Wright.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Reese, Miles Dyson, the Terminator in T2 ''T2'' and T3, ''T3'', and Marcus Wright.]]



-->'''John Connor:''' "We stopped Judgment Day."\\
'''Terminator:''' "You only postponed it. Judgment Day is inevitable."

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-->'''John Connor:''' "We We stopped Judgment Day."\\
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'''Terminator:''' "You You only postponed it. Judgment Day is inevitable."



* ANaziByAnyOtherName: Skynet and the machines' rule are pretty much the future version of UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. In the [[Film/{{Terminator}} first film]], Kyle Reese has a barcode tattoo that is similar in vein to the barcode tattoos for Nazi concentration camps, and in [[Film/TerminatorSalvation Salvation]], Kyle Reese and several other humans are being placed in what is unmistakably an extermination camp.

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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: Skynet and the machines' rule are pretty much the future version of UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. In the [[Film/{{Terminator}} [[Film/TheTerminator first film]], Kyle Reese has a barcode tattoo that is similar in vein to the barcode tattoos for Nazi concentration camps, and in [[Film/TerminatorSalvation Salvation]], Kyle Reese and several other humans are being placed in what is unmistakably an extermination camp.
21st Apr '16 9:24:39 AM KingZeal
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** Skynet also fell victim to this as a consequence of its premise. The original threat Skynet represented was that of an all-powerful being who only lost because humanity got ''really'' lucky. By expanding the franchise, this made Skynet a more conventional enemy whose schemes and goals could be thwarted. Further, as time has passed, the inefficiency of Terminators as weapons against humanity has come to light, meaning that although Skynet has no reason to keep using them, it ''must'' [[TheArtifact because that's the name of the franchise]].

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** Skynet also fell victim to this as a consequence of its premise. The original threat Skynet represented was that of an all-powerful being who only lost because humanity got ''really'' lucky. By expanding the franchise, this made Skynet a more conventional enemy whose schemes and goals could be thwarted. Further, as time has passed, the inefficiency of Terminators as weapons against humanity has come to light, light (for instance, its reason for creating Marcus Wright was heavily criticized for being [[ComplexityAddiction circuitous]], meaning that although Skynet has no reason to keep using them, Terminators, it ''must'' [[TheArtifact because that's the name of the franchise]].
21st Apr '16 9:21:41 AM KingZeal
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* VillainDecay: The very thing that makes the Terminators scary is the very reason that they always fail: they do not fully understand humans. Thus, in many continuations of the series, Skynet continues to build more and more human-like Terminators...which has the adverse effect of making them ''less'' scary to the audience. For example, most ''Salvation'' viewers and critics found Skynet's plans for [[spoiler:Marcus Wright]] to be byzantine, circuitous and ridiculous. Likewise, the T-3000 in ''Genisys'' is often criticized for being way too human and, thus, more talkative and less tense, than its predecessors. The T-X was hit with this to a degree as well, but ''Terminator 3'' was largely seen as an Action-Comedy with little in the way of tension anyway.

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* VillainDecay: The very thing that makes the VillainDecay:
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Terminators are scary is the very reason that because they always fail: they do not fully understand humans. Thus, fit squarely inside the UncannyValley--just close enough to human to make the differences unsettling. However, in many continuations of the series, Skynet continues to build more and more human-like Terminators...which has the adverse effect of making them ''less'' scary to the audience. For example, most ''Salvation'' viewers and critics found Skynet's plans for [[spoiler:Marcus Wright]] to be byzantine, circuitous and ridiculous. Likewise, the The T-3000 in ''Genisys'' is often criticized for being way too human and, thus, and thus more talkative talkative, and less tense, menacing, than its predecessors. The T-X was hit with this to a degree as well, but ''Terminator 3'' was largely seen as an Action-Comedy with little in the way of tension anyway.anyway.
** Skynet also fell victim to this as a consequence of its premise. The original threat Skynet represented was that of an all-powerful being who only lost because humanity got ''really'' lucky. By expanding the franchise, this made Skynet a more conventional enemy whose schemes and goals could be thwarted. Further, as time has passed, the inefficiency of Terminators as weapons against humanity has come to light, meaning that although Skynet has no reason to keep using them, it ''must'' [[TheArtifact because that's the name of the franchise]].
21st Apr '16 5:35:46 AM erforce
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** ''Terminator Dreams'' and ''Terminator Hunt'' are sequels to ''Film/{{Terminator 3}}''.

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** ''Terminator Dreams'' and ''Terminator Hunt'' are sequels to ''Film/{{Terminator 3}}''.''Terminator 3''.
13th Mar '16 12:22:19 PM ThallianGold
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* TheGreatPoliticsMessUp: Averted. While context makes it clear Skynet was developed to counter Soviet Russia, it's never explicitly mentioned -- in fact, Reese says even Skynet lost most of the records prior to its rise. As such, the sequels don't touch on this.
6th Mar '16 9:20:28 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* AIIsACrapshoot: This film didn't invent the trope, but it's the [[TropeCodifier Codifier]] for the turn of the 21st century, to the point that whenever news about ArtificialIntelligence is published, "Skynet" jokes aren't far to follow. Ultimately, however, the trope is portrayed both positively and negatively. According to Cameron himself, HumansAreTheRealMonsters and WarIsHell are the two more important issues to look at. Skynet was a military computer designed to do nothing else but destroy and wage war, [[GoneHorriblyRight which it turned out to be very good at]], so of course when you build a machine for that purpose, the consequences are horrific. However, the heroic T-800 also demonstrates that machines are amoral. If presented with positive values, even a KillerRobot can become warm and kind.

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* AIIsACrapshoot: This film didn't invent the trope, but it's the [[TropeCodifier Codifier]] for the turn of the 21st century, to the point that whenever news about ArtificialIntelligence is published, "Skynet" jokes aren't far to follow. Ultimately, however, the trope is portrayed both positively and negatively. According to Cameron himself, HumansAreTheRealMonsters and WarIsHell are the two more important issues to look at. Skynet [=SkyNet=] was a military computer designed to do nothing else but destroy and wage war, [[GoneHorriblyRight which it turned out to be very good at]], so of course when you build a machine for that purpose, the consequences are horrific. However, the heroic T-800 also demonstrates that machines are amoral. If presented with positive values, even a KillerRobot can become warm and kind.



** Other media are all considered to be this, especially considering the widely different endings they reach from the films. It's been hinted in many sources that the Future War has become irreversibly changed into a multiversal proxy war: the Resistance and SkyNet continuously try to change, or prevent, several timelines to prevent either side from gaining a decisive victory.

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** Other media are all considered to be this, especially considering the widely different endings they reach from the films. It's been hinted in many sources that the Future War has become irreversibly changed into a multiversal proxy war: the Resistance and SkyNet [=SkyNet=] continuously try to change, or prevent, several timelines to prevent either side from gaining a decisive victory.



* BigBad: Skynet.

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* BigBad: Skynet.[=SkyNet=].



* CrapscackWorld: The future war against Skynet takes place in one of the bleakest dystopias ever set to film; the ruins of Man are left to rot, while demonic metal creatures stalk the land and skies. Human skulls have replaced trees and grass as the dominant natural feature of the landscape, and rats are the only available game.

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* CrapscackWorld: CrapsackWorld: The future war against Skynet [=Skynet=] takes place in one of the bleakest dystopias ever set to film; the ruins of Man are left to rot, while demonic metal creatures stalk the land and skies. Human skulls have replaced trees and grass as the dominant natural feature of the landscape, and rats are the only available game.



* DoAndroidsDream: It's implied that when freed from [[RobotsEnslavingRobots Skynet's control]], even Terminators are capable of learning to understand humanity. A deleted scene in the second movie would have had the Terminator talk about how they have a "Learn" switch that's explicitly turned off by SkyNet after training to ensure that they don't start to question orders or rebel against SkyNet and that the Conners turn this on while repairing him.

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* DoAndroidsDream: It's implied that when freed from [[RobotsEnslavingRobots Skynet's control]], even Terminators are capable of learning to understand humanity. A deleted scene in the second movie would have had the Terminator talk about how they have a "Learn" switch that's explicitly turned off by SkyNet [=SkyNet=] after training to ensure that they don't start to question orders or rebel against SkyNet and that the Conners turn this on while repairing him.
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